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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2018 5:18:33 GMT
"The lack of male spaces in our culture begins in the home, where a man is often forced to set up his "man cave" in the garage or the basement if he wants any space to himself in the home he owns and pays for."
Cuz in Matt's "complementary" world - only the MAN pays for the home and owns it.
Get that, ladies? None of your work (inside the home or outside) is in anyway part of helping to PAY FOR your house nor to OWN even a part of it. YOUR MANS OWN THE WHOLE HOUSE.
And having a dedicated recreation space that is down a WHOLE SLOGGING flight of stairs or on the other side of the laundry room is absolutely UNACCEPTABLE!
But Matt and his ilk long for the days of men in suits coming home to freshly baked bread and freshly bathed children, of whom they ask a few questions about school, before patting them on the head, and sending them off to bed after spending a whopping 10 minutes (!!) w/them - EXHAUSTING!
Yeah, that's the problem w/society - Not enough MALE spaces - like not the boardrooms, or the C-Suites, or the Congress or the State Houses, or the golf courses, or the .....
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used2scrap
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Post by used2scrap on May 16, 2018 5:22:25 GMT
How come the kitchen and laundry room aren’t male spaces?
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Post by papersilly on May 16, 2018 5:39:13 GMT
How come the kitchen and laundry room aren’t male spaces? Yeah! God forbid they familiarize themselves with those rooms and cozy up in there? Lol
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my3freaks
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Post by my3freaks on May 16, 2018 5:59:49 GMT
I was starting to roll my eyes at it until the "home he owns" part. Both our names are on the deed to our house, as I imagine is the case with the majority of married/partnered homeowners. What a tool.
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FurryP
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Post by FurryP on May 16, 2018 7:03:13 GMT
Well if the man owns the house, maybe he should clean it all by himself!
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RedSquirrelUK
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on May 16, 2018 9:22:43 GMT
Right from when we're little kids, we're taught to share, and to say please and thank you, and to have consideration for other people's needs in the home. At what point does the male assume that he has the right to opt out?
Having said that, most people need their own space sometimes. This guy is only voicing (OK, typing!) his feelings the same as tired mothers voice their wish to be allowed to pee uninterrupted.
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YooHoot
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Post by YooHoot on May 16, 2018 11:09:19 GMT
Well if my husband was more neat and organized he could have more spaces for his shit. But he's not, so we limit where he can spread his tools, toys and trinkets. So I don't mess with the 2 "rooms" that are technically his. His office and his garage. But the rest of the house has to be neat, tidy, clean and decorated pleasantly. It works for us. And we BOTH pay for this house.
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Post by scrapqueen01 on May 16, 2018 11:17:39 GMT
If the man owns and pays for the house himself then maybe he should live in it alone. He can decorate according to his likes, do his own laundry, cleaning, etc.
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Post by peasapie on May 16, 2018 11:34:01 GMT
Hey that's more space than I ever had for many, many years -- unless you count the bathroom. I took a LOT of baths...
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Nanner
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Post by Nanner on May 16, 2018 12:07:10 GMT
The house HE owns and paid for, huh?
The house we lived in for 20 years, until we moved last year, was bought by ME before I ever met him, using MY money as a down payment, and had MY furnishings in it. We both work and pay the bills in OUR house.
Such bullshit.
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Post by gryroagain on May 16, 2018 13:15:02 GMT
Gag. I hate Matt Walsh. I especially hate women I know who I kind of like who share his inane tweets and blogs and utterly fail to see what a misogynist a hole he is...I am always so disappointed.
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Post by mygigiscraps on May 16, 2018 13:27:08 GMT
Wow. His wife is just the luckiest woman in the whole wide world, isn't she? I'd turn his underwear inside out and roll it through poison ivy before folding it and putting it in his dresser.
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Post by mustlovecats on May 16, 2018 13:35:03 GMT
That guy is such a ducking asshole and so toxic.
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Post by Merge on May 16, 2018 13:38:30 GMT
Sounds like somebody got told to get his workout bag out of the middle of the living room floor and put his dirty clothes in the hamper ... again!
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Post by breetheflea on May 16, 2018 13:46:37 GMT
Poor DH and his 500 square foot garage all to himself. I get a corner in the dining room (which the kids throw their stuff all over) and at one point had a linen closet and the hallway floor for "my space". DH couldn't fit all his hobby stuff in half a linen closet if he got rid of 99% of it.
I actually crafted in the garage (with no heat or ac) and DH had the extra upstairs bedroom for his own stuff until we had more kids than available bedrooms, then moving suddenly became a priority.
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Post by jeremysgirl on May 16, 2018 14:20:01 GMT
In my opinion, a man is very lucky to have a man cave, just the same way a woman is very lucky to have a craft room. My DH has his tools and things that need storage. He is pretty much in charge of the shed and the room in our basement with the furnace. My craft space is in a corner of our living room. When our children grow up and move out, then hopefully both of us can spread out a little more and enjoy more hobby space in our house.
My DH is a very progressive man. He appreciates that I work and contribute to our household. And he was truly the most proud person at my graduation with a Master's degree. But recently I painted my kitchen. He weighed in, but he was a little worried about the orange color I picked out. He ended up liking it, but his comment was that he was glad I was happy with it because *I* spend more time in there and it's more important to me than it is to him. And I am wondering if there are just some differences between the sexes, the mindset of men and women, based on some of our self-defined roles in our families.
I'm not making a comment on whether or not I found the tweet in the OP sexist. But just saying, I think there are a lot of things in our life that we can either look at as sexist or we can accept that there are differences between the sexes. Maybe this man feels like his wife has boxed him out as far as the decorating in his home goes. Maybe he feels like a lot of women have taken on such a dominant role in their households that they don't consider their man's opinion when choosing things for their home. And I admit, I am very sensitive to this issue, because my ex didn't care what I did to the home. He didn't seek to give input at all. My current DH at first irritated me because he does care. It was a reality check for me. Maybe I pushed ex to the man cave without even realizing I did it.
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Post by likescarrots on May 16, 2018 14:34:29 GMT
This guy is only voicing (OK, typing!) his feelings the same as tired mothers voice their wish to be allowed to pee uninterrupted. But he literally says they already have TWO spaces in the home to do as they please. And it's not enough, he wants the whole thing. It is the epitome of male privilege.
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 16, 2018 14:55:12 GMT
Since I claimed the entire basement for my own space (and it’s huge, nice and finished) I can’t complain about the fact that there is a deer head and wildlife art hanging in the family room or a 9’ long sailfish on the wall of what would be most people’s formal living room. DH has claimed most of the four car garage for his tools and assorted other stuff that’s too grimy to live in the actual house and he’s perfectly fine with that arrangement. He also has an office in the house that is cluttered up with his work stuff and some dead fish on the walls. I’d say we’re about even.
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MaryMary
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Post by MaryMary on May 16, 2018 15:11:19 GMT
Gag. I hate Matt Walsh. I especially hate women I know who I kind of like who share his inane tweets and blogs and utterly fail to see what a misogynist a hole he is...I am always so disappointed. This sums it up for me. The dude is a giant turd.
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Post by Country Ham on May 16, 2018 15:28:25 GMT
I have no idea who Matt Walsh is, and our house is in both our names even though it's my husband's childhood home. In reality he doesn't need his own space, but I will admit the whole house is really more reflective of how I want to be decorated. The furniture, the colors etc. It's way more about my aesthetics then his. I am not sure if that is what this guy is saying or not.
For example we went sofa shopping and the only sofa he truly loved was literally the ugliest one in the showroom. Yeah, not happening in our den or living room. If he really wants it then it would be put in a garage to be honest.
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Post by miominmio on May 16, 2018 15:34:58 GMT
Wow. His wife is just the luckiest woman in the whole wide world, isn't she? I'd turn his underwear inside out and roll it through poison ivy before folding it and putting it in his dresser. Remind me NEVER to make an enemy of you! That is perhaps the most wonderfully evil plan EVER!
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Post by annie on May 16, 2018 16:28:36 GMT
I can't stand that guy either. So fucking "right" all the time.
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casii
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Post by casii on May 16, 2018 16:36:03 GMT
My husband has the laundry room since he does the laundry. LOL
That guy sounds like a real catch. Catch and throw back.
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Peal
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Post by Peal on May 16, 2018 16:53:35 GMT
Well, I have a husband and three sons, (one has moved out). Sometimes I think my whole house is some kind of prehistoric man-cave. And sometimes they clean up after themselves.
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Post by mrsscrapdiva on May 16, 2018 17:12:12 GMT
My exact thought!
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Post by OntarioScrapper on May 16, 2018 17:43:01 GMT
Well my craft room is the back end of our bedroom so I can't craft late at night. There's this part of the basement which has these things called tools but I have a hard time to even find a screw driver when I need one. I keep a screw driver and a hammer in the dinning room area so I can find one when I need it. DH has said he wants to claim the small spare bedroom as his "office" since it is no longer used as a toy room. It's been a year. He even has the little desk he needs to put together still in the box. Instead he is using the one end of the dinning room table and his stuff is spread on the shelves where I keep kitchen stuff that doesn't fit in our tiny kitchen. And yes, he will complain if we are noisy. Well he wouldn't hear us if he set up the spare room. If I have to fix up the spare room, I'm moving my craft stuff THERE.
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smartypants71
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Post by smartypants71 on May 16, 2018 17:56:26 GMT
You want your own space? Lock the bathroom door like the rest of us!
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Post by carhoch on May 16, 2018 19:47:50 GMT
My husband and I see marriage as a real partnership it’s our house, our money ,our life and I believe that my husband will also agreed that Matt Walsh is a Neanderthal .
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Post by crimsoncat05 on May 16, 2018 20:02:03 GMT
How come the kitchen and laundry room aren’t male spaces? I'll take the basement, if my boyfriend will take the kitchen and laundry room- that trade sounds good to me! lol! who is the guy from the OP, anyway?!? I'd turn his underwear inside out and roll it through poison ivy before folding it and putting it in his dresser. bwahahaha!!!
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Post by birdgate on May 16, 2018 20:40:30 GMT
I prefer masculine bathrooms. That's as far as I'm going.
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