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Post by twinsmomfla99 on May 10, 2018 20:17:33 GMT
linkThe Hill.. “Pence on Mueller investigation: ‘It’s time to wrap it up’”
“Vice President Pence on Thursday urged special counsel Robert Mueller to conclude his investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, saying that doing so would be in the "interest of the country." "What I think is that it's been about a year since this investigation began," Pence said in an interview on NBC's "Today" show. "Our administration has provided over a million documents, we've fully cooperated in it and in the interest of the country, I think it's time to wrap it up." " And I would very respectfully encourage the special counsel and his team to bring their work to completion," he added. Pence said that the Trump administration has so far been fully cooperative with Mueller's probe, and that it would continue to be. “ Translation: Wrap it up! Even though it beginning to look like this guy is one of the most corrupted individuals around. What is not in the best interests of this country is not letting the investigation run its course so the American people know the truth. One way or the other. It is hard to bring it to "completion" when every day brings new information about someone else being involved in wrongdoing. The investigation is going on for so long because Mueller keeps uncovering new leads that require additional investigation.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on May 10, 2018 20:45:18 GMT
I think Pence left part of his sentence out of his statement-- "it's time to wrap it up BEFORE YOU FIND SOLID EVIDENCE AGAINST ME"
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Post by pierogi on May 10, 2018 21:50:19 GMT
Scott Dwirkin... “BREAKING: A GOP Hill staffer just told me she was instructed today to keep her distance from Devin Nunes, his staff and the GOP House Intel Cmte staff, because it looks like they are targets "of multiple ongoing investigations by Special Counsel Mueller's office/FBI and the DoJ." Interesting. But ... but ....but he investigated himself and found nothing!
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Post by peasapie on May 10, 2018 21:55:16 GMT
Iran V IsraelFallout from our President's withdrawal from the treaty. I'm not a bit surprised, but still sad to see we are back on this path now. This is exactly what Europe has feared will draw everyone into a global conflict and no, I don't expect this to end well for anyone, including the U.S. Most Americans today are either too young or too poorly educated to recall the Nationalism that preceded both World Wars. If they did, they would not embrace the lunacy of this fool. Sadly, POTUS was emboldened by NK doing the inevitable after they were starved out from 10 years of sanctions and accidentally shooting themselves in the (nuclear) foot. Now he imagines (as all narcissists do) that any decision he makes will work out well.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2018 22:43:20 GMT
The story is president tiny hands embarrassed the hell out of the Director of Homeland Security Nielsen in front of the entire cabinet. Enough so she just wanted to quit.
Chris Hayes of MSNBC summed up nicely.
"One person close to Ms. Nielsen said she is miserable in her job."
Well boo-fricking-hoo.”
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2018 23:00:06 GMT
The Hill....
“Trump official overseeing pandemic readiness exits“
A top official who would lead the U.S. response if a deadly pandemic broke out has left the administration amid a broad reorganization of the national security team, The Washington Post reported Thursday.
Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer left the National Security Council this week, and national security adviser John Bolton dissolved the global health security team that Ziemer oversaw.
The Post reported that Ziemer will not be replaced, and that his departure means that there is no single official at the highest levels of the administration who focuses only on global health security. Oh goody!
NSC spokesman Robert Palladino told The Post that the Trump administration "remains committed to global health, global health security and biodefense, and will continue to address these issues with the same resolve under the new structure."
Ziemer's departure from the NSC is the latest since Bolton joined the administration last month. Four senior aides left or resigned under pressure from the council during Bolton's first week on the job.
Bolton has said that he wants to restructure the NSC.
Two members of Ziemer's global health team are now working in a unit overseeing weapons of mass destruction and another joined a unit on international organizations, the Post reported.
White House homeland security adviser Tom Bossert, who called for a thorough strategy to combat pandemics, left the administration the day after Bolton starting serving in the post.
The Post noted that Ziemer departed the same day that a new Ebola outbreak was identified in Congo.
And the Trump administration included more than $250 million in unused funds from the Ebola epidemic in 2014 and 2015 in a rescissions package released this week.
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Post by imsirius on May 10, 2018 23:08:21 GMT
Few of todays tweets:
This IS DISGUSTING...what the fuck is wrong with these people?
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Post by hop2 on May 10, 2018 23:25:36 GMT
Iran V IsraelFallout from our President's withdrawal from the treaty. I'm not a bit surprised, but still sad to see we are back on this path now. This is exactly what Europe has feared will draw everyone into a global conflict and no, I don't expect this to end well for anyone, including the U.S. Most Americans today are either too young or too poorly educated to recall the Nationalism that preceded both World Wars. If they did, they would not embrace the lunacy of this fool. Sadly, POTUS was emboldened by NK doing the inevitable after they were starved out from 10 years of sanctions and accidentally shooting themselves in the (nuclear) foot. Now he imagines (as all narcissists do) that any decision he makes will work out well. Last year my son & I wrediscussing the similarities between then & pre WW1 & pre WW2. It was a bit shocking
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2018 23:47:07 GMT
ChrisLu...
“When Obama had issues with his Cabinet, he respected them enough not to dress them down in front of their colleagues. He would pull someone aside and express his concerns one-on-one. That's why Obama inspired such loyalty.
No one is loyal to a classless bully.👇”
Peter Baker...
“SCOOP: DHS Secretary Nielsen told colleagues she was close to resigning after Trump berated her in front of the whole cabinet on Wednesday. @shearm”
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 10, 2018 23:48:24 GMT
"One person close to Ms. Nielsen said she is miserable in her job." Well boo-fricking-hoo.” She made her choice! Was it good for her? Who knows? no one in that WH has any class or common sense! There are things that just should not be said, but look at their leader and his lackings..........
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Post by crimsoncat05 on May 10, 2018 23:48:38 GMT
This IS DISGUSTING...what the fuck is wrong with these people? I've been wondering this for a VERY long time, about quite a few people... ever since Nov. 2016, actually.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 10, 2018 23:50:16 GMT
I think Pence left part of his sentence out of his statement-- "it's time to wrap it up BEFORE YOU FIND SOLID EVIDENCE AGAINST ME" Good one!
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 5:39:51 GMT
Chris Lu....
“WH COS John Kelly says that immigrants from rural areas without English skills don’t integrate into the U.S.
My dad came from rural China and spoke little English. He raised a son who held the same rank in the Obama WH (Asst. to the Pres.) that Kelly holds. I’d say we did okay.”
Oops.
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Post by lucyg on May 11, 2018 6:17:14 GMT
Kelly's a bigot. He's made it pretty clear. Just what we need guiding an impressionable president.
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Post by imsirius on May 11, 2018 12:37:40 GMT
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Post by imsirius on May 11, 2018 12:46:57 GMT
This is what Trump is doing to the US. They aren't even hiding it anymore.
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Post by ajsweetpea on May 11, 2018 12:51:16 GMT
This pretty much explains it all...
(CNN)In the very early hours of Thursday morning, President Donald Trump traveled to Andrews Air Force Base in order to personally greet the three American prisoners released by North Korea as they landed back in the United States.
It was the sort of thing presidents do. When they score a major accomplishment -- and this release is certainly a big deal -- they make sure people know about it. Trump isn't the first president to do it and he won't be the last.
But even in this most traditional of presidential photo ops/credit takings, Trump found a way to reveal just how different he is than anyone who has held the office before him.
As he wrapped up his brief remarks beside the three former prisoners, Trump said this (bolding is mine):
"I want to thank you all. It's very early in the morning. I think you probably broke the all time in history television rating for three o'clock in the morning. That I would say."
It is 3 a.m. Trump is standing beside a trio of men who have been held captive in an authoritarian regime for months and, in some cases, years. And he talks about how many people must be watching on TV.
It's a reminder of just how much reality TV -- and TV more generally -- serves as the most useful lens through which to look when you are trying to understand the Trump presidency.
All modern presidents have been aware that their every movement and pronouncement is being recorded, played back and analyzed to death. None -- not one -- have consumed more of the coverage of themselves than Trump. Television is his near-constant companion -- he uses it to get policy ideas, to judge how his presidency is playing and even to find new enemies to attack.
To Trump, good ratings mean success. It's that simple. If people are watching you, you are winning. It's a uniquely reality TV way of thinking -- and one that would fit comfortably as a life mantra for, say, Kim Kardashian or Jake Paul.
Failure is not having people judge you poorly. Failure is not being interesting enough to have them judge you.
Trump's obsessions with ratings is nothing new; a search through the invaluable Trump Twitter Archive produces 263 separate tweets in which he mentions the word "ratings."
As far back as May 2010, Trump was tweeting about his great ratings: "The ratings for the Celebrity Apprentice were fantastic and everyone had a great time. It was a terrific season -- congrats to everyone!"
And even when he transformed from reality TV star to presidential candidate, Trump's focus on ratings never wavered.
"Congratulations to @seanhannity on his tremendous increase in television ratings," Trump tweeted in May 2016. "Speaking of ratings- I will be on his show tonight @ 10pE."
Some expected Trump to change -- or act more presidential -- when he became, um, President. Nope!
"Wow, television ratings just out: 31 million people watched the Inauguration, 11 million more than the very good ratings from 4 years ago," Trump tweeted two days after becoming President.
What's remarkable about all of this is that Trump doesn't seem to distinguish between talking about ratings for a TV show, ratings for his inauguration or ratings for the arrival of former prisoners of the North Korean regime.
It's all ratings to him. And good ratings are something to be proud of, to talk about. People are interested in you, he was telling the three newly-released prisoners. There's a lot of good buzz out there about you! You are going to do great!
That is Trump. He sees himself only as people see him. If people are interested in him -- and ratings are how he judges that -- then he must be doing something right.
Don't overthink it. It's that simple.
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Post by casii on May 11, 2018 14:16:14 GMT
This is what Trump is doing to the US. They aren't even hiding it anymore. I called the Warsaw County police about this and I'm pretty sure a lot of other people have as well. Someone posted a photo of the entire police department. That officer is massive compared to everyone else. He needs to go.
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Post by peatlejuice on May 11, 2018 14:38:56 GMT
This is what Trump is doing to the US. They aren't even hiding it anymore. I called the Warsaw County police about this and I'm pretty sure a lot of other people have as well. Someone posted a photo of the entire police department. That officer is massive compared to everyone else. He needs to go. What did the Warsaw police have to say when you called? I saw they disabled their Facebook page.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 14:39:30 GMT
The Hill...
“Kelly: Trump is "embarrassed" by Russia probe hill.cm/64kkwaw”
And as one person responded to this tweet “and we are embarrassed by him”.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 15:01:45 GMT
David Axelrod...
.If this @potus actually showed any real understanding of, or interest in, the policies he’s reflexively trying to reverse, it would be one thing. But he couldn’t 2 carry on a 5 min discussion on the subtance. I mean, “@barackobama did it so it sucks” is a foolish way to govern!”
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“But, in fairness, Obama-bashing plays well in @potus ‘s base, which appears to be his singular focus.”
I agree with this but with the one change I made above. And that’s being generous.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 16:03:04 GMT
Kyle Griffin....
“Mueller’s team has questioned several witnesses about millions of dollars in donations to Trump’s inauguration committee last year, including questions about donors with connections to Russia, Saudi Arabia, the U.A.E. and Qatar, sources tell ABC News.”
The other question no one can get an answer to is what did the inauguration committee do with the left over money which was reported to be several million dollars. ($10M+)
Everything around trump smacks of some form of corruption.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 16:15:05 GMT
David Frum...,
“On what basis does a president who mocked tortured POWs, mocked the mothers of slain soldiers, and mocked reporters living with disabilities fire an aide for mocking terminal cancer?”
It’s this kind of people we have as the face of this country.
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Post by used2scrap on May 11, 2018 17:36:44 GMT
Regarding the Warsaw police officer choking incident: www.witn.com/content/news/Video-shows-teen-in-prom-attire-choked-by-Warsaw-police-officer-482230161.htmlWARSAW, N.C. (WITN) .The State Bureau of Investigation is now looking into whether an Eastern Carolina police officer used appropriate force when he arrested a black man Friday night. Duplin County District Attorney Ernie Lee says he and Warsaw Police Chief Eric Southerland have both requested the SBI look into the arrest of Anthony Wall of Fayetteville. It happened at the Waffle House in Warsaw. The 22-year-old Wall was eventually arrested for disorderly conduct in a public building and resisting a public officer, both misdemeanors. Wall says he had just taken his younger sister to the prom and got into an argument with employees inside the restaurant. A video shows the police officer putting his right hand on Wall’s throat. Wall appears to resist the officer in the video and eventually, the officer takes the man to the ground. “I was pretty much trying to scream for air and to breathe because he was poking my throat so that I pretty much gasp when I got aggressive with him,” said Wall. The NAACP Legal Defense Fund called Wall’s arrest “a violent police takedown”. “We’re once again outraged by a video showing police officers using excessive force on an unarmed, non-violent African-American Waffle House customer,” said Sherrilyn Ifill, president of the NAACP LDF. “Once again this incident was sparked when a Waffle House employee called the police after the patron allegedly complained about customer service. And once again the police responded with violence.” In Tarboro today, Governor Roy Cooper said he hasn't seen the video, but agreed that the SBI should look into the arrest. Wall was released into his mother’s custody, according to the district attorney, and has a June 7th court date.
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Post by casii on May 11, 2018 17:38:49 GMT
I called the Warsaw County police about this and I'm pretty sure a lot of other people have as well. Someone posted a photo of the entire police department. That officer is massive compared to everyone else. He needs to go. What did the Warsaw police have to say when you called? I saw they disabled their Facebook page. I got sent to a message saying they would be open at 7:30. It was after 8.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 18:03:59 GMT
The AtlanticSomething to ponder or are we about to commit the same deadly mistakes from our past from the Atlantic. “Iran Hawks Are the New Iraq Hawks” Part One.
From the article.... “Many of the assumptions that guided America’s march to conflict in 2003 still dominate American foreign policy today. “ Last week, while watching Benjamin Netanyahu unveil secret information that supposedly proved that Iran is deceiving the world about its nuclear-weapons program, I had a flashback. It was to February 5, 2003, when then-Secretary of State Colin Powell unveiled secret information that supposedly proved that Iraq was deceiving the world about its nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons programs. Like Netanyahu’s, Powell’s presentation was dramatic. He informed the United Nations Security Council that some of the material he was about to present came from “people who have risked their lives to let the world know what Saddam Hussein is really up to.” He went on to play a secretly recorded conversation of two Iraqi officials supposedly plotting to mislead weapons inspectors. He later presented a photo of bunkers that allegedly held “active chemical munitions” but were “clean when the inspectors get there.” Saddam, Powell insisted, wants “to give those [of] us on this Council the false impression that the inspection process was working.” Powell’s presentation was designed to prove that it was not. The parallels between that moment and this one are uncanny. In both cases, American leaders feared that a longtime Middle Eastern adversary was breaking free of the fetters that had previously restrained it. In both cases, American leaders pursued a more confrontational policy, which they buttressed with frightening statements about the regime’s nuclear program. In both cases, international inspectors contradicted those alarmist claims. In both cases, America’s European allies defended the inspectors and warned of the chaos America’s confrontational policy might bring. In both cases, hawks in America and Israel responded by trying to discredit the inspection regime. And in both cases, two leaders of that effort were John Bolton and Benjamin Netanyahu. Obviously, there are differences between then and now. In 2003, the United States government wanted war. Today, it wants to undo a diplomatic agreement. In 2003, the Israeli government (as opposed to Netanyahu, who was then a private citizen) was wary of America’s confrontational policy. Today, the Israeli government is aggressively lobbying for it. But while history is not repeating itself, it is rhyming in remarkable ways. Which raises a disturbing question: How is it possible—15 years after the launch of one the greatest catastrophes in American history—that so many of the assumptions that guided America’s march to war in Iraq still dominate American foreign policy today?
Answering that question requires remembering the history that Netanyahu, Bolton, and their political and journalistic allies would likely prefer that Americans forget. Powell’s presentation constituted a key moment in the struggle between the Bush administration and international weapons inspectors. President George W. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had taken office convinced that Saddam Hussein—who had spent most of the 1990s subjected to international sanctions and weapons inspections—was breaking free of the constraints that kept him from rebuilding his weapons programs and menacing his neighbors. The sanctions regime was fraying. Inspectors had left Iraq in 1998 after Saddam restricted their access. The answer, they concluded, was regime change. Empowered by the belligerent public mood following 9/11, and America’s apparent success in toppling the Taliban in Afghanistan, the Bush administration in 2002 turned to that goal. Cheney worried that sending weapons inspectors back into Iraq would complicate the path to war. “Saddam,” he warned in August, “has perfected the game of cheat and retreat, and is very skilled in the art of denial and deception. A return of inspectors would provide no assurance whatsoever of his compliance with UN resolutions.” Netanyahu, no longer in government after having lost his bid for reelection as Israeli prime minister, agreed. “It is not very difficult,” he testified to Congress that September, “to deceive inspectors.” In a Wall Street Journal op-ed later that month, he warned that because Saddam had constructed “centrifuges the size of washing machines … even free and unfettered inspections will not uncover these portable manufacturing sites of mass death.” But under pressure from British Prime Minister Tony Blair to seek United Nations support, Bush in November procured a Security Council resolution demanding that Iraq allow “immediate, unimpeded, unconditional, and unrestricted access” to international weapons inspectors or face “serious consequences.” And late that month, two groups of inspectors—one from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which focused on Saddam’s nuclear program, and another, called UNMOVIC, which focused on his chemical and biological programs—returned to Iraq. What followed was an extraordinary diplomatic drama. Germany and France tried to help the inspectors verify whether Saddam was pursing weapons of mass destruction. The Bush administration, eager for war, insisted they could not. On December 21, the inspectors issued their first report. While criticizing Saddam for not being more transparent about his past activities, they claimed to be making progress. The IAEA said it had conducted 68 inspections. UNMOVIC reported that it had visited 44 sites. But the Bush administration, which had begun deploying troops and weaponry to the Persian Gulf, was already getting impatient. The inspectors’ second report was due on January 27. On January 9, John Bolton—a Cheney ally who before joining the Bush administration had attacked the “discredited idea that U.N. weapons inspectors can eliminate Iraq’s ability to produce weapons of mass destruction”— declared that “There’s no doubt if [the inspectors] had enough people in Iraq, if they had enough facilities, that they would find the hidden weapons of mass-destruction production facilities and dual-use items that Iraqis still possess. If they’re not able to do that by the 27th, then we’ll have to take that into account.” In other words, if inspectors don’t find the WMD by January 27th, they will have proved themselves useless. Privately, Bush was blunter: “The inspections are not getting us there.” On January 27, Hans Blix—the Swedish diplomat who led UNMOVIC—reported that his inspectors had visited more than 230 sites and should be able to verify Iraq’s disarmament “within a reasonable time.” Mohamed ElBaradei—the Egyptian official who led the IAEA—said his inspectors had visited 109 sites. “We have to date found no evidence that Iraq has revived its nuclear-weapons programme,” he declared, and promised that “we should be able within the next few months to provide credible assurance that Iraq has no nuclear-weapons programme.” Irate, Bush told Powell—the most internationally esteemed member of his national-security team—to publicly undermine the inspectors’ reports and prove that Saddam was still pursuing WMD. But even after Powell’s dramatic, 75-minute UN speech, the inspectors and their European defenders held firm. In his next report, on February 14, Blix rebutted Powell’s claim that Iraq was moving its WMD before inspectors arrived. “All inspections were performed without notice,” he explained, “and access was almost always provided promptly.” ElBaradei reiterated that, “We have to date found no evidence of ongoing prohibited nuclear-related activities in Iraq.” On March 5, Germany, France, and Russia issued a joint statement declaring that they “resolutely support Messrs Blix and El Baradei” and “observe that these inspections are producing increasingly encouraging results.” Bush had had enough. On March 17, in a primetime speech, he told the American people that the inspectors had been “systematically deceived.” American intelligence, he insisted, “leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.” Two days later, America invaded Iraq. There’s a postscript to this story. In late 2004, a year and a half after the Iraq War began, ElBaradei—who would soon win the Nobel Peace Prize for his work leading the IAEA—learned that the Bush administration was trying to deny him a third term as head of the Agency. In its effort to find incriminating information, the United States even tapped ElBaradei’s phone. The effort’s ringleader: John Bolton. In his memoir, ElBaradei accuses Bolton, who had “consistently worked behind the scenes to discredit the IAEA,” of having “launched a campaign to block my reappointment.” But by late 2004, the focus of Bolton’s ire had changed. He was no longer attacking ElBaradei and the IAEA for ignoring Baghdad’s nuclear ambitions. He was attacking them for ignoring Tehran’s. ElBaradei, Bolton declared in 2007, after leaving the Bush administration, was “an apologist for Iran.” Fast forward 11 years. Bolton is back in government as Donald Trump’s national-security adviser. Netanyahu is again Israel’s prime minister. And they are making the same arguments about the futility of the international inspections regime in Iran that they once made about the futility of the international inspections regime in Iraq.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 18:15:20 GMT
Iran Hawks Are the New Iraq Hawks” Part Two
Their argument begins, once again, with the claim that a fearsome adversary is breaking free of the constraints that previously held it in check. In the run-up to the Iraq War, Bolton warned that because of weakening international sanctions and a feckless Clinton administration, Saddam “represents a serious and growing security threat.” Earlier this month, Netanyahu’s Ambassador to the United States, Ron Dermer, declared that, “as all the sanctions were removed, as all the money has flowed into Iran” because of the nuclear deal, “now you see Iran marching through the Middle East.” Bolton last year claimed that, “Tehran is trying to cement an arc of control from its own territory, through Baghdad-controlled Iraq and Mr. Assad’s Syria, to Hezbollah-dominated Lebanon.” The irony, which neither Netanyahu nor Bolton acknowledge, is that Iran’s growing regional strength stems in large measure from the Iraq War they championed, which turned Iraq from a bulwark against Iranian power into a close Iranian ally.
As with Iraq, Bolton and Netanyahu want the United States to meet this supposedly growing threat with a more confrontational policy. Key to that policy shift is withdrawing from the 2015 nuclear deal, which would leave the U.S. free to reimpose sanctions, and perhaps, as Bolton has suggested, even bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities.
And, as with Iraq, it’s easier for Bolton and Netanyahu to achieve that goal if they discredit the current system of international inspections. Bolton has called the inspection efforts established by the Iran nuclear deal “fatally inadequate” and declared that “the International Atomic Energy Agency” is “likely missing significant Iranian [nuclear] facilities.” In his 2015 speech to Congress attacking the Iran deal, Netanyahu insisted that “Iran not only defies inspectors, it also plays a pretty good game of hide-and-cheat with them.”
Netanyahu and Bolton’s problem, as with Iraq, is that the inspectors don’t think they’re being cheated. ElBaradei’s successor as director general of the IAEA, Yukiya Amano, has said his organization “now has the world’s most robust verification regime in place in Iran.” The IAEA has certified Iran’s compliance with the nuclear deal nine times. And, as in 2003, key European governments are defending the inspectors. Earlier this month, the French Foreign Ministry called the inspection effort in Iran “one of the most exhaustive and robust regimes in the history of nuclear nonproliferation.”
That’s the narrative that Netanyahu—like Powell in 2003—went before the cameras last week to undermine. Like Powell, Netanyahu claimed the weapons inspectors had been duped. Israeli intelligence, he declared, had found “new and conclusive proof” that Iran “didn’t come clean to the IAEA, as required by the nuclear deal.” After Netanyahu’s presentation, Dermer—who can be seen sitting behind Netanyahu in 2002 as Netanyahu testified to Congress about the inadequacy of weapons inspections in Iraq—told CNN’s Erin Burnett that, “The inspections regime in Iran, Erin, is a joke.”
Netanyahu is likely right that Iran hasn’t “come clean” to the IAEA about its past nuclear activities. In 2002, Hans Blix said much the same about Iraq’s incomplete statements about its past WMD programs. But now, as then, inspectors deny that evasion about past nuclear activities equals evasion about current nuclear activities. In fact, international inspectors responded to Netanyahu’s presentation much as they had to Powell’s: By denying that the information constituted anything particularly new.
They’re right. Just as the Bush administration could not prove that Iraq was still pursuing a nuclear-weapons program in 2003, the Netanyahu and Trump administrations cannot prove that Iran is pursuing one today. So, like the Bush administration, they keep shading the truth.
In his presentation last week, Netanyahu cited a secret Iranian nuclear program called Project Amad (which the IAEA had reported on in 2011). The project had been shuttered, he claimed, but “today, in 2018, this work is carried out by SPND, that’s an organization inside Iran’s Defense Ministry.” The implication is that Iran’s nuclear-weapons project continues; all that has changed is its name. But Netanyahu offered no evidence of that. And in the materials his aides distributed to journalists, the present tense was removed.
Similarly, Bolton has repeatedly declared—despite the IAEA’s findings and without proof—that Iran is still actively seeking nuclear weapons. Last September, he said, “Iran’s program continues unhindered.” This March, he spoke about Iran’s “continued effort to get deliverable nuclear weapons.” Which helps explain why the Trump administration keeps suggesting the same thing. After Netanyahu’s presentation, the White House issued a statement declaring that “Iran has a robust, clandestine nuclear-weapons program.” It later changed “has” to “had,” but Trump himself keeps using the present tense. Asked about Netanyahu’s presentation, he declared, “I’ve been saying it’s happening. They’re not sitting back idly.”
How is this possible? How is it possible that Trump—who during the presidential campaign boasted about his supposed opposition to the Iraq War—has now embraced an outlook so similar to the one that guided Bush in 2002 and 2003? How can Bolton and Netanyahu remain unrepentant about their role in promoting war with Iraq and yet be taken seriously when they make similar arguments about the supposed nuclear threat from Iran? Why can’t America learn from its recent past?
There’s no single answer. Part of the explanation is partisanship. Politics is today such a team sport that people often downplay or overlook even the grossest offenses by their own side. More than 60 percent of Republicans, according to a March Pew Research Poll, think the United States was right to invade Iraq. George W. Bush’s approval rating among Republicans, according to a January CNN poll, is 76 percent. I suspect that those numbers reflect tribal loyalty more than any considered judgment about the war’s impact. But they make it easy for Republican officials to claim, as Bolton does, that the real mistake wasn’t Bush’s decision to send troops to Iraq but Obama’s decision to withdraw them. Since many Republicans won’t even admit the Iraq war was wrong, it’s hard to apply its lessons to the current debate over Iran. It’s particularly hard since doing so would mean admitting not only that Bush was wrong in waging war with Iraq but that Obama was right in striking a deal with Iran. When was the last time you heard Trump admit that Obama was right about anything?
The second reason Bolton and Netanyahu can so easily recycle the arguments they made about Iraq in the current debate about Iran is the influence of pro-Israel sentiment in American foreign-policy debate. Whether you believe that sentiment is the result of organized lobbying groups, both Jewish and non-Jewish, or a deep-seated public affinity for the Jewish state (I think it’s a mixture of both), the fervent commitment to Israel’s security creates a natural constituency for any hardline stance against Israel’s greatest adversary, Iran. More than any foreign leader except perhaps the prime minister of Britain, an Israeli prime minister enters America’s foreign-policy debates with a reservoir of goodwill that makes him hard to discount, no matter how wrong he’s been in the past.
The third reason for America’s inability to apply the lessons of Iraq to the current debate over Iran is the media, especially television. It’s rare to see non-Americans on political talk shows. That matters because non-Americans overwhelmingly think pulling out of the Iran deal is nuts. And non-Americans are more likely to raise fundamental questions about American nuclear policy—like why America isn’t pushing for inspections of Israel’s nuclear program, and why America keeps demanding that other nations denuclearize while building ever more nuclear weapons of its own. A more international foreign-policy debate would help Americans to see how insular, self-interested, and hypocritical Bolton and Netanyahu’s views actually are. It might also expose Americans to some of the experts who understand nuclear inspections best. When was the last time you saw Mohamed ElBaradei, Hans Blix, or Yukio Amano on cable?
Television interview shows also focus obsessively on the news of the moment. When Bolton or Netanyahu go on a Sunday show to peddle their current views on Iran, they can be confident they won’t be questioned much about their past views on Iraq. Thus, viewers hear arguments that sound reasonable in isolation without realizing that they’ve already proved disastrous in practice.
I’m not suggesting that political talk shows only book politicians and pundits who’s past predictions have been proven right. (Since I myself supported the Iraq War, I’d fail that test myself.) I’m suggesting that they ask politicians and pundits to reflect on what they’ve learned. If they merely did that, Bolton and Netanyahu’s current arguments about Iran would sound very different than they do now.
It would be comforting to believe that those arguments, which once helped lead to tragedy, are returning merely as farce. But they’re not. Withdrawing from the nuclear deal could easily put the United States or Israel, or both, on the path to war with Iran. As long as John Bolton and Benjamin Netanyahu retain their current influence, another Middle Eastern war is entirely possible. Where it might lead is anyone’s guess. The greatest current threat to American national security is not Iran, North Korea, or ISIS. It’s amnesia. And Americans need a strategy to fight it.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 18:25:18 GMT
Barf - DS1 informed me that Pence is coming to our town tomorrow. (My city has one of the few airstrips that can support Air Force 1 in the area) and they want a band there to play. Their school got picked. ![(puke)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sick.png) Out of the 5 schools they could've picked, why ours? Why not the private Christian one? Judging by his text to me, it's voluntary. I said no, but if he wants to, I'll take him. He said he doesn't like Pence or Trump but the experience might be interesting. ETA woot! Not enough notice was given for paperwork for the secret service so no band. Thank God.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 18:53:49 GMT
The Hill....
“Kelly says separating families at the border isn't cruel: "The children will be taken care of — put into foster care or whatever" hill.cm/fI9dq6F”
“Isn’t cruel.” ”Or whatever”. Really? What a first class asshole.
It would appear being an asshole is the top requirement needed to work in the trump administration.
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Post by jayfab on May 11, 2018 19:02:36 GMT
The Hill.... “Kelly says separating families at the border isn't cruel: "The children will be taken care of — put into foster care or whatever" hill.cm/fI9dq6F” “Isn’t cruel.” ”Or whatever”. Really? What a first class asshole. It would appear being an asshole is the top requirement needed to work in the trump administration. OMG, not cruel? What planet is he on? Tell that to the kids you mofo.
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