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Post by cmpeter on Feb 7, 2018 20:39:19 GMT
If you otherwise like your job, then I would find a way to participate, but still keep your privacy. Instead of a photo, do an avatar, instead of a photo of your family do a stick figure drawing and take a picture of that, etc.
I work for a company with a lot of virtual employees. We do these types of activities periodically and they are generally good for team building and morale. I've also found that they seem to come in waves...so it might be the hot thing right now at your place of work, but after awhile I bet it dies down.
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Post by gillyp on Feb 7, 2018 21:04:28 GMT
Can I just say, how do you know your colleagues are being totally upfront with whatever they post? Their virtual photos and details may be just that, a virtual reality.
I’m not advocating lying online, particularly in a work environment, but I do like the idea of ‘playing along for fun’ as per some of the suggestions posted.
A while ago I would have felt exactly as you do so I do understand your reticence. I hope you find your boss receptive to your feelings.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 22:42:37 GMT
I wouldn't like to feel my privacy was invaded either. I would feel exactly as you describe.
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Post by quiltz on Feb 7, 2018 23:32:22 GMT
scrappinspidey2 You are under no obligation to provide anything more than the one picture that is floating on the internet. You have been thru hell in your lifetime. I have been in a similar hell. Invasion of privacy is horrific and if being forcibly asked to reveal private issues, is a trigger for PTSD. Simply say No. Many hugs  to you.
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Post by 950nancy on Feb 7, 2018 23:54:41 GMT
I guess my question is...what are you going to do if this does become mandatory? Are you prepared to quit? It is quite common and well within an employers' rights to punish names and photos of employees on their website. It is reasonable to expect people who work from home to communicate via video or FaceTime or Skype or lots of other methods that transmit a picture. You aren't anonymous. If you had to physically go to an office everyday, your coworkers would see your face. How is your employer wanting your coworkers to see your face any different? If you went to an office every day, everyone would have pictures of their families on their desks. How is this any different? I agree with the personal things you must do, but I don't think anyone can or should request information about your family. I don't have personal photos on my desk a work, but I only go in once a week. I know I am not the only one. |
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Post by 950nancy on Feb 7, 2018 23:55:22 GMT
I'd give them pictures of my dogs. They are family.
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Post by hop2 on Feb 8, 2018 0:14:53 GMT
That sucks
However, if your forced into it, could you do something creative that shows ‘you’ but doesn’t?
I know an art student who did a selfless self portrait video. Everything about her except actually her.
And as for preferences I’d just keep filling in ‘privacy’ to answer any preference questions - because that’s what you prefer!
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Post by scrappinspidey2 on Feb 8, 2018 0:19:47 GMT
If you had to physically go to an office everyday, your coworkers would see your face. How is your employer wanting your coworkers to see your face any different? It isn't a digital form available for everyone to see. My coworkers would see me at work in the place I am required to be. Digital copies sent through unsecured email and uploaded to the servers is very different than seeing me in person. They have my employee Photo. If they want to use that, that is fine. That is their property and can use as they see fit. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2018 0:31:51 GMT
I agree with the personal things you must do, but I don't think anyone can or should request information about your family. I don't have personal photos on my desk a work, but I only go in once a week. I know I am not the only one. I work full time and do not have any pictures of my family at work. The only thing I have to grab on my way out the door is a coffee cup. |
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Post by hop2 on Feb 8, 2018 0:39:30 GMT
Or we can send you pictures as your family 😁
Because we are your pea ‘family’
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2018 0:46:24 GMT
I'd be a little put off if it was being pushed too. My kids don't like me to post photos of their kids on the internet--so I don't. simple as that! ((HUGS)) to you!! Don't do things you don't feel comfortable with doing!!
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Post by AussieMeg on Feb 8, 2018 0:52:37 GMT
I already answered but reading some other answers I think that any effort on your part to actually participate means that you are on some level willing to participate. I would not answer questions if I don't want to encourage more questions. I agree with this. A lot of people here have suggested just sharing one photo, or sharing a fake photo, or taking photos of things you like etc etc. If you do that, it shows you are willing to participate to some extent, when in reality you are not willing. If you give them a little they are going to keep asking for more. I can't see any reason why sharing photos of your family should be required in your work environment. (I tend to be an over-sharer  and I would not have a problem with anything they are asking of you, but I 100% support you in not wanting to do it.) |
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Post by kate on Feb 8, 2018 1:04:41 GMT
Or find passive ways to do it without giving any relevant information away. Like a video of ABOUT yourself and your thoughts on working for the company does not have to show YOU. Shoot some video of your city or nearby scenery and voice over with what a great company it is... you don't have to show yourself or give away your real thoughts. I had similar thoughts. You could submit a picture of you taken from such a long distance that you would not be recognizable, and you could say, "I enjoy quiet time," if it's a photo of you in the woods or something. Disclaimer: I am highly non-confrontational, so I would be looking for a way to nod to the request without putting myself in an uncomfortable position. I hate icebreaker games, too, and one of my employers looooooves them. The irony is that I am a highly social creature, but I still hate those games. I'd rather do my own icebreaking!  |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Feb 8, 2018 1:28:13 GMT
If you are healthcare, I am preeeeettty sure somewhere in your contract is something that lists their pillars, or values, and commitment. Ie ours is Values: Courage, Passion, Resolve, Advancement, Family. plus other very vague things. This could be grounds to fire you. Of course you didn't sign on for this. But jobs evolve and change with the times. Again, something that is very normal in health care. If you are so set against this, you will have to look forward to what other kind of job you can get, if this is a hill you are going to die on.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Feb 8, 2018 1:38:29 GMT
you SHOULD have a line between work and private life but the truth is, employers want to know more about their employees than what is in the job application. who has a family? who is very involved in social media? who is involved in the community? who is a loner? who seems too private? who doesn't like to participate in the reindeer games? why?that's my question! but not quite the way you meant it-- more like, Why?!? Why do they need to know those things? Maybe you 'need' to develop some sort of a more personal relationship with your direct supervisor, but 'the company' does NOT need to know these things in order for you to do your job effectively. I would say NO- and mention the whole 'I thought this was voluntary' thing, along with 'I don't like my personal information on the internet.' ETA: at the VERY least, shouldn't they be asking you to sign a photo release form, if they reserve the right to post it out in public domain, as opposed to the company intranet? I get the fact that they might want to see 'someone' on Skype, remote chat, whatever- but it doesn't have to be your photo, does it? My ID is a pic of our dogs; the IT manager's ID pic on Skype is an animated cartoon character. Other people have the logo for their favorite football team-- why does it HAVE to be personal photos and information? If they're doing it for 'company day' to get video footage of people who love working there, and they're going to use it for 'marketing' the company on the internet, then they sure as heck SHOULD get volunteers AND a photo release form, in my opinion. Our facility gives tours to customers, and they take tons of photos on their way through. The company (finally) distributed photo release forms, so it's clear you're AGREEING to the photos possibly being published. (I didn't sign it; it wasn't a requirement, that I was told.) |
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Post by mikklynn on Feb 8, 2018 13:23:20 GMT
scrappinspidey2 I hope you had a good discussion with your supervisor yesterday.
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Post by myboysnme on Feb 8, 2018 14:48:16 GMT
If you are healthcare, I am preeeeettty sure somewhere in your contract is something that lists their pillars, or values, and commitment. Ie ours is Values: Courage, Passion, Resolve, Advancement, Family. plus other very vague things. This could be grounds to fire you This would be a hill I was willing to die on. My family did not sign on to my work and they may not want their pictures floating around. I currently have an EEO filed against me by a person I never met, who never worked in the same place as me, who got my name and photo off the internet while searching for whoever she was searching for. Privacy is something to be protected and every employee who lets others be forced to disclose personal information especially about others like family members is violating a whole bunch of so called values listed above. I think someone would have a really good wrongful termination suit if they were fired for failure to share personal information and family photos. I have worked in health care for 30 years and currently work in a hospital. A triage nurse has lots of job opportunities. If they want a family photo more than the skills of a triage nurse then let them find someone else. |
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Post by scrappinspidey2 on Feb 8, 2018 15:07:13 GMT
If you are healthcare, I am preeeeettty sure somewhere in your contract is something that lists their pillars, or values, and commitment. Ie ours is Values: Courage, Passion, Resolve, Advancement, Family. plus other very vague things. This could be grounds to fire you. Of course you didn't sign on for this. But jobs evolve and change with the times. Again, something that is very normal in health care. If you are so set against this, you will have to look forward to what other kind of job you can get, if this is a hill you are going to die on. I wanted to address this first. Ive worked in healthcare a long time both as a nurse and in other roles and this is the first time I have encountered this particular issue. All the other places I worked participation in things like this was voluntary and if you didn't want to participate that was the end of the discussion. So I don't believe this is the norm at all in healthcare or at least it hasn't been the norm in my experience. That said, I emailed my boss and answered the question about which pillar of whatever value set we are focusing on this round was. But I stated that I did not have a photo to share and that I wasn't comfortable doing so. I heard nothing back from him other than yet another email to the entire group that he needed responses, which tells me other people aren't playing along either. Then later during our shift there was an actual discussion about it in one of our chats. It wasn't the main group, more of a "private" splinter chat. We do know anything we do on our computers is monitored and recorded so private is relative. There were more than a few who were uncomfortable with the latest requests for videos and photos. Several stated they wouldn't be participating in that part of the request. We will see what happens. I am not worried that this will affect my position at the company. Yearly reviews have been completed recently and there is no need to be worried about my job at this point It has been interesting to see the various responses and I do appreciate them |
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Post by Nanner on Feb 8, 2018 15:35:44 GMT
I would just tell them that I'm a very private person and have always had a hard and fast rule not to share photos and personal information about my family members.
I agree with Volt that you could always make a video about yourself and the job, without including personal information or photos. You could use some video of say... your work space at home (with nothing identifying in it), showing files, pens, computer, etc. Draw a stick figure of yourself and use it in place of your own picture... If you need to include your own picture in it, use a silhouette, or a mask, or a super close up with just say... one eye, or your forehead or your hands on the keyboard.... Talk in generalities and fill a lot of spaces with your favourite type of music. Keep it geared around work, and not home or family.
Or if you want to be more personal but not personal.... use video of the beach or the mountains - a kind of place that you love, without it being the specific place. Or dogs, cats, or horses, etc. - a type of animal that you spend a lot of time with.
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to you.
and I would not have a problem with anything they are asking of you, but I 100% support you in not wanting to do it.)
