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Post by chaosisapony on Apr 7, 2018 23:55:44 GMT
I'm in the process of buying a newer, but not brand new, manufactured home. I'm trying to find good insurance coverage for it but I'm a bit lost. Maybe there's a pea that works in insurance that can help?
Mainly, my concern is fire coverage. The only quote I have been able to get so far states it covers the home only for wind, hail, flood and "other disasters". It concerns me that fire isn't specifically stated as being covered.
Also, the agent explained to me that in the event my home is destroyed the insurance will only pay the value of the home. I don't even know how to get an idea of the value of the home only since I'm buying it with the land and it's on a permanent foundation. To me this doesn't seem like helpful coverage since the insurance wouldn't pay the replacement cost for a new home or pay enough for me to pay off my mortgage. This kind of coverage just doesn't make sense to me. Can anyone help?
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Post by mom on Apr 8, 2018 0:09:42 GMT
I'm in the process of buying a newer, but not brand new, manufactured home. I'm trying to find good insurance coverage for it but I'm a bit lost. Maybe there's a pea that works in insurance that can help? Mainly, my concern is fire coverage. The only quote I have been able to get so far states it covers the home only for wind, hail, flood and "other disasters". It concerns me that fire isn't specifically stated as being covered. Also, the agent explained to me that in the event my home is destroyed the insurance will only pay the value of the home. I don't even know how to get an idea of the value of the home only since I'm buying it with the land and it's on a permanent foundation. To me this doesn't seem like helpful coverage since the insurance wouldn't pay the replacement cost for a new home or pay enough for me to pay off my mortgage. This kind of coverage just doesn't make sense to me. Can anyone help? There should be an appraisal of the homes value, separate from the land. SaveSave
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Post by chaosisapony on Apr 8, 2018 0:12:24 GMT
Oh ok, my appraisal should be happening sometime next week so hopefully there will be a break down of costs shown to me. Thanks!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 8, 2018 0:19:14 GMT
Call several agents, but also try you agent for car insurance. Helps the cost with all your coverage together. What about the contents of your home?
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Post by AmandaA on Apr 8, 2018 0:47:54 GMT
The NADA Guides have appraisal criteria for manufactured and mobile homes. It is very specific and starts with the maker, model, etc. and will take into account features and upgrades on the home as well as overall condition. Our property manager uses this system and it is very straightforward when we negotiate to purchase homes.
I am not sure I understand part of your question above though. I am assuming your mortgage is going to be for the value of the home and the property. So if the home is lost to a fire or natural disaster the insurance won't pay off the value of the mortgage, because after all you still have the land. The insurance we use will insure the NADA value of the home, but our situation is a little different in that the lots and homes are not owned together.
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Post by chaosisapony on Apr 8, 2018 2:34:13 GMT
The NADA Guides have appraisal criteria for manufactured and mobile homes. It is very specific and starts with the maker, model, etc. and will take into account features and upgrades on the home as well as overall condition. Our property manager uses this system and it is very straightforward when we negotiate to purchase homes. I am not sure I understand part of your question above though. I am assuming your mortgage is going to be for the value of the home and the property. So if the home is lost to a fire or natural disaster the insurance won't pay off the value of the mortgage, because after all you still have the land. The insurance we use will insure the NADA value of the home, but our situation is a little different in that the lots and homes are not owned together. Thanks for the info. We had fires come through here last year and people's insurance companies paid off their mortgages, so I guess I thought that was normal. So if the insurance only covers the value of the home, which isn't nearly enough to get a replacement home, what do people do when their homes are destroyed?
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Post by snyder on Apr 8, 2018 5:29:33 GMT
The NADA Guides have appraisal criteria for manufactured and mobile homes. It is very specific and starts with the maker, model, etc. and will take into account features and upgrades on the home as well as overall condition. Our property manager uses this system and it is very straightforward when we negotiate to purchase homes. I am not sure I understand part of your question above though. I am assuming your mortgage is going to be for the value of the home and the property. So if the home is lost to a fire or natural disaster the insurance won't pay off the value of the mortgage, because after all you still have the land. The insurance we use will insure the NADA value of the home, but our situation is a little different in that the lots and homes are not owned together. Thanks for the info. We had fires come through here last year and people's insurance companies paid off their mortgages, so I guess I thought that was normal. So if the insurance only covers the value of the home, which isn't nearly enough to get a replacement home, what do people do when their homes are destroyed? I live in Colorado and we have had our share of fires the last 5-6 years. Between 2 fires, approximately 1,000 homes were destroyed. Today, only about 50% have been rebuilt because owners were not able to afford to rebuild as their insurance did not have a replacement clause. My sister bought a modular and they use one through AARP, but it is not Hartford, which is the normal company that AARP contracts with. I don't know the name of it, but I could ask her tomorrow. I'm sure they don't write just for AARP, so maybe you could check with them. I know she had some issues for awhile as she was not happy with coverage and the cost. I'm going to ask her if she knows if her policy covers replacement and if not, maybe she too should reconsider. They've done so much to the property since buying the home. They have put in barns, sheds, and other out buildings, fences, etc. We are able to look up our county's assessed property values on line. Maybe you could look there or even call as most all that info is public information. We can look up by name or address and it lists assessed value of home and land separately.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 7:32:13 GMT
Your insurance will be based on what type of home you are looking at.
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Post by nlwilkins on Apr 8, 2018 7:42:52 GMT
Also, check into the fact that it is on a slab, that might make your insurance a little cheaper - We got our insurance through our car insurance agent at Farm Bureau. He found one for us and bundled it with our car insurance. Utilize your agent to find the best deal for you. Your taxes should break it down into land and home as well. You can go online and see what the property taxes and building taxes were for the place last year. Most county and cities have it all online.
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Post by bigbundt on Apr 8, 2018 12:03:35 GMT
Thanks for the info. We had fires come through here last year and people's insurance companies paid off their mortgages, so I guess I thought that was normal. So if the insurance only covers the value of the home, which isn't nearly enough to get a replacement home, what do people do when their homes are destroyed? This might depend on the type of insurance you get. We chose "replacement value" on our insurance which means they will pay what it costs to rebuild our house and replace items, not the value at the time of the fire where they value your house and then start deducting depreciation to determine the payout. So if your roof was 15 years old they consider depreciation and reduce the amount of the payoff by that amount. I've never had to deal with a total loss to fire but I don't think they pay off your mortgage AND give you more money to rebuild (if that is what you are saying).
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Post by hop2 on Apr 8, 2018 12:16:45 GMT
An insurance company would not pay you for your land value. If your house were destroyed you still own the land to sell it and recoup the land value.
I can’t understand why an insurance company would pay you for land unless they take ownership of the land. That wouldn’t make sense.?
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Post by Sharon on Apr 8, 2018 12:19:33 GMT
The NADA Guides have appraisal criteria for manufactured and mobile homes. It is very specific and starts with the maker, model, etc. and will take into account features and upgrades on the home as well as overall condition. Our property manager uses this system and it is very straightforward when we negotiate to purchase homes. I am not sure I understand part of your question above though. I am assuming your mortgage is going to be for the value of the home and the property. So if the home is lost to a fire or natural disaster the insurance won't pay off the value of the mortgage, because after all you still have the land. The insurance we use will insure the NADA value of the home, but our situation is a little different in that the lots and homes are not owned together. Thanks for the info. We had fires come through here last year and people's insurance companies paid off their mortgages, so I guess I thought that was normal. So if the insurance only covers the value of the home, which isn't nearly enough to get a replacement home, what do people do when their homes are destroyed? We have replacement cost on our home. I'm not sure you can get that on manufactured/mobile homes because they depreciate in value instead of appreciate like a "regular" home. I know some companies won't even write insurance on them. Also some companies will only insure them until they are 10 years old.
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Post by sweetpeasmom on Apr 8, 2018 13:27:32 GMT
We won't write them once they are a certain age. We have an outside company we can use at that point but they too are actual cash value and not replacement cost. Insurance is a risk business and manufactured homes I'm guessing are a higher risk.
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Post by chaosisapony on Apr 8, 2018 23:02:31 GMT
Thanks for the info. We had fires come through here last year and people's insurance companies paid off their mortgages, so I guess I thought that was normal. So if the insurance only covers the value of the home, which isn't nearly enough to get a replacement home, what do people do when their homes are destroyed? We have replacement cost on our home. I'm not sure you can get that on manufactured/mobile homes because they depreciate in value instead of appreciate like a "regular" home. I know some companies won't even write insurance on them. Also some companies will only insure them until they are 10 years old. This is where I'm getting confused. The insurance agent I spoke with said I'd get replacement value on all of my belongings but not on the home. So if my house burns down, they'd only pay me the NADA value which would leave me with a huge gap between what I'd still owe on my mortgage and what the insurance payout would be therefore I'd be unable to purchase or build a new home. That just doesn't seem right to me. But then I don't see why these homes are considered higher risk to begin with. This particular manufactured home is much nicer and of a much better build quality than a lot of stick built homes in a five mile radius.
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Post by Sharon on Apr 9, 2018 22:41:43 GMT
They would never pay off your mortgage unless you owe less than the home is worth. They won't pay off the land. They are higher risk because they are more prone to burn completely if they catch fire. They also start depreciating immediately. It's all about the risk the insurance company is assuming. I personally would not ever consider buying a mobile/manufactured home. It's a risk you are going to have to decide if you are willing to assume.
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Post by caangel on Apr 9, 2018 23:17:11 GMT
When you say manufacturer home are you talking about a mobile home or a prefabricated home that is partially built off site then put together on site resemblimg a typical stick built home? These are two different type of homes with very different types of insurance coverage. Make sure you are discussing the right product with your agent. I think some on this thread are assuming mobile home and I think you may mean prefab home.
I had never heard of a prefab home prior to the peas. It just isn't done here to my knowledge.
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Post by Sharon on Apr 10, 2018 22:48:18 GMT
The prefab/manufactured homes still don't have good coverage. My son found this out when he tried to buy a house. They wouldn't issue the mortgage on it because of that. He quickly backed out of that and bought "regular" home.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 23:58:30 GMT
When you say manufacturer home are you talking about a mobile home or a prefabricated home that is partially built off site then put together on site resemblimg a typical stick built home? These are two different type of homes with very different types of insurance coverage. Make sure you are discussing the right product with your agent. I think some on this thread are assuming mobile home and I think you may mean prefab home. I had never heard of a prefab home prior to the peas. It just isn't done here to my knowledge. . This. A manufactured home with a solid foundation is way different than a mobile home. I think I heard that a mobile home is still on a "trailer" with wheels. It can be on a foundation but as long as it has wheels it is still a mobile home. A manufactured home was built in the factory and was never attached to a trailer with wheels.
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