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Post by grammadee on Jan 6, 2018 1:04:25 GMT
JBS has started winter reveals on their blog today. I love the colours in 2 cool for schoolWhat do you think?
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Post by meridon on Jan 6, 2018 1:09:15 GMT
Boys will be boys!? Oh, hell no!!!!!! I'm gonna not only skip this one but boycott them over that. That's so tone deaf in the wake of the #metoo movement.
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Chinagirl828
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Post by Chinagirl828 on Jan 6, 2018 1:12:14 GMT
Another line that will be saving me money. Do we think there'll be a matching 2 cool for school girls line or is it only boys who are too cool?
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Post by beachsm16 on Jan 6, 2018 1:22:27 GMT
I love this line, mostly because of the colors!!!
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Post by MerryMom on Jan 6, 2018 1:24:32 GMT
Boys will be boys!? Oh, hell no!!!!!! I'm gonna not only skip this one but boycott them over that. That's so tone deaf in the wake of the #metoo movement. Why do you immediately think of a sexual tone? When I read the phrase, I think of boys playing in mud, rough housing, etc.
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Post by meridon on Jan 6, 2018 1:26:24 GMT
Boys will be boys!? Oh, hell no!!!!!! I'm gonna not only skip this one but boycott them over that. That's so tone deaf in the wake of the #metoo movement. Why do you immediately think of a sexual tone? When I read the phrase, I think of boys playing in mud, rough housing, etc. because that "oh, it's just locker room talk, it's just boys being boys" is why rape culture persists, that's why. Anyone who things otherwise is in denial.
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Post by luckylady on Jan 6, 2018 1:28:07 GMT
I love the colors and most of the wording, but I wish that they had left off the "boys rule" and "boys will be boys" because these set would be so "rad" to use for my converse wearing, game playing girl. And I'm afraid if they do one for girls it will be all pink glam that is nice but doesn't fit with the many sides of my teenager.
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Post by PaperAngel on Jan 6, 2018 2:15:20 GMT
While I appreciate a collection for tweens/teens, I don't particularly like the color scheme (specifically the abundance of yellow, my least favorite color), stereotypical sayings (eg. "boys rule" & "boys will be boys" is included in every boy-specific), & motifs (eg same sneaker & baseball style cap in different colors).
Perhaps this thread explains the reason so few masculine lines exist. I wish scrappers would also advocate for the blatantly feminine collections (that comprise ~99% of the market) to be usable for boys/unisex!
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Post by jameynz on Jan 6, 2018 2:21:59 GMT
I like the paper with the caps on....that's all...
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Post by chendra on Jan 6, 2018 3:21:42 GMT
Well, it's got a corgi in it, so I will be needing some of these pieces!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 4:45:39 GMT
A perfectly lovely (to me) collection ruined by the bs "boys will be boys" saying. Why did they have to dictate who that set of images is geared toward. Why can't they just have boy AND girl sayings or none at all?!?!? How about 'kid/kids'? UGH
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Post by MerryMom on Jan 6, 2018 5:29:12 GMT
Why do you immediately think of a sexual tone? When I read the phrase, I think of boys playing in mud, rough housing, etc. because that "oh, it's just locker room talk, it's just boys being boys" is why rape culture persists, that's why. Anyone who things otherwise is in denial. I’ve been a social worker and investigator in child abuse/neglect for 25 years, so don’t presume to lecture me about being in denial. I’ve seen more tragedy and evil than you can possibly fathom.
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Post by 950nancy on Jan 6, 2018 5:39:38 GMT
I love this line, mostly because of the colors!!! Me too. And the boys will be boys line could be used on a 100 different pictures I have of my boys being sporty, or dorky, or destructive, or using sticks as guns etc. We have so very many sugar and spice sayings that boys sayings are welcomed. I love the colors. No pink! But most importantly, there are corgis.
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Post by dasmith2 on Jan 6, 2018 11:57:33 GMT
Love the colors but dont see why they couldn't just leave the sayings off so it can be used for girls too. Why the companies haven't caught on to this yet is beyond me.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jan 6, 2018 12:07:16 GMT
I like parts of this.
But please tell me, why does this need to be a boy line? They could have very easily made this a kid/teen line. No gender phrases needed.
I would like a lot of this for my dd who wears those colors (hasn't worn pink since she was 2).
She plays video games (lives & breathes them!)
Is into science and mechanical building - those gears, tho!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 13:48:38 GMT
I like parts of this. But please tell me, why does this need to be a boy line? They could have very easily made this a kid/teen line. No gender phrases needed. I would like a lot of this for my dd who wears those colors (hasn't worn pink since she was 2). She plays video games (lives & breathes them!) Is into science and mechanical building - those gears, tho! Exactly!!! I love this line, but I will not support it because I am just giving them positive reinforcement to continue w/their idiotic gender norming. I am not going to support that. They should leave genders OFF of the papers OR include both and let the kid's personality dictate who each collection works for NOT their gender.
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Post by mikklynn on Jan 6, 2018 14:16:03 GMT
I like parts of this. But please tell me, why does this need to be a boy line? They could have very easily made this a kid/teen line. No gender phrases needed. I would like a lot of this for my dd who wears those colors (hasn't worn pink since she was 2). She plays video games (lives & breathes them!) Is into science and mechanical building - those gears, tho! That was my first reaction, too. I swear, if they come out with a girl line full of unicorns, I'll boycott this line, even though I love it!
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Post by crystalb on Jan 6, 2018 15:21:01 GMT
I will be using this line for BOTH my BOY AND GIRL! GEARS! BMX WOOHHOO! I will just be leaving the parts I don't like/agree with out and/or trashing them no skin off my nose.
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Post by jtmom on Jan 6, 2018 18:21:02 GMT
Yuck! I scrap all boy and wouldn't buy any of this line, it does not appeal to me at all.
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Post by anniefb on Jan 6, 2018 20:55:53 GMT
I like parts of this. But please tell me, why does this need to be a boy line? They could have very easily made this a kid/teen line. No gender phrases needed. I would like a lot of this for my dd who wears those colors (hasn't worn pink since she was 2). She plays video games (lives & breathes them!) Is into science and mechanical building - those gears, tho! Exactly.
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Post by anniefb on Jan 6, 2018 20:56:17 GMT
Yet more money saved.
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Post by myboysnme on Jan 6, 2018 22:34:47 GMT
I have every one of those papers from other collections over the years. Nothing new here for me.
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Post by FurryP on Jan 6, 2018 22:45:37 GMT
Why do you immediately think of a sexual tone? When I read the phrase, I think of boys playing in mud, rough housing, etc. because that "oh, it's just locker room talk, it's just boys being boys" is why rape culture persists, that's why. Anyone who things otherwise is in denial. Except this is a scrapbook line and it's about children. Soooo not related at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 23:51:37 GMT
because that "oh, it's just locker room talk, it's just boys being boys" is why rape culture persists, that's why. Anyone who things otherwise is in denial. Except this is a scrapbook line and it's about children. Soooo not related at all. I disagree. It starts in childhood, and for too many men, it never stops.
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Post by tsabhira on Jan 7, 2018 1:14:34 GMT
because that "oh, it's just locker room talk, it's just boys being boys" is why rape culture persists, that's why. Anyone who things otherwise is in denial. Except this is a scrapbook line and it's about children. Soooo not related at all. Sure it is. Giving a pass to certain antagonistic behaviors from one gender (the sort of things people say "boys will be boys" over) is taught to us as children and perpetuated into adulthood, and now we're being sold products stamped with that wrong-headed idea to put into our children's scrapbooks. Not a good look. Maybe not worth a boycott, but I wish the scrapbook companies were paying more attention. And heck, even if it weren't sexist, "boys will be boys" is also dated and hackneyed to boot. Creativity, please!
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Post by 950nancy on Jan 7, 2018 5:08:13 GMT
Why do you immediately think of a sexual tone? When I read the phrase, I think of boys playing in mud, rough housing, etc. because that "oh, it's just locker room talk, it's just boys being boys" is why rape culture persists, that's why. Anyone who things otherwise is in denial. No, that is men being men. Not in denial. Boys, little boys, will be boys. This paper is for little boys.
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Post by Kath on Jan 7, 2018 6:00:36 GMT
Boys rule—over what? Girls?
Boys will be boys?
Hell, no!
Let me just echo the above poster.
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Post by jennoconnell on Jan 7, 2018 19:04:19 GMT
I like this better than the new Echo Park, but I agree, it could have easily been left gender neutral. I would love to see that Converse paper in tons of other colors or in a rainbow version. Converse are super popular with teens of all genders where I live. I like a lot of the B sides and I love, love, love that Corgi.
I'm not at the point where I feel I need to boycott this company over their lack of forward thinking, but I am going to consider writing to the company to express my thoughts about some of the sayings included in the line. Maybe they will listen...
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Post by miominmio on Jan 7, 2018 21:56:33 GMT
I like the colours. I will probably try to find some of the papers and embellishments since we know a very sweet corgi that my daughter loves. But the "boys will be boys" sentiments rubs my feminist self the wrong way.
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Post by 950nancy on Jan 8, 2018 2:17:34 GMT
I'd be fine if it was gender neutral, but if you scrap boys, it is often really hard to find paper lines for boys (or even just not feminine). It seems like 75% of the lines have flowers, girlie pinks, cutest saying that equally match boys will be boys (like princess) and other things that scream little girl. I don't begrudge a line for boys at all.
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