NRA at CPAC!

"Many in the media love mass shootings," Dana Loesch tells the crowd at CPAC. "Crying white mothers are ratings gold."

www.thedailybeast.com/nras-dana-loesch-media-love-ratings-gold-from-mass-shootings

Here is her video on youtube


www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=50&v=Nj03yEwF0HA

And another article

www.rawstory.com/2018/02/nra-spokesperson-dana-loesch-needed-guns-cnn-town-hall-kill-her/

She also asked where “the voice of the Junior ROTC members” was at the CNN special Wednesday,


Well at least 3 of them are dead, so they couldn't be there could they?

In all fairness, both sides are pushing the us vs. them thing to an extreme right now. My Facebook feed is full of memes where people vilify the other side and call them hypocrites. The republicans are concerned about saving babies but not about saving school children. The democrats are fine with killing babies, but are concerned about saving school children. I saw memes with both of these themes yesterday.

I'm to the point where I am so sick of the way both sides are acting that I am dismissing almost everything I see as one-sided, and I think they have all lost their minds. There is no such thing as a friendly debate anymore. The other side is evil and has no good points, no matter which side you are on.

Sorry but I'm pissed. Feel free to sit this one out and leave it to those of us who are prepared to fight. 17 people were murdered in their school last week. If there was ever an appropriate time to pick a side, this is it. And I'm super comfortable on the side I'm sitting on, and I'm pumped about all the people sitting next to me.

A fact that CNN adamantly disputes.

amp.local10.com/news/parkland-school-shooting/cnn-refutes-parkland-school-shooting-survivors-scripted-question-claim


“There is absolutely no truth to this,” the network said in part via a statement released on Twitter. “CNN did not provide or script questions for anyone in last night’s town hall, nor have we ever.”


“After seeing an interview with Colton Haab, we invited him to participate in our town hall along with other students and administrators from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School,” the statement from CNN explained. “Colton’s father withdrew his name from participation before the forum began, which we regretted but respected. We welcome Colton to join us on CNN today to discuss his views on school safety.”


ew.com/tv/2018/02/22/cnn-gun-control-town-hall-scripted-question/

I don't believe that meaningful change can occur without meaningful discourse.  And I believe the us vs. them mentality is preventing the discourse.  You can sit firmly on your own side and surround yourself with people just like you and you can all convince each other that you as a group are absolutely right, but that doesn't change anything. It may even put you in a position where you THINK everyone else thinks the same way you do, because everyone around you does.   But the other side that you aren't talking to votes, too, and they are all sitting on their side thinking that everyone else thinks just like they do. If you turn off the moderates - the ones who think both sides of the aisle have some good points and would like to discuss the options and pick the best from both sides - I think you are creating a no-win situation because the county is pretty evenly split.

I'm with you Darcy. I'm not paying attention to memes. I'm not sure I've seen any actually.

You know what Rubio said last night that had been needling in the back of my mind for years but had never formed a complete thought for me? With regard to background checks, what about HIPPA? What has to happen in the medical profession to allow gun sellers to see what they need to see before making a sale? It's a huge part of the picture and one I had contemplated, but not on that scale.

Age limits...yes. If you can't buy a beer, you don't get a damn gun.

A little off the subject but something that also hit me in the head yesterday that I just hadn't given thought to...we have 16 year olds working and paying taxes, but they can't vote. That needs to be addressed.

I also feel that something has to be done about money in politics. The millions and millions of dollars spent by the NRA...it's just wrong. It's GOT to change. I don't want to make it seem that Rubio made a ton of sense to me last night because I still think he is spineless. But he may have been smart to point out that the NRA buys in to HIS agenda and not the other way around. Which in my opinion gives us more incentive to pay more attention to how each and every candidate in every level of our government feels about guns.

Ya know, the other thing I find frustrating about the discussion on a large scale is my lack of knowledge about guns. And I'm not sure to what extent I want to go to learn. I don't like guns...but I don't HATE them either. I wasn't raised in a gun family.

The first time my ex-DH took me to a gun range to shoot (a handgun), a guy next to us was shooting an AR and it was so loud and scary, my eyes were filling with tears, my safety goggles fogged up and we left.

So we went to a piece of land owned by some friends and shot there. That was fine. I'm a decent shot. It wasn't terrifying.

But last night when they were talking about the prospect banning of ALL assault rifles, I realized that there are a shit-ton of guns and gun types and maybe I'm not informed enough to say that every single AR should be banned. I'm a little resentful that I likely really do need to educate myself more in order to be a more valued participant in the discussion. Blergh.

Thank you for that information and the link, Darcy.

Something like banning "assault rifles" is difficult because it all gets down to definitions.  I'd rather stick w/number and easier things to define like:

1. No more than 6 or 8 capacity magazines
2. No auto-loading of chambers - require some kind of manual effort to unload/reload next round from the magazine
3. Buy only from state stores (like many states used to do and some still do for alcohol)
4. Make a maximum purchase per period on ammunition - maybe different maximums based on how a gun is registered, how the user is trained, etc.

I'm sure there are no perfect answers, but there are better answers than "thoughts and prayers and on to the next".

She's disgusting.

I don't think that is a big issue, there are many kids who 'work', some from infancy, models, actors......... I worked and paid taxes before I was 14. I was selling cards etc from 6 yrs old, but not sure there were any tax consequences, it was the 'dark ages'
Raised Catholic, time with LDS, pro-birth, pro guns before NRA could be. It is a point, but they are so very hard line, little flexibility, give nothing.

I don't like or own guns of any kind. I will defend reasonable gun ownership for those who are qualified through background checks.. I see no reason for anyone to have AR-15/any semi-automatic gun or automatic guns.

I'm comfortable too.. that might be fine for you but A LOT of us ARE Frustrated and ANGRY! NO one is listening! I've read so much the last few days I feel like exploding.. it does go both ways! nasty and dispicable was the town hall last night. That didn't accomplish a damn thing except shout down people.

ETA -I also agree that Rubio is spineless but he wasn't even able to explain the laws and why things are harder..