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Post by hop2 on Apr 21, 2018 13:16:04 GMT
the new statistics are out .. and there are now more articles about seniors who have no family.. and how will they handle aging (without money.. big big problem)... so what are you to do in the eyes of these republicans if you have no family? ? the options are dismal. your supposed to patriotically drop dead I guess?
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Post by jayfab on Apr 21, 2018 13:21:41 GMT
the new statistics are out .. and there are now more articles about seniors who have no family.. and how will they handle aging (without money.. big big problem)... so what are you to do in the eyes of these republicans if you have no family? ? the options are dismal. We are going backwards as a society
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Post by imsirius on Apr 21, 2018 14:09:36 GMT
Someone is very very nervous...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 14:36:36 GMT
Kyle Griffin...
“Trump has reportedly been complaining that Neil Gorsuch is becoming too liberal in his rulings.”
Someone may not be passing trump’s loyalty test here. 😀
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 21, 2018 15:01:29 GMT
“Trump has reportedly been complaining that Neil Gorsuch is becoming too liberal in his rulings.” Someone may not be passing trump’s loyalty test here. OH my!! Gorsuch is in some serious company! Doing his job!!
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Post by Merge on Apr 21, 2018 15:14:46 GMT
Kyle Griffin... “Trump has reportedly been complaining that Neil Gorsuch is becoming too liberal in his rulings.” Someone may not be passing trump’s loyalty test here. 😀 Ha ha. And Trump can't fire him!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 21, 2018 15:39:01 GMT
OH my!! Gorsuch is in some serious company! Doing his job!! Although he has not been fully tested yet!
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Post by dewryce on Apr 21, 2018 15:57:18 GMT
Someone is very very nervous... He's setting it up to claim that everyone who "flips" or provides evidence against him is lying/making things up. I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 16:04:05 GMT
This from trump...
“Heading to the Southern White House to watch the Funeral Service of Barbara Bush. First Lady Melania has arrived in Houston to pay our respects. Will be a beautiful day!”
Prompted this from Walter Shaub the former Director of Ethics....
“This reference to the "Southern White House" is part of the campaign to monetize the presidency. Unlike the Mid-Atlantic White House, you can purchase unlimited access to the Southern White House and its chief occupant if you are willing to pay him $200,000 per year.”
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 16:40:49 GMT
Again elections have consequences.
From the Environmental Defense Fund...
“Zinke’s latest change to the Endangered Species Act is more trouble than you think”
“A critical provision of the Endangered Species Act is now under fire, showing that the U.S. Department of the Interior is no more immune to reckless ideas than other federal agencies have been as of late.
The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service has asked the White House Office of Management and Budget to remove a long-standing regulation that provides default protection to threatened species.
Removing the so-called “blanket 4(d) rule” would immediately place more demands on the funding and staff of the already-strapped FWS. It would also make it more difficult to reverse species population declines – landing more animals and plants on the endangered species list – and fly in the face of years-long collaborative conservation efforts that prevented such listings.
This latest move comes on the heels of Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke’s controversial decision to reopen federal plans for protecting an imperiled bird, the greater sage-grouse, and to pave way for oil and gas development in sensitive Western habitats.
All are short-sighted and ultimately counter-productive policy changes designed to benefit a relatively small, but powerful, group of industry lobbyists.
Already-swamped agency couldn’t meet new demands
If the blanket rule were eliminated, FWS staff would instead have to determine whether and what protections are “necessary and advisable” for each and every species listed as threatened.
Such changes come at a bad time for an understaffed agency operating on a tight budget. A species-by-species approach requires analysis of the best available science impacts to habitat and imperiled species, work that takes time and resources that simply don’t exist today. The funding level proposed by the Trump administration for 2019 would make things even worse.
The proposal to remove the blanket protection for imperiled species is perplexing, too, considering that it has built-in flexibilities for ranchers, farmers, loggers and other land users whose activities can be exempted from the rule – and often are.
To date, FWS has created special 4(d) rules for about one-quarter of species listed as threatened, including the Utah prairie dog.
Uncertainty and litigation that nobody needs
Under the blanket rule, species automatically earn protection from habitat changes that kill, injure or harm them – an essential and practical provision with built-in flexibility that saves agency resources, provides certainty for landowners, and keeps species off the endangered species list.
If special rules must be devised for each threatened species, listing protections will lack national consistency and landowners will have little clarity on how they affect private property.
That would trigger protracted litigation over what is “necessary and advisable” protection, while stripping the Endangered Species Act from a much-needed relief valve in favor of a patchwork of restrictions that really don’t work for anyone.
I’ve worked closely with energy and agricultural stakeholders over the last decade to find wildlife solutions that work within the ESA and provide certainty for industries looking to develop land responsibly.
What FWS is putting forward here is not such a solution.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 16:43:45 GMT
Someone is very very nervous... Maggie Haberman just won a Pulitzer for her work. He is trying desperately to discredit her because he knows she has been uncovering a LOT.
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Post by vspindler on Apr 21, 2018 16:52:19 GMT
Does anyone else follow Elizabeth Cronise McLaughlin from the Gaia Leadership Project? She is a writer and lawyer and I really love her perspective on what some of the legal situations can really mean.
If you don’t follow her I recommend checking her out.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 21, 2018 16:53:01 GMT
Uncertainty and litigation that nobody needs
Under the blanket rule, species automatically earn protection from habitat changes that kill, injure or harm them – an essential and practical provision with built-in flexibility that saves agency resources, provides certainty for landowners, and keeps species off the endangered species list. If special rules must be devised for each threatened species, listing protections will lack national consistency and landowners will have little clarity on how they affect private property. That would trigger protracted litigation over what is “necessary and advisable” protection, while stripping the Endangered Species Act from a much-needed relief valve in favor of a patchwork of restrictions that really don’t work for anyone. I’ve worked closely with energy and agricultural stakeholders over the last decade to find wildlife solutions that work within the ESA and provide certainty for industries looking to develop land responsibly. What FWS is putting forward here is not such a solution. Law suits cost everyone, not counting the loss of nature!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 17:47:34 GMT
So there is a picture of Melania, President Obama, Michelle, President Clinton and Hillary at Barbara Bush’s funeral. That is the order in how they are sitting.
In the picture, I don’t know how to bring here, President Obama is talking to Melania. Both have smiles on their faces. Genuine smiles.
It shows just how classy President Obama is because, as we all know, Melania’s husband is busy dismantling as much of the work President Obama did as president as he can for no reason other than spite and jealousy.
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Post by coffeetalk on Apr 21, 2018 18:05:03 GMT
Does anyone else follow Elizabeth Cronise McLaughlin from the Gaia Leadership Project? She is a writer and lawyer and I really love her perspective on what some of the legal situations can really mean. If you don’t follow her I recommend checking her out. I do. She pulls no punches, is very intelligent and an experienced litigator. I learn so much from her daily broadcasts.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 18:58:21 GMT
linkGreg Sargent... “Since everyone is talking about media/2016, reposting: The grievances of Clinton supporters have proven 100% legit: washingtonpost.com/amphtml/blogs/…” So I read the column Greg was pushing. The basis of this column is the interview Comey gave NPR. There are a couple of points I agree with because hevis spot on. IMO Hillary’s emails were much ado about nothing. To those who think she put classified information at risk. Phooey for 2 reasons. 1. There is no such thing as a secured server. Again, there is no thing as a secured server. Everything sent by email is at risk. No matter who sends it. For every security measure taken there will be a hacker trying to get through it. And they have been successful in their endeavors. 2. The real classified information was in the woman’s head and unlike the current occupant of the Oval Office who has been known to blab there is absolutely nothing to indicate Hillary was “extremely careless” with the classified information in her noggin. Of course there are those who don’t agree with this because they want to believe the worse of Hillary. And that is on them and because of it this country’s values are under attack. His column. “Comey’s remarkable new admission helps explain how Trump won“
“Former FBI director James B. Comey’s new book and media tour have been closely scrutinized in all kinds of ways, but there should be a lot more media discussion about another inescapable takeaway from his revelations: The grievances of Hillary Clinton and her supporters about what happened in the 2016 election have proved to be well-grounded and legitimate. Comey has just given a new interview to NPR that drives this home. In it, Comey admits that his decision to sharply criticize Clinton at a July 2016 news conference — at which he closed the email probe — was not only a break with department protocol but also that it would have been “reasonable” under the circumstances to have said nothing.
Asked by NPR’s Steve Inskeep what the FBI would have done to close the case if it had been an “ordinary investigation,” Comey said: “In the ordinary case, we would most likely in writing prepare some sort of summary of what our investigation had determined and then send it over to the Justice Department, and they would in the ordinary case either say nothing, which is the most common case, or at most issue a letter to the target saying, or the subject saying it’s over, or some minimal statement about it.”
Under ordinary circumstances he’d never publicly criticize the subject. Comey has repeatedly said this case was extraordinary because the FBI would come under heavy scrutiny after closing a probe into a presidential candidate, and he didn’t want the public to lack confidence in the electoral outcome if Clinton won. Comey repeated this to NPR. But yet nothing was said about the investigation the FBI opened on the trump campaign prior to the election.But Inskeep then pressed Comey on why he thought public confidence in a Clinton win might be lacking. Inskeep noted that Comey writes in his book that, initially, Comey thought it was absurd to see Bill Clinton’s infamous meeting on a tarmac with then-Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch as part of a conspiracy to exonerate Hillary Clinton, as many on the right were painting it. But Comey wrote that cable TV coverage of it as allegedly nefarious influenced his thinking about how the FBI would be perceived in all this and how to handle the Clinton probe. Then the following exchange happened: INSKEEP: Would it perhaps have been a better course of action to resist all that shouting out there and do something closer to what you would normally do?
COMEY: Look, I meant what I said earlier — a reasonable person might have done that. I think that would have been a mistake … Comey went on to claim that other factors, not just cable coverage, led him to conclude that public confidence would be in doubt. So this is not an admission of error on Comey’s part. But it is an admission that the cable news chatter partly influenced him, and that it would have been reasonable to refrain from doing what he did end up doing. In other words, he didn’t have to do it. And if he had refrained, he would not have lodged public criticism of Clinton, which surely helped fuel media coverage that created the impression that both Clinton and Donald Trump, with his history of business grift and shady dealing, had equivalent “question marks hanging over their heads,” as Brian Beutler puts it. Now apply this to another key revelation from Comey, this one concerning his decision to announce 11 days before the election that “new” emails relevant to the Clinton probe had been discovered. In his book, Comey admits: “It is entirely possible that, because I was making decisions in an environment where Hillary Clinton was sure to be the next president, my concern about making her an illegitimate president by concealing the restarted investigation bore greater weight than it would have if the election appeared closer.” The through line between these two events is why Comey worried about this prospect. If media attacks — many of which came from the right — on the FBI’s handling of the Clinton probe helped influence his decision to hold the July 2016 presser, it is almost certainly true that this weighed on his decision to announce the “new” emails as well. A decades-long GOP campaign
As Jonathan Chait explains, Comey’s willingness to let such concerns influence these episodes reflects the success of a decades-long campaign by Republicans and GOP-aligned media to skew the political dialog by hyping fake scandals, which in this case led Comey to act to “avoid charges of favoritism,” thus willingly handing bad-faith actors leverage over law enforcement. It’s hard to read Comey’s NPR interview as anything other than confirmation of this. Worse, Comey also revealed that not allowing this to happen would have been a perfectly appropriate outcome.All of this implicates the media’s conduct as well — both before and after the fact. Though Comey’s last-minute email revelation admittedly created a complicated editorial conundrum, it was widely hyped by the media in a manner that was surely disproportionate, given that at the time, no one knew whether the emails amounted to anything at all (which, it turned out, they didn’t). As Nate Silver has shown, the episode may have helped tip the election to Trump.
When supporters of Clinton made these points after the election, they were widely derided for being in denial about the real reasons Clinton lost. The notion that Comey and related over-the-top press coverage might have played an important role was greeted — including by some neutral reporters — as self-evidently, uproariously, knee-slappingly absurd, as if it constituted nothing more than hopeless partisan brainwashing.
It is true that Clinton lost for all kinds of other reasons, including her own role in emailgate, her flaws as a candidate, multiple strategic failures by the campaign and various unhealthy tendencies in the Democratic Party. But as Comey himself has now confirmed, the conduct for which he was responsible didn’t have to happen. Comey won’t allow himself to take this extra step, but his own retrospective testimony also confirms that it should not have happened. It likely helped Trump win, and to the degree that it did, it produced genuine institutional and systemic failure on multiple fronts. Comey’s media tour should lead us to forthrightly grapple with this — and to acknowledge that Clinton supporters are absolutely right to be bitterly angry over it to this day.“
Again, Nate Silver/FiveThrityEight’s average daily polls showed Hillary’s support tanked when the Comey letter was released 11 days before the election. Something she didn’t recover fully from by the election.
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Post by vspindler on Apr 21, 2018 19:02:40 GMT
Does anyone else follow Elizabeth Cronise McLaughlin from the Gaia Leadership Project? She is a writer and lawyer and I really love her perspective on what some of the legal situations can really mean. If you don’t follow her I recommend checking her out. I do. She pulls no punches, is very intelligent and an experienced litigator. I learn so much from her daily broadcasts. I just started listening to her dailys in the last month, but have been following her comments. I didn’t realize how much I was missing by not listening. But damn, I don’t know how she gets any sleep lol
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Post by imsirius on Apr 21, 2018 19:12:23 GMT
So there is a picture of Melania, President Obama, Michelle, President Clinton and Hillary at Barbara Bush’s funeral. That is the order in how they are sitting. In the picture, I don’t know how to bring here, President Obama is talking to Melania. Both have smiles on their faces. Genuine smiles. It shows just how classy President Obama is because, as we all know, Melania’s husband is busy dismantling as much of the work President Obama did as president as he can for no reason other than spite and jealousy. I found this one
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 21, 2018 19:27:40 GMT
But as Comey himself has now confirmed, the conduct for which he was responsible didn’t have to happen. Comey won’t allow himself to take this extra step, but his own retrospective testimony also confirms that it should not have happened. It likely helped Trump win, and to the degree that it did, it produced genuine institutional and systemic failure on multiple fronts. Comey’s media tour should lead us to forthrightly grapple with this — and to acknowledge that Clinton supporters are absolutely right to be bitterly angry over it to this day.“ WOW!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 19:28:50 GMT
Pastor Frank Amedia recently appeared on televangelist Jim Bakker‘s show, along with members of his group “POTUS Shield,” to join in a collective prayer to protect Donald Trump from the deep state and “witches and warlocks.”
Yeah - that's his problem.
Too many Americans are just off their rockers.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 19:37:49 GMT
So there is a picture of Melania, President Obama, Michelle, President Clinton and Hillary at Barbara Bush’s funeral. That is the order in how they are sitting. In the picture, I don’t know how to bring here, President Obama is talking to Melania. Both have smiles on their faces. Genuine smiles. It shows just how classy President Obama is because, as we all know, Melania’s husband is busy dismantling as much of the work President Obama did as president as he can for no reason other than spite and jealousy. I found this one Thank you. That’s it.
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Post by casii on Apr 21, 2018 19:38:01 GMT
Pastor Frank Amedia recently appeared on televangelist Jim Bakker‘s show, along with members of his group “POTUS Shield,” to join in a collective prayer to protect Donald Trump from the deep state and “witches and warlocks.” Yeah - that's his problem. Too many Americans are just off their rockers. Pastor Jim Wallis of Sojourners has an article about reclaiming Jesus from the so-called Evangelicals. Christians with a brain in the noggin would do better to follow Jesus than these charlatans and scam artists. And selling the crap concurrently? Remind anyone of money changers in the Temple?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 19:53:47 GMT
I wonder if Trump was watching the funeral today and having an "ouch" moment listening to Jon Meachan in his tribute saying that the Bush's governed by putting country above party, found the common good above political gain and service to others above the settlement of scores.
I'm sure Melania also felt a bit uncomfortable listening to that too.
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Apr 21, 2018 19:56:31 GMT
Good point. To me North Korea “caved” in too soon. Or maybe Kim Jong-un figured he ran into someone crazier then him. Somewhere I heard the comment that NK may be done testing those particular devices and not using that site any longer. A partial shut down of their program. That site had a tunnel collapse last Fall that killed ~200 people. That *particular site* is very likely no longer testing nuclear weapons. This I believe. NK walking away from nuclear weapons altogether? No effing way do I believe that. KJU has been on Twitter exchanging playground taunts with Trump from the getgo, right down to the juvenile name-calling. Why in the world is *anyone* taking this guy's word on something as important as nuclear weapons?
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Post by pierogi on Apr 21, 2018 20:18:14 GMT
Pastor Frank Amedia recently appeared on televangelist Jim Bakker‘s show, along with members of his group “POTUS Shield,” to join in a collective prayer to protect Donald Trump from the deep state and “witches and warlocks.” Yeah - that's his problem. Too many Americans are just off their rockers. that video (people in it) are all sorts of creepy. Haven't watch it all, actually not far at all. Got to the point where they mention 45 says he is the storm..at about :55. Then the blond lady slaps desk, "ah, yes!" so robotic creepy, to me. media.giphy.com/media/133gZsXPvC9Ks8/giphy.gifcuckoo! Smdh. Witches and warlocks? We're going backwards right into the Middle Ages. Insane.
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Post by rodeomom on Apr 21, 2018 20:26:33 GMT
So there is a picture of Melania, President Obama, Michelle, President Clinton and Hillary at Barbara Bush’s funeral. That is the order in how they are sitting. In the picture, I don’t know how to bring here, President Obama is talking to Melania. Both have smiles on their faces. Genuine smiles. It shows just how classy President Obama is because, as we all know, Melania’s husband is busy dismantling as much of the work President Obama did as president as he can for no reason other than spite and jealousy. I found this one View AttachmentShe looks more relaxed with President Obama than she does with her own husband.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 21:02:12 GMT
So there is a picture of Melania, President Obama, Michelle, President Clinton and Hillary at Barbara Bush’s funeral. That is the order in how they are sitting. In the picture, I don’t know how to bring here, President Obama is talking to Melania. Both have smiles on their faces. Genuine smiles. It shows just how classy President Obama is because, as we all know, Melania’s husband is busy dismantling as much of the work President Obama did as president as he can for no reason other than spite and jealousy. So you mean he didn't leave in a huff? Or refuse to sit next to her? Boy, I sure do miss having people with class in the WH.
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Post by Skellinton on Apr 21, 2018 21:36:51 GMT
I wonder if Trump was watching the funeral today and having an "ouch" moment listening to Jon Meachan in his tribute saying that the Bush's governed by putting country above party, found the common good above political gain and service to others above the settlement of scores. I'm sure Melania also felt a bit uncomfortable listening to that too. I feel confident saying that there was no ouch moment. The man is completely lacking self awareness. If anything he probably thought Meachan was talking about him and is feeling incredibly proud of what a great leader he is.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 22:40:47 GMT
Reminds me of a cult - $35K for "training".
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Post by maryannscraps on Apr 21, 2018 22:53:05 GMT
Someone is very very nervous... Notice that he's totally acknowledging there is something to flip? Innocent people will say "I'm glad he can testify toward my innocence." Or say "flip about what?" It's another protestation from him ---- he doth too much.
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