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Post by Judy26 on May 3, 2018 21:31:25 GMT
My father needed a triple bypass at 86. For the past 3 weeks I have been the caretaker for both him and my mother. I stayed with my mom for the week my father was hospitalized before the surgery. I stayed in a hotel with my mom for 3 nights while he was in intensive care. During this time I took her to the ER when she developed a painful cyst that needed lanced. I stayed with my dad for 5 days while he was in the post op ward and then drove him home. I stayed with my parents for 10 days while he recovered. During this entire time my dad was a joy to care for and be with.
My mother on the other hand is a control freak. She tells everyone how to do everything down to the last detail and argues and nags until she gets her way. In the past 3 weeks I have learned I tie my shoes wrong, I used the wrong scoop to put coffee in the coffee maker, I don’t vacuum correctly, and on and on.
I am am home for a couple of days but will return on Sunday for my next stint at How To Do Everything Wrong. For those of you who have parented parents, do you have any tips (other than alcohol) on how to deal with the ultimate control freak? I am at my wits end.
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Post by papersilly on May 3, 2018 21:50:42 GMT
my mom was the ultimate control freak too. i never understood it then, but i understand it now. control gave her a sense of order. being able to control something made up for circumstances she couldn't control. it drove us all nuts but it was her way. i know because i am now a control freak. i get that same sense of order from it. trust me, i wish i wasn't that way.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 22:07:33 GMT
Her house, her rules
Your house,your rules.
Hotel, let somebody else take care of it.
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Post by librarylady on May 3, 2018 22:13:44 GMT
I doubt it will stop her but you might try the technique of asking her how to do EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING. It makes the control freak realize how silly it all is. Example--ask your mother about EVERYTHING before doing it. Mom: what clothes should I wear today? What about underwear, is this the best one? Make up: Mom, I want to use this foundation, what do you think? etc.etc. When you get to the kitchen, don't do a damn thing without asking==Is this the coffee you want? How should I measure it? How many cups?
You will be worn to a frazzle with the asking and she will be worn down with the answer. MAYBE by the second day she will back off or tell you to do it without asking her!
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Post by scrapngranny on May 3, 2018 22:25:40 GMT
Just say, I might be doing it wrong, but I’m way too old to change my ways now.
If your care giving is semi short term, grin and bear it. If you see that it will last until they have to go to a facility or pass away, you are going to have to set some boundaries. If she must make coffee a certain, let her make the coffe, as long as she is able. Becoming a parent to your parents is one of the toughest jobs ever. The old saying of, live long enough to be a problem to your children, rings true.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 22:30:30 GMT
Gives you a whole new perspective of what it's like for your Dad. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/Q_m8lDOvc_3Le3r1GKdf.jpg) Do you think she's being this way due to the stress of worrying about your Dad....like telling you what to do is the one thing she feels she can control?
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Post by bwife on May 3, 2018 23:06:41 GMT
THIS is why I am THANKFUL that my parents have $$. We will be able to hire someone when the help is needed, we are not there yet. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/Q_m8lDOvc_3Le3r1GKdf.jpg) I dont think I could handle my mom for more than a few days straight. its gotten so much worse since she has gotten older. ugh. I feel for you. Just try to take a deep breath and go outside as often as you can for a break!
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Post by miranda on May 3, 2018 23:11:52 GMT
I'm not sure there are any good tips for dealing with this. Can you take breaks, get out in the afternoons to just get a break from things?
My Mom is the same way and i'm not sure I wouldn't be insane dealing with it so much. I hope at least you can get some you time every day and at least get out to regroup for a bit.
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Post by Judy26 on May 3, 2018 23:20:44 GMT
Gives you a whole new perspective of what it's like for your Dad. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/Q_m8lDOvc_3Le3r1GKdf.jpg) Do you think she's being this way due to the stress of worrying about your Dad....like telling you what to do is the one thing she feels she can control? OMG! This exactly. I do not know how he puts up with it. I love my mom dearly. She has a heart of gold and I know the stress of this is difficult for her. She has always been a large and in charge personality but it has definitely gotten worse with age. Today she wanted to push my father’s wheelchair when we took him for some tests. There was a slight incline and she can barely walk herself. She flipped out on me for doing it but if I had let her she would have been knocked down by the chair rolling backwards. I am am trying to be patient. So far I have tried to comply with her wishes unless it seems dangerous for her or my dad. But I definitely am getting payback for any trouble I ever gave them when I was a child.
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on May 3, 2018 23:22:05 GMT
I would love to help you mom, but I am not going to do X if you keep criticizing the way I do it. Tell me specifically what I can do for you, that I can do without instruction. Otherwise, I am not going to help at all and I will be going to a hotel/home/deserted island.
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Post by nlwilkins on May 3, 2018 23:23:25 GMT
Laugh - that is my way of dealing with it. Every time you are told you have done something wrong, laugh at yourself, at her, at the circumstances. You start to do something and she tells you how to do it, laugh and perhaps say you wondered how long it would take for her to tell you how to do it. Or you might laugh and wonder how you managed all these years without her telling you how to do things. Perhaps, she might begin to see how ridiculous she is being. Plus the laughter releases the tension the criticism creates.
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Post by peasapie on May 3, 2018 23:35:33 GMT
I wish I knew. My former MIL was like this and it drove me nuts.
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Post by moodyblue on May 4, 2018 0:02:42 GMT
my mom was the ultimate control freak too. i never understood it then, but i understand it now. control gave her a sense of order. being able to control something made up for circumstances she couldn't control. it drove us all nuts but it was her way. i know because i am now a control freak. i get that same sense of order from it. trust me, i wish i wasn't that way. This was my first thought too. It's hard to feel like you are not in control, and with your dad's health challenges, her own, and their advancing age, she may be feeling very vulnerable right now. And she may not consciously recognize it. Her behavior is her way of exercising what control she can, or at least getting the illusion that she can control something.
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Post by Judy26 on May 4, 2018 0:41:32 GMT
my mom was the ultimate control freak too. i never understood it then, but i understand it now. control gave her a sense of order. being able to control something made up for circumstances she couldn't control. it drove us all nuts but it was her way. i know because i am now a control freak. i get that same sense of order from it. trust me, i wish i wasn't that way. This was my first thought too. It's hard to feel like you are not in control, and with your dad's health challenges, her own, and their advancing age, she may be feeling very vulnerable right now. And she may not consciously recognize it. Her behavior is her way of exercising what control she can, or at least getting the illusion that she can control something. This is so very true and I am trying to remain cognizant of this as I deal with her. She has always been quite abrasive and it is now difficult to have any discussion with her. I am torn because in many instances she is insisting on doing things that are making my father’s recovery more difficult. He just wants her to be happy so he goes along with whatever she says. The whole situation is breaking my heart and raising my blood pressure all at the same time.
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Post by 950nancy on May 4, 2018 0:56:53 GMT
I'd either laugh it off (to her face) or I would tell her that it is really annoying and then remind her every time she did it. She probably has no idea she is doing it. Just say, "Mom, stop. I know how to tie my shoes." Perhaps give her a break on the vacuuming to really personal things to her house. I do not envy you.
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Post by mom on May 4, 2018 1:12:44 GMT
my mom was the ultimate control freak too. i never understood it then, but i understand it now. control gave her a sense of order. being able to control something made up for circumstances she couldn't control. it drove us all nuts but it was her way. i know because i am now a control freak. i get that same sense of order from it. trust me, i wish i wasn't that way. I was gonna type the same thing out. When there are things I cannot control going spinning out of control, my control freak comes out. I hate it. I know I am doing it (most of the time) but it is the only thing that calms me. It sucks. Edited: I have trained myself to recognize when its happening. It took years of counseling, but now I can meditate when it spirals out of control and find some peace that way.
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Post by Gravity on May 4, 2018 1:24:15 GMT
I'm about to be in your shoes. My dad needs aortic valve replacement. I accompanied him and my mom to the hospital yesterday for tests and to meet with the surgeons. We were sent to the wrong building for one of the tests and my mom turned into a rabid screeching lunatic. I know it was because she is scared and worried about my dad, but wow.
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Post by gramma on May 4, 2018 1:26:21 GMT
I thought parenting toddlers was hard until I parented teenagers. I thought parenting teenagers was hard until I found myself parenting adults. I thought that was hard until I "parented" my parents. Like others have said she can't control what's happening so she is reverting to controlling you. She knows how to do that. If you can find some humor in the situation you'll feel better.
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Post by annaintx on May 4, 2018 1:34:44 GMT
I doubt it will stop her but you might try the technique of asking her how to do EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING. It makes the control freak realize how silly it all is. Example--ask your mother about EVERYTHING before doing it. Mom: what clothes should I wear today? What about underwear, is this the best one? Make up: Mom, I want to use this foundation, what do you think? etc.etc. When you get to the kitchen, don't do a damn thing without asking==Is this the coffee you want? How should I measure it? How many cups? You will be worn to a frazzle with the asking and she will be worn down with the answer. MAYBE by the second day she will back off or tell you to do it without asking her! That would be a very interesting social experiment. I have nothing to add but I feel for you and I wish you luck with it. You are a wonderful daughter taking care of your parents.
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Post by papersilly on May 4, 2018 1:58:57 GMT
my mom was the ultimate control freak too. i never understood it then, but i understand it now. control gave her a sense of order. being able to control something made up for circumstances she couldn't control. it drove us all nuts but it was her way. i know because i am now a control freak. i get that same sense of order from it. trust me, i wish i wasn't that way. I was gonna type the same thing out. When there are things I cannot control going spinning out of control, my control freak comes out. I hate it. I know I am doing it (most of the time) but it is the only thing that calms me. It sucks. Edited: I have trained myself to recognize when its happening. It took years of counseling, but now I can meditate when it spirals out of control and find some peace that way. Yup, recognizing why I am a control freak was huge. It still drives DH bonkers but he knows I'm just self soothing. He, too, has learned to recognize how and when my sense of order has been restored. Lol
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Post by anniebygaslight on May 4, 2018 9:47:52 GMT
Tell her that you are doing it your way, or she can pay for help to come in, and you can go home to your family.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on May 4, 2018 10:08:08 GMT
I would try and have a conversation with her about it. She probably doesnt even realize she's doing it.
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Post by mikklynn on May 4, 2018 12:33:36 GMT
Both my parents had pneumonia recently. My mother stood over me as I mopped her floor. I knew she would. She's very pleasant and sweet, but I've learned to just do whatever she wants.
My dad is even worse. I try to remember it's difficult to lose your ability to be independent.
It's not easy, sister!
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Post by warrior1991 on May 4, 2018 13:14:53 GMT
My parents live with me due to low retirement income and can't afford their own place. They are still independent and can take care of themselves, but I dread the day my Dad can't drive anymore.
My mom (age 70) is not controlling at all, but we have conversations a lot about how towels should be folded, which pillow should be on the left side of the couch and which one is on the right. Most of it with her is a fun way to tease me, which doesn't bother me, but occasionally I do have to remind her "different doesn't make it wrong".
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Post by likescarrots on May 4, 2018 13:40:02 GMT
Her house, her rules Your house,your rules. Hotel, let somebody else take care of it. sorry but I disagree with this when adult children are helping out their parents. If my mom said this to me while I was staying with her to help out, I would pack up and get back to my house at warp speed.
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Post by mallie on May 4, 2018 14:17:15 GMT
MY MIL was like that. Nothing you did or said made any difference to her bahavaior. She was like that on her death bed -- no lie, on her death bed, she was telling her daughter how to fold a towel.
I was the only one it didn't really bother because long ago, I just started to laugh at her and do it my own way. I laughed at her every time. Most of the time, that meant she left me alone. If she chose to redo it "her" way later on, that's her time wasting, not mine.
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Post by anniebygaslight on May 4, 2018 14:28:04 GMT
Her house, her rules Your house,your rules. Hotel, let somebody else take care of it. sorry but I disagree with this when adult children are helping out their parents. If my mom said this to me while I was staying with her to help out, I would pack up and get back to my house at warp speed. Me too.
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Post by bethany102399 on May 4, 2018 15:08:54 GMT
We were sent to the wrong building for one of the tests and my mom turned into a rabid screeching lunatic. I know it was because she is scared and worried about my dad, but wow. Yep, BTDT with my mom and dealing with dad's cancer and numerous doc appts/ waiting rooms/hospital stays. It never changed. She was shaped by an experience when I was in middle school where in her mind, the doctors lied, therefore ANY surgery from the major ones involving the cancer in his lungs to the minor by comparison torn rotator cuff to her, he was not safe until she could see him in recovery. I would watch her eviscerate the poor nurses who had to deal with her. When my youngest was born and had complications resulting in him having to be transferred to the local children's hospital she became totally irrational and we quickly learned we could not count on her for help with our older daughter. Honestly a part of me still hasn't forgiven her for what she refused to do when we desperately needed help. As she has gotten older and started experiencing her own health issues it's only gotten worse. Now the doctors and nurses are lying to her about her own heath, and she trusts no one. Sorry OP, went off on a bit of a rant there. I would say as much as you can, try and do it the way she wants. She's scared and taking it out on you. I'm sorry I really have BTDT and it just sucks.
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Post by Judy26 on May 4, 2018 16:36:25 GMT
Thanks so much for all of the support and affirmation. This is so difficult because my parents are such wonderful people and my siblings and I wouldn’t dream of doing anything to make them feel less independent but getting my mom to admit she needs help is impossible. For all of you that have or are dealing with this, my heart goes out to you.
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Post by gramma on May 4, 2018 17:37:21 GMT
At the end of the day - even if it is a very long and frustrating day - she loves you. As I age I find that there are things that I just can't do or can't do as well as I used to. It's frightening to consider what is in my future. It took me a long time to become independent and I will fight like hell to stay that way.
When my mom was losing independence and her ability to do things she had always done it was frightening not only to her but to me. What the heck was happening to my mom? I wanted her to be my rock when she needed me to be hers.
It would break my heart to think that my daughter would walk away from me. Hang in there honey, as I said above, she loves you.
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