gorgeouskid
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Post by gorgeouskid on Sept 13, 2014 4:42:36 GMT
Just got home from Joan Rivers' shiva/memorial and it was lovely. Sort of crowded, at Melissa's house. Flowers were exquisite and the food was wonderful.
Mel seemed to be hanging in, still in shock, IMunprofessionalO. Cooper was fine, and Mel said he was hanging in- kids process things at a different rate and way than adults.
DS was the first of Cooper's friends there, and they had a good time- mostly teammates there and a couple of school friends for Coop.
Not too many obvious celebs- Lily Tomlin was cool, Kris Jenner was very botoxed, and Betty Buckley was white haired. Many behind-the-scenes people. Producers. Directors. Writers.
Melissa appreciates all the good wishes for their loss.
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Post by jamieson on Sept 13, 2014 4:48:24 GMT
It seems kind of tacky to comment on fellow guests at such an event, particularly if you are close enough to have been invited. I'm sure the family and guests trust you to be discrete.
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Post by smokey2471 on Sept 13, 2014 4:49:46 GMT
So nice that your son could be there for his friend. I really liked her brash sense of humor and she always made me laugh. Tell them we will miss her and wish them peace.
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Post by smokey2471 on Sept 13, 2014 4:53:43 GMT
It seems kind of tacky to comment on fellow guests at such an event, particularly if you are close enough to have been invited. I'm sure the family and guests trust you to be discrete. I don't think it was tacky especially since her wish was for it to be a very public showy way of going out! She wanted all the celebrity pomp. I could see where it would be tacky if the family had asked for privacy but since she wanted a huge parade and big todo about it it seems ok to me.
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Post by elaine on Sept 13, 2014 4:58:33 GMT
May the family find comfort while they sit shiva for Joan.
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gorgeouskid
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Post by gorgeouskid on Sept 13, 2014 4:59:22 GMT
Meh, there were professional photographers- it wasn't a completely blacked out event. They are reality television. My intention is to show that in a world of "really" TV, Melissa and Cooper are supported by a variety of people. Including lower middle class me and my family.
I thought it was cool, but did not intrude on anyone,
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 5:22:38 GMT
I am still so saddened by her passing. More than I ever thought I'd be. Her debut on Johnny Carson was the year I was born, so she's been 'around' my whole life and then some. She made me laugh, gasp and appreciate strong women. The world lost someone very, very special.  L
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Post by annabella on Sept 13, 2014 16:54:45 GMT
How did you know them?
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Post by donna on Sept 13, 2014 16:59:57 GMT
I am still sad about her death as well. We had watched the Fashion Police about the Emmys and then just a couple of days later Joan was in a coma. It all just doesn't seem real.
I hope Melissa and Cooper continue to get lots of support from those around them.
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scrappinmama
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Post by scrappinmama on Sept 13, 2014 18:21:45 GMT
I was a big fan. But I agree that's a bit troubling that a guest of a private event is spilling details. I'm not trying to be a bitch about this. I really feel like it is wrong to spill details on a private event. This makes me so glad that I'm not a celebrity. They may have had photographers there for their own use. But I wonder how they would feel if they knew you were bringing this up on a message board. Obviously, you don't see anything wrong with it, but I do. Just because they are reality stars, does not mean it's ok to tell others about a private event. We don't need to be reassured that Melissa and Cooper are being supported. We know they have people around them.
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Post by spitfiregirl on Sept 13, 2014 19:15:48 GMT
It's the judgement on lily Tomlinson, kris Jenner and Betty Buckley that rubs people the wrong way..... I don't see a problem mentioning who was there, but judging them....?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 19:19:46 GMT
Poor form.
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Dani-Mani
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Post by Dani-Mani on Sept 13, 2014 19:29:39 GMT
I don't understand the point of this post--are you trying to brag that you knew Joan Rivers? Otherwise, why even post this?
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Post by scrappinmama on Sept 13, 2014 20:10:21 GMT
I don't understand the point of this post--are you trying to brag that you knew Joan Rivers? Otherwise, why even post this? It is a brag, attempting to show concern for Joan Rivers family. Very poor form. Indeed, and makes the op look bad in my opinion.
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Post by lovetodigi on Sept 13, 2014 22:05:14 GMT
Most celebrity deaths make me feel a bit sad but Joans was one that has really bothered me. I think that maybe it is because of watching their show a few times and seeing how close her and Melissa were. I know that Melissa and Coopers hearts are crushed from the sudden loss of the most important person in their lives. I am very close to my mother and I know how hard it would be for me to lose her so I can kind of identify with the pain Melissa is going through. Prayers for them both.
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Post by Really Red on Sept 13, 2014 22:13:41 GMT
Oh for heaven's sake. I appreciate that gorgeouskid told us what happened. She only dissed Kris Jenner and then barely at all. That is not news to anyone. She has also given a very kind and thoughtful opinion about the whole thing.
We all ask constantly who the other Peas know who is famous, then someone tells us and we jump all over them.
Thank you gorgeouskid from me. I love that Joan Rivers was a philanthropic person. She didn't find anything private, so I'm not sure what everyone is up-at-arms about.
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Post by Dani-Mani on Sept 13, 2014 22:17:12 GMT
We all ask constantly who the other Peas know who is famous, then someone tells us and we jump all over them. They don't post threads trying to brag about who they rubbed shoulders with at a memorial service, for heaven's sake. Major difference. And it sounds like she didn't know Joan; her son knows Cooper, and was invited as a guest for Cooper to have people to talk to.
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Post by lillieleigh on Sept 13, 2014 23:15:45 GMT
I am still so saddened by her passing. More than I ever thought I'd be. Her debut on Johnny Carson was the year I was born, so she's been 'around' my whole life and then some. She made me laugh, gasp and appreciate strong women. The world lost someone very, very special.  L I totally agree with you!
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Post by hop2 on Sept 13, 2014 23:31:50 GMT
I haven't ever received an 'invitation' for shiva. You just go if the people mean something to you. It's kind if open house.
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Post by marianne on Sept 14, 2014 0:29:57 GMT
So gorgeouskid shares a little bit of her real, apparently true life, and gets hammered for tackiness and bragging? Seriously? She didn't have to know Joan Rivers, she knows her daughter. How is that bragging? Her son is friend's with Joan River's grandson. How is that bragging? It's part of her real world. People are constantly dissing celebrities on these boards all.the.time. Red Carpet threads? Award show threads? Gossip columns? Acting like they "know" that every lie they read and every piece of rumor they're spreading is the gospel truth. It's quite sickening, but no one gets skewered for that. The hypocrisy is astounding. Thanks for sharing your experience, gorgeouskid
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Post by scrappinmama on Sept 14, 2014 0:47:56 GMT
I'm old school. Mourning is sacred. I get pissed when photographers snap pictures of celebrities leaving memorial services. Celebrities should be allowed to mourn without having to worry about people going out and telling people what went down. Maybe my reaction would have been different if it were a birthday party or a celebration. But this was a somber event. The family deserves privacy.
And I'll say it again. I'm glad I'm not famous or related to someone famous. It must suck during times like this.
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Post by smokey2471 on Sept 14, 2014 2:35:07 GMT
I thought you described it very well and only mentioned the celebs as an after thought. It's not like you said hey guess who was there and takes on and on about it. You described the overall feel and the briefly mentioned that a couple of celebs were there.
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Post by gryroagain on Sept 14, 2014 2:56:49 GMT
I think it was cool you shared- it personalized the celebrity we all feel like we "know" a bit, at least to me. It's cool your kid and her grandson are close, and cmon, it's Joan freaking Rivers- dishing on how someone looks (even at her memorial) is pretty much exactly what she did, and so IMO totally in keeping with her life. And it was a few throw away comments anyway, hardly "dishing".
I will miss her greatly, and I'm glad a pea knows her well enough to attend her memorial. I am sure you sent all the pea wishes and energy to her on our behalf!
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Post by jamieson on Sept 14, 2014 2:57:25 GMT
I think there's a huge difference between a celebrity on the red carpet, and being a guest at someone's home during a period of mourning. I think when you have a personal relationship with someone in the public eye, it is even more important to keep that relationship private. Yes, I think it's in poor taste to comment on someone's botox and hair at this sort of gathering, because they are guests as well. To each his own.
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Post by gritzi on Sept 14, 2014 3:02:21 GMT
I agree w/you!
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Post by smokey2471 on Sept 14, 2014 3:40:58 GMT
I'm old school. Mourning is sacred. I get pissed when photographers snap pictures of celebrities leaving memorial services. Celebrities should be allowed to mourn without having to worry about people going out and telling people what went down. Maybe my reaction would have been different if it were a birthday party or a celebration. But this was a somber event. The family deserves privacy. And I'll say it again. I'm glad I'm not famous or related to someone famous. It must suck during times like this. Except that in her own words Joan did not want a somber affair. She wanted a huge red carpet event. A parade down Broadway and a big huge "send off". We are all different and our views and opinions are what makes us unique. I'm still loving how everyone is for the most part...on this thread anyway disagreeing nicely. It's nice to be able to banter and disagree while still enjoying other random post by the same person on other threads...like what's your favorite Tupperware and is my cat crazy without dragging up an old controversy from years past!! I say we pay ourselves in the back and continue to keep diss agreeing so nicely!! I thoroughly enjoy and agree with a lot of things scrappinmama and Jamison talk about on other subjects!! I'm glad we are all "friends" crap I was trying to spell kumbyeya and am too lazy to look it up and my voice text keeps changing it to come by you...
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Post by lillieleigh on Sept 14, 2014 12:56:34 GMT
Oh for heaven's sake. I appreciate that gorgeouskid told us what happened. She only dissed Kris Jenner and then barely at all. That is not news to anyone. She has also given a very kind and thoughtful opinion about the whole thing. We all ask constantly who the other Peas know who is famous, then someone tells us and we jump all over them. Thank you gorgeouskid from me. I love that Joan Rivers was a philanthropic person. She didn't find anything private, so I'm not sure what everyone is up-at-arms about. I agree with you completely!
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Sept 14, 2014 13:02:22 GMT
I think it was cool you shared- it personalized the celebrity we all feel like we "know" a bit, at least to me. It's cool your kid and her grandson are close, and cmon, it's Joan freaking Rivers- dishing on how someone looks (even at her memorial) is pretty much exactly what she did, and so IMO totally in keeping with her life. And it was a few throw away comments anyway, hardly "dishing". I will miss her greatly, and I'm glad a pea knows her well enough to attend her memorial. I am sure you sent all the pea wishes and energy to her on our behalf! This is what i was thinking!
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Post by gorgeouskid on Sept 14, 2014 20:40:49 GMT
Our sons are friends and my husband and I have become friends with Melissa. When Joan first passed and I posted on that thread, a couple of people mentioned to pass on their thoughts and prayers to Melissa. I did- saying, "There are many people out there who are praying for you and send you their good thoughts." She said, "I am lucky to have so much support."
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Post by gorgeouskid on Sept 14, 2014 20:54:43 GMT
We did receive an invitation, and it read, "In Remebrance of Joan Rivers, Melissa Rivers and Cooper Endicott will be receiving family and friends for Shiva." There was a candle at the door and a box of kippahs (yarmulkes) on the guest book table. They had just returned from New York on Wednesday.
I was honored that we were invited, and DS was most certainly there to keep Cooper's thoughts off the sadness of the past couple of weeks. We would much rather have been there for a happier occasion.
ETA- we had to RSVP because there was valet service and parking can be a bitch by her house. We also checked in with security who had a copy of the guest list, to keep out the uninvited. An open house in this situation would have been ridiculous. There were at least 6 LAPD cop cars and about 10 black suit security guards.
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