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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 17:22:49 GMT
Now that statement that I bolded I can firmly say YES to. Why? Because of the way she treated all the "women" that came out with accusations about her husband--called them bimbos, and then she says she stands u for women, and women's rights. She is a hypocrite. Then there is whole fiasco about Benghazi. She came out with the LIE that it was caused by the video even when she knew that wasn't the reason. She's a liar. So when the liberals are all over Trump for "lying" and didn't say a word when she did, and they can support her even though she lied. She had someone use bleach bit on her computer---to hide her lies. And you ask me why I don't like her. I don't like it when Trump lies either. I think it's criminal--the same as it was when she did it as Secretary of State.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 17:23:26 GMT
now THERE is the $50,000 question!! I don't expect we'll get an answer. I gave an answer.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 17:24:34 GMT
I get the idea I'm not welcome here, so I'll go back to other threads. Have at it.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Apr 10, 2018 18:06:41 GMT
While I don't agree with your opinion, I do appreciate your answer, @donnie-- I apologize if I offended you with my snarkier-than-deserved post; you didn't really deserve it. It's just that quite a few other posters will never answer questions like this, so that was coloring my reply.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 10, 2018 18:18:59 GMT
Then why oh why do you defend him so much??? Just to get your jollies? I will I’ll never understand how you “didn't vote” for him, but you support him and the crap he pulls. It's because no matter how much of a crooked narcissist, incompetent warmonger, or self-dealing swamp-dweller Trump may turn out to be, she thinks Hillary is worse. I wish one of these people could explain how the endless Congressional investigations by powerful Republicans who hate Hillary with every fiber of their being still couldn't come up with anything to charge her with. Exactly! In over 40 investigations, not once was HRC’s homes or offices of her attorneys offices raided.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 10, 2018 18:21:00 GMT
now THERE is the $50,000 question!! I don't expect we'll get an answer. She didn’t answer my question about how she reconciled his daily lying, so I’m not expecting an answer to that either! And—let the record be clear—I was respectful and not at all mean in asking.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 10, 2018 18:24:38 GMT
Because of the way she treated all the "women" that came out with accusations about her husband--called them bimbos, and then she says she stands u for women, and women's rights. She is a hypocrite. Then there is whole fiasco about Benghazi. She came out with the LIE that it was caused by the video even when she knew that wasn't the reason. She's a liar. So when the liberals are all over Trump for "lying" and didn't say a word when she did, and they can support her even though she lied. She had someone use bleach bit on her computer---to hide her lies. And you ask me why I don't like her. I don't like it when Trump lies either. I think it's criminal--the same as it was when she did it as Secretary of State. Most, if not all of that has been debunked, and she is not a criminal (after 40 plus investigations) she has not been charged or found guilty.
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Post by Merge on Apr 10, 2018 18:24:42 GMT
Lou Dobbs Twitter poll backfires after most vote against Trump firing MuellerBY REBECCA SAVRANSKY - 04/10/18 11:42 AM EDT A majority of people who voted in a Twitter poll posted by Fox Business host Lou Dobbs on Monday night said President Trump should not fire special counsel Robert Mueller. As of Tuesday morning, about three-quarters of respondents said they didn't think Trump should fire Mueller, Attorney General Jeff Sessions and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.The other one-quarter of respondents said Trump should fire Mueller. Dobbs appeared to be aiming for a different result when he posted the poll on Monday. "Do you believe the corrupt leadership and actions of the DOJ and FBI are now so outrageous and overwhelming that President Trump should fire Special Counsel Robert Mueller, Attorney General Jeff Sessions and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein?" Dobbs wrote on Twitter. ** He posted the poll after the FBI raided the office and home of Trump's personal attorney, Michael Cohen. Dobbs harshly criticized the Department of Justice and Mueller after news of the raid broke, and said he would have fired Mueller. "This is now a man that has to be brought under control, it would seem to me," Dobbs said of Mueller. "Frankly, I can’t imagine, because each of us has to come to terms with our own heart and conscience — I would fire the SOB in three seconds if it were me.” More at link: thehill.com/homenews/media/382466-lou-dobbs-twitter-poll-backfires-after-most-vote-against-trump-firing-muellerOver 170,000 people had voted at the posting........ Fox! So there are thinkers there! Yeah, um ... several liberals on Twitter were stacking the poll. Let’s not give the Fox viewers too much credit.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 10, 2018 18:26:30 GMT
I get the idea I'm not welcome here, so I'll go back to other threads. Have at it. That is not true. Not one person has said you were not welcome. Just as conservatives have questions, flip remarks towards us, we too are truly curious as to the thoughts of why people still support him.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 10, 2018 18:40:27 GMT
Because of the way she treated all the "women" that came out with accusations about her husband--called them bimbos, and then she says she stands u for women, and women's rights. She is a hypocrite. Then there is whole fiasco about Benghazi. She came out with the LIE that it was caused by the video even when she knew that wasn't the reason. She's a liar. So when the liberals are all over Trump for "lying" and didn't say a word when she did, and they can support her even though she lied. She had someone use bleach bit on her computer---to hide her lies. And you ask me why I don't like her. I don't like it when Trump lies either. I think it's criminal--the same as it was when she did it as Secretary of State. Ok. You answered. What were the “alleged” lies she had bleach bit? If they were gone, how do you know what was there? The many investigations did not find that this was the case at all. So how is it that you know this? Benghazi—I beg of you to fact check with a reputable source and not the GOO’s political statement report. Read the timelines—they contain what actually stated. I read the entire book that came out about it, dull but fascinating—but find a reliable fact checking source and read it, you might be better informed and enlightened. What about what trump has said about the women accusing him? He called them all liars and worse, and publicly shamed them? And your statement about liberals not saying what HRC did was wrong is just not true. We did. I know it’s a favorite “rhetorical statement” often used here at liberals, but the facts are—it’s just not true. We did speak up then. It ran its course then, this is now and we are subjected to trump and more and more of his adulterous bullshit that totally gets a free pass (meaning he suffers no accountability for what he has said and done). You do know that in trumps businesses when sued, was required by a federal (IIRC) judge to provide papers to the courts and he destroyed them. (There are many articles about his defiant refusals in courts). George Bush deliberately destroyed a crap ton of documents. The DNC had their emails stolen (and no one yet has been punished for that).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 18:41:46 GMT
Because of the way she treated all the "women" that came out with accusations about her husband--called them bimbos, and then she says she stands u for women, and women's rights. She is a hypocrite. Then there is whole fiasco about Benghazi. She came out with the LIE that it was caused by the video even when she knew that wasn't the reason. She's a liar. So when the liberals are all over Trump for "lying" and didn't say a word when she did, and they can support her even though she lied. She had someone use bleach bit on her computer---to hide her lies. And you ask me why I don't like her. I don't like it when Trump lies either. I think it's criminal--the same as it was when she did it as Secretary of State. I spent time looking for her calling the women old bubba had affairs with bimbos publicity. I couldn’t find it. What I did find was a friend of hers kept detailed notes of their private conversations. When the friend died her husband thought that it would be a great idea to make notes of these private conversations public. Which he did. It was in these private conversations with her friend that she had a few choice words to say about these women. I challenge you to find any woman in the same situation that doesn’t have the same type of comments with her friend in a private conversation. If she doesn’t then these is something wrong with her. Hillary, like everyone else, is human. Her responses in private were like like any other woman would respond in the same situation. That does not take away from the facts that since her college days she has worked on issues for children and women. Now if you have some solid information that she called bubba’s women bimbos publicly I would be interested in reading it. As far as Benghazi went, did you know the US has one of the guys responsible for the attacks and he is saying it was the video. That the video was used as an excuse to attack the mission in Benghazi. According to CIA analysis the attack was litterly a spur of the moment attack. In the Senate Intelligence Committee report on Benghazi the The White House, State Department, and the CIA were dinged because the information coming out of Benghazi was not verified before it released, that the parties involved were in such a rush to release information there was confusion and unintended misinformation. I even read in the report that at one point the CIA was reading the local newspaper to get information. Gia ,at one point, dragged in a video that she claimed beyond a doubt that Hillary said the Benghazi attack was a result of the video. But if you listen to the video Hillary very clearly seperate the attack on Benghazi from the attacks on the other embassies that were as a result of the video. But I never really did understand everyone getting all excited about the video and was it or wasn’t responsible for the attack on Benghazi. To me it was nothing but a red herring. The real questions was the thinking that put a mission in Benghazi in the first place. I get the impression, when we had a functioning State Department, they have this thinking that whenever they can they want to show the people in other countries that America is your friend. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t. And when it doesn’t you have a shit show to quote President Obama. Also, why was there a seperate CIA compound in Benghazi. Did that have anything to do with locals wanting to attack? Anyway I asked and you provided two reasons why you’re not a fan of Hillary and I appreciate that. Having said that I believe you have taken two complexed issues and pulled one piece of the puzzle and tried to make it the entire puzzle when in fact it’s only one small part of a complexed puzzle that is Hillary.
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Post by hop2 on Apr 10, 2018 19:00:44 GMT
Because of the way she treated all the "women" that came out with accusations about her husband--called them bimbos, and then she says she stands u for women, and women's rights. She is a hypocrite. Then there is whole fiasco about Benghazi. She came out with the LIE that it was caused by the video even when she knew that wasn't the reason. She's a liar. So when the liberals are all over Trump for "lying" and didn't say a word when she did, and they can support her even though she lied. She had someone use bleach bit on her computer---to hide her lies. And you ask me why I don't like her. I don't like it when Trump lies either. I think it's criminal--the same as it was when she did it as Secretary of State. I called the women who fooled around with my ex names too. I mean they were knowingly fooling around with a married man. I had an out burst ( or four ) when I was hurt and i called them names right along with the names I called my spouse. I think it’s wrong to knowingly date/have sex with a married person, so yeah I’ve called her a bitch among other things. Only I was lucky enough no one heard me. It doesn’t mean I’m a hypocrite or I hate women. She might be a bitch ( and I might be a bitch too I guess ) but that doesn’t instantly make her worse than Trump. She was not president during Benghazi - your hatred is misplaced she couldn’t call airstrikes or call for retaliation that’s what the POTUS can do not the Secretary of State. And she was told what to say, The SoS get her intel FROM the president and takes her direction from the president. She is ‘beloved’ Obama's scape goat for his failure to act on Benghazi. As secretary of state she did issue warnings to all state dept staff in the Middle East, days ahead of Benghazi! I know because I knew someone who worked there at the time and they got the warning. Embassy employees across the middle east were told to stay home etc. She actually did what she could as SoS with the intelligence and what authority she had. They had some inkling something was going to happen. Maybe she did lie and she definitely was an ass about it to the families in the press, but she did not cause the issue and she did not fail in response - Obama did. Trump is a liar on a daily basis. And he has said things just as assholian about deaths of military personnel on multiple occasions. I’m not sure how Hillary is so ‘much worse’. That simply doesn’t make sense to say Hillary is worse because she is a liar when the current POTUS is and always has been a liar. For decades. About everything. He has even admitted that ‘if you say something often enough people will belive you’ in past interviews. Emails - she screwed up that’s on her if they find some legal issue she can go to jail right alongside Trump. Or at LEAST Trump jr who DOES have emails with foreign governments about the intention to do illegal things. You got get there in the emails. I still don’t think that worse than flat out telling Putin classified information in a face to face meeting making allies all over the world upset. But I guess you do. ( oh my god I’m freaking defending Hillary. Hell must be frozen over. )And I’ve never ever liked Hillary but I’ll be damned if I’ll use her to excuse what Trump is and is doing, simply makes no sense. If you hate Hillary for being a liar then you ought to hate Trump for being a liar. He lies daily, about everything, in provable ways. If you hate the way Hillary treated the Benghazi families then you ought to hate the way Trump treated the family of David Johnson. Because if liar is bad to you then it should always be bad to you no matter if there is an R or a D in thier politics. If you only hate Democrats for lying then you are acting like a hypocrite. I swear this must be some alternate universe 🙃
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Post by scrappinmama on Apr 10, 2018 19:14:18 GMT
I'll never understand why someone that doesn't live in the USA even cares, or why they get their panties in such a wad every time he tweets. So there ya go. I don't support him as a person, but he is my president, as he is of everybody that lives in the USA whether they like him or not. Probably because the things he tweets are usually false, or terrible things. His words have consequences, and cause effects. And his words do not only echo here in America. People all over the world are listening to him and being effected by what he is saying (lies and all). Other leaders are taking cues from his words and are implementing their own changes in their countries because the person holding the office of RhebPresident of the United States is doing the same things, so it must be okay. That’s why non Americans are getting their panties in a bunch over all of his tweets. Yes this. What he says and does has a direct impact on the world. They should care. I wish some Americans would care more about what he says and does.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 19:41:32 GMT
Dan Pfeiffer...
“It would be cool to see Zuckerberg questioned by people who know how Facebook works”
Which prompted these responses..
“It would be cool if people didn't share every relevant personal detail of their life with a for-profit company, allowing this to not be necessary.” Agree.
”It would be cool if people understood the basic concept that what they put on the internet isn’t private.” Agree.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 10, 2018 19:54:43 GMT
Because of the way she treated all the "women" that came out with accusations about her husband--called them bimbos, and then she says she stands u for women, and women's rights. She is a hypocrite. I am sure she called names and maybe said some inappropriate things about 'the women'... But keep in mind that was a different time. Was any of it right, no not in today's world. It has been proven that women have been abused in all sorts of ways over the years both at work and yes at home too. Children were spanked and the list could go on forever. When we know better we do better!! dt knows better and still does many things he should not. She was not president during Benghazi - your hatred is misplaced she couldn’t call airstrikes or call for retaliation that’s what the POTUS can do not the Secretary of State. And she was told what to say, The SoS get her intel FROM the president and takes her direction from the president. She is ‘beloved’ Obama's scape goat for his failure to act on Benghazi. As secretary of state she did issue warnings to all state dept staff in the Middle East, days ahead of Benghazi! I know because I knew someone who worked there at the time and they got the warning. Embassy employees across the middle east were told to stay home etc. She actually did what she could as SoS with the intelligence and what authority she had. They had some inkling something was going to happen. Maybe she did lie and she definitely was an ass about it to the families in the press, but she did not cause the issue and she did not fail in response - Obama did. Trump is a liar on a daily basis. And he has said things just as assholian about deaths of military personnel on multiple occasions. I’m not sure how Hillary is so ‘much worse’. That simply doesn’t make sense to say Hillary is worse because she is a liar when the current POTUS is and always has been a liar. For decades. About everything. He has even admitted that ‘if you say something often enough people will belive you’ in past interviews. Emails - she screwed up that’s on her if they find some legal issue she can go to jail right alongside Trump. Or at LEAST Trump jr who DOES have emails with foreign governments about the intention to do illegal things. You got get there in the emails. I still don’t think that worse than flat out telling Putin classified information in a face to face meeting making allies all over the world upset. But I guess you do. Agreed, She was NOT the president, period!!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 10, 2018 19:56:16 GMT
Dan Pfeiffer... “It would be cool to see Zuckerberg questioned by people who know how Facebook works” Which prompted these responses.. “It would be cool if people didn't share every relevant personal detail of their life with a for-profit company, allowing this to not be necessary.” Agree.
”It would be cool if people understood the basic concept that what they put on the internet isn’t private.” Agree.Most well known case, Kim Kardasian(sp), her robbery in Paris after telling the world where she was and the jewels she had with her!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 20:01:20 GMT
I have MSNBC on and they are televising the hearing with Mark Zuckerberg. The TV is on mute.
I feel somewhat sorry for old Mark. And I hope someone refills his water glass because he is drinking regularly from it. 😀
The problem with these hearing is the Senators, sometimes, are more interested in making “points” then getting at the truth and finding ways to resolve the issue/reason for the hearing.
Its clear Facebook screwed up as did other social platforms and these issues need to be addressed. I suspect they will, even without Senate hearings, because the last thing Facebook and the twitters of the world wants is mass exodus from their sites as ultimately it would put them out of business. In other words, now that this out there, they have no choice but to clean things up.
But watching these old guys and women questioning Zuckerberg about something they don’t necessarily understand is somewhat entertaining.
But what is really interesting is Mueller has interviewed Facebook employees. That man is everywhere.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 20:05:47 GMT
Sarah Sanders was asked if trump thought he had the power to fire Mueller and she answered he thinks he does have that power.
Oh goody.
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Post by artgirl1 on Apr 10, 2018 20:13:21 GMT
The problem with these hearing is the Senators, sometimes, are more interested in making “points” then getting at the truth and finding ways to resolve the issue/reason for the hearing. It's the grandstanding by these 80 year old senators who have no clue that makes me crazy. I really wasn't that impressed b Zuckerman before, but he seems to be holding his own.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Apr 10, 2018 20:20:00 GMT
Y'all, do we really want to hit the dance floor for a Hillary greatest hits mash up? Plus, my spidey sense is tingling. The hilarious thing about this (as far as that idiot Lou Dobbs goes and I hope someone pointed it out to him) is that Mueller had nothing to do with this Cohen raid. Whatever that whole business is about, it was handed off to the U.S. Attorney to deal with because it's outside Mueller's purview. But that's okay, Trump fans! Let's just fire Mueller for it anyway! I'm no lawyer, but my guess is that when a special counsel (maybe even any attorney), while gathering evidence for his own work, finds evidence of another crime, he is obligated to alert the relevant prosecutor. Maybe there's even a consequence for NOT alerting? But methinks there will be plenty of pundits, including Mr. Dobbs, who know thatbfull well but will continue the call to battle firing. I'm also amused by the way Lou framed his question. These people are so ham handed. Lead a horse to water and then sit on his head as he drinks.
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Post by suzastampin on Apr 10, 2018 20:25:20 GMT
This just came across my FB! 😂😂 😂
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 20:29:17 GMT
I get the idea I'm not welcome here, so I'll go back to other threads. Have at it. That’s not true. Having said that you can’t come on this thread or any thread and expect everyone to agree with your comments or not ask questions. I think the responses to your comments, for the most part, were benign. Whether you chose to post again on this thread is your choice but to say that you aren’t welcome is just not true.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 21:35:31 GMT
linkThe Hill... “12-year-old arrested after walking down the street with loaded AR-15 hill.cm/KvdLrsA” “A 12-year-old boy was arrested in Philadelphia on Saturday after he was reportedly seen walking the street with a loaded AR-15 rifle. Philadelphia police said 19-year-old Michael Mitchell was armed with a handgun while he was arguing with his neighbor, CBS Philly reported on Monday. During the dispute, Mitchell reportedly asked his 12-year-old brother to go grab the AR-15.” The boy was spotted walking up the street with the loaded weapon, which was legally owned by his older brother.” Responsible gun owner.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 21:56:10 GMT
MSNBC....
“Stormy Daniels is cooperating with the federal prosecutors who are investigating President Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen, sources tell @nbcnews.
Analysis on #MTPDaily:”
Oh oh...
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Post by #notLauren on Apr 10, 2018 21:59:02 GMT
Then why oh why do you defend him so much??? Just to get your jollies? I will I’ll never understand how you “didn't vote” for him, but you support him and the crap he pulls. It's because no matter how much of a crooked narcissist, incompetent warmonger, or self-dealing swamp-dweller Trump may turn out to be, she thinks Hillary is worse. I wish one of these people could explain how the endless Congressional investigations by powerful Republicans who hate Hillary with every fiber of their being still couldn't come up with anything to charge her with. Because the witnesses always end up dead.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 10, 2018 22:22:20 GMT
It's because no matter how much of a crooked narcissist, incompetent warmonger, or self-dealing swamp-dweller Trump may turn out to be, she thinks Hillary is worse. I wish one of these people could explain how the endless Congressional investigations by powerful Republicans who hate Hillary with every fiber of their being still couldn't come up with anything to charge her with. Because the witnesses always end up dead. Another flat out lie, per your usual.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 22:27:23 GMT
Because the witnesses always end up dead. Another flat out lie, per your usual. What you should do is ask her nicely just exactly what witnesses are dead.
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Post by lucyg on Apr 10, 2018 22:28:11 GMT
It's because no matter how much of a crooked narcissist, incompetent warmonger, or self-dealing swamp-dweller Trump may turn out to be, she thinks Hillary is worse. I wish one of these people could explain how the endless Congressional investigations by powerful Republicans who hate Hillary with every fiber of their being still couldn't come up with anything to charge her with. Because the witnesses always end up dead. Seriously. What the hell is wrong with you?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 22:30:03 GMT
It's because no matter how much of a crooked narcissist, incompetent warmonger, or self-dealing swamp-dweller Trump may turn out to be, she thinks Hillary is worse. I wish one of these people could explain how the endless Congressional investigations by powerful Republicans who hate Hillary with every fiber of their being still couldn't come up with anything to charge her with. Because the witnesses always end up dead. Please elaborate. Just exactly who are you talking about. Inquiring minds would like to know.
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Post by #notLauren on Apr 10, 2018 22:50:13 GMT
Because the witnesses always end up dead. Seriously. What the hell is wrong with you? We all know the answer to that; I don't agree with you. That means I must certainly be wrong or nuts, right? ?
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