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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 17:24:59 GMT
"A man who said he voted for President Trump in 2016 said on Monday that if Jesus Christ told him Trump colluded with Russia, he would still have to check with the president to see if it was true. “If Jesus Christ gets down off the cross and told me Trump is with Russia, I would tell him, 'Hold on a second. I need to check with the president if it's true,’” said Mark Lee, one of six Trump voters to appear on a CNN panel Monday morning. Lee said that he doesn’t believe having multimillionaires in Trump’s Cabinet is counterproductive to Trump’s “drain the swamp” message. “I love that,” he said. “They’re not politicians.”" thehill.com/homenews/administration/361158-trump-voter-if-jesus-christ-told-me-trump-colluded-with-russia-idWow. Never thought we'd be here. |
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Post by rodeomom on Nov 21, 2017 17:30:24 GMT
You can cut the stupid with a knife.😖 ETA:  |
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Post by anonrefugee on Nov 21, 2017 17:36:59 GMT
There was a decent discussion on Morning Joe about this, listing multiple opinions or beliefs some were disregarding in order to support Trump. They said it was a characteristic behavior supporting a dictator.
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Post by gar on Nov 21, 2017 17:39:46 GMT
I just can't fathom that thought process...at all...  |
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Post by sueg on Nov 21, 2017 17:41:01 GMT
And he would probably call himself a Christian too.  |
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Post by anniebygaslight on Nov 21, 2017 17:43:00 GMT
Bloody hell.
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Post by anonrefugee on Nov 21, 2017 17:43:17 GMT
I just can't fathom that thought process...at all... Because you actually think in the process!!!  |
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Post by jenjie on Nov 21, 2017 17:44:42 GMT
I was just telling my kids yesterday, politics has become an idol to so many people. Political expediency is the name of the game.
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Post by casii on Nov 21, 2017 18:30:26 GMT
I saw that Trump voter panel and my jaw dropped when I heard that. On a brighter note, there was one woman who had almost instant voters remorse on her Trump vote. At least she is thinking.
I've all but stopped speaking to several family members who behave in much the same way as this man. And they definitely identify as Christians. (I'm afraid to find out their opinion on Moore) I can only attribute it to them getting all their info via Fox and alt-right media sources. A little simple fact checking on their end would inform them that those sources are often falsely reporting, but they're only interested in hearing reporting that affirms their beliefs and feelings.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 19:12:17 GMT
It will certainly make for an interesting Social Psychology commentary one day.
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Post by hennybutton on Nov 21, 2017 19:24:13 GMT
There was a decent discussion on Morning Joe about this, listing multiple opinions or beliefs some were disregarding in order to support Trump. They said it was a characteristic behavior supporting a dictator. I have been reading the biography of Dietrich Bonhoeffer by Eric Metaxas. He was a Lutheran pastor and theologian who was very outspoken against Hitler's regime. The history stuff in the book is fascinating and frightening. I am not exaggerating when I say that what is happening in this country right now is just like Germany in the 1930s. You can't even argue that the author was trying to make a comparison between Hitler and Trump because it was published in 2010. |
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Post by jenjie on Nov 21, 2017 19:41:02 GMT
There was a decent discussion on Morning Joe about this, listing multiple opinions or beliefs some were disregarding in order to support Trump. They said it was a characteristic behavior supporting a dictator. I have been reading the biography of Dietrich Bonhoeffer by Eric Metaxas. He was a Lutheran pastor and theologian who was very outspoken against Hitler's regime. The history stuff in the book is fascinating and frightening. I am not exaggerating when I say that what is happening in this country right now is just like Germany in the 1930s. You can't even argue that the author was trying to make a comparison between Hitler and Trump because it was published in 2010. That’s scary. and Bonhoeffer was amazing. |
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Post by casii on Nov 21, 2017 21:06:54 GMT
There was a decent discussion on Morning Joe about this, listing multiple opinions or beliefs some were disregarding in order to support Trump. They said it was a characteristic behavior supporting a dictator. I have been reading the biography of Dietrich Bonhoeffer by Eric Metaxas. He was a Lutheran pastor and theologian who was very outspoken against Hitler's regime. The history stuff in the book is fascinating and frightening. I am not exaggerating when I say that what is happening in this country right now is just like Germany in the 1930s. You can't even argue that the author was trying to make a comparison between Hitler and Trump because it was published in 2010. You might also enjoy "In The Garden of Beasts" by Eric Larson. It's a factual account of the rise of Hitler along with the story of the US Ambassador's family at the time. I was reading it prior to the election and the similarities were chilling. I said the US was smarter than that. I was wrong. |
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Post by hennybutton on Nov 21, 2017 21:30:22 GMT
I have been reading the biography of Dietrich Bonhoeffer by Eric Metaxas. He was a Lutheran pastor and theologian who was very outspoken against Hitler's regime. The history stuff in the book is fascinating and frightening. I am not exaggerating when I say that what is happening in this country right now is just like Germany in the 1930s. You can't even argue that the author was trying to make a comparison between Hitler and Trump because it was published in 2010. You might also enjoy "In The Garden of Beasts" by Eric Larson. It's a factual account of the rise of Hitler along with the story of the US Ambassador's family at the time. I was reading it prior to the election and the similarities were chilling. I said the US was smarter than that. I was wrong. I have an advance copy of that. I only got halfway through. I may need to pick it back up. |
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Post by jayfab on Nov 21, 2017 21:31:38 GMT
I swear it's like a cult.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Nov 21, 2017 21:43:20 GMT
You might also enjoy "In The Garden of Beasts" by Eric Larson. I I started to read this after I got through Devil in the White City. But IIRC, it was tough for me to get into it, and it was a library book- so I had to return it. After Trump's election, it might have more relevance to me. I'll have to keep an eye out for it at the used book store. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 21:50:41 GMT
I swear it's like a cult. It is exactly like a cult to too many. No reason gets through. No logic. Just "beliefs". A friend's sisiter lived w/in a cult like this for years, and though she finally got out about 20 years ago, she is still super susceptible to all manner of come-ons...tarot readings, fortune tellers, conspiracy theories. Oh, and yes, she's a Trump supporter. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 21, 2017 21:53:54 GMT
Here are 4 things Trump just said about Roy Moore and womenOn the Senate race in Alabama: "We don’t need a liberal person in there, a Democrat, Jones. I’ve looked at his record. It’s terrible on crime. It’s terrible on the border. It’s terrible on military. I can tell you for a fact we do not need somebody who’s going to be bad on crime, bad on borders, bad for the military, bad for the Second Amendment." On the allegations: "He denies it. Look, he denies it. If you look at what is really going on, if you look at all the things that have happened over the last 48 hours. He totally denies hit. He says it didn’t happen. And you know you have to look at him also. He says 40 years ago this did not happen." On if he'll campaign for Moore: "I’ll be letting you know next week. But I can tell you, you don’t need somebody who’s soft on crime like Jones." On women: "Women are very special. I think it’s a very special time. There’s a lot of things that’s coming out. I think it’s good for our society. I think it’s very, very good for women and I’m very happy a lot of this is coming out. I’m very happy it’s being exposed." November 21, 2017 3:46pm EST President Trump may campaign for Roy MooreFrom CNN's Jeremy Diamond President Donald Trump on Tuesday left the door open to campaigning with embattled Alabama Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore. "I’ll be letting you know next week," he said when asked whether he will campaign with Moore. This came as he repeatedly defended Moore from allegations of sexual misconduct and tore into Moore's Democratic opponent, Doug Jones.' www.cnn.com/2017/11/13/politics/roy-moore-latest/index.htmlEnough said?
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Post by Merge on Nov 21, 2017 21:58:21 GMT
There was a decent discussion on Morning Joe about this, listing multiple opinions or beliefs some were disregarding in order to support Trump. They said it was a characteristic behavior supporting a dictator. I have been reading the biography of Dietrich Bonhoeffer by Eric Metaxas. He was a Lutheran pastor and theologian who was very outspoken against Hitler's regime. The history stuff in the book is fascinating and frightening. I am not exaggerating when I say that what is happening in this country right now is just like Germany in the 1930s. You can't even argue that the author was trying to make a comparison between Hitler and Trump because it was published in 2010. My husband, Republican and holder of a master's degree in history with a specialization in WWII, agrees that there are disturbing similarities. He holds out hope that our constitution, justice system and term limits will prevent what happened then from happening here. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 22:43:09 GMT
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Nov 21, 2017 22:50:39 GMT
If you look at what is really going on, if you look at all the things that have happened over the last 48 hours. He totally denies hit. He says it didn’t happen. ^^^ TRUMP said that about Moore- revirdsuba99 did NOT say that-- to be clear. apparently all you have to do is deny it. That's what Sarah Huckabee SAnders said, when she was asked- something to the effect of, 'look, Al Franken apologized. President Trump has denied the allegations against him,' as if that somehow makes a difference. The fact that Trump (and now Moore) SAY they didn't do it is the deciding factor, somehow. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 21, 2017 22:55:34 GMT
Well - I think his feeling is that that there is only so much damage Trump can do in his (we hope) 4 years. But we shall see. |
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Post by Delta Dawn on Nov 21, 2017 23:08:55 GMT
"A man who said he voted for President Trump in 2016 said on Monday that if Jesus Christ told him Trump colluded with Russia, he would still have to check with the president to see if it was true. “If Jesus Christ gets down off the cross and told me Trump is with Russia, I would tell him, 'Hold on a second. I need to check with the president if it's true,’” said Mark Lee, one of six Trump voters to appear on a CNN panel Monday morning. Lee said that he doesn’t believe having multimillionaires in Trump’s Cabinet is counterproductive to Trump’s “drain the swamp” message. “I love that,” he said. “They’re not politicians.”" thehill.com/homenews/administration/361158-trump-voter-if-jesus-christ-told-me-trump-colluded-with-russia-idWow. Never thought we'd be here. Does that make The Donald a prophet? It sounds that way. I wonder if your president talks to God, too? He probably has God on speed dial. |
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Post by casii on Nov 21, 2017 23:25:19 GMT
Here are 4 things Trump just said about Roy Moore and womenOn the Senate race in Alabama: "We don’t need a liberal person in there, a Democrat, Jones. I’ve looked at his record. It’s terrible on crime. It’s terrible on the border. It’s terrible on military. I can tell you for a fact we do not need somebody who’s going to be bad on crime, bad on borders, bad for the military, bad for the Second Amendment." On the allegations: "He denies it. Look, he denies it. If you look at what is really going on, if you look at all the things that have happened over the last 48 hours. He totally denies hit. He says it didn’t happen. And you know you have to look at him also. He says 40 years ago this did not happen." You know, because there are very fine people on both sides. My ass. The party of Nazis and Pedophiles I guess. If you'd asked any of us a few years ago if our government would let this kind of idiocy stand in the White House, would any of us believe it? Even contemplate it? |
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Post by drummergirl65 on Nov 21, 2017 23:26:44 GMT
I would love to know the name of the book about Bonhoeffer.
And it makes me weep for humanity that anyone would believe Trump over Jesus. ☹️
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Post by SockMonkey on Nov 21, 2017 23:30:31 GMT
At this point, if you still support Trump, I just have to assume you’re a racist, a bigot, a sexist, stupid, or some combination of the four.
I mean... all the evidence is there.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 22, 2017 0:14:21 GMT
If you look at what is really going on, if you look at all the things that have happened over the last 48 hours. He totally denies hit. He says it didn’t happen. ^^^ TRUMP said that about Moore- revirdsuba99 did NOT say that-- to be clear. apparently all you have to do is deny it. That's what Sarah Huckabee SAnders said, when she was asked- something to the effect of, 'look, Al Franken apologized. President Trump has denied the allegations against him,' as if that somehow makes a difference. The fact that Trump (and now Moore) SAY they didn't do it is the deciding factor, somehow. Thanks so much. I hope Sarah watches her children very carefully for many years to come! Wait she's not, she is too busy defending dt and Moore! |
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Post by hennybutton on Nov 22, 2017 0:59:25 GMT
I would love to know the name of the book about Bonhoeffer. And it makes me weep for humanity that anyone would believe Trump over Jesus. ☹️ Bonhoeffer: Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, Spy |
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Post by drummergirl65 on Nov 22, 2017 2:21:32 GMT
I would love to know the name of the book about Bonhoeffer. And it makes me weep for humanity that anyone would believe Trump over Jesus. ☹️ Bonhoeffer: Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, Spy Thanks! |
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Post by Country Ham on Nov 22, 2017 2:39:26 GMT
I swear every president in recent history has been compared to Hitler. The last 8 years with Obama was the same thing. His charisma etc. Now it's Trump. Nothing new under the heavens.
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