all5ofme
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Post by all5ofme on May 16, 2018 21:58:41 GMT
Listening to the last podcast where they are trying to push their retreat, but mostly talked about food, candy and eating out, they mentioned that due to their changing schedule for Nashville that there will be no guest teacher. Then later, Tracie goes on to talk about they may consider having no guest teachers next year because of...... cost! It costs money.... they have to pay them of course and what if they travel? I think the only one they actually paid to travel was Jen Schow. I could be incorrect, but I think the rest were all local... Anywho.... since Tracie mentioned cost being the major factor and they won't have a teacher for Nashville, did the cost of the Nashville retreat go down? I don't think so!
Cha Ching$$$$$$
Doesn't sound like they had the numbers at the last retreat. Maybe folks are wising up?
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Post by sleepingbooty on May 16, 2018 22:32:30 GMT
Oh, here we go again... Tchoo, tchoo, all aboard the Tracie train. Destination: whothecapitalFknows, also subject to change at any minute. Typical. One can only hope that means their attendance is dwindling and they're no longer able to fully book their retreats. Must. Pay. For. Husband's. And. Daughter's. "Holiday". To. The. Retreat. First. #totallymoreimportantthanaproperteacher So, essentially, they cashed in on the early success too quickly and too greedily. They do not have the staying power or actual scrapbook star status (or proper knowledge #pagingCaptainObvious) to warrant a "tour." Talk about letting one retreat get to your head. Heck, even Ali knows the longevity game is in finding the right balance between offering X amount of retreats per year (and she is an actual SB star with knowledge to teach and a serious brand backed up by products that sell out on a regular basis). I need a drink and more Claiborne skeptics in this thread.
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Post by mom on May 16, 2018 22:51:17 GMT
I don't think its because of low attendance. I think Tracie thinks SHE is a big enough 'celebrity' that why should they bother to pay someone else? More money in her (rather large) pocket.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on May 16, 2018 23:21:41 GMT
Ooooh, she's jumping on the SC train, too! 'Tell 'em one thing, make 'em pay for it and then change it up to include less than bargained for, refuse to let them cancel and send them less' is their motto for pre-orders. Looks like TC is applying the concept to her business (aka paid vacation/party time).
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Post by scrapaddict702 on May 16, 2018 23:23:47 GMT
I don't think its because of low attendance. I think Tracie thinks SHE is a big enough 'celebrity' that why should they bother to pay someone else? More money in her (rather large) pocket. If she doesn't freaking scrapbook anymore, should she really be teaching when teaching is usually about the latest trends?? Scrapbooking ain't football where you become a coach when you retire.
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Post by nicolep on May 16, 2018 23:45:04 GMT
I don't think its because of low attendance. I think Tracie thinks SHE is a big enough 'celebrity' that why should they bother to pay someone else? More money in her (rather large) pocket. If she doesn't freaking scrapbook anymore, should she really be teaching when teaching is usually about the latest trends?? Scrapbooking ain't football where you become a coach when you retire. This! It is super annoying to me!
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Post by mygigiscraps on May 16, 2018 23:55:09 GMT
Of course she cannot afford to pay a guest teacher. Campfire dinner season just started at Cracker Barrel. It's not like she's made out of money, you know. Priorities, PEAple.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 0:44:15 GMT
Oh, here we go again... Tchoo, tchoo, all aboard the Tracie train. Destination: whothecapitalFknows, also subject to change at any minute. Typical. One can only hope that means their attendance is dwindling and they're no longer able to fully book their retreats. Must. Pay. For. Husband's. And. Daughter's. "Holiday". To. The. Retreat. First. #totallymoreimportantthanaproperteacher So, essentially, they cashed in on the early success too quickly and too greedily. They do not have the staying power or actual scrapbook star status (or proper knowledge #pagingCaptainObvious) to warrant a "tour." Talk about letting one retreat get to your head. Heck, even Ali knows the longevity game is in finding the right balance between offering X amount of retreats per year (and she is an actual SB star with knowledge to teach and a serious brand backed up by products that sell out on a regular basis). I need a drink and more Claiborne skeptics in this thread. Oh I’m always a spectator in the scammy Claiborne threads!
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Post by artisticscrapper on May 17, 2018 2:06:39 GMT
According to her signature she’s a ‘certified scrapbook instructor’ so maybe she feels she doesn’t need any other teachers.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on May 17, 2018 2:08:54 GMT
Who the hell handed out the certification? There is no effing crafting authority. Sounds legit, though.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 2:57:13 GMT
TC IG: "Registration for The Scrap Gals Retreat in Nashville opens tomorrow and we have had an unexpected, unavoidable, last minute date change"
Original plans: (https://podtail.com/en/podcast/the-scrap-gals-podcast/2018-scrap-gals-retreats-info/) Nashville Sept. 29 - Oct 1st. Now Sep 7-9.
Hope not a lot of people pre-purchased expensive transportation or scheduled around their big reveal from June of '17. "Plan ahead. Don't let your daughter get married that week." Obviously said in jest, but still - I hope people didn't push important events around.
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Post by wendifful on May 17, 2018 3:14:28 GMT
Who the hell handed out the certification? There is no effing crafting authority. Sounds legit, though.I remember when this was discussed before. A few years ago EK Success had a certification process you had to go through to teach scrapbooking classes at Michael's or Joann. I think it was called Yellow Canary or something? Anyway, that's how she got "certified."
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2018 0:46:47 GMT
This episode was full of so many things worthy of comment.
The Texas retreat lost money but the chose not to cancel it because they wanted to hang out with some of their favorite people. Ha! No. They didn’t want to have to issue refunds to 25 people.
Tracie doesn’t was to invest in actually paying a professional teacher to teach a mixed media class so she and Tiffany are going to do it themselves even though neither one of them actually do mixed media for real. Yeah, how authentic of you.
Once again I was so turned off by all the talk of “we GAVE attendees___.” As if it was all given freely not PAID for by attendees.
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Post by riversong1963 on May 18, 2018 1:26:24 GMT
Who the hell handed out the certification? There is no effing crafting authority. Sounds legit, though.I remember when this was discussed before. A few years ago EK Success had a certification process you had to go through to teach scrapbooking classes at Michael's or Joann. I think it was called Yellow Canary or something? Anyway, that's how she got "certified." Oh, well, in that case, I'm a "Certified Scrapbook Instructor" too. I took that certification class. What a joke! Does anyone want to pay me to take a class? I actually scrapbook AND do mixed media.
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Post by scrappyem on May 18, 2018 12:57:06 GMT
It drives me nuts how disorganized she is for her "retreats". The area she's booked the "Seattle" retreat is not at all in Seattle, and is not very nice (unless it's vastly changed since I've been there). With traffic, it's about an hour away from downtown Seattle. The way she talks about how she books hotels shows how completely inexperienced she is with event planning. Not having a guest teacher is just bad. The food thing also bothers me. How her favorite part is buying all the candy. I hope she provides some healthy options as well but it sure doesn't sound like it. I can't imagine spending money to go to that.
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Post by dudleypippen on May 18, 2018 13:35:27 GMT
It drives me nuts how disorganized she is for her "retreats". The area she's booked the "Seattle" retreat is not at all in Seattle, and is not very nice (unless it's vastly changed since I've been there). With traffic, it's about an hour away from downtown Seattle. The way she talks about how she books hotels shows how completely inexperienced she is with event planning. Not having a guest teacher is just bad. The food thing also bothers me. How her favorite part is buying all the candy. I hope she provides some healthy options as well but it sure doesn't sound like it. I can't imagine spending money to go to that. The Nashville retreat last year was at a chain hotel in Mt Juliet, not even in the same county as Nashville. It’s suburban as it gets with huge housing developments and a large shopping center with a JoAnn’s, Target, Old Navy etc right across the street. It’s about 25-30 min to downtown without major traffic. I hate that people could be coming from out of town and think that this is what Nashville is like because that area has almost zero character (and in full disclosure I live very close by!)
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Post by dudleypippen on May 18, 2018 13:42:03 GMT
Coming back to add, because I’m apparently all kinds of rage-y today, I wish she would call it a crop, and drop the price accordingly. If you can’t offer respectable teachers then don’t half ass it yourself, which makes the whole thing look like amateur hour. Make it a really nice crop and be the best hostess ever. Also, if you are losing money on it don’t complain to the guests who paid to be there and instead consider that maybe you don’t have the business sense to pull this kind of event off.
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Post by scrappyem on May 18, 2018 14:12:13 GMT
Coming back to add, because I’m apparently all kinds of rage-y today, I wish she would call it a crop, and drop the price accordingly. If you can’t offer respectable teachers then don’t half ass it yourself, which makes the whole thing look like amateur hour. Make it a really nice crop and be the best hostess ever. Also, if you are losing money on it don’t complain to the guests who paid to be there and instead consider that maybe you don’t have the business sense to pull this kind of event off. Complaining about losing money is just tacky. If you aren't making enough $$$, evaluate the ROI, and make the appropriate adjustments/business decisions. Amateur hour is right. Ugh apparently I'm rage-y today as well.
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Post by sleepingbooty on May 18, 2018 14:41:57 GMT
I hope she provides some healthy options as well but it sure doesn't sound like it. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *takes a deep breath* HAHAHAHAHAHAHA *side stitch* HAHA
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Post by sleepingbooty on May 18, 2018 14:48:11 GMT
Oh, well, in that case, I'm a "Certified Scrapbook Instructor" too. I took that certification class. What a joke! Does anyone want to pay me to take a class? I actually scrapbook AND do mixed media."Sorry, Ma'am, it appears you are overqualified for this position." One does not scrapbook and teach scrapbooking. That is simply not done. Utter nonsense. How dare you suggest the certified professional should sully their fingers with such menial tasks? Ridiculous. Unheard of. Unacceptable. They are there to read the instructions from the back of the product. And that is all. Tsk tsk tsk.
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Post by nicolep on May 18, 2018 17:32:53 GMT
She is absolutely ridiculous and I seriously do NOT get anyone who fangirls her. SHE DOESN'T EVEN SCRAPBOOK and you want to go to one of her retreats?! You kiss her butt on IG and FB? HUH? WHY? WHAT does she do? WHAT is the attraction?
I'm old school and these girls are flakes. IDK how else to say it. WAKE UP.
In terms of 'retreats', Tracie has NOTHING on Ali's. It makes her look so childish, unprofessional, inexperienced and completely boring.
ALI is the class act all around in this arena.
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Post by dawnnikol on May 18, 2018 19:46:57 GMT
She is absolutely ridiculous and I seriously do NOT get anyone who fangirls her. SHE DOESN'T EVEN SCRAPBOOK and you want to go to one of her retreats?! You kiss her butt on IG and FB? HUH? WHY? WHAT does she do? WHAT is the attraction? I'm old school and these girls are flakes. IDK how else to say it. WAKE UP. In terms of 'retreats', Tracie has NOTHING on Ali's. It makes her look so childish, unprofessional, inexperienced and completely boring. ALI is the class act all around in this arena. As long as there are stupid fan girls to pay her, she will thrive. Stupid ass lemmings. Find another hobby to mess with.
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Post by crafty on May 18, 2018 20:18:23 GMT
It's tacky to discuss profit and loss with listeners. It makes it seem like there will need to be another money drive since they aren't making any money.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2018 21:56:19 GMT
It's tacky to discuss profit and loss with listeners. It makes it seem like there will need to be another money drive since they aren't making any money. She calls it being transparent.
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Post by lisacharlotte on May 18, 2018 21:59:37 GMT
It's tacky to discuss profit and loss with listeners. It makes it seem like there will need to be another money drive since they aren't making any money. Ding ding ding ding!!!!!
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Post by lisacharlotte on May 18, 2018 22:29:04 GMT
All I can come up with is “ A fool and his/her money are soon parted.” I can’t believe anyone paid to go to Nashville, but then really ended up in Mt Juliet. So now you can go to “Seattle”, but not really. Kinda like it’s a “retreat”, but not really. Or learn from a “certified scrapbooker”, but not really.
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Post by artisticscrapper on May 18, 2018 23:04:50 GMT
Looking at her most current retreat (Tennessee) it seems that not even half the time is spent scrapping,, Saturday during the day and Sunday morning are about it. The rest is taken up with shopping, sightseeing, and dining. There aren’t even any evening crops. If I were paying that kind of money I’d expect way more scrap time and a stellar goodie bag ( scrap goodies, not candy).i honestly just don’t get it.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2018 23:40:09 GMT
Looking at her most current retreat (Tennessee) it seems that not even half the time is spent scrapping,, Saturday during the day and Sunday morning are about it. The rest is taken up with shopping, sightseeing, and dining. There aren’t even any evening crops. If I were paying that kind of money I’d expect way more scrap time and a stellar goodie bag ( scrap goodies, not candy).i honestly just don’t get it. It’s not a crop. To be fair, they have said repeatedly it’s not a crop. There are classes, shopping, sightseeing, dining, “Fabulous conversations” and some free time that can be spent Scrapbooking or whatever, Not a crop where you do your own thing all weekend. Surely no one would pay that thinking they were going to a crop.
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Post by karenbh on May 19, 2018 0:53:33 GMT
It drives me nuts how disorganized she is for her "retreats". The area she's booked the "Seattle" retreat is not at all in Seattle, and is not very nice (unless it's vastly changed since I've been there). With traffic, it's about an hour away from downtown Seattle. The way she talks about how she books hotels shows how completely inexperienced she is with event planning. Not having a guest teacher is just bad. The food thing also bothers me. How her favorite part is buying all the candy. I hope she provides some healthy options as well but it sure doesn't sound like it. I can't imagine spending money to go to that. My husband grew up in the area they are hosting the “Seattle” retreat and it’s a really scetchy part of town. It feels like they are sacrificing safety and quality for $$. Makes me really nervous.
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Post by andreasmom on May 19, 2018 0:58:46 GMT
It drives me nuts how disorganized she is for her "retreats". The area she's booked the "Seattle" retreat is not at all in Seattle, and is not very nice (unless it's vastly changed since I've been there). With traffic, it's about an hour away from downtown Seattle. The way she talks about how she books hotels shows how completely inexperienced she is with event planning. Not having a guest teacher is just bad. The food thing also bothers me. How her favorite part is buying all the candy. I hope she provides some healthy options as well but it sure doesn't sound like it. I can't imagine spending money to go to that. Can’t find info on the Seattle retreat. Where is it supposed to be?
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