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Post by seaexplore on Oct 19, 2017 3:55:21 GMT
would you keep your kid home or send them to school if there was a teacher strike?
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Post by scraphollie27 on Oct 19, 2017 4:07:06 GMT
Our teachers were on strike for about three weeks a couple of years ago and children did not go to school. Only administration was onsite and certainly not enough administrators to adequately supervise children. What is the purpose of sending children to school when there is a strike?
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Post by Pahina722 on Oct 19, 2017 4:14:08 GMT
We aren't allowed to strike, so the question is moot, but if we were, I wouldn't send my child to school. I'm not sure they'd even be allowed on campus with no teachers to supervise them.
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Post by freecharlie on Oct 19, 2017 4:17:20 GMT
Whenever there is a strike, there are not any classes.
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Post by seaexplore on Oct 19, 2017 4:24:07 GMT
The reason I’m asking is because my daughters district is set to be on strike starting tomorrow with both teachers and support staff being out. I'm a teacher is a different district so my thoughts are that I will send her to school. The school may or may not be open. If it's open, i feel she needs to be there. I've been chatting with other parents on Facebook and it seems to be the general consensus that kids will not be attending school. Just curious what the prevailing thoughts are from other people.
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Post by mrssmith on Oct 19, 2017 4:32:18 GMT
So if teachers and support staff are on strike, AND school is open, who is watching/teaching the kids?
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Post by compeateropeator on Oct 19, 2017 4:44:35 GMT
We’ve had two school districts strike this fall in my area and the schools were closed. I thought that was the purpose of a strike. Who is there to watch the kids? Very interesting, I learn so much here.
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Post by Skellinton on Oct 19, 2017 4:47:51 GMT
So if teachers and support staff are on strike, AND school is open, who is watching/teaching the kids? In our area there would be school wide subs. How they would have enough to staff all the schools I don't really know, but when our teachers threatened to strike a few years ago that is what we were told would happen.
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Post by M in Carolina on Oct 19, 2017 4:57:06 GMT
But who's there keeping an eye on the subs? Isn't it really easy to become a sub?
You'd think that the school board wouldn't allow unsupervised subs to watch the kids--if for no other reason than their liability insurance underwriter would have a cow.
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Post by betty on Oct 19, 2017 5:05:39 GMT
Unless there is an official announcement that school is closed I would probably send my kid to school.
We are allowed very few missed days, excused and unexcused - it doesn't matter, so I would be concerned about it taking one of those few days and that later in the year he/she might get sick or have a dentist apt. or something.
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Post by refugeepea on Oct 19, 2017 5:43:53 GMT
It would depend if my kids were pissing me off.
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Post by tanya2 on Oct 19, 2017 5:50:40 GMT
college teachers are currently on strike here & it is supremely pissing me off. My son would dearly love to be receiving the education THAT WE PAID FOR!!!
and around here, if teachers are on strike, school is cancelled
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2017 5:57:09 GMT
would you keep your kid home or send them to school if there was a teacher strike? It would depend on what the school's plans were. Will there be enough PREPARED subs to hold classes of educational value, or barely enough subs to control student chaos? My kids went through a teacher's strike. THe school was officially open so they could count it as an educational day; but they didn't have enough subs to really have class, just baby sit, as the subs weren't eager to cross the picket line. I wasn't about to send my kids just to have them sit in an overcrowded room with inadequate supervision, little to do and a potentially volatile political event happening on the school lawn. The school pretty much ignored the student's absences and didn't hold it against the students when the strike was ended.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2017 5:59:10 GMT
But who's there keeping an eye on the subs? Isn't it really easy to become a sub? You'd think that the school board wouldn't allow unsupervised subs to watch the kids--if for no other reason than their liability insurance underwriter would have a cow. Totally depends on the state laws. Some states require a bachelors degree and background check. Other states just want slightly more than a breathing adult.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2017 6:02:19 GMT
Unless there is an official announcement that school is closed I would probably send my kid to school. We are allowed very few missed days, excused and unexcused - it doesn't matter, so I would be concerned about it taking one of those few days and that later in the year he/she might get sick or have a dentist apt. or something. You may also want to consider if there will be an active picket line and what the chances are things could get loud and violent. How are you going to get your kid out of that situation? The teacher who are normally there to make sure your child safely enters/exist the car/bus won't be doing that function and might be preventing you from doing it as well. Picket lines during a strike can be ugly ugly places.
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Post by smokeynspike on Oct 19, 2017 6:54:13 GMT
I voted send them to school, but I guess I would only do that if she was still getting an education and not just sitting around talking with friends/goofing off for 6 hours a day while a sub sat up front and did nothing.
Being a sub is so hard on a regular school day (I've been one!) that I can't imagine the chaos that would ensue when kids felt like they had free rein!
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Post by cycworker on Oct 19, 2017 7:00:40 GMT
I would NOT be sending my child to school, especially if I were a teacher, even in a neighboring district. You, by sending your child into the school, are for all intents & purposes crossing a picket line. People will remember that. What if something changes and you want/need to work in this district?
Your child won't be getting any work done while there's a strike happening. Don't do it.
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Post by monklady123 on Oct 19, 2017 9:58:03 GMT
I always thought schools were closed when there was teachers were on strike. If ours were on strike and the schools were open I would not send my kid. First, as others have said, who is supervising the kids? Obviously no real teaching would go on even with subs because I'd bet that a lot of kids would still be absent. So the teacher wouldn't leave anything new since the absent kids would miss it.
The thing about subs also...I'm a substitute teacher and I would never cross the teachers' picket line anyway. We are only required to work a certain minimum number of days per quarter and I go over that by a lot. So stepping in for teachers who are on strike is not something I would do, because they are on strike for a good reason. Teachers are so underpaid and underappreciated that I do what I can to support them and crossing their picket line wouldn't be on my list.
And, by sending my kids to school I'd be asking them to cross the picket line. Instead of doing that we'd have a lesson at home about the history of unions in our country, labor laws, etc.
I come from a good old union town (Pittsburgh) and it's kind of ingrained that you don't cross picket lines.
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Post by Linda on Oct 19, 2017 11:30:00 GMT
But who's there keeping an eye on the subs? Isn't it really easy to become a sub? You'd think that the school board wouldn't allow unsupervised subs to watch the kids--if for no other reason than their liability insurance underwriter would have a cow. Totally depends on the state laws. Some states require a bachelors degree and background check. Other states just want slightly more than a breathing adult. Florida just requires the background check and a high school diploma.... when teachers and/or bus drivers went on strike when I was a kid (RI), school was cancelled and we had to make up those days at the end of the year
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Post by Fidget on Oct 19, 2017 12:38:31 GMT
Would the schools actually be open if the teachers are on strike? I can't see it, we had a strike in our district when I was in high school and school was cancelled until it ended.
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Post by cmpeter on Oct 19, 2017 15:04:28 GMT
I wouldn't send mine to school. But, then I have the ability to keep them home because I work from home.
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Post by kels99 on Oct 19, 2017 16:32:46 GMT
e But who's there keeping an eye on the subs? Isn't it really easy to become a sub? You'd think that the school board wouldn't allow unsupervised subs to watch the kids--if for no other reason than their liability insurance underwriter would have a cow. Wow! As a sub, I'm pretty offended by this statement. In my district, subs are educators with teaching degrees and we are fully capable of working without someone "keeping an eye" on us. However, school would be closed if the teachers went on strike (and I wouldn't cross their picket line anyway).
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Post by IAmUnoriginal on Oct 19, 2017 16:45:30 GMT
Around here, schools close for teacher strikes and days are added onto the school calendar at the end of the year.
If the District hired subs instead of closing, I'd send my kids to school. If school is open, my students are in their seats, even if they are watching movies for the day.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2017 17:38:09 GMT
I would send them. The labor concerns are between the teachers and the admin. I pay a lot of school taxes and expect that accommodations would be made. And I have no issues crossing a picket line. If those picketing cannot act like adults then any improper behavior lessens their bargaining position, IMHO.
In NYS we have the Taylor law which prohibits strikes by public employees. Of course the idiot Union President for the City of Bflo schools has ignored that in the past and been jailed. TG I am NOT in that shitty district.
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Post by bc2ca on Oct 19, 2017 17:47:40 GMT
I'd be keeping my kids home for so many reasons mentioned already: not wanting to cross a picket line, no expectation that learning would take place, concerns about supervison.
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Post by freecharlie on Oct 19, 2017 17:58:05 GMT
e But who's there keeping an eye on the subs? Isn't it really easy to become a sub? You'd think that the school board wouldn't allow unsupervised subs to watch the kids--if for no other reason than their liability insurance underwriter would have a cow. Wow! As a sub, I'm pretty offended by this statement. In my district, subs are educators with teaching degrees and we are fully capable of working without someone "keeping an eye" on us. However, school would be closed if the teachers went on strike (and I wouldn't cross their picket line anyway). not all states/district's require teaching licenses. Some are a diploma and a background check (either high school or bachelor's)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2017 19:16:46 GMT
I think some parents miss the meaning of what it means to send the child to school during a strike.
You are having your child cross a picket line which means YOUR child/family does not support the cause the teachers are striking about. Usually it means the teachers are working without a contract in place but it can be other things.
Don't focus on the excused/unexcused absence. There are bigger issues in play here. Instead, focus on what the strike is about and decide if you support the teacher's reasons so you won't allow your child to cross a picket line, or you don't support the teachers so your family will cross the picket line.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2017 19:28:33 GMT
Question : Why does support of the teachers trump my kid's right to be educated? Again I don't believe in strikes and live in a state where contracts that have expired stay in place until an new agreement is reached. It is against the law for public employees to strike in NYS. Strikes disrupt many for the alleged benefit of few. Have a rally after school or at a school board meeting. Not reporting to work and disrupting kids education - and disrupting families who have to scramble for care - does not warrant support in my opinion.
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Post by mrsp on Oct 19, 2017 19:40:11 GMT
When I was a child, there was a three or four week teachers strike and school was closed. We had to go to school until July 4th and complained vigorously to any teacher that would listen! We were in the second or third grade, so old enough to understand we would have been out in June had it not been for the strike, but way too young to grasp what a strike was about. I hadn’t thought about that for thirty years! Things were so simple when we were kids, lol.
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Post by monklady123 on Oct 19, 2017 19:51:28 GMT
I would send them. The labor concerns are between the teachers and the admin. I pay a lot of school taxes and expect that accommodations would be made. And I have no issues crossing a picket line. If those picketing cannot act like adults then any improper behavior lessens their bargaining position, IMHO. In NYS we have the Taylor law which prohibits strikes by public employees. Of course the idiot Union President for the City of Bflo schools has ignored that in the past and been jailed. TG I am NOT in that shitty district. My reasons for not wanting to cross a picket line have nothing to do with a fear that there will be any kind of non-adult trouble (whatever you meant by that exactly). My reason is because I want to support the workers who are on strike. Most unions don't just go on strike for trivial reasons, so I support them by not crossing their picket line. It might mean keeping my kids home, or shopping at another grocery store, or whatever.
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