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Post by melanell on Oct 5, 2017 18:34:05 GMT
It bugs me when people say "you don't own the street, get over it." As if they're unreasonable. Yet we have LAWS saying you cannot park more than 72 hours, and many HOAs (mine included) restrict service/work trucks. I can't help but automatically imagine the naysayer is a similar offender who disregards laws and courtesy. I don't think anyone should "get over it", but I do view it as something unlikely to bother me unless they were actually blocking access to my driveway. And I am definitely not a similar offender as we have a huge driveway and only one car. My car can perform waltzes in the driveway with room to spare. No way I'd ever leave it on our busy street instead. Save
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Oct 5, 2017 18:51:30 GMT
It bugs me when people say "you don't own the street, get over it." As if they're unreasonable. Yet we have LAWS saying you cannot park more than 72 hours, and many HOAs (mine included) restrict service/work trucks. I can't help but automatically imagine the naysayer is a similar offender who disregards laws and courtesy. Not everyone has local laws that restrict parking. And even if they do, you still don't "own" the space in front of your house. If the person parking there is not violating any laws, then yes, you need to get over it.
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Post by Clair on Oct 5, 2017 19:30:34 GMT
Thanks for all your opinions.
The truck did move from our house last night. It’s now about 10 houses away from mine - in the other direction.
My husband and I were talking with some neighbors last night - they brought up the parking issue. Next time the one of the vehicles is in front of their house - they are going to move a car in front of their house. I’m just annoyed about the truck parking but my neighbor is mad. They may even go over and say something.
If we have a problem again - we will call code enforcement.
It’s truly one of those things where you say wtf because it is such a quiet street and there is plenty of parking in their driveway and in front of their house. Also, for the 10 or so years they’ve lived here - they’ve never parked in front of anyone’s house or had people park in front of their house except for the rare occasion. It’s just something that the neighbors here don’t do.
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Post by scrappert on Oct 5, 2017 19:47:41 GMT
I will totally validate your feelings of having them park in front of your house. We live in a neighborhood where on my side of the street they are all single family houses. Across the street, it starts 2 house across from me, 2 family houses. Not a big deal, but this one family owns the frist 2 family house and the parents live downstairs and one of the kids lives up stairs. Really, I don't know how many people live there, but they have a total of 9 cars! There are at least 5 - 7 in the street at all times and then there are 4 or more in the driveway. Seriously! I am thankful that they never have to park in front of my house - they do in front of my neighbors and down the other way. I would really hate to always look out the front window and see their car/s.
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Post by pondrunner on Oct 5, 2017 20:06:54 GMT
It bugs me when people say "you don't own the street, get over it." As if they're unreasonable. Yet we have LAWS saying you cannot park more than 72 hours, and many HOAs (mine included) restrict service/work trucks. I can't help but automatically imagine the naysayer is a similar offender who disregards laws and courtesy. Not everyone has local laws that restrict parking. And even if they do, you still don't "own" the space in front of your house. If the person parking there is not violating any laws, then yes, you need to get over it. Well that's true that you don't own the street. That is why I don't find it annoying when people park on the street even if it is in front of my house. However as I see it, using the residential street as a place to park a bunch of business vehicles that aren't working on houses in the neighborhood is rude because it isn't really what the street parking is meant for in my opinion. I feel like the street is meant for residents' personal cars, visitors, workmen, even just people who come into the neighborhood for recreation. Not so much for storage of business vehicles.
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Post by Peamac on Oct 5, 2017 20:21:35 GMT
Thanks for all your opinions. The truck did move from our house last night. It’s now about 10 houses away from mine - in the other direction. My husband and I were talking with some neighbors last night - they brought up the parking issue. Next time the one of the vehicles is in front of their house - they are going to move a car in front of their house. I’m just annoyed about the truck parking but my neighbor is mad. They may even go over and say something. If we have a problem again - we will call code enforcement. It’s truly one of those things where you say wtf because it is such a quiet street and there is plenty of parking in their driveway and in front of their house. Also, for the 10 or so years they’ve lived here - they’ve never parked in front of anyone’s house or had people park in front of their house except for the rare occasion. It’s just something that the neighbors here don’t do. Maybe you and your neighbor should park a car right in front and right behind the work truck, blocking them in.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Oct 5, 2017 20:25:09 GMT
I won't live in an HOA so it's times like this i'm thankful i live in a dense neighborhood on a somewhat busy street with no allowed parking. all the streets around me are packed with cars. This is why we have a 48 hour limit. Plus in snow season we have plowing issues due to cars not following the parking rules for plowing days. But my street is always plowed because no cars!
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Post by alexa11 on Oct 5, 2017 20:26:08 GMT
Oh- I wouldn't hesitant to be "that" neighbor who calls the police. And the others need to get on board, too. Infuriates me that some people think they are entitled to do as they please.
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Post by katlaw on Oct 5, 2017 20:31:48 GMT
We had a neighbour doing this with business vehicles. So I called the city and asked if they had a business license to operate a home business that included parking work trucks in our neighbourhood. The trucks were taking up spaces so that if I had company they often had to park a1/2 block away. I was also concerned because we lived on a city street with parking on both sides and a larger vehicle like a fire truck or ambulance had difficulty maneuvering with so many large trucks parked on the street. Turns out they did not have a business license at all. What happens in our city when someone wants to get a business license to run a business out of their home is the city sends out a letter to neighbouring homes informing them and allowing them the chance to contact the city with concerns. A lot of neighbours complained they did not want the trucks so he was granted a license but no street parking.
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Post by ntsf on Oct 5, 2017 20:47:28 GMT
most areas of our city have two hour parking.. so there is a residental permit system.. you pay $100 and can park in your area for more than 2 hours (this is not counting all the parking meters).. the system was put in when some neighbors complained about Danielle Steele.. and the 27 cars she parked in her neighborhood streets .. in a neighborhood with limited parking.. now I think you can get four permits per household.. you, spouse, the nanny and a workman....
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Post by sunraynnc on Oct 5, 2017 23:14:15 GMT
You are not being petty. They are doing this strange parking deal BECAUSE they are doing something wrong. I feel like it's something about number of business vehicles allowed at a residence. He needs to pay for commercial parking versus annoying the neighborhood.
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Post by pastlifepea on Oct 6, 2017 0:29:43 GMT
Would it be possible for you or another neighbor to talk to them? What??? Crazy talk! Lol...I would probably just go knock on their door and ask what's up with that. In the most diplomatic way possible of course, but I'd rather try to resolve things at that level if I could.
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Post by Lexica on Oct 6, 2017 5:56:27 GMT
I'm curious as to why, after 10 years, they have suddenly started doing this. I am wondering why these work vehicles are not being used in their work capacity during the day. Do you think they lost the business, or that there was some type of circumstance, perhaps a medical situation, that caused them to close down their business for a while? Work trucks that are suddenly not being used makes me think there is something pretty bad going on, especially after 10 years on not parking on the street like this.
There are frequently major parking wars going on in my neighborhood. My next door neighbor gets absolutely crazy if anyone parks in front of his house. He doesn't like anyone parking in front of my house either. I can understand it now that his daughter and her husband have moved in with them, bringing an additional 2 cars and filling their garage with furniture and boxes, but prior to that, he was just very territorial about his front space and they only had the one car.
I have told him many times that he is more than welcome to park on the other side of my car in my driveway if necessary. I could probably fit 4 cars the size of mine in the driveway itself if I pull all the way forward toward my garage door, and another 3 or 4 along the front of my house. Since I only have one car, I told him to go ahead and use my driveway if he needs to. Especially when they entertain, which is not very often. As long as I know about it ahead of time, and they don't block my car in, I don't mind sharing my driveway once in a while. It has kept this neighbor from blowing a gasket and kept me from having to listen to his yelling about it.
Back to your neighbor, you might want to talk to people living closer to this neighbor to see if they have noticed them home all the time now instead of leaving for work. I just find it odd that work vehicles are not being used during the work week.
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Post by inkedup on Oct 6, 2017 6:02:05 GMT
Our neighbors have several vehicles - 5 for 4 people. There is *always* a car parked in front of our house. Always. Sometimes, it annoys me (usually when we have a party), but the street is public and there's nothing we can do. Besides, it's not like we park there. We park in our garage and driveway. We like our neighbors and are happy to have such a nice family next door. It's not worth damaging an otherwise good relationship over public parking.
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Post by uksue on Oct 6, 2017 9:41:08 GMT
My next door neighbour parks a big van just to the left of my driveway, which makes exit from our driveway less safe . I've asked him nicely not to, explaining my daughter is an inexperienced driver, but he carried on ( in the true spirit of neighbourlyness! Same beighbour had 2 large pieces of furniture delivered to my house, without asking me and just laughed when I went over to talk to him about it!) There are. Several neighbours with market stalls and big scruffy vans here who park up and down the road ( away from their own property ) and we were told by the council and police we couldn't do anything about it except - because they were commercial vehicles notices were served to stop. They have been told they can't park commercial vehicles overnight in this residential area . They still park during the day and I've seen them parking on roads around the area overnight ( moving locations I imagine to stop promoting another report to the council.) I feel the problem has just been moved from us unto other people 😟
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Post by Delta Dawn on Oct 6, 2017 10:37:36 GMT
This will not fly in my neighbourhood ever. We are not allowed commercial vehicles on the street and our neighbors can and will call the police. They will get their vehicle towed and impounded and then fined for this. My bff’s family has a horrible next door neighbor who does this all the time and so do his illegal tenants. She keeps hoping he will move but he never does. One day he parked a motor home in front of their house and it had to be towed.
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Post by peasapie on Oct 6, 2017 10:58:40 GMT
This is one of the reasons I love having an HOA. This would tick me off. ETA: We have a no cars parked on the street overnight policy. Some people would hate that ~ we love it. Curious: an HOA can set rules for public streets?
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Post by peppermintpatty on Oct 6, 2017 11:32:34 GMT
We don't have an HOA but our county says you cannot park business vehicles in front of your house in large numbers (where it looks like you are running the business from the house). We have an issue on the other side of the development where a renter has about 10 trucks parked on both sides of the street. One of my friends lives on that side and her dh is a county cop. He tickets them for obstructing the road when they are on both sides. It is obvious they are running the business from the house and the other neighbors are trying to get them to leave.
My cul-de-sac is so small (the circle is) and if someone parks in front of my house on the street, I cannot get out of my driveway because I don't have enough of a turning radius. We put those reflector things in the ground across my front yard (it is really short, only 3) because our new neighbors were parking 1 of their 5 cars (none in the garage, btw) on the grass in front of their house. That's okay but to get to their grass, they were driving over mine and killing it.
We also had to put those things up because in the 19 years we have lived here, we have had 5 people take out our mailbox. Not maliciously, just not realizing they were about to hit it because it is so tight.
My other neighbor also put those things up and now their dd and her fiance both park on the street and makes it even worse. Thankfully she will be moving out in June when she gets married and then there will be 2 less cars.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Oct 6, 2017 13:23:33 GMT
This is one of the reasons I love having an HOA. This would tick me off. ETA: We have a no cars parked on the street overnight policy. Some people would hate that ~ we love it. Curious: an HOA can set rules for public streets? Sometimes. Some gated communities have an HOA that is responsible for maintaining the streets and they are not "public" streets. Those HOAs can usually set the rules. If the community streets are maintained by the local government, then generally the HOA authority does not extend to the streets. My last HOA neighborhood wanted to restrict street parking. We had rules about parking boats, commercial vehicles, and RVs in driveways, but the county did not have similar rules against parking them in the streets. So if they told someone to move an RV, they could just move it to the street which defeated the purpose and actually made it worse. The HOA tried to get the county to give HOAs the authority to restrict parking on public streets, but that didn't pass. They were able to get the county to pass rules limiting overnight parking if the boats and RVs, though. Some community property owners wanted the ability to restrict parking so they could ban all overnight property arming. I was really glad when the county said "no."
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Post by pondrunner on Oct 6, 2017 14:12:38 GMT
This is one of the reasons I love having an HOA. This would tick me off. ETA: We have a no cars parked on the street overnight policy. Some people would hate that ~ we love it. Curious: an HOA can set rules for public streets? Yes, the details of this depending on the state. In our state the HOA can ticket and tow from county owned roads only if proper signage is in place.
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Post by pattyraindrops on Oct 6, 2017 14:24:52 GMT
I'm curious as to why, after 10 years, they have suddenly started doing this. I am wondering why these work vehicles are not being used in their work capacity during the day. Do you think they lost the business, or that there was some type of circumstance, perhaps a medical situation, that caused them to close down their business for a while? Work trucks that are suddenly not being used makes me think there is something pretty bad going on, especially after 10 years on not parking on the street like this. There are frequently major parking wars going on in my neighborhood. My next door neighbor gets absolutely crazy if anyone parks in front of his house. He doesn't like anyone parking in front of my house either. I can understand it now that his daughter and her husband have moved in with them, bringing an additional 2 cars and filling their garage with furniture and boxes, but prior to that, he was just very territorial about his front space and they only had the one car. I have told him many times that he is more than welcome to park on the other side of my car in my driveway if necessary. I could probably fit 4 cars the size of mine in the driveway itself if I pull all the way forward toward my garage door, and another 3 or 4 along the front of my house. Since I only have one car, I told him to go ahead and use my driveway if he needs to. Especially when they entertain, which is not very often. As long as I know about it ahead of time, and they don't block my car in, I don't mind sharing my driveway once in a while. It has kept this neighbor from blowing a gasket and kept me from having to listen to his yelling about it. Back to your neighbor, you might want to talk to people living closer to this neighbor to see if they have noticed them home all the time now instead of leaving for work. I just find it odd that work vehicles are not being used during the work week. Yes. I would be curious too. I'd be curious enough to ask. I don't get why all the neighbors are communicating their displeasure with each other, but no one seems to be communicating with him to find out why or to politely ask him to stop.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Oct 6, 2017 14:44:30 GMT
This is one of the reasons I love having an HOA. This would tick me off. ETA: We have a no cars parked on the street overnight policy. Some people would hate that ~ we love it. Curious: an HOA can set rules for public streets? They aren't public, it is a gated community.
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Post by not2peased on Oct 6, 2017 17:21:23 GMT
It bugs me when people say "you don't own the street, get over it." As if they're unreasonable. Yet we have LAWS saying you cannot park more than 72 hours, and many HOAs (mine included) restrict service/work trucks. I can't help but automatically imagine the naysayer is a similar offender who disregards laws and courtesy. I live in a condo, with a strict HOA and I follow the rules. we did live in a neighborhood where we routinely parked on the street, despite having a driveway-it was easier to carry things into the house and that's why we typically did it. I can't recall a single time that we ever parked in front of someone else's house. If the spot wasn't available, we parked in our driveway-no big deal. I think it's petty to worry about who parks in front of your house. You don't own it, and while you are certainly within your rights to call the cops after 72 hours, why bother? who are they really hurting? there isn't a parking shortage in the neighborhood, they aren't blocking driveways, so why not spend your energy on fixing real problems that actually cause harm rather than ones that hurt your sensibilities? people boo hoo about shitty neighbors but then act like a shitty neighbor themselves by reporting another neighbor for doing something that the OP has admitted isn't causing a real problem. IME, the people who bitch the most about this thing don't want people to think think that the vehicle is theirs (cause it's not as nice as their car) or they are offended by a work vehicle-don't want anyone to see they live in a neighborhood with blue collar workers, or <gasp> that they might have a blue collar job themselves. Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should do something. <edited to add> these same people who keep notes on what their neighbors are doing and gossip and inform on each other always have crappy relations with their neighbors and it's always the other person's fault-they believe they play no part in the relationships they have with others. pretty disconnected behavior, but there are lots of angry people around these days-always believing the worst, always keeping score, always nursing grudges and petty discontent
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Post by katlady on Oct 6, 2017 17:54:00 GMT
This is one of the reasons I love having an HOA. This would tick me off. ETA: We have a no cars parked on the street overnight policy. Some people would hate that ~ we love it. Curious: an HOA can set rules for public streets? We live on a private street, and the HOA does not allow for overnight street parking. We also do not allow work vehicles to be parked in the driveways, you have to cover up any signage. But there is a community down the way from me that is not on private streets. They also do not allow overnight street parking. They also do not allow you to park your cars in the driveway, all cars have to go in your garage. I think that is going too far! My neighbor's kids park their cars in front of my house. There is never any cars in front of their house, so I don't know why they park in front of my house. They use the entrance on the other side of the driveway, so it is not like they are parking any closer to the door. I don't bother them about it because I figure it is not worth starting a neighbor spat over.
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Post by peasapie on Oct 6, 2017 22:34:21 GMT
Curious: an HOA can set rules for public streets? They aren't public, it is a gated community. Oh ok. We are in a townhouse development, but the streets are considered public property for some reason. I wish we could make the rules for our streets; I'd love to have one that says you can't leave a car in a space for more than x amount of hours.
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Post by leigh on Oct 6, 2017 22:38:50 GMT
Have you asked them why they are parking their car in front of your house? I always try to go to my neighbor first. Then they HOA. We only have 179 houses in our subdivision though. I don’t want to move, so I try to be as neighborly as possible. Most of my neighbors are really good people too so it’s easy to ask.
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Post by peasapie on Oct 6, 2017 22:55:52 GMT
Curious: an HOA can set rules for public streets? We live on a private street, and the HOA does not allow for overnight street parking. We also do not allow work vehicles to be parked in the driveways, you have to cover up any signage. But there is a community down the way from me that is not on private streets. They also do not allow overnight street parking. They also do not allow you to park your cars in the driveway, all cars have to go in your garage. I think that is going too far! My neighbor's kids park their cars in front of my house. There is never any cars in front of their house, so I don't know why they park in front of my house. They use the entrance on the other side of the driveway, so it is not like they are parking any closer to the door. I don't bother them about it because I figure it is not worth starting a neighbor spat over. That's so interesting! I didn't know the HOA could make private rules for public streets. I'm going to have to explore this more at our next board meeting. There are some people who park in spots across from me and leave their cars there for weeks at a time.
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Post by Clair on Oct 6, 2017 23:02:01 GMT
It bugs me when people say "you don't own the street, get over it." As if they're unreasonable. Yet we have LAWS saying you cannot park more than 72 hours, and many HOAs (mine included) restrict service/work trucks. I can't help but automatically imagine the naysayer is a similar offender who disregards laws and courtesy. I live in a condo, with a strict HOA and I follow the rules. we did live in a neighborhood where we routinely parked on the street, despite having a driveway-it was easier to carry things into the house and that's why we typically did it. I can't recall a single time that we ever parked in front of someone else's house. If the spot wasn't available, we parked in our driveway-no big deal. I think it's petty to worry about who parks in front of your house. You don't own it, and while you are certainly within your rights to call the cops after 72 hours, why bother? who are they really hurting? there isn't a parking shortage in the neighborhood, they aren't blocking driveways, so why not spend your energy on fixing real problems that actually cause harm rather than ones that hurt your sensibilities? people boo hoo about shitty neighbors but then act like a shitty neighbor themselves by reporting another neighbor for doing something that the OP has admitted isn't causing a real problem. IME, the people who bitch the most about this thing don't want people to think think that the vehicle is theirs (cause it's not as nice as their car) or they are offended by a work vehicle-don't want anyone to see they live in a neighborhood with blue collar workers, or <gasp> that they might have a blue collar job themselves. Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should do something. <edited to add> these same people who keep notes on what their neighbors are doing and gossip and inform on each other always have crappy relations with their neighbors and it's always the other person's fault-they believe they play no part in the relationships they have with others. pretty disconnected behavior, but there are lots of angry people around these days-always believing the worst, always keeping score, always nursing grudges and petty discontent You’re making quite a few assumptions - and you are wrong. This neighborhood is full of very neighborly people. We don’t live very close to these people -they park and walk down the street. It’s quite odd. Their driveway and in front of their house are empty. They have nicer cars that they will park in their driveway. Neighbors are talking about it because it is odd. No one has talked to them because the trucks get parked in front of your house when no one is home. We would have to walk down the street and knock on their door. They are the owners of the business - they are not employees bring home a work truck. As someone said earlier - they may want to spread the scope of their business. A friend asked if they were working at our house.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Oct 6, 2017 23:15:13 GMT
There a whole lot of things we don't know. How congested is the street with cars parked on it? Do the vehicles parked make it hard to see when you are backing out of your driveway? Do they impede your turn out of your driveway? Do the block your mailbox? Do the cause you to not be able to mow next to the curb? Do they look like shit? Do they make your house look like shit? Do they make your street/neighborhood look like shit?
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Post by Clair on Oct 6, 2017 23:33:08 GMT
There a whole lot of things we don't know. How congested is the street with cars parked on it? Do the vehicles parked make it hard to see when you are backing out of your driveway? Do they impede your turn out of your driveway? Do the block your mailbox? Do the cause you to not be able to mow next to the curb? Do they look like shit? Do they make your house look like shit? Do they make your street/neighborhood look like shit? Very quiet street with lots of parking. Everyone parks in their driveway with an occasional car in the street. Doesn’t cause a driving or sight issue and our mailboxes are on our house. Our gardener has has to work around the truck if it is there and the street doesn’t get cleaned up where the truck is. Its not causing a problem but it is annoying. The trucks are just trucks - not a pretty sight in front of the house. I believe they have a 4 car garage (I think - not a tract neighborhood so everyone is different), long driveway and spots in front of their own house. Eta I certainally don’t have an issue with the trucks being in the neighborhood - it’s that they randomly get parked in front of houses and don’t get moved for a very long time.
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