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Post by Olan on Dec 20, 2017 21:16:04 GMT
Who will she blame this time? "What my own son is going through, what he is going through coming back, I can relate to other families who feel ramifications of PTSD and some of the woundedness that our soldiers do return with," the former Republican vice presidential candidate and governor of Alaska said at the time. "And it makes me realize, more than ever, it is now or never for the sake of America's finest that we have that commander in chief who will respect them" He owned an AR-15 at the time of the 2016 arrest. amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/12/18/politics/track-palin-arrested-domestic-violence/index.html |
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Post by LeaP on Dec 20, 2017 21:29:44 GMT
He did serve in Iraq so I am holding off donning my judgy mcjudgerpants. She, however, needs to continue fading into the woodwork.
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Post by papersilly on Dec 20, 2017 21:37:20 GMT
i was just reading this story. i feel so bad for the injuries that her husband sustained. i'm glad Track was charged but seriously? the bail was only $5,000.00? how's about he sit in jail and think for a while. he...beat...his...dad...bloody. and this wasn't his first brush with domestic violence. WTH man.
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Post by annabella on Dec 20, 2017 21:39:51 GMT
She knew calling the police would result in the whole country knowing her business. He must have been that out of control.
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Post by mrssmith on Dec 20, 2017 21:42:20 GMT
I have no fondness for Sarah Palin, but it seems like Track has some serious problems so I think it's a sad situation.
I'm also wondering if the "medication" he was on was actually illegal drugs.
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Post by Anita on Dec 20, 2017 21:54:17 GMT
It makes me realize, more than ever, it is now or never for the sake of America that we provide mental health care in this country and stop trying to shame people who need it.
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Post by Tamhugh on Dec 20, 2017 21:58:34 GMT
He did serve in Iraq so I am holding off donning my judgy mcjudgerpants. She, however, needs to continue fading into the woodwork. While I agree that he could very well be suffering from PTSD, I am not sure she can blame all or most of his problems on Obama and his policies. I may be totally remembering this wrong, but back when he was first enlisting, I swear that the rumors were that he did it to avoid some legal troubles. He has had issues for as I can remember hearing about him. And to be fair, that family is a hot mess. Wasn't he with them when the family got into their drunken brawl a few years ago? |
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Post by pilcas on Dec 20, 2017 22:15:19 GMT
Yeah, the medication...sounds like high on drugs to me.
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Post by ginacivey on Dec 20, 2017 22:27:08 GMT
i'm also betting on drugs
it's a common route for PTSD suffers
i don't know if he has PTSD
but he's screwed up for sure
i hope they can get him the help they need
it's a hard, hard battle for parents
without the spotlight on them
i am reserving any and all judgement
no matter who his mother is - she's heartbroken right now
gina
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 22:41:30 GMT
That whole family needs help.
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Post by bc2ca on Dec 20, 2017 22:51:05 GMT
It makes me realize, more than ever, it is now or never for the sake of America that we provide mental health care in this country and stop trying to shame people who need it. This!!! I recall talk of JD history for Track and rumors of a painkiller addiction. I have no doubt he has PTSD, but I think he went into the Reserves with issues and came out with more. They are clearly not being addressed based on multiple domestic violence charges since coming home. I hope he can get access to the mental healthcare he needs. |
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Post by ginacivey on Dec 20, 2017 23:08:17 GMT
I hope he can get access to the mental healthcare he needs. access and the desire to get some care access isn't always enough gina |
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Post by disneypal on Dec 20, 2017 23:09:07 GMT
The "medicine" could have been illegal drugs but it did mention he drank alcohol and some meds just don't mix with alcohol so that could be part of the issue. It sounds like he has some serious anger issues - he may have PTSD, none of us really know but it sounds like this attack was something more. I hope he gets some help.
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Post by anonrefugee on Dec 20, 2017 23:12:35 GMT
I hope he can get access to the mental healthcare he needs. access and the desire to get some care access isn't always enough gina Thanks for saying this. Maybe I'm wrong but I think the Palins are affluent, plus well connected enough that access isn't an issue. |
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Post by bc2ca on Dec 20, 2017 23:15:41 GMT
I hope he can get access to the mental healthcare he needs. access and the desire to get some care access isn't always enough gina Very true |
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Post by scrappinmama on Dec 20, 2017 23:50:21 GMT
It's a very sad story. PTSD is no joke and I'm not surprised if Track is suffering from that. I hope he can get the help that he needs, and hope that his father makes a full recovery.
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Post by 2peaornot2pea on Dec 21, 2017 0:39:30 GMT
It makes me realize, more than ever, it is now or never for the sake of America that we provide mental health care in this country and stop trying to shame people who need it. This!!! I recall talk of JD history for Track and rumors of a painkiller addiction. I have no doubt he has PTSD, but I think he went into the Reserves with issues and came out with more. They are clearly not being addressed based on multiple domestic violence charges since coming home. I hope he can get access to the mental healthcare he needs. And for God's sakes, take his guns away from him, before he shoots himself or someone else!! |
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Post by 2peaornot2pea on Dec 21, 2017 0:40:56 GMT
access and the desire to get some care access isn't always enough gina Thanks for saying this. Maybe I'm wrong but I think the Palins are affluent, plus well connected enough that access isn't an issue. It is very very very very difficult to make adults get help/treatment if they refuse to do it on their own.
Maybe the courts can force him into it now.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 21, 2017 1:11:05 GMT
Maybe the courts can force him into it now. That would be helpful, but it is only for a limited time, unless he is confined. |
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Post by femalebusiness on Dec 21, 2017 1:32:16 GMT
None of the crap that goes on in that family is surprising, they are the lowest form of trash. They have raised a bunch of loser kids and want to blame it on everything but their parenting. Excuse me if I have no sympathy for people who have no shame.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 21, 2017 4:26:15 GMT
Knowing that she’s claimed he had PTSD—-But they won’t take his guns away.
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Post by pinklady on Dec 21, 2017 6:09:21 GMT
None of the crap that goes on in that family is surprising, they are the lowest form of trash. They have raised a bunch of loser kids and want to blame it on everything but their parenting. Excuse me if I have no sympathy for people who have no shame.  My first thought when I heard about this was "white trash at its finest". |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 13:42:08 GMT
"Magistrate Judge Tara Logsdon approved house arrest with electronic monitoring for Palin and kept his $5,000 bail. Logsdon said she expected Palin to be released Wednesday. Once released, he's not allowed to go within an "exclusion zone" around his parents' home along the Parks Highway, or near liquor stores or places serving alcohol. He can't drink and must take prescription drugs only as prescribed. All weapons must be taken out of his house. Palin, who lives alone, will be allowed to go to medical appointments and to work at Alaska Directional LLC, a drilling company in Palmer. " www.adn.com/alaska-news/crime-courts/2017/12/20/judge-grants-house-arrest-for-track-palin/PS - Track did not receive a Combat Infantry Badge on discharge, being interpreted as not having seen combat. Military peas feel free to comment if that's not correct. Discharge paperwork picture at link: 3.bp.blogspot.com/_d4ad6QlLNEE/TPLCjEmyFcI/AAAAAAAAAu4/iNxp4D8u-20/s1600/track_palin_discharge.jpg |
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Post by used2scrap on Dec 21, 2017 13:54:22 GMT
"Magistrate Judge Tara Logsdon approved house arrest with electronic monitoring for Palin and kept his $5,000 bail. Logsdon said she expected Palin to be released Wednesday. Once released, he's not allowed to go within an "exclusion zone" around his parents' home along the Parks Highway, or near liquor stores or places serving alcohol. He can't drink and must take prescription drugs only as prescribed. All weapons must be taken out of his house. Palin, who lives alone, will be allowed to go to medical appointments and to work at Alaska Directional LLC, a drilling company in Palmer. " www.adn.com/alaska-news/crime-courts/2017/12/20/judge-grants-house-arrest-for-track-palin/PS - Track did not receive a Combat Infantry Badge on discharge, being interpreted as not having seen combat. Military peas feel free to comment if that's not correct. Discharge paperwork picture at link: 3.bp.blogspot.com/_d4ad6QlLNEE/TPLCjEmyFcI/AAAAAAAAAu4/iNxp4D8u-20/s1600/track_palin_discharge.jpgI don't know what his service in Iraq was, or his mental health before joining the army, but direct combat is not necessary for PTSD. Mortuary affairs, casualty assistance, drone pilots, military sexual trauma, convoy operators, medical personnel, survivor guilt, the people sitting across from the Gen shot in the head eating in the chow hall... I hope he, and his family, get the help they need. Regardless of the origins, they are clearly in a dire state. |
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Post by Olan on Dec 21, 2017 14:11:31 GMT
"Magistrate Judge Tara Logsdon approved house arrest with electronic monitoring for Palin and kept his $5,000 bail. Logsdon said she expected Palin to be released Wednesday. Once released, he's not allowed to go within an "exclusion zone" around his parents' home along the Parks Highway, or near liquor stores or places serving alcohol. He can't drink and must take prescription drugs only as prescribed. All weapons must be taken out of his house. Palin, who lives alone, will be allowed to go to medical appointments and to work at Alaska Directional LLC, a drilling company in Palmer. " www.adn.com/alaska-news/crime-courts/2017/12/20/judge-grants-house-arrest-for-track-palin/PS - Track did not receive a Combat Infantry Badge on discharge, being interpreted as not having seen combat. Military peas feel free to comment if that's not correct. Discharge paperwork picture at link: 3.bp.blogspot.com/_d4ad6QlLNEE/TPLCjEmyFcI/AAAAAAAAAu4/iNxp4D8u-20/s1600/track_palin_discharge.jpgI don't know what his service in Iraq was, or his mental health before joining the army, but direct combat is not necessary for PTSD. Mortuary affairs, casualty assistance, drone pilots, military sexual trauma, convoy operators, medical personnel, survivor guilt, the people sitting across from the Gen shot in the head eating in the chow hall... I hope he, and his family, get the help they need. Regardless of the origins, they are clearly in a dire state. I think some regard is needed *shrugs* you can't help your child if you make excuses for their behavior. The source of an issue needs to be determined before help can commence. I would bet Track spent 1 yr in the military playing GI Joe (which isnt logical punishment for a kid who already likes guns btw) instead of experiencing natural consequences in his hometown. Mom pulled a couple strings to get him in and now wants everyone to believe he is a war hero and Obama is to blame for his violent tendencies |
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Post by ginacivey on Dec 24, 2017 18:29:00 GMT
None of the crap that goes on in that family is surprising, they are the lowest form of trash. They have raised a bunch of loser kids and want to blame it on everything but their parenting. Excuse me if I have no sympathy for people who have no shame. My first thought when I heard about this was "white trash at its finest". you can't automatically blame parenting and it's not fair you don't know how he was parented many, many families - of all types - deal with this shit it's arrogant and ignorant to automatically blame the parents gina |
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Post by ginacivey on Dec 24, 2017 18:32:14 GMT
PS - Track did not receive a Combat Infantry Badge on discharge, being interpreted as not having seen combat. Military peas feel free to comment if that's not correct. Discharge paperwork picture at link: you don't have to be in 'combat' to suffer from PTSD being in the theater is enough - believe me i'm not sure why this link was necessary? to cast doubt on whether he has a claim to PTSD we don't do that to other people that make the claim why him? because he's troubled? or related to sarah palin? either way - it's a bunch of bullshit I don't know what his service in Iraq was, or his mental health before joining the army, but direct combat is not necessary for PTSD. Mortuary affairs, casualty assistance, drone pilots, military sexual trauma, convoy operators, medical personnel, survivor guilt, the people sitting across from the Gen shot in the head eating in the chow hall... being in the area is more than enough every day you wake up - you face your own mortality gina |
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Post by ginacivey on Dec 24, 2017 18:36:16 GMT
I think some regard is needed *shrugs* you can't help your child if you make excuses for their behavior. this is true - but lots of time the excuses are to cover embarrassment - deep down inside they are mortified and ashamed - but you are right - enabling does not work but it's a parents first instinct - the heart and brain don't always match up I would bet Track spent 1 yr in the military playing GI Joe (which isnt logical punishment for a kid who already likes guns btw) instead of experiencing natural consequences in his hometown. Mom pulled a couple strings to get him in and now wants everyone to believe he is a war hero and Obama is to blame for his violent tendencies he had a minimum of a four year obligation - minimum of 2 years active duty - with the other 2 either active or inactive reserve ETA - looking at his DD214 he did 2 years 4 months active duty even if he did serve to avoid legal trouble - and that doesn't happen as much as people think - the military doesn't want screw ups anymore - it doesn't diminish what he did do while on active duty he also received two ARCOMs - doesn't sound like he was a trouble maker in the army - or he wouldn't have received these awards he recieved promotions and left as an E4 which is about right and he left with an honorable discharge gina |
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My first thought when I heard about this was "white trash at its finest".