Chinagirl828
Drama Llama
Melbourne, Australia
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Post by Chinagirl828 on May 19, 2018 1:33:24 GMT
She calls it being transparent. Yet somehow that transparency disappears when they're asking listeners to donate for the ongoing costs of the podcast.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on May 19, 2018 3:01:28 GMT
It's tacky to discuss profit and loss with listeners. It makes it seem like there will need to be another money drive since they aren't making any money. Or just being too much of a spendthrift because it's too freaking easy to spend other people's money that you didn't have to work for (she must have gotten too used to that with her donations last year).
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Post by riversong1963 on May 19, 2018 13:41:34 GMT
I don't give a whickety-whack about candy (I can buy that myself) or sightseeing (I can do that myself too). I can even dine out on my own, but good food would be a necessary part of any retreat I attended. It's not my idea of a "retreat" either.
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Post by scrappyem on May 19, 2018 14:56:40 GMT
It drives me nuts how disorganized she is for her "retreats". The area she's booked the "Seattle" retreat is not at all in Seattle, and is not very nice (unless it's vastly changed since I've been there). With traffic, it's about an hour away from downtown Seattle. The way she talks about how she books hotels shows how completely inexperienced she is with event planning. Not having a guest teacher is just bad. The food thing also bothers me. How her favorite part is buying all the candy. I hope she provides some healthy options as well but it sure doesn't sound like it. I can't imagine spending money to go to that. Can’t find info on the Seattle retreat. Where is it supposed to be? It's in Lakewood. Outside of Tacoma, on the way to Olympia. It's near the base.
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Post by andreasmom on May 19, 2018 17:57:04 GMT
Can’t find info on the Seattle retreat. Where is it supposed to be? It's in Lakewood. Outside of Tacoma, on the way to Olympia. It's near the base. Yep, Too far out to be called Seattle.
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nicolep
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Post by nicolep on May 19, 2018 21:45:18 GMT
Apparently they also don't have the budget to to have the band they had last year either. Umm...wasnt it her husband's band?
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dawnnikol
Prolific Pea
'A life without books is a life not lived.' Jay Kristoff
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Post by dawnnikol on May 19, 2018 22:23:19 GMT
Apparently they also don't have the budget to to have the band they had last year either. Umm...wasnt it her husband's band? They must have raised their rates after seeing how often she goes on vacation...
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Post by artisticscrapper on May 21, 2018 2:35:37 GMT
Looking at her most current retreat (Tennessee) it seems that not even half the time is spent scrapping,, Saturday during the day and Sunday morning are about it. The rest is taken up with shopping, sightseeing, and dining. There aren’t even any evening crops. If I were paying that kind of money I’d expect way more scrap time and a stellar goodie bag ( scrap goodies, not candy).i honestly just don’t get it. It’s not a crop. To be fair, they have said repeatedly it’s not a crop. There are classes, shopping, sightseeing, dining, “Fabulous conversations” and some free time that can be spent Scrapbooking or whatever, Not a crop where you do your own thing all weekend. Surely no one would pay that thinking they were going to a crop. Sorry for the confusion. I meant crop time in addition to the classes, not in lieu of them.
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Post by sleepingbooty on May 21, 2018 8:38:58 GMT
Apparently they also don't have the budget to to have the band they had last year either. Umm...wasnt it her husband's band? Yep. And her daughter was on hand as well. I bet she got paid as an assistant.
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violetfall
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Jun 30, 2017 18:27:45 GMT
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Post by violetfall on May 21, 2018 14:32:57 GMT
So, what exactly are people paying money for?
What's EXCLUDED in the price - transportation, hotel, guest teachers. The Scrap Gals get most of the scrapbooking stuff donated so aside from the personalized things Tracie makes, that isn't costing them anything either. Then, they have their "sponser" Scrappin' in the City so they probably get a kick back for everything she sells there.
So, they are charging all that money for food and the scrap gals presence?
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Post by sleepingbooty on May 21, 2018 15:07:11 GMT
So, they are charging all that money for food and the scrap gals presence? EXCUSE YOU. The extreme honour and privilege of being allowed in the vicinity of the Scrap Gals (capital letters, pleasethankyou).
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violetfall
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Post by violetfall on May 21, 2018 15:47:28 GMT
$350 seems an awful lot for food and not much else. I wonder where they came up with that figure because that's one huge profit margin.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on May 21, 2018 16:43:45 GMT
$350 seems an awful lot for food and not much else. I wonder where they came up with that figure because that's one huge profit margin. It's based on a lengthy list of vacations to Disney and electronics she wishes to purchase.
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Post by lisacharlotte on May 21, 2018 17:19:05 GMT
I just looked at what you get for $350. I guess I just don’t get it. Drive to Nashville and do the tourist stuff. Catered meals (value is going to depend on what you get). Some classes by one person who doesn’t scrapbook. They mention “creative time” but it’s not a crop. So what are you creating and what supplies? Plus you need to get yourself there and pay hotel on your own. Just can’t see the value in this. Does anyone know the type of supplies they gave in previous retreats?
I think the AE retreat is overpriced as well, but I think the teaching portion is where you get the value vs SG. Not to mention the exclusive AE product.
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Post by joblackford on May 21, 2018 17:21:27 GMT
Can’t find info on the Seattle retreat. Where is it supposed to be? It's in Lakewood. Outside of Tacoma, on the way to Olympia. It's near the base. Or "Lakehood" as my husband calls it... Hubby and I both said if she wanted a cheaper option that might be considered "Seattle-ish" Bremerton would've been a good option. It's cheap here, and we're a very pleasant (scenic, tourist attracting) 1 hour ferry ride from Seattle where all the shopping and eating and sightseeing is. And it's a lovely spot. And although someone once said that they could film The Walking Dead here without needing to hire any extras, that was quite a while ago. We don't appear quite so shambling/undead any more. I have lived in the Puget Sound area for 15 years and have had no reason to visit Lakewood. I'm pretty sure the one time I heard there was a cool store there my hubby just said "hell, no." I guess if I was stuck there I would go visit Tacoma, but it's a pretty long drive on I5 into Seattle from there... (ETA: I'm sure it's probably not as bad as my husband says. I hope. Just a very weird place to pick to visit "Seattle" is all.)
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Post by deekaye on May 21, 2018 18:18:00 GMT
Lakewood? That most certainly is not Seattle or even Seattle-ish... it is south of Seattle, down the I-5 corridor, even south of the next largest city, Tacoma. Sketchy area, crime-ridden....
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Post by deekaye on May 21, 2018 18:20:09 GMT
She calls it being transparent. Yet somehow that transparency disappears when they're asking listeners to donate for the ongoing costs of the podcast. Or when she "didn't know" that the donation button was on her website... the one to donate to her pacemaker fund!! (I'm a bit cranky today but I'll never forget that whole debacle, as I was paying for my OWN pacemaker at the same time!!!).
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Deleted
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2018 2:39:11 GMT
It seems there was not exactly a run to register for the Nashville retreat.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2018 5:45:30 GMT
I don't understand how she can legally have a retreat for scrapbooking when she doesn't scrapbook any more. Doesn't Tiffany worry about these things that one of their "customer's can turn around and legally go after them for advertising a scrapbook retreat with a host that does not scrapbook? deekaye Hugs! Big gentle hugs. I hope you are doing great. I wiped my hands clean of my Tracie today. Didn't I tell you all she would abuse me? Guess what? She did! It was bad. She blamed her problems on me. The things I was trying to do nice for her she turned on me badly. I told her I will never ever see her again. I won't be treated that way. I mean it. Done! Tracie's of the world are the most detrimental dangerous low level human beings I have ever seen. They take, take and take and then when it doesn't go their way they blame, and more blame. All she did was bleed me and my DH dry financial wise, emotional and physical. She even got people fired with her lies. It was really bad. Do you all think Tracie's daughter is emotionally blackmailed and gaslighted to go to these retreats and be her Mom's assistant? No offense but most beautiful teenage girls don't want to go to a crop and spend time with a bunch of middle age women and older. I am in the middle age category. I had to go through the "assistant" thing too with my grifter and con artist. I know Tracie loves her daughter, though. I remember that on the old 2Peas. I also know grifter's look at people in their lives as another tool. They mentally can't turn that part of themselves off.
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all5ofme
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Aug 31, 2016 11:22:17 GMT
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Post by all5ofme on May 23, 2018 11:54:34 GMT
Nashville retreat in Lebanon?
Seattle retreat in Lakewood?
False advertising!
I don't think their Gatlingburg $450.00 Creative Escape was a go either. Thank goodness. At least some people have sense.
At this point, people who "lourve" them, get exactly what they deserve..... ripped off.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on May 23, 2018 18:58:50 GMT
I think my computer is stalking me. I haven't looked up any of the SG retreats and have TC blocked on FB, yet somehow in my suggested groups is the freaking Nashville retreat group. Ew.
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Post by mcjunkin on May 23, 2018 19:51:46 GMT
In a reply to a post, there was an allusion to the fact that there has not been the response needed for the retreats this year, so Nashville may be the last.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2018 20:16:49 GMT
In a reply to a post, there was an allusion to the fact that there has not been the response needed for the retreats this year, so Nashville may be the last. Imagine that!
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Post by scrapaddict702 on May 23, 2018 20:26:30 GMT
In a reply to a post, there was an allusion to the fact that there has not been the response needed for the retreats this year, so Nashville may be the last. Can't imagine why.
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Ohno
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Post by Ohno on May 23, 2018 21:53:46 GMT
I understand! I asked Tiff if she thought schools were starting too soon to that and she didn’t but I know things are different around the country. I wish I could have found some place for the original date. You wouldn’t believe the craziness I encountered in trying to find a place. People either want 10 times what a room should be or it’s booked or more often it’s not big enough. Most hotels put 2-3 people at a classroom table. I guess in hindsight I should have just had everyone share a table but it’s just not as fun that way. I try to make it be like we would want to be treated. I am just so sorry it got screwed up. This might be our last one. It’s just so exhausting. 😐
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Post by mcjunkin on May 24, 2018 1:02:22 GMT
Then there are at least 2 posts that say possibly the last one, cause the post eggypay pasted is different than the one I saw.
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Post by mom on May 24, 2018 1:16:03 GMT
I don't understand how she can legally have a retreat for scrapbooking when she doesn't scrapbook any more. Doesn't Tiffany worry about these things that one of their "customer's can turn around and legally go after them for advertising a scrapbook retreat with a host that does not scrapbook? deekaye Hugs! Big gentle hugs. I hope you are doing great. I wiped my hands clean of my Tracie today. Didn't I tell you all she would abuse me? Guess what? She did! It was bad. She blamed her problems on me. The things I was trying to do nice for her she turned on me badly. I told her I will never ever see her again. I won't be treated that way. I mean it. Done! Tracie's of the world are the most detrimental dangerous low level human beings I have ever seen. They take, take and take and then when it doesn't go their way they blame, and more blame. All she did was bleed me and my DH dry financial wise, emotional and physical. She even got people fired with her lies. It was really bad. Do you all think Tracie's daughter is emotionally blackmailed and gaslighted to go to these retreats and be her Mom's assistant? No offense but most beautiful teenage girls don't want to go to a crop and spend time with a bunch of middle age women and older. I am in the middle age category. I had to go through the "assistant" thing too with my grifter and con artist. I know Tracie loves her daughter, though. I remember that on the old 2Peas. I also know grifter's look at people in their lives as another tool. They mentally can't turn that part of themselves off. Honestly, I don't think so. I think she has the same mentality of the Duggars - the parents are always right and do whatever you can to help them.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 1:52:07 GMT
This was the mention i saw in the Scrap gabs community by Tracie:
“Janice- missed you! So good to hear from you. We have spots available now for our Nashville retreat. We haven’t had the response we need for our retreats this year so Nashville might be our last. We will make an announcement soon. Would love to see you!”
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Post by QueSeraSera on May 24, 2018 2:54:23 GMT
Maybe Tracie's reputation and karma are finally catching up with her.
I have avoided saying this for a long time but am going to go there. Does anyone else think that Tracie was behind creating the smack blog? The reason I think it was her blog is because she was caught posting and deleting under her own name multiple times. Like she forgot what account she was logged in under. 🤔 Then when she finally started getting a little recognition in the industry, poof the blog closed down. Things that make you go hmmm.
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Post by mom on May 24, 2018 3:25:48 GMT
Maybe Tracie's reputation and karma are finally catching up with her. I have avoided saying this for a long time but am going to go there. Does anyone else think that Tracie was behind creating the smack blog? The reason I think it was her blog is because she was caught posting and deleting under her own name multiple times. Like she forgot what account she was logged in under. 🤔 Then when she finally started getting a little recognition in the industry, poof the blog closed down. Things that make you go hmmm. I absolutely think she was behind it. I wasn't sure for while but then when she started badmouthing WRMK on that video (and then trying to hide it) peaked my suspicions again. SaveSave
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