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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 3, 2017 22:27:28 GMT
Roy Moore? Scandal is nothing new in Alabama politicsby ALEX SEITZ-WALD DEC 3 2017, 8:08 AM ET
It was a banner year for sleaze in Alabama politics in 2016.
Springtime brought Alabama voters audio recordings of their married governor, Robert Bentley, telling his mistress how he likes to "put my hands on your breasts." And they learned about how he used state resources to cover up the affair, including sending a state helicopter to retrieve his wallet after a fight with his wife.
In the summer, they saw the powerful Speaker of the State House of Representatives sentenced to four years in prison after presiding over what one prominent commentator called an "orgy of greed and corruption like we have never seen."
Come fall, Alabamians watched as the chief justice of the state Supreme Court was found guilty of violating multiple judicial canons and suspended from the bench for refusing to follow a U.S. Supreme Court decision.
And even before those scandals decapitated all three branches of government in less than a year, Alabama was ranked in the top 10 on public corruption convictions, awarded a D+ on ethics by the Center for Public Integrity, and found to be one of the "most corrupt" states in the country by a 2014 Harvard Study.
All that may help explain why some Alabamians seem to have shrugged off the scandal involving Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore and his alleged sexual misconduct with teenage girls ahead of the December 12 special election.
Inured by years of scandal and sleaze some Alabama voters have become oblivious to politicians' foibles — as long as those officials are with them on the issues.
"Alabama traditionally has a cynical political culture in which the people seem to neither think much of nor expect much from their leaders," said Glen Browder, a former Democratic congressman from the state. "They expect politicians to be crooked."
Browder, who taught political scientist at Jacksonville State University before entering politics, said the culture of transactionalism can be traced back to the state's founding as a haven for wealthy plantation owners, rather than as a bastion of good governance.
Much more at link:
www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/roy-moore-scandal-nothing-new-alabama-politics-n825831
I thought we were bad up here, but nooooooooooooooo...............
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Post by georgiapea on Dec 3, 2017 22:54:06 GMT
We can't get out of that state fast enough. I'm very happy in our Florida house but DH is still up there working and we own property there. It's so embarrassing to be associated with Alabama in any way and to make my cringing worse I was one of Gov. Bentley's political appointees.
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Post by georgiapea on Dec 3, 2017 22:54:37 GMT
We can't get out of that state fast enough. I'm very happy in our Florida house but DH is still up there working and we own property there. It's so embarrassing to be associated with Alabama in any way and to make my cringing worse I was one of Gov. Bentley's political appointees.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 23:21:59 GMT
I feel the same disgust about living in California. Nobody here represents me, nor my family, nor our beliefs. Nancy Pelosi is a joke, and Jerry Brown is an embarrassment to any thinking person. Dianne Feinstine is a "little" better, but her and her husband got RICH on the backs of the taxpayer.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2017 0:36:27 GMT
I feel the same disgust about living in California. Nobody here represents me, nor my family, nor our beliefs. Nancy Pelosi is a joke, and Jerry Brown is an embarrassment to any thinking person. Dianne Feinstine is a "little" better, but her and her husband got RICH on the backs of the taxpayer. If you feel that strongly then pack your bags and leave. |
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Post by frenchie on Dec 4, 2017 1:12:34 GMT
I feel the same disgust about living in California. Nobody here represents me, nor my family, nor our beliefs. Nancy Pelosi is a joke, and Jerry Brown is an embarrassment to any thinking person. Dianne Feinstine is a "little" better, but her and her husband got RICH on the backs of the taxpayer. If you feel that strongly then pack your bags and leave. What a bitchy thing to say. There are manyof us here who are no fans of Trump-and from reading a lot here, I know that you are also not a Trump supporter. What if every time you mentioned how Trump doesn't represent you, someone tells you that you should just pack up and leave? It doesn't feel so good when you're voicing your opinion and someone hits you with a "just leave ". Maybe @donnie can't just pick up and leave. Wth |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2017 2:04:39 GMT
I feel the same disgust about living in California. Nobody here represents me, nor my family, nor our beliefs. Nancy Pelosi is a joke, and Jerry Brown is an embarrassment to any thinking person. Dianne Feinstine is a "little" better, but her and her husband got RICH on the backs of the taxpayer. If you feel that strongly then pack your bags and leave. I will when I'm ready thank you.  Thankfully, I live inland where people are a little more tolerable. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2017 2:16:05 GMT
If you feel that strongly then pack your bags and leave. What a bitchy thing to say. There are manyof us here who are no fans of Trump-and from reading a lot here, I know that you are also not a Trump supporter. What if every time you mentioned how Trump doesn't represent you, someone tells you that you should just pack up and leave? It doesn't feel so good when you're voicing your opinion and someone hits you with a "just leave ". Maybe @donnie can't just pick up and leave. Wth Thank you Frenchie. I thought that remark was kind of off the wall also. Fred is, of course, allowed to have an opinion as am I, and sometimes it's hard for some people to be polite for some reason. I am not a Trump supporter, but I didn't vote for Hillary either. Although I didn't vote for Trump, I don't hate him like some people here do, I surely didn't like Obama when he was president, but I didn't hate him either. I surely didn't vote for Pelosi nor Feinstein! I know that living in California, there will never be anything but liberal Democrat representatives. Fact of life. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2017 4:03:58 GMT
What a bitchy thing to say. There are manyof us here who are no fans of Trump-and from reading a lot here, I know that you are also not a Trump supporter. What if every time you mentioned how Trump doesn't represent you, someone tells you that you should just pack up and leave? It doesn't feel so good when you're voicing your opinion and someone hits you with a "just leave ". Maybe @donnie can't just pick up and leave. Wth Thank you Frenchie. I thought that remark was kind of off the wall also. Fred is, of course, allowed to have an opinion as am I, and sometimes it's hard for some people to be polite for some reason. I am not a Trump supporter, but I didn't vote for Hillary either. Although I didn't vote for Trump, I don't hate him like some people here do, I surely didn't like Obama when he was president, but I didn't hate him either. I surely didn't vote for Pelosi nor Feinstein!  I know that living in California, there will never be anything but liberal Democrat representatives. Fact of life. Here’s a question. If you truly feel like this.... “I feel the same disgust about living in California. Nobody here represents me, nor my family, nor our beliefs” Why would you want tp stay in California if you feel this way? Serious question. If you feel “disgust” why stay? Personally if I felt “disgust” in a place that “doesn’t represent my beliefs” I would move heaven and earth to get me and mine out of Dodge to someplace more in tune with my beliefs. Life is too damn short to live in a place you “feel disgust” living in. Especially since the political climate isn’t going to change much in the foreseeable future. If anything it will move more to the left. I honestly don’t understand why anyone would live in a place they feel disgust about. Also trying to compare how people feel about trump and President Obama and how you feel about living in California is a false comparison. The majority of government that affects us in our day to day life is on the State and local level. A large part of regulations and annoying laws again are at the state and local level. So those laws and regulations impact a specific area or state. There are 49 other states of which some may be more in-tune with your beliefs. On the federal level we all benefit or are all screwed by the federal laws meaning the area is the entire United States as opposed to just specific area like California. But whatever. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2017 4:28:09 GMT
There are other things that keep me in California if it's something you really need to know. It's just the political atmosphere that is depressing and yes, disgusting (IMO). I have family here--married children and grandchildren, and our church family that I love.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 17:46:08 GMT
GOP Strategist Warns That The Republican Party Is On Death Watch After Embracing Roy Moore
ttp://www.politicususa.com/2017/12/05/gop-strategist-warns-republican-party-death-watch-embracing-roy-moore.html
"I believe they will lose women in suburban districts and swing states.... "
Ya think? Ya think women are tired of being told to sit down and "lighten up"?
The day of reckoning is at hand - if we vote for it.
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Post by casii on Dec 5, 2017 18:13:51 GMT
"I believe they will lose women in suburban districts and swing states.... " Ya think? Ya think women are tired of being told to sit down and "lighten up"? The day of reckoning is at hand - if we vote for it. Moore will send all of us to his Bible study (which crazy Bible he's reading from, I don't know) which says women won't even get to vote in his perfect Handmaid's Tale world. You know the one where Handmaid's are indoctrinated from the onset of puberty. |
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Post by cade387 on Dec 5, 2017 18:20:37 GMT
I feel the same disgust about living in California. Nobody here represents me, nor my family, nor our beliefs. Nancy Pelosi is a joke, and Jerry Brown is an embarrassment to any thinking person. Dianne Feinstine is a "little" better, but her and her husband got RICH on the backs of the taxpayer. Obviously you are entitled to your opinion, but I fail to see the comparison. On one hand, you don't feel represented. I'm in the same boat. Alabama has a situation of people directly violating the law and molesting people - I see that completely different. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 5, 2017 18:26:25 GMT
Moore will send all of us to his Bible study (which crazy Bible he's reading from, I don't know) which says women won't even get to vote in his perfect Handmaid's Tale world. You know the one where Handmaid's are indoctrinated from the onset of puberty. Moore's fawning females with such ANGRY faces in the pictures! And they are angry. Where are the loving Christians with faces of peace and serenity? |
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Thankfully, I live inland where people are a little more tolerable. 
