We will be taking a vacation for two weeks in Europe. We have insurance but my husband is on Medicare plus the "best/most comprehensive" extra insurance. It would pay maximum of $50,000 abroad for medical expenses. He has a pre-existing condition and it is very difficult if not impossible to get coverage for that overseas.
Here in the US, the "top part" of the bill could be, for instance $10,000 (or euros, say). Then the insurance company would "cut" the bill and maybe it would only be $5000. Then we would have our copay which might be 500 or $1000.
In Europe does it work the same way? When you get a hospital bill is there a "giant" top figure but you or the insurance company only pay the "smaller" amount? Or is the original amount billed, the "fair" amount?
buy travel insurance.. it is really not that expensive to get covered and evacuation help. we are doing the same thing.. a few hundred will save you a headache. nomad is one good brand.
We will be taking a vacation for two weeks in Europe. We have insurance but my husband is on Medicare plus the "best/most comprehensive" extra insurance. It would pay maximum of $50,000 abroad for medical expenses. He has a pre-existing condition and it is very difficult if not impossible to get coverage for that overseas.
Here in the US, the "top part" of the bill could be, for instance $10,000 (or euros, say). Then the insurance company would "cut" the bill and maybe it would only be $5000. Then we would have our copay which might be 500 or $1000.
In Europe does it work the same way? When you get a hospital bill is there a "giant" top figure but you or the insurance company only pay the "smaller" amount? Or is the original amount billed, the "fair" amount?
Thanks!!
Most overseas posters are going to be very confused by the concept of an initial bill being much higher (the "top part") than what your insurance company has negotiated to pay for the procedure.
There is likely to only be one charge for whatever care your DH needs and it will probably be closer to (or much less than) what you are used to seeing as the discounted rate.
buy travel insurance.. it is really not that expensive to get covered and evacuation help. we are doing the same thing.. a few hundred will save you a headache. nomad is one good brand.
Normal travel insurance does NOT COVER pre-existing conditions. Some will offer a waiver for pre-existing conditions, but the cost and availability varies widely depending on the condition.
His pre-existing condition is excluded because we had to buy it within 24 hours of paying our deposit for the trip. We did that back in January.
I never knew that insurance to cover a pre-existing condition had to be purchased right away (trip is in June).
We had bought travel evacuation insurance in the past and our regular insurance covered us overseas. We had "self-insured" the flight, etc itself.
So there is nothing available at any price because-- 1)pre-existing condition (stable for 10+ years with meds) and 2) because we did not purchase insurance when we booked the trip.
Eye-opener for me. Just something to keep in mind if you have a pre-existing condition and plan to get travel insurance--get it when you book your trip.
Buddysmom Member Since November 2002 PeaNut Number: 54471
I didn't get a bill for either of my two surgeries - the hospital billed the insurance company and all I had to pay was a €10/day copay. Same with GP visits - I swipe my insurance card at the front desk and that is it, not even a copay. BUT - and it is a big BUT in this case - I am covered by the German public insurance system. If you are not European, you wouldn't be covered by our system.
ETA: What you talk about in your post - a 'top line' that then gets reduced by your insurance - doesn't make any sense in a system like ours, where everyone has to have insurance, and everyone has the same coverage.
I didn't get a bill for either of my two surgeries - the hospital billed the insurance company and all I had to pay was a €10/day copay. Same with GP visits - I swipe my insurance card at the front desk and that is it, not even a copay. BUT - and it is a big BUT in this case - I am covered by the German public insurance system. If you are not European, you wouldn't be covered by our system.
ETA: What you talk about in your post - a 'top line' that then gets reduced by your insurance - doesn't make any sense in a system like ours, where everyone has to have insurance, and everyone has the same coverage.
Yeah, it's all game playing in the US. The top line is the "wish list/giant amount." The insurance companies "negotiate" a lower amount and the patient pays the rest.
If you have no insurance they push you for the top line. And there is the game of coding to make it even more expensive.
What a mess insurance is here. Sorry, I digress, didn't mean to get into that issue.
Buddysmom Member Since November 2002 PeaNut Number: 54471
When I worked as a travel agent I sold plenty of policies that covered pre-existing condition coverage (for both the traveler and family members). It typically had to be purchased within 21 days of deposit to waive the pre-existing clause. I had people sign a form if they declined coverage. Sorry your agent didn't offer you a plan.