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Post by cannmom on Mar 10, 2018 10:54:05 GMT
Who else is over the whole process? I'm tired of it all and just want to come to a final decision. We have another college visit next week with an interview for a spot in a leadership program. I'm hoping if he gets into this program that the deccision will be made. The only problem with this particular school is it is expensive - with a capital E. Our hope is to pay completely with no student loans and with this school we can do it but it will be tight. Dh and I are trying to weigh what we think the benefits of this school are vs. others. Hard to know at times if the benefit is really there. Anyone else have any experience with this type of situation?
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Post by Really Red on Mar 10, 2018 11:13:57 GMT
OMG. ME! I am totally over it. We don't find out all his schools for another few weeks and he just got wait listed to his safety school! I am floored. I read the College Confidential and the school usually accepts people with way lower stats than my son's, but this year they had 15K apply for 1.2K slots. They could be way pickier than usual. I want it over with!
ETA: Here's what I ask when I want to decide if it's worth it: How many students get work in their career after college? You want above an 85%. My one DD is at 94% and her school makes that clear.
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Post by judy on Mar 10, 2018 12:25:16 GMT
I’m right there with you about being ready for it to be over! We’re at admitted student day at Illinois and he’s learning all about his department today. Should be exciting right?
Problem is, he still is not ready to commit here because he’s still not received his award letter from one last school.
While I’m proud of him for being financially aware enough to compare the costs, the difference will be minimal and I just want him to go with his heart. He is having a great time at this weekend’s event and it is such a good fit for him.
Hopefully, our kiddos will figure this out soon!
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Post by ellen on Mar 10, 2018 12:46:07 GMT
My daughter applied to schools with rolling admissions and knew pretty early on that she had been accepted to all the schools she applied to. Money was a factor for us as well and we had the same goal as you. She had one college that was her favorite and she really wanted to just say that she was going there, but we had to wait and see about the merit award they offered. She went there for an interview in January and had to wait until the end of February. It was a high fives kind of day when we knew for sure it was a go. She could have gone to a couple of cheaper schools, but they did not have good five year grad rates. The school she attends has a four year guarantee if you hold your end of the deal. That extra semester or year is ridiculously expensive and we felt it was worth it to send her where she is.
She also was accepted at a school that was capital E expensive. It was an amazing school and they gave her a really good merit award, but over four years it would cost about $55K more to attend it than where she currently is. She loved the school, but it would have required her to take out loans in addition to having to pay part of her tuition during the school year. She is a nursing student and knew she'd have good job opportunities no matter where she went to school. We talked to her about what her life would be like after college if she had no debt. She crossed the Expensive school off her list and felt good about that decision.
It's so much to think about to the point you start to wonder if you are overthinking it. My daughter is a junior and her school was the perfect choice for her. She mainly applied to private schools with a couple public schools. In the private school cost comparisons, with her merit award her school became the cheapest one to attend. She was recently accepted into the Navy Nurse Candidate program which means she already has a job lined up when she finishes school. She took advantage of every opportunity her school offered so that her resume experiences would stand out. She got into something that is difficult to get into. In the end, it is still the individual applying for a job. Your school matters, but it doesn't have to be the most expensive one.
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Post by Merge on Mar 10, 2018 13:41:58 GMT
Good gravy, my DD is a junior and I'm already over it. It's impossible to convince this child that it's a bad choice to take out loans to attend a super expensive school your parents can't afford, when you're majoring in something that is not likely to net a large salary. She also refuses so far to consider the notion of a safety school.
We're going to have to sit down and look long and hard at her application list this summer. What scares me is that she is just stubborn enough to take out giant loans for a school we can't afford, and once she's 18, we won't be able to stop her. She can't think ahead to the part where she is struggling to pay them off. Her dad and I lived that reality for more than 10 years and would really like to avoid it for her. We can afford to pay for a good state school, and our state schools have the program she wants. We can't afford to send her to her current top two choices, which are far away, very selective and very expensive.
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Post by brina on Mar 10, 2018 13:42:36 GMT
My one son applied to two schools. Both were 'match' schools- got into his first choice, got a merit scholarship and he's done. His twin had a bunch of 'reach' schools, one safety and a coupe of 'match' schools. One reach deferred him into regular admission (from EA), his safety accepted him and one school that was on the border between match and reach turned him down - apparently they had an increase of 6K applications this year. So we are waiting on 5 schools - 3 he should get into, 2 are questionable (the one that deferred him and one other reach). He is of course my one who does not do well with uncertainty, and of course the fact that his twin already knows where he is going only makes it worse.
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Post by nepean on Mar 10, 2018 13:47:40 GMT
OMG. ME! I am totally over it. We don't find out all his schools for another few weeks and he just got wait listed to his safety school! I am floored. I read the College Confidential and the school usually accepts people with way lower stats than my son's, but this year they had 15K apply for 1.2K slots. They could be way pickier than usual. I want it over with! ETA: Here's what I ask when I want to decide if it's worth it: How many students get work in their career after college? You want above an 85%. My one DD is at 94% and her school makes that clear.THIS! I couldn't agree more! ME! My DD is a high school Junior and I am already over it. We have visited several elite colleges, private colleges and several "safe" colleges. I feel like the whole process is hype and emotionally driven, rather than responsibility driven. The important things to me are: 1. Will she come out of her undergrad employable? (she does want/need to do her masters, but, in order to get into the program she wants she need 2 years working in the field) 2. Bottom line for us financially is that it needs to be viable regardless of prestige. Because lets face it most employers couldn't care less where you went to school, especially for an undergrad. We want to help her out as much as possible because we would prefer she not incur student loan debt. BUT, that means she must choose responsibly. 3. At this point in time she is qualifying for the Zell Miller scholarship which will pay all her tuition at an in state, state school, or some at an in state private school. That along with other scholarships she will be applying for will determine where she can go. Early decision and all that makes my head hurt. Yes, you are accepted into our elite school, you MUST attend through early decision, BUT you will have no idea what your final costs will be yet. They may not offer any financial aide, and you are stuck there paying enormous costs. Maybe I am not understanding the process, because my head hurts, just thinking about that.
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Post by nepean on Mar 10, 2018 13:48:54 GMT
Good gravy, my DD is a junior and I'm already over it. It's impossible to convince this child that it's a bad choice to take out loans to attend a super expensive school your parents can't afford, when you're majoring in something that is not likely to net a large salary. She also refuses so far to consider the notion of a safety school. We're going to have to sit down and look long and hard at her application list this summer. What scares me is that she is just stubborn enough to take out giant loans for a school we can't afford, and once she's 18, we won't be able to stop her. She can't think ahead to the part where she is struggling to pay them off. Her dad and I lived that reality for more than 10 years and would really like to avoid it for her. We can afford to pay for a good state school, and our state schools have the program she wants. We can't afford to send her to her current top two choices, which are far away, very selective and very expensive. We are right there with you!
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Post by ellen on Mar 10, 2018 14:46:50 GMT
Good gravy, my DD is a junior and I'm already over it. It's impossible to convince this child that it's a bad choice to take out loans to attend a super expensive school your parents can't afford, when you're majoring in something that is not likely to net a large salary. She also refuses so far to consider the notion of a safety school. We're going to have to sit down and look long and hard at her application list this summer. What scares me is that she is just stubborn enough to take out giant loans for a school we can't afford, and once she's 18, we won't be able to stop her. She can't think ahead to the part where she is struggling to pay them off. Her dad and I lived that reality for more than 10 years and would really like to avoid it for her. We can afford to pay for a good state school, and our state schools have the program she wants. We can't afford to send her to her current top two choices, which are far away, very selective and very expensive. I found this website to be helpful in figuring out where my daughter would be likely to get in and if she was in a strong position to get a merit award at schools she applied to. Does your daughter fit the academic profile of the students who are accepted at those selective, expensive schools? Maybe sharing this site with her will help her to see that she needs to have a few safety schools on her list. College SimplySaveSaveSaveSave
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Post by freecharlie on Mar 10, 2018 14:50:41 GMT
I'm about to embark on this journey. Unfortunately ds has made it pretty easy in that his grades suck because of lack of effort. So he will be going to a cc or trade school around here.
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Post by Sarah*H on Mar 10, 2018 15:00:07 GMT
I’m with Merge in that my kid is a junior and I’m already over it. We had a small taste of it waiting for his summer program decisions and I thought both he and I were headed for a breakdown before the first yes came in. 🤪
We’ve got a massive spreadsheet going for next year and I’ve had more than one sleepless night worrying about his choices, the logistics, the cost of just the application and audition process, etc. This time next year I will be a blubbering ball of incoherence and nerves.
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Post by fredfreddy44 on Mar 10, 2018 15:46:22 GMT
I'm tired of waiting. Nov 15 (when we finished the applications) seems like a lifetime ago. Calvin has gotten a yes from one college that probably said yes to everyone. We are still waiting for 4 other answers.
I just went and read the statistics on the applications for Cal Poly and UC Santa Cruz. Over 50000 applications for maybe 4500 freshman slots. I'm not holding my breath for those. I do wish Cal Poly had a part on their application that said: "check here if you have 3 close family members who got 4 degrees at Cal Poly." =-)
The money isn't a problem fortunately.
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Post by quiltedbrain on Mar 10, 2018 15:58:38 GMT
I feel for you that are just starting on this journey, cause I am so ready for it to be over. DD applied to 9 schools--she's been accepted to 3 schools so far and deferred to regular decision from ED by her top choice. So we are now not so patiently waiting for the end of March when she will have answers from everyone. It's the not being able to make a decision yet for something so big that starts 5 months from now that is killing her. Even one of the 3 that's accepted her has not given the final determination on merit awards yet. Most of her friends applied to in-state schools and already know where they are going, which doesn't help her anxiety about the whole issue. I'm holding on to the idea that looking back it will feel like this time passed by quickly and that she is our only child, so I won't have to go through it again. 
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2018 16:05:01 GMT
I was in your shoes a year ago. My daughter just would not make up her mind. It was driving me bonkers. She wanted to visit as many colleges as possible, regardless if she actually intended on going (she was accepted to a lot of schools). She just dropped out in January. I’m still pretty salty about the colossal waste of resources.
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Post by mcscrapper on Mar 10, 2018 16:16:19 GMT
I'm so over it, we are actually done with it. DD did not want to go to either of the big state schools in Alabama because all the kids from her HS and the neighboring HS all go to one of these two schools. They are also HUGE schools. I can't really blame her. The problem is, if she doesn't want to go there where does she want to go? He boyfriend is going to a state school just 3.5 hours from here. It is much smaller and they like to give Alabama kids a good bit of money to go there. While I don't love the idea of her going to school with the boyfriend, I do like the campus and think it would be a good fit for her.
So far, she has gotten enough scholarship money that waives out of state tuition and she can potentially get more with a few other s'ships she has applied for recently. We showed her all the numbers and we will actually owe about $500 after our college fund and s'ships are used. I can live with that. I know there will be other expenses but I feel good about where we are.
It took a while for her to commit and I still don't think she is 100% sold on the idea but she has not other back up plan or options at this point. Back in December she was still waffling even after going to two different visits and several football games in which she met her new roommate. I told her she had to make a final decision by January 1st or she would be living at home and going to community college here for a year. There is also university here but I really think she would be so much better off going AWAY to college.
I feel good about this school but every now and then I hear doubt in her conversation. I think this is all pretty normal. She said the other day, "I don't even know if I want to go. I don't LOVE it there and I feel like I'll just want to transfer home anyway after a year so why bother." I think she does have some anxiety and that plays a factor but DAM. I just want her to get her mind right and accept the fact that she made this decision and needs to go and meet new people and spread her wings a little bit.
It is all so frustrating even when they appear to have made the decision.
Can't wait to have to pick out dorm decor and all that crap. ::eye roll::
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2018 16:59:00 GMT
mcscrapper look forward to phone calls in the fall! Mine was so wishy washy and then the daily calls of “I can’t DO this mom!!!” Ugh. I love that kid but she really made it rough. I just wanted to tell her to shut up and study.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2018 17:12:10 GMT
Been through this three times and will have to go through it again next year. Depending on your state, the choices can be limited based on your major. DS got accepted to one college with honors, but not for his major. They said he would have to pick another major as I guess the one he applied for was suddenly impacted. He was accepted to a fantastic out of state college, but they offered no aid and he'd have to pay out of state tuition. We told him we'd pay for in state tuition and he'd have to take out loans for the difference which would have amounted to over $100K. Kid chose to stay in state.
Make sure before accepting that your child is being accepted for his/her major, to take into account whether aid is for the duration of the 4-5 years, and whether aid covers housing.
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Post by pilcas on Mar 10, 2018 17:15:07 GMT
Sometimes I think colleges have created this mystique of seeking and finding the perfect college that you love. I know people who have travelled all over the country visiting colleges. Personally I think that there are other more important things to consider like will you need a plane to get home during breaks. Can you reasonably afford it? Is it a reasonable commute if you are not going away? Do they have the program you are interested in? I just event through the process with my DD last year, with my son this year. The private college that was the most conveniently located-since she never showed any interest in learning to drive-gave her a good amount of money so that it was affordable. The other private colleges were a bit hard to get to by public transportation although about half an hour by car. Private and dorming was a no go for me money wise, specially since they were fairly close? Ultimately she chose a medium sized state college because she wanted to go away and she is very happy there. My son is waiting on 3 more schools before he makes his decision. He wants to go away but not far so he will probably choose a state University. He is also interested in a city school in Manhattan that has a very good engineering program but they have limited dormíng and the commute from the suburbs will be al least an hour and a half each way. My kids only visited a couple of colleges and after that they felt they were basically the same. My son just applied based on their programs and practically had to be pushed into visiting the ones we did. And we visited after they accepted him. They both understood that there was so much money that we could reasonably afford and that it would be foolish to get out with a huge amount of debt.
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Post by 950nancy on Mar 10, 2018 17:19:06 GMT
Thankful that my son was very limited in his choices. One was in town and the other two hours away. He was going into engineering, so his school choices were a bit more limited. He visited both campuses and chose within a month. He is quite practical.
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Post by walkerdill on Mar 10, 2018 17:36:34 GMT
I'm so over it too!
My dd got into Flagler College in St. Augustine with a very generous scholarship package. It almost covers her full tuition. She would live in a scholarship housing...off campus.
She also got into USF with an unknown at this point scholarship package. But she could commute saving money on living off campus.
She got into her dream school Penn State. They are giving her $16k in scholarships/aide. But it costs $44k to attend since we are out of state. They are also giving her a job. She would go into the Summer program so it would not include housing. She would have to rent a room somewhere til next semester. I just can't swing the difference & I know she's devastated. She is just not taking no for an answer.
So yeah I'm ready to be done. I'm gonna miss that kid so dang much tho 😣
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Post by hop2 on Mar 10, 2018 17:37:06 GMT
Good gravy, my DD is a junior and I'm already over it. It's impossible to convince this child that it's a bad choice to take out loans to attend a super expensive school your parents can't afford, when you're majoring in something that is not likely to net a large salary. She also refuses so far to consider the notion of a safety school. We're going to have to sit down and look long and hard at her application list this summer. What scares me is that she is just stubborn enough to take out giant loans for a school we can't afford, and once she's 18, we won't be able to stop her. She can't think ahead to the part where she is struggling to pay them off. Her dad and I lived that reality for more than 10 years and would really like to avoid it for her. We can afford to pay for a good state school, and our state schools have the program she wants. We can't afford to send her to her current top two choices, which are far away, very selective and very expensive. This was my DD and she says that we did not explain any of it to her, but I know that Ex did explain it to her he even made this whole spreadsheet for her, it showed all known costs and then the scholarships she got at each school, how much we had for it, and then the loans she’d need for each. ( 2 schools had no loans) Thankfully she did choose the school with no loans and even better she is so happy to be there and thankful for the opportunities that came with that. Whilst she ‘blames’ us for letting her dream of big E schools she was our first - how were we to know how much merit scholarship she would get? We were newbies. I know Ex talked to her about the expenses multiple times he was very thorough with that. And really what good would it have done to have student loans to be an artist? Oh man what a stressful year that was. Here's what you’ll hear when you try to talk to her- ‘you can’t possibly understand, you don’t know what it’s like for me.’ Etc etc 🙄 What your DD ( and mine ) failed to see is that for most jobs where you get your degree will never matter as much as the crushing debt will matter. If there’s anyone that’s NOT her parent who can sit down and explain the debt to her that might work. But anything you say will be met with huge resistance because ‘you just don’t get it’ DS was so much more logical he just put all the possible loans in terms of cars that it could buy but he’d have the loan instead of the car. He turned down a ‘Ferrari school’. He turned down a Tesla’ school. He even turned down a ‘Toyota school’ because he went with the full scholarship. Is there anything like that that interests her that could put it into perspective for her?
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Post by kate on Mar 10, 2018 17:40:29 GMT
*raising hand* Sick of it!
My senior is in a great position, with acceptances and good packages from two of his top 5 schools. He was also deferred to RD (he applied EA) by another of his top 5, accepted at a wonderful state school, and rejected by a conservatory that only has 2-4 spots a year for his instrument.
Sooooo that leaves 8 schools from whom we will hear on March 28. I asked his counselor if he should just withdraw those apps, since he's going to have a hard enough time deciding between the two gems that he's got, but the counselor said he should wait. If one of the other schools (and there are some Ivies) gives him a better package, he might be better off.
He will not get into all of the schools - the school where he got deferred takes most of its kids from the ED and ED2 pools, so they probably don't have many RD spots still open. We didn't allow him to apply ED anywhere because we have to be able to compare aid packages.
I'm sick of it taking up so much space in my head.
I'm also concerned about my other kids - my oldest is an academic superstar with sterling extracurriculars and test scores. We didn't have to have any tough conversations about "being realistic" because nothing is out of his reach. My other kids are very different students - equally wonderful in their own ways, but they will have to look for "right fit" schools in a different way. I sort of wish the academic superstar had been the last child, not the first (if that makes sense).
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Post by hop2 on Mar 10, 2018 17:42:53 GMT
mcscrapper the dorm decor was actually easier with the picky child I handed her the amount of money we set aside for it and let her go. The child who didn’t really care what was gotten was actually harder to supply. Things had to be figured out I couldnt jst throw money at the problem. Lol
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Post by hop2 on Mar 10, 2018 17:46:33 GMT
kate counselor is right you never know. Both of mine ‘stumbled’ into a real inexpensive option once all the scholarships were in. There’s actually money for them to go to grad school if they so choose
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2018 19:22:52 GMT
Good gravy, my DD is a junior and I'm already over it. It's impossible to convince this child that it's a bad choice to take out loans to attend a super expensive school your parents can't afford, when you're majoring in something that is not likely to net a large salary. She also refuses so far to consider the notion of a safety school. We're going to have to sit down and look long and hard at her application list this summer. What scares me is that she is just stubborn enough to take out giant loans for a school we can't afford, and once she's 18, we won't be able to stop her. She can't think ahead to the part where she is struggling to pay them off. Her dad and I lived that reality for more than 10 years and would really like to avoid it for her. We can afford to pay for a good state school, and our state schools have the program she wants. We can't afford to send her to her current top two choices, which are far away, very selective and very expensive. Actually, you will be able to stop her because you will be required to co-sign her loans until she is 23 OR take our a Parent Loan for her. It is practically impossible for an 18 year old to get a school loan without a parent to co-sign. Yes, the government will give her a small loan (its like $5500 a year for Freshman) but it is not near enough to cover an expensive school. My dd was able to get around $15k loaned without a parent co-sign or plus loan. Wecapplued and were turned down which changed the amount she could borrow (raised it). She was still short about $6k which my husband gave her. But college freshman can borrow depending on their efc.
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Post by Merge on Mar 10, 2018 19:59:39 GMT
My dd was able to get around $15k loaned without a parent co-sign or plus loan. Wecapplued and were turned down which changed the amount she could borrow (raised it). She was still short about $6k which my husband gave her. But college freshman can borrow depending on their efc. You are correct - I had the amount wrong. My point was that even with the government loans, at some point it wont be enough to pay for a pricey school. $5500 in Perkins loans (if they qualify, we didn't) and up to $12,500 a year in Fed Direct Loans (again, amount depends on what you qualify for) won't be enough to cover most colleges with room + board for a year. At some point, either a parent either co-signs for their child, they take a parent loan out for their child, or they give them the money. That is actually a huge relief to me!
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Post by J u l e e on Mar 10, 2018 20:01:40 GMT
I read these threads with interest even while, at this moment, my high school sophomore's plans amount to working at an animal shelter for her career. Any colleges with that as a major?! =)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2018 20:56:34 GMT
My dd was able to get around $15k loaned without a parent co-sign or plus loan. Wecapplued and were turned down which changed the amount she could borrow (raised it). She was still short about $6k which my husband gave her. But college freshman can borrow depending on their efc. You are correct - I had the amount wrong. My point was that even with the government loans, at some point it wont be enough to pay for a pricey school. $5500 in Perkins loans (if they qualify, we didn't) and up to $12,500 a year in Fed Direct Loans (again, amount depends on what you qualify for) won't be enough to cover most colleges with room + board for a year. At some point, either a parent either co-signs for their child, they take a parent loan out for their child, or they give them the money. View AttachmentI see what you mean. Maybe that’s the problem with mine, she was insistent that we couldn’t have an opinion because she didn’t need our money (when really she did). Still pissed about our experience
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Post by peano on Mar 10, 2018 21:27:51 GMT
DS has heard from everyone he applied to, and so now it's down to deciding between two. I would be having a hard time if I had to wait much longer like some of you to hear.
We have accepted student visits scheduled for next month. One seems like the obvious choice--got into his preferred college, and shockingly, they awarded him a merit scholarship, but I never know with DS.
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Post by scrappinwithoutpeas on Mar 11, 2018 0:43:42 GMT
Yeah, the scrappinwithoutpeas household is waiting too. DS has heard from safety school and is accepted, but waiting to hear from 4 others. The end of March can't get here soon enough!
In the meantime, I'm driving myself nuts with second-guessing all the previous decision-making that went on throughout his application process. (Did he apply to enough schools? Did he apply to the right schools? Should I have forced him to go on more visits?...and on and on...aaarrgghh!)
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