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Post by myshelly on Feb 11, 2018 22:18:21 GMT
General Question - How do you handle going to events with other families when there is a different approach to spending on kids between the two families?
Specific Situation - today my kids and I went to a Harry Potter fan event with a friend and her kids. We paid $15/adult and $12/kid to attend. The major feature of the event was the salesfloor. We knew beforehand that the salesfloor would be the major feature. My kids saved up, asked grandparents for money, and got money from me for the event. They went around gleefully purchasing sweets from Honeydukes, picking out broomsticks, adopting owls, and drinking butterbeer. The other mom, however, didn't want to buy her kids anything. Her kids were upset. On the one hand, I felt bad for her kids. On the other hand, I wasn't going to tell my kids they couldn't do the very thing we went to the event to do. Also, the event started at 11 and there was nothing to do except shop until the other activities started at 1.
It is NOT a matter of they didn't have any money, couldn't afford it, etc. It is a difference in philosophy about spending on kids.
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Post by freecharlie on Feb 11, 2018 22:24:59 GMT
If the parent is There, I'd roll my eyes and let my kids do what we wanted. If we took the kid and the parent didn't give them money, we would give the kid some money to spend.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 11, 2018 22:30:01 GMT
If the parent is There, I'd roll my eyes and let my kids do what we wanted. If we took the kid and the parent didn't give them money, we would give the kid some money to spend. Yup...How can you go to an event and not enjoy it fully?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 22:30:28 GMT
General Question - How do you handle going to events with other families when there is a different approach to spending on kids between the two families?
Specific Situation - today my kids and I went to a Harry Potter fan event with a friend and her kids. We paid $15/adult and $12/kid to attend. The major feature of the event was the salesfloor. We knew beforehand that the salesfloor would be the major feature. My kids saved up, asked grandparents for money, and got money from me for the event. They went around gleefully purchasing sweets from Honeydukes, picking out broomsticks, adopting owls, and drinking butterbeer. The other mom, however, didn't want to buy her kids anything. Her kids were upset. On the one hand, I felt bad for her kids. On the other hand, I wasn't going to tell my kids they couldn't do the very thing we went to the event to do. Also, the event started at 11 and there was nothing to do except shop until the other activities started at 1. It is NOT a matter of they didn't have any money, couldn't afford it, etc. It is a difference in philosophy about spending on kids. I spent what I planned on my kids and let the other parent do the same. If she didn't want to let her kids spend anything then she/they can deal with the feelings that brings.
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Post by pmm on Feb 11, 2018 22:31:05 GMT
I would not feel bad. Your kids planned and saved their money. You went to enjoy the event. If her family values is to not indulge in that type of spending, then she should have had a talk with her kids about expectations.
When my kids were young, my husband kept us pretty poor. If the kids and I went to the movie that is all that I could afford. My kids knew not to ask for popcorn, candy, or soda. I was fortunate that they understood that I wasn't paying for extras, but they didn't know it wasn't because I couldn't afford it. It was our family dynamic. Over time we were able to get the popcorn and a drink to share three ways and they were good with that too.
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Post by dawnnikol on Feb 11, 2018 22:31:58 GMT
I just focus on my own kids. If we can swing it, we will snag something for all the kids and their cousins if it's something special.
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Post by Belle on Feb 11, 2018 22:34:44 GMT
I would do what you did. Who knows, maybe the other kids saved up their money for an event that happened last weekend or will happen next week. Not your problem.
Similar to the neighbor that might have a boat but doesn't go on European vacations every year but the other neighbor goes to Europe and doesn't have a boat.
Everybody is free to spend money on what their OWN priorities are and even better, if they have saved up the money before spending it!
I say good job Mom for teaching the kids how to save for something they really wanted.
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Post by 950nancy on Feb 11, 2018 22:43:58 GMT
There were times we didn't spend extra and there were times we spent quite a bit. I just depended on the situation. I might have said, "You know that you have saved X amount of dollars, so check everything out first." That way the other kids know the deal. Growing up, my best friend, an oops baby, got everything she asked for. I knew it and didn't hold a grudge. It was her life (and I would not have traded places with her). The kid across the street from us has divorced parents and he saw his dad once a year. Dad sent him gaming consoles, computers, etc. for birthdays and other holidays. My kids knew the deal and talked about it now and then, but they never complained. Their dad coached their sports, attended school functions, and spent oodles of time with them. I am sure the other mom in the OP's story does things for her kids at different times. I think is is especially important for kids to know life isn't fair or even or whatever.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 11, 2018 22:44:16 GMT
General Question - How do you handle going to events with other families when there is a different approach to spending on kids between the two families? Specific Situation - today my kids and I went to a Harry Potter fan event with a friend and her kids. We paid $15/adult and $12/kid to attend. The major feature of the event was the salesfloor. We knew beforehand that the salesfloor would be the major feature. My kids saved up, asked grandparents for money, and got money from me for the event. They went around gleefully purchasing sweets from Honeydukes, picking out broomsticks, adopting owls, and drinking butterbeer. The other mom, however, didn't want to buy her kids anything. Her kids were upset. On the one hand, I felt bad for her kids. On the other hand, I wasn't going to tell my kids they couldn't do the very thing we went to the event to do. Also, the event started at 11 and there was nothing to do except shop until the other activities started at 1. It is NOT a matter of they didn't have any money, couldn't afford it, etc. It is a difference in philosophy about spending on kids. For the most part, I really don't really care how other people decide to spend money on their kids. Sometimes though the difference is so extreme it makes attending events with them difficult - particularly at young ages when the kids just don't understand. We've been on both sides of this. My daughter had a friend in early elementary school who invited her on a trip to the zoo. I honestly never knew there were so many ways to spend money at the zoo. It was insane. I think at one point they adopted an animal - but that might just be the fish tale after all these years. At the end of the day it's like any other parenting choice that makes a family more or less conducive to joint outings. This might be an awesome friend for any number of things, but perhaps not this type of event. We have wonderful friends who I love dearly, but know that we can never ever travel with as their travel style is so different from ours that it's just not fun.
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Post by busy on Feb 11, 2018 22:46:44 GMT
Honestly? Maybe it makes me a bad person, but I really try to avoid things like that with other families unless I’m familiar with how they handle spending with their kids.
It’s one thing if one family lets their kids spend a little more or a little less. But when it’s WAY different, it’s uncomfortable and awkward and I’d rather not deal.
In your situation, I’d proceed as planned but I might rein my kids in *a bit* and maybe make another pass through the shopping later when the other family wasn’t around (unless you drove there together).
That sucks - I’m sorry. ,
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Post by johnnysmom on Feb 11, 2018 22:48:27 GMT
We don't go out a lot with friends with kids but when we do I try to bring it up in advance. Like when the neighbor and I took her 2 + my 1 kid to the zoo; I said something in the car about how I had reminded ds that we're going to the zoo to the see the animals not to buy a ton of stuff in the gift shop. She said she usually allows her kids to buy something small when they leave, we don't usually do that but it was ds' birthday and I did allow him to buy something small (it's not that we couldn't afford more, its simply that I don't want to set a precedent is all).
Basically I like to know ahead of time, but I wouldn't feel guilty if I chose to spend money and they chose not to, hopefully the kids knew the expectations in advance.
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Post by myshelly on Feb 11, 2018 22:51:31 GMT
Honestly? Maybe it makes me a bad person, but I really try to avoid things like that with other families unless I’m familiar with how they handle spending with their kids. It’s one thing if one family lets their kids spend a little more or a little less. But when it’s WAY different, it’s uncomfortable and awkward and I’d rather not deal. In your situation, I’d proceed as planned but I might rein my kids in *a bit* and maybe make another pass through the shopping later when the other family wasn’t around (unless you drove there together). That sucks - I’m sorry. , We drove together. Made it super awkward to get back into the car with all the purchases.
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Post by busy on Feb 11, 2018 23:09:00 GMT
Honestly? Maybe it makes me a bad person, but I really try to avoid things like that with other families unless I’m familiar with how they handle spending with their kids. It’s one thing if one family lets their kids spend a little more or a little less. But when it’s WAY different, it’s uncomfortable and awkward and I’d rather not deal. In your situation, I’d proceed as planned but I might rein my kids in *a bit* and maybe make another pass through the shopping later when the other family wasn’t around (unless you drove there together). That sucks - I’m sorry. , We drove together. Made it super awkward to get back into the car with all the purchases. Ugh. What a nightmare.
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Post by imsirius on Feb 11, 2018 23:11:35 GMT
Who takes their kids to a special event knowing there will be souvenirs or shopping and doesn't plan for spending? I mean, don't spend a fortune but buy them a reminder of the day?
I always make sure if I am taking mine to a special event, or a theme park, that I have money set aside for extras. My kids will also save up their money for special things.
I would be hella uncomfortable but her kids, her choices. I'd still let my kids buy what they have money for.
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Post by AnotherPea on Feb 11, 2018 23:11:44 GMT
It causes me to reassess who we spend time with as a family. When I was a SAHM I occasionally babysat friends' kids on teacher workdays. For free because I could. I had one friend who had an only child. The kid had competing grandparents that helped out a lot with everything financially so my friends had lots of disposable income even though they had modest jobs. Dh and I were close to flat broke.
One day when I took my child and their kid to a Chuck E Cheese type place, friend decides to show up for her lunch break. I had explained to the kids that we were limited to a certain amount of money for tokens and needed to either watch the shows or play in the climbing structure. The kids were fine with that. I think I spent $5 on tokens, which doubled because of a coupon I had. The children were rationing out their tokens and a great time pretending to play on some of the machines. Then the mother showed up. She was put out that her daughter only got 20 tokens and that they always give her at least $15 worth when they take her. So she marches up and gets HER daughter $10 more. Of course her kid goes crazy, dropping tokens into machines and walking away before the game is even finished.
It was the last time I was available for free daycare and we really limited going anywhere where money could be an issue.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 11, 2018 23:19:33 GMT
Is this the first time you have done something like this with this friend?
If I knew that there was a likelihood that there would be a big difference in how much we Were spending at an event, I would probably bring it up ahead of time. “We have saved for this and the kids are looking forward to getting a lot of treats at the event”. Or “I was thinking that each child would have $$ to spend. What are your thoughts?”
In your situation I probably would have encouraged your kids to save some of the money for a different time, especially since it seems that a lot of it was spent on snacks. Not that they couldn’t buy anything, but maybe tone it down. And next time talk about it with the friend ahead of time.
ETA that I personally would value being at the event with friends more than buying lots of stuff and I think my response reflected that. Hopefully she would also compromise on what she was planning to spend, but it may not be possible for everyone to do that. Even if it seems that a family should be able to spend more on an event, that may not be the reality.
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Post by Really Red on Feb 12, 2018 1:12:07 GMT
Speaking as the parent who rarely let their kids get that stuff, it wouldn't bother me a bit. It would not have bothered my kids either. We talk about things and discuss them and KNOW that every family is different. It just is NOT a big deal how families spend their money. We know what we can afford (and they always had a little money) and where we want to spend our money.
Granted, the kind of event you described would be odd for us to attend and not buy, but I honestly would never think one thing about stuff like that.
I hope you're overthinking.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 12, 2018 5:22:59 GMT
I’d be the mom who would only buy lunch and let the kid choose one souvenir not because we couldn’t afford to buy more but because in the long run it’s just more plastic stuff my kid won’t play with that I’ll have to pick up and eventually figure out how to dispose of. For us it would be more about attending the event with a friend which to her would be the bigger deal.
My kid knows this going in and is used to that, so we wouldn’t really have an issue even if we attended with another family that dropped a bundle on that kind of stuff. If she had her own money to spend and wanted to spend it, that would be another story. That also would have been something we would have discussed prior to attending the event in an effort to give her some opportunities to earn some extra spending money beforehand. Even when we went to Disneyworld she only got to pick one thing to bring home other than the crazy expensive dress DH bought for her at the boutique.
ETA: After reading some of the updates, it sounds like this is the kind of event you pay to get in and then have to pay at the booths inside to do the individual activities and attractions. In that case I probably would set a budget to allow my kid to do a few of the things on my dime but I could see where one could rack up a lot of expense pretty quickly especially if you had multiple kids along. So for that reason alone I probably would hesitate to attend something like that because it wouldn’t be fun unless you dropped a lot of cash. I’m admittedly pretty thrifty though and would rather spend a bigger chunk of money on something more tangible that my kid/family would get a longer benefit from, but that’s just me.
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Post by bc2ca on Feb 12, 2018 5:59:57 GMT
Ugh, sounds like a cloud hung over the day for you. Did you know their spending philosophy before agreeing to go with them? I wouldn't be going to events with someone I knew wasn't going to have the same approach to spending money as me. If they want to attend something with you in the future I'd be really honest and say it was too uncomfortable to deal with her disappointed kids.
For us and an event like this, I was usually willing to buy one thing for them (or give them a budget) and my kids had to use their own money for anything else. I wouldn't want to attend with someone buying everything their kid saw & wanted and I wouldn't want to attend with a child looking wistfully at everything and getting nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 6:00:03 GMT
We rarely bought trinkets on vacation. I would let them get t shirts hats and postcards.
I would not have let them buy much except the butter beer.
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Post by lucyg on Feb 12, 2018 7:02:01 GMT
I want to go to a Harry Potter fan event!
I agree with those who would avoid (in future) attending an event with someone whose intentions would be so vastly different from my own.
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Post by anniebygaslight on Feb 12, 2018 7:13:02 GMT
I agree with those who would avoid (in future) attending an event with someone whose intentions would be so vastly different from my own. 
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Post by fkawitchypea on Feb 12, 2018 9:35:30 GMT
For us and an event like this, I was usually willing to buy one thing for them (or give them a budget) and my kids had to use their own money for anything else. I wouldn't want to attend with someone buying everything their kid saw & wanted and I wouldn't want to attend with a child looking wistfully at everything and getting nothing. This. I stopped vacationing with my best friend when the kids were little for this very reason. I don't believe in spending a ton of money on crap souvenirs. DS would get to pick one thing or a couple of small things up to a certain budget and that was it. Every time we would go somewhere the kid's grandmother would give him hundreds of dollars to spend. We would spend the entire time shopping for crap and ds would spend the whole time begging or crying about how mean I was for not letting him buy as much.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 11:20:46 GMT
Well I think it sucks for her kids and yours, and she should have considered this in advance. She put her family and yours in an uncomfortable spot and, unfortunately, her kids suffered for her bad judgment. I see other issues with this mom in the future and would avoid group excursions.
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Post by paigepea on Feb 12, 2018 12:54:52 GMT
I’m also the parent who would talk to my kids ahead of time to remind them they’d be getting no souvenir or 1 souvenir. When we went to universal for the HP part I’d read on line about the draw of souvenirs and spoke to my kids ahead of time. I offered them one souvenir each within reason because omg some of that stuff was pricey. What is up with a kids event that starts with two hours to only buy stuff. I haven’t heard of the HP fan event. Is it a travelling thing?
If I went with someone I’d probably talk about it openly ahead of time. I’ve done numerous activities with friends - amusement parks, plays, etc - and us parents generally discuss it ahead of time. Sometimes we differ in what we want to buy and I explain to my kids ahead or sometimes we make a parent agreement to buy one thing or nothing.
All you can do is be happy with your decision. Maybe these kids got a lot elsewhere recently or maybe the parents are looking for their kids to get something different out of the event. I wouldn’t think twice. Just do what you want. If this woman is your friend than she doesn’t care what you choose to do for your kids. And I wouldn’t feel bad for her kids.
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Post by hop2 on Feb 12, 2018 13:08:24 GMT
My kids got x$ and that was it if they wanted to spend more that was in them. I don’t care what other people do that’s thiervperogstice.
ALTHOUGH I have reimbursed my kids for buying lunch for a friend whose parents refused to send them with proper food or money for day long band events. And yes I judged a lot I’m my head but I kept my mouth shut. F’n drove me nuts for 4 years. You can not send your kids out from 6am until midnight with 1 pb sandwich and 1 soda it just doesn’t work. Your a lousy parent if you do that. Which meal is that sandwich for, breakfast, lunch or dinner?? Grrrr sure the band provides dinner but there’s 2 other meals ass hat.
But other than feeding I fed children I just set a limit and that was that.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Feb 12, 2018 13:47:26 GMT
What is up with a kids event that starts with two hours to only buy stuff. In defense of myshelly , I would bet the purchases were more about the *experience* than a "crap souvenir" as some of you on higher horses have pointed out. We did two of the Harry Potter book launching experiences back in the day. All those activities -- the sorting hat, wand selection, the lightning tattoo, etc -- were part of the fun. If you left those out, you missed a lot. This whole thread reminds me of those FB posts at Christmastime about not having Santa give your child more than just a few modest gifts with the more expensive ones coming from the parents personally. The point is that children who get less for Christmas due to family circumstances will not feel Santa loved them any less. And... I'm not sure how I feel about that. Lol. I can argue that one both ways actually.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Feb 12, 2018 13:58:08 GMT
I'm kind of dealing with this right now with a mother who not only doesn't want her child to get a treat bag at a Valentine's rehearsal but doesn't want anyone else's kid to have one either because she feels that it marginalizes her child.
My response to your situation is, you parent your kids. If she chooses to raise her children differently, it's up to her to deal with any fallout that may come from that.
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Post by myshelly on Feb 12, 2018 13:58:34 GMT
Thanks, Spongemom, yes, the purchase were all more about experiences.
You could adopt an owl from the owlery, buy a broom and play quidditch, buy chocolate frogs from the sweets trolly, buy a potions kit and take a class with Snape.
For those asking if I knew about her spending beforehand, sort of. I knew that her philosophy is she doesn't like spending on her kids. It is not about teaching them or saving money. Heck, while we were sitting down ordering butterbeer, she was buying clothes for herself on her phone. I had hoped/expected this event to be different because the event posted numerous pictures of the vendors on Facebook and my friend and I talked about them (for example, we specifically saw the brooms and talked about how cool they were and that we wanted the kids to play quidditch, but then we got there and I bought them and she didn't).
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Post by myshelly on Feb 12, 2018 14:00:24 GMT
I’m also the parent who would talk to my kids ahead of time to remind them they’d be getting no souvenir or 1 souvenir. When we went to universal for the HP part I’d read on line about the draw of souvenirs and spoke to my kids ahead of time. I offered them one souvenir each within reason because omg some of that stuff was pricey. What is up with a kids event that starts with two hours to only buy stuff. I haven’t heard of the HP fan event. Is it a travelling thing? If I went with someone I’d probably talk about it openly ahead of time. I’ve done numerous activities with friends - amusement parks, plays, etc - and us parents generally discuss it ahead of time. Sometimes we differ in what we want to buy and I explain to my kids ahead or sometimes we make a parent agreement to buy one thing or nothing. All you can do is be happy with your decision. Maybe these kids got a lot elsewhere recently or maybe the parents are looking for their kids to get something different out of the event. I wouldn’t think twice. Just do what you want. If this woman is your friend than she doesn’t care what you choose to do for your kids. And I wouldn’t feel bad for her kids. It wasn't a kid's event. It was a HP event. Most conventions and fan event revolve heavily around the salesfloor. It's not an unusual situation or set up.
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