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Post by cindyupnorth on Jan 15, 2018 16:10:53 GMT
This wkend we moved our dd to her new "on her own" apt. after graduating from college a semester early. So her apt is in MN, and heat included is important. The heat is included in her rent. Everything is included but electricity and cable. So her heat is electric baseboard? how does that work? how is that separated from the electric? There is a knob on the baseboard that controls the heat, does that also control it not being put on the electricity bill? we were just curious and wondering how that worked.
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Post by sueg on Jan 15, 2018 16:13:39 GMT
Just as each apartment will have its own electricity meter, there is probably a separate meter for the electricity that supplies the building's heating.
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Post by CeeScraps on Jan 15, 2018 16:17:08 GMT
I haven't a clue, but my experience with baseboard heat and being single isn't good.
I was a new teacher teaching. So, I was gone from 7-4. Then I'd quick come home and drop my stuff and go to my second job until 9:15-9:30 p.m. Consequently my apartment was cold in the winter and that was ok. Well, after getting a couple of $100+ electric bills (heat was included) months in a row I started to look for another apartment. I couldn't afford the electric. I was already working 2 jobs and $100 for electric was just too much.
My next apartment had gas heat. My electric bill dropped like a stone and I loved it.
All of this was back in the early 80's. Maybe things have changed. But I'll tell you I will never again live with baseboard heat.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 15, 2018 16:33:39 GMT
Does your local electric company provide historic bills for a property? Some have stopped doing it for privacy reasons, but some still do, particularly once you've moved in and set up an account. If possible, I would want to see the actual monthly variance to be sure the electric bill doesn't include the baseboard heaters.
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Jan 15, 2018 16:36:46 GMT
I think you're going to need to ask that particular landlord what they mean by "heat included" and how it's set up so that she's not billed for it.
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Post by Dani-Mani on Jan 15, 2018 16:38:45 GMT
I would’ve asked the question when I viewed the apartment. I’m also surprised the building had electric heat. When I rented in Iowa, nearly everything was gas (and I came to prefer it that way). It must be a much older building?
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jan 15, 2018 16:53:34 GMT
I was a new teacher teaching. So, I was gone from 7-4. Then I'd quick come home and drop my stuff and go to my second job until 9:15-9:30 p.m. Consequently my apartment was cold in the winter and that was ok. Well, after getting a couple of $100+ electric bills (heat was included) months in a row I started to look for another apartment. I couldn't afford the electric. I was already working 2 jobs and $100 for electric was just too much. So I'm not understanding how if heat was included your bill was so high? yea, I'm not a fan of baseboard too, but I would say 90% of the apts she looked at have it.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jan 15, 2018 16:54:36 GMT
I think you're going to need to ask that particular landlord what they mean by "heat included" and how it's set up so that she's not billed for it. Yep, she is going to do that. I'll let you guys know what they say. I was just curious in the meantime.
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Post by honeyb on Jan 15, 2018 16:55:26 GMT
My first apartment had electric baseboards. It was extremely expensive. It was a 750 square ft apartment and we were gone all day, so only heating nights and weekends. First month bill was $175. This was in the early 90s. I'm not sure how the apartment would include it when it's so expensive to use?
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jan 15, 2018 16:56:31 GMT
I would’ve asked the question when I viewed the apartment. I’m also surprised the building had electric heat. When I rented in Iowa, nearly everything was gas (and I came to prefer it that way). It must be a much older building? She didn't have a lot of choices for apts at the time. She was just happy she found something safe, reasonably priced, and near her new job. Actually about 90% of the apts she looked at had electric. The older buildings were the ones that had the gas, boiler, etc heat.
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Post by susancinpa on Jan 15, 2018 17:09:02 GMT
She's definitely going to need to see what the landlord says. Is it possible that the baseboard is a secondary heat source and she will be responsible for it on her electric bill?
We used to have electric baseboard in our house and 7+ years ago we had geothermal installed (radiant & forced air). We still have the baseboard as a backup in case we would need it if something happens to the geothermal units.
Electric baseboard heat is so expensive.
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Post by CeeScraps on Jan 15, 2018 17:30:59 GMT
I was a new teacher teaching. So, I was gone from 7-4. Then I'd quick come home and drop my stuff and go to my second job until 9:15-9:30 p.m. Consequently my apartment was cold in the winter and that was ok. Well, after getting a couple of $100+ electric bills (heat was included) months in a row I started to look for another apartment. I couldn't afford the electric. I was already working 2 jobs and $100 for electric was just too much. So I'm not understanding how if heat was included your bill was so high? yea, I'm not a fan of baseboard too, but I would say 90% of the apts she looked at have it. I really haven't a clue. I just know that I couldn't live with a bill that high and I wasn't home causing it. Sorry.......
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jan 15, 2018 17:34:09 GMT
She's definitely going to need to see what the landlord says. Is it possible that the baseboard is a secondary heat source and she will be responsible for it on her electric bill? We used to have electric baseboard in our house and 7+ years ago we had geothermal installed (radiant & forced air). We still have the baseboard as a backup in case we would need it if something happens to the geothermal units. Electric baseboard heat is so expensive. No, there isn't any other source of heat in the apt.
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Post by compeateropeator on Jan 15, 2018 18:20:29 GMT
Unless it as Sueg said and all of the baseboard heaters are on their own meter, I am not sure how that is possible. Finding apts with heat included are very very rare in my area so I am no expert. If heat is included it typically is because of quirky building issue (usually homes made into apts). Good luck to you daughter with her new apt and job! How exciting for her. Hopefully all the weird things you have to put up with sometime when renting will be funny stories for her later in life. Most of us have had some.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jan 15, 2018 19:02:00 GMT
New Info-DD emailed the apt manager. The baseboard is STEAM heat. hence the knob I was talking about. It sure doesn't feel like steam heat. So I guess we will have to believe them! But glad that's figured out now.
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Post by darkangel090260 on Jan 15, 2018 19:38:08 GMT
can you get her to send a photo of them
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Post by genny on Jan 15, 2018 19:42:35 GMT
Ok…I have never even heard of baseboard heat!
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jan 15, 2018 20:11:24 GMT
can you get her to send a photo of them ? photo of what?
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Post by cbet on Jan 15, 2018 20:35:50 GMT
New Info-DD emailed the apt manager. The baseboard is STEAM heat. hence the knob I was talking about. It sure doesn't feel like steam heat. So I guess we will have to believe them! But glad that's figured out now. That sounds like what my in-laws have in their home - the baseboards look identical to electric baseboards, but they actually have hot water/steam going thru them from a boiler in the basement.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jan 15, 2018 20:39:07 GMT
Yep, Cbet, that's it!!
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Post by anxiousmom on Jan 15, 2018 20:50:42 GMT
Ok…I have never even heard of baseboard heat! Me either!! The couple of times a year I need the heat, I push the little switch from a/c to heat and then the heat comes out of the same vent the a/c comes out of.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 21:08:34 GMT
I despise baseboard heat and Just be thankful they aren't electric baseboard. Imagine a house full of plug in electric heaters with exposed coils that you can't unplug. We rented a house with them and that was the cleanest and clutter free I have ever kept a house.
Your daughter might want to pick up an oil filled plug in heater or one of those Vermont ( type) heaters, just in case the heat gets turned off before it is really warm out.
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Post by hop2 on Jan 15, 2018 21:14:12 GMT
Yes you can have hot water or steam baseboards. They should be fine.
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Post by Jamie on Jan 15, 2018 21:30:14 GMT
I would guess it is heated by a boiler. That is what the 2 apts we lived in were. The last one we had to have our heat set at a certain temp because it also controlled the entryway door and would ccause it to freeze if we didn't (ours was the only one for that) It didn't have anything to do with what we paid for electric.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jan 15, 2018 21:36:49 GMT
Your daughter might want to pick up an oil filled plug in heater or one of those Vermont ( type) heaters, just in case the heat gets turned off before it is really warm out. It's MN. I doubt that would happen.They would know the weather can change at the drop of a hat. ha. I am also thinking they use the steam heat for the pool area also, and it can be used on demand all year around.
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Post by darkangel090260 on Jan 15, 2018 22:07:58 GMT
can you get her to send a photo of them ? photo of what? the heaters. the steam looks a bit different from the others.
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Post by jlynnbarth on Jan 15, 2018 22:09:58 GMT
She will probably love that form of heat! We had it in our last home and we miss it. The baseboards are ugly as sin, but the heat is probably the most efficient form. She doesn't have to worry about anything getting too hot that is next to it. It's just hot water running through pipes that are covered and it's radiant so even when the furnace that heats the water turns off, the water in the pipes stays warm for quite awhile.
I was from Ca. and had never seen such a thing. We had gas wall heaters or gas forced air. I was super skeptical of it but learned to love it. It doesn't dry out your skin like gas forced can.
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Post by pridemom on Jan 15, 2018 22:13:57 GMT
I grew up with hot water baseboard heat. It’s amazing and much more even than forced air heat. And included in the rent is the best for a young person.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jan 15, 2018 22:18:03 GMT
It looks exactly like an electric baseboard. That is why we were so confused. But it makes sense now, when I was holding my hand over the heat opening, it wasn't like hot, hot or smelly, like electric, but more of a gentle heat? does that sound about right?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 22:22:10 GMT
It looks exactly like an electric baseboard. That is why we were so confused. But it makes sense now, when I was holding my hand over the heat opening, it wasn't like hot, hot or smelly, like electric, but more of a gentle heat? does that sound about right? That sounds right for steam heat.
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