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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2018 16:51:54 GMT
time.com/5222418/good-friday-crucifixion-philippines/"Seven Filipino Roman Catholic devotees, including a woman, were nailed to wooden crosses in a Good Friday reenactment of Jesus Christ’s suffering that was watched by thousands of spectators but frowned upon by church leaders. Three devotees wearing crowns of twigs were nailed to crosses by villagers dressed as Roman centurions on a dusty hill in San Pedro Cutud village, and four others were nailed to crosses in nearby farming villages in San Fernando city north of Manila, tourism officer Ching Pangilinan said." Cultish beliefs - where time and energy is spent on appeasing/pleasing/imploring god(s). "Maryjane Sazon, a 39-year-old beauty salon worker, said she joined the reenactments seven years ago in the hope of being cured of severe headaches and a nervous breakdown. Her act Friday was dedicated to her sick sister." Couldn't have said this part better... "“Instead of spilling your blood on the streets, why not walk into a Red Cross office and donate blood? Choose to share life. Share your blood,” Villegas said in remarks posted on a Catholic church website." Not gonna include the picture.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Mar 30, 2018 17:05:56 GMT
Good Lord.
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Post by red88 on Mar 30, 2018 17:15:01 GMT
time.com/5222418/good-friday-crucifixion-philippines/"Seven Filipino Roman Catholic devotees, including a woman, were nailed to wooden crosses in a Good Friday reenactment of Jesus Christ’s suffering that was watched by thousands of spectators but frowned upon by church leaders. Three devotees wearing crowns of twigs were nailed to crosses by villagers dressed as Roman centurions on a dusty hill in San Pedro Cutud village, and four others were nailed to crosses in nearby farming villages in San Fernando city north of Manila, tourism officer Ching Pangilinan said." Cultish beliefs - where time and energy is spent on appeasing/pleasing/imploring god(s). "Maryjane Sazon, a 39-year-old beauty salon worker, said she joined the reenactments seven years ago in the hope of being cured of severe headaches and a nervous breakdown. Her act Friday was dedicated to her sick sister." Couldn't have said this part better... " “Instead of spilling your blood on the streets, why not walk into a Red Cross office and donate blood? Choose to share life. Share your blood,” Villegas said in remarks posted on a Catholic church website."
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Post by MizIndependent on Mar 30, 2018 17:21:14 GMT
This is horrific. I don't think this honors Jesus in the slightest.
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Post by workingclassdog on Mar 30, 2018 17:34:08 GMT
OMG.. as a former Catholic that is bizarre... not what the Catholic Church supports at all I am 99.9999% sure.. that is horrific..
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Post by jenjie on Mar 30, 2018 17:43:50 GMT
This is horrific. I don't think this honors Jesus in the slightest. This. |
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Post by pierogi on Mar 30, 2018 17:46:52 GMT
I appreciate their ... uh, commitment, but this devotion would be better utilized helping others and caring for the vulnerable this Easter. That’s the whole point of it. Jesus went through this so we wouldn’t have to. I’m Catholic, and there’s a different between honoring his suffering and fetishizing it.
I feel the same way about out-of-control Passion plays.
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Post by Zee on Mar 30, 2018 18:07:29 GMT
This happens every year in many heavily Catholic places. I saw a documentary about it being done in Mexico, too. Not my thing but to me it's no more bizarre than a lot of other things people do in the name of religion.
I wonder what the Pope thinks about this.
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Post by casii on Mar 30, 2018 18:07:51 GMT
I don't think this is the only country that does this or has done this. Don't look up scourging. Really makes you wonder, doesn't it? One of our Compassion kids is in the Philipines, but not Catholic. Thank goodness I don't feel I need to warn him off this.
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Post by pierogi on Mar 30, 2018 18:52:43 GMT
I don't think this is the only country that does this or has done this. Don't look up scourging. Really makes you wonder, doesn't it? One of our Compassion kids is in the Philipines, but not Catholic. Thank goodness I don't feel I need to warn him off this. Just because he's Catholic, doesn't mean he'd be drawn to this.  This is unusual, which is why it made news there. |
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Post by annabella on Mar 30, 2018 19:02:35 GMT
I want to know the affects of this. So it apparently doesn't kill you. But putting something through your hand that's wide enough to stay in the cross must do some harm to your hand? What are the long lasting damage?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2018 19:19:34 GMT
Horrific and I'll go out on a limb and say that this is not normal for Catholics, good lord every religion and a variety of denominations have extreme believers and this story is no exception.
It's been going on for years and the Catholic Church are powerless to stop it as it's a kind of folklore belief among the poor who view the Roman liturgy as foreign.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Mar 30, 2018 19:30:32 GMT
I wondered... so I googled. (tried NOT to look at any photos) I found some academic information on the website Catholic Insight; information and research done by a PhD, MD on the effects of the scourging, crown of thorns, and crucifixion, based on historical information from common practicies at the time, and from inspection of the Shroud of Turin:
"The nails used in crucifixion were made of iron. A typical nail used in Jesus’ time measured 12.5 centimetres long (approx. 5 inches) with a square shaft that measured 9 millimetres at the head (about 4/10 of an inch) and tapered off to a 5 millimetre (2/10 of an inch) point at the tip."
The nails wouldn't have been as big as I thought; I always pictured them more like railroad spikes, or something larger than the dimensions listed in the blog post.
The blog post states that by this time Jesus would have been in traumatic shock from the previous torture (scourging, crown / cap of thorns), and that nailing his hands / feet to the cross would have caused excruciating nerve pain from the slightest movement or breeze, as nerves in the hands and feet would have been severed by the nailing process...
(and Roman-time scourging sounds just HORRIBLE in the physical damage it could inflict on the victim!)
Back to the OP: This sounds like an awful way to honor Jesus' suffering and sacrifice.
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Post by anniebygaslight on Mar 30, 2018 20:28:58 GMT
Good grief.
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Post by katieanna on Mar 30, 2018 20:31:35 GMT
This is horrific. I don't think this honors Jesus in the slightest. I agree. |
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Post by monklady123 on Mar 30, 2018 20:35:25 GMT
Clearly I've been living under my Presbyterian rock (although my dh is Catholic for pete's sake! lol) because I've never heard of it.
When I first saw the title of this thread I thought it was some sort of horrible persecution against Christians, but then I said wait the Philippines is a Catholic country!
Wow.
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Post by Zee on Mar 30, 2018 21:12:13 GMT
Catholics do like their pageantry. I love the mysticism and superstition woven into it all. I wouldn't take it this far, obviously, and I'm basically a non-believer, but Catholicism can be pretty entertaining.
I'm from a large Irish Catholic family that is definitely not into scourging or Passion plays.
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Post by workingclassdog on Mar 30, 2018 21:31:46 GMT
Catholics do like their pageantry. I love the mysticism and superstition woven into it all. I wouldn't take it this far, obviously, and I'm basically a non-believer, but Catholicism can be pretty entertaining. I'm from a large Irish Catholic family that is definitely not into scourging or Passion plays. Oh for the majority of Catholics I don't think is any form of pageantry they like, at all.  |
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Post by valincal on Mar 30, 2018 21:36:05 GMT
It’s a tourist attraction? Sickening.
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Post by Zee on Mar 30, 2018 21:45:45 GMT
Catholics do like their pageantry. I love the mysticism and superstition woven into it all. I wouldn't take it this far, obviously, and I'm basically a non-believer, but Catholicism can be pretty entertaining. I'm from a large Irish Catholic family that is definitely not into scourging or Passion plays. Oh for the majority of Catholics I don't think is any form of pageantry they like, at all. What? |
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Post by tkdmom on Mar 31, 2018 0:05:09 GMT
The most disturbing from the article is: it is believed a Japanese man was mailed to the cross in 1996 as part of a porn film. Really a porn film?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2018 13:08:28 GMT
In another example of unrestrained, unverified beliefs: A tragic instance of “faith healing” gone fatally wrong. A 52-year-old Aracely Meza killed young Benjamin Aparicio by starving him before attempting to revive him with a “resurrection ceremony. "Meza separated parents from their children, including Benjamin while he was still being breastfed. Though his mother and father lived in the same home, they weren’t allowed to hold their child. Many turned to the pastor of the evangelical nondenominational church because she claimed to be a prophet. She performed exorcisms and ordered people to fast." www.dallasnews.com/news/courts/2018/03/23/pastor-starved-toddler-death-exorcise-demon-gets-99-years-prisonI will never understand irrational beliefs. But I hope they stop hurting people w/in my lifetime. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2018 13:17:17 GMT
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Post by pierkiss on Mar 31, 2018 14:23:08 GMT
I’m catholic and I’ve never ever heard of people doing this before. I’ve seen the parades of people at Easter toting around massive crosses and cheering, but I’ve never heard of people actually being nailed to a cross to celebrate.
I want to know the physical effects of this after it’s all said and done. And do the people regret this decision afterwards? Why would someone do this in the first place? I have so many questions...
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Post by birukitty on Mar 31, 2018 15:46:11 GMT
This article makes it clear that this is a unique brand of Catholicism that blends church traditions with folk superstitions. This ritual isn't what Catholics believe and it isn't supported by the Catholic Church. The article says the rituals are frowned upon by the church leaders in the Philippines, especially if the events are used to boost tourism and business. The Archbishop mentioned in the article said it's best for Catholics to mark Lent with prayers and acts of love and charity.
I also don't think this honors Jesus at all. Being kind and loving to each other does.
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This is unusual, which is why it made news there. 
