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Post by Basket1lady on Oct 31, 2017 16:42:17 GMT
Can you manage the finances of 3 in college if you stay at your current job?
If the answer is yes, I'd personally keep the flexibility. At first, I was thinking that with an empty nest, you would welcome the extra challenge of a new position. But that flexibility is worth a lot. A a weekday off is worth a lot. It's nice to schedule doctor appointments, get your hair done, grocery shop, travel to see your college kids... for me, that open time to slot the extras in my week is worth a lot to my mental sanity. And I don't think we always put enough value on our mental health and the rest that our minds need.
Having said that, there are millions of people who go to work every day and get the extras done. And after some adjustment, you could very well do the same. At this point, I think you need to ask yourself what you need moving forward in the coming years? The challenge? Space to breathe? Money?
What sport does your DS play? Will he have games all the way through the year, or just now?
And really, if this had been offered a year from now, how perfect would that have been? Good luck with your decision!
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Post by mrssmith on Oct 31, 2017 16:57:28 GMT
I voted for $20K more (due to kids in college - although will that affect financial aid applications? I'm not well versed in that.) I would see if you could negotiate to leave early, etc. for the games if it will only be for 1 more year. Ask for the moon. If they say no, stay at your current job.
However, will you want the job fulfillment next year when all the kids are at college - to challenge yourself and fulfill your career goals?
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Post by Rhondito on Oct 31, 2017 17:04:33 GMT
I basically have your current job situation. I love where I work, I love my job, I love my coworkers, and I have some of the best bosses anyone could have. They have been absolutely wonderful to me over the 17 years I've been here. I can pretty much come and go as I please - within reason, we don't take advantage of their leniency - it's just a great environment all around. That said, it would take a buttload of money for me to leave. I might consider it at 20-25K, but truth be told if I told my boss I had another offer at that amount, he'd match it. For me to leave without question, it would take something in the 35-40K range - and I'd still be heartbroken.
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Post by christine58 on Oct 31, 2017 17:07:44 GMT
I do love my Mondays off. They make my life sane. There's your answer!!
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Post by PaperAngel on Oct 31, 2017 17:33:59 GMT
Congratulations on your dilemma! It appears you cannot make a bad decision; both options are ideal for different reasons. Best wishes & (((hugs)))...
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Post by caspad on Oct 31, 2017 17:47:58 GMT
My first reaction is to go for the dream job. But negotiate so the dream job fits your dream work scenario as well.
Ask if they would be open to a 4 day schedule.
Ask the new boss if he would be open to you coming in earlier so you can leave early on days your son has games. That scenario will only be the next six months or so, right? He might be open to some flexibility for school/kid things as long as you let him know ahead of time.
Also what is the salary bump for becoming a manager? Having a number in mind that you would need to make the switch, they just might meet it!
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Oct 31, 2017 17:52:17 GMT
Take your current salary and divide it by your 4 Days of hours then take your hourly rate & do not switch for any less than that or it’s actually a demotion.!
I was offered another job at my company. But it was an hour more per day and when I did the math it was 25 cents less an hour pay. ( plus a longer commute ) I turned it down because it wasn’t a raise it was less money. Value your time, if your going to be giving more of it make sure your properly compensated. That ^ I haven't responded to your poll because to me it is not about the actual $$ amount but what that represents. You need to make at least 20% more to be equal. I would look at it like this.. divide your annual salary by 52. Now you know your weekly rate. Divide that by 4. Now you know your daily rate. One day x 52 would be a lateral move salary wise. So I would need to make at least that plus... at least another 10%. If you made $100 a week at your current job you would earn $25 a day. or 5,200 annually. So I would need to make $125 per week plus 10% which is 12.50 so at least $137 a week or $7,124 annually.
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Post by peasapie on Oct 31, 2017 20:53:11 GMT
You are still your enough to want to make a good career move. Your kids will be in college and you'll have more time for it, too. I would ask for more than you think you can get, and then take it if they offer.
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Post by cycworker on Oct 31, 2017 21:07:51 GMT
You all have to be my pretend spouse. I feel so torn about this opportunity... I had a terrible boss. So terrible, I found a job 1 hour away and was ready to switch. My director told me she'd get me a new manager. I didn't think that was possible (many prior discussions), but she made it happen. So for the last year, I have been SO SO happy at work. I love my manager. She is extraordinary. I like my team and my new director is incredible. My job is the same as before, I just fall under this new, fabulous group. I work 4 days/week and I have the freedom to do what I want. I have done a lot for the group of people for whom I work (not my team) and built a good reputation. When I need to leave in the middle of the day, I leave. I also work whenever they need me as well. No one questions me at all because I get the job done. A big opportunity came up in the same company, but different location (equal distance from my home). The director wants me and I like him. I worked for him briefly a long time ago. He's military and a lot stricter than my current situation. I don't mind that. I like order. This job is my dream job. The one I want because I can make a lot of changes in the company. The cons are that I have to work 5 days a week. That's a BIG con. I have to manage people, which I don't love, but it's a small con because of what I can do. But I have to re-establish my reputation. That's time-consuming. I feel a little worn out with even the thought of that. I'll have to work long, hard hours to get that done, just when I was reaping the benefits of NOT doing that. I'll be leaving a manager I adore for someone who I like and admire, but see that he's quite a bit stricter. No more running out to see my son's games at 4pm. He's a senior so it's his last year of this. I think it comes down to money. How much money is it worth for me to move to this job? I'll have 3 kids in college next year, so it's worth something to me. It's not worth it for less than $10K; I know that for sure. But is that enough for working one extra day/week and not having it "easy" at work? (I work a lot of hours, but they are whatever hours I choose) How much would you do it for? Or would you at all? I would get a larger bonus (I get 7% now, and I think it'd be 10%, so not a ton, but still!). I hate that this is the job I have wanted for years and they are finally creating it!!!Based on everything I have bolded, I think you should go for the new job. The timing might not be perfect, but IMHO, you need to make a decision whether you want a job or a career. With your youngest heading off to college next year, I'd be focussing on my career. Having a great boss right now wouldn't be a reason for me to stay. There is no guarantee she will be there in a year. I can understand going back to 5 days a week would be hard, but with an empty nest next year your routine and need for flexibility is going to change. More than anything, because this is an internal opportunity, IME, it sends up a red flag if an employee is identified as a good fit for a promotion turns it down for reasons that have nothing to do with the job content. They do get dropped for consideration for other career track opportunities. ' @realllyred - I have to agree with this post. And I am saying that as the most change averse poster on the board. I think if I were in your shoes, I'd start by asking some more questions. Basically, as others have suggested, I'd try to do some probing to find out if your potential new boss likes your skills enough that he's willing to bend a bit to have you in this job. I would let it be known that I'm interested, and that there are certain things in my current position that I'd be unwilling to give up and see what happens. Your current boss can/should vouch for you that you don't abuse the privileges you get re: adjusting your schedule to meet your family needs.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 23:37:22 GMT
Th increase hsould be at least 25% more, 20% for the extra day and another 5% or so for Management.
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Post by AnotherPea on Oct 31, 2017 23:46:50 GMT
People don’t quit jobs they quit bosses. I would not leave a job I loved with a boss I loved... That is not my experience at all. I've outlasted bosses in about half of my jobs. Bosses come and go but the job is the job. I would not stay in a job just because I loved my boss. My boss might decide to leave next week.
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Post by bc2ca on Nov 1, 2017 0:05:38 GMT
Th increase hsould be at least 25% more, 20% for the extra day and another 5% or so for Management. I'm assuming the 10 - 20% increase is for increased responsibilities, not for an increase in hours. I'm assuming she has negotiated her current 4 day week for full-time hours, not for an 80% part-time job, so there technically isn't an increase in hours with the new job. They are spread over 5 days and less flexible (5 days x 8 hours instead of 4 days x 10 hours for example). Can you clarify, Really Red?
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Post by gsquaredmom on Nov 1, 2017 0:17:47 GMT
Dream job? Take it. Who knows what your boss has planned for herself? You can meet her for coffee or dinner or whatever every once in awhile.
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Post by Really Red on Nov 1, 2017 12:13:39 GMT
BTT for update
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Post by originalvanillabean on Nov 1, 2017 12:17:17 GMT
Great update!! Keep us posted
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