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Post by luvmygirls on Jun 21, 2018 13:20:04 GMT
Update.......thanks for taking the time to reply and giving so much to think about. DH and I decided to get two hotel rooms and pay ourselves. That way we have more room for everyone. As far as transportation, we will be buying a new truck before we go on the cruise, so he’s gonna look for one that seats six people. It’s gonna be a crappy ride but we can do it. It should be a really fun cruise. The girl that lives with us has never been anywhere and she’s so excited.
We have a 20 girl who has been living with our family for a few months. Her Mother is in a nursing home and father is not in her life. She’s become very close to our family, and my daughters call her their sister. We are taking another cruise next year and she asked to join us and said she’d pay for her portion. She has a good full time job and is taking online classes. We do not charge her rent, but expect her to save money out of each check and continue with her classes. Here’s where I need your opinion. The last 2 cruises we took as a family, we drove our vehicle (10 hrs) to the port and stayed in a hotel the night before embarking. If she goes with us, we will have to take 2 cars and get an extra hotel room. How would you handle the extra cost of the additional vehicle and hotel expenses?
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Post by mikklynn on Jun 21, 2018 13:23:13 GMT
Can you afford to just cover the extra cost? If so, I would do that.
She sounds like a hard working young woman who has been dealing with a tough situation.
You rock, by the way, to "adopt" her.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2018 13:24:09 GMT
She's already said she'd pay her portion. What is there to handle?
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Post by gsquaredmom on Jun 21, 2018 13:35:45 GMT
I would cover her as agreed. It sounds like a little more gas and a hotel room difference for you.
Can you rent a larger vehicle for the drive, drop everyone at the hotel, turn in the car, Uber to port, then rent another car to get home? Or if the cruise is short, park the larger rental car.
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Post by librarylady on Jun 21, 2018 14:20:57 GMT
I would cover her as agreed. It sounds like a little more gas and a hotel room difference for you. Can you rent a larger vehicle for the drive, drop everyone at the hotel, turn in the car, Uber to port, then rent another car to get home? Or if the cruise is short, park the larger rental car.
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Post by littlemama on Jun 21, 2018 14:23:18 GMT
I would rent a vehicle that would hold everyone and I would get an extra hotel room for all the girls. I would not charge a 20 year old for any of that.
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Post by mikewozowski on Jun 21, 2018 14:26:18 GMT
how many people will there be in your party?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2018 14:28:53 GMT
I would rent a vehicle that would hold everyone and I would get an extra hotel room for all the girls. I would not charge a 20 year old for any of that. That's what I would do, too.
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Post by smartypants71 on Jun 21, 2018 14:39:30 GMT
I would rent a van and either pay for an extra room or upgrade to a suite. I wouldn't bring two cars though - parking at a cruise terminal is pretty pricey as it is.
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Post by summer on Jun 21, 2018 14:59:24 GMT
I would rent a vehicle that would hold everyone and I would get an extra hotel room for all the girls. I would not charge a 20 year old for any of that. This is what I would do as well. Taking two cars would be a last resort.
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Post by kibble on Jun 21, 2018 15:03:16 GMT
I would rent a vehicle for just the there/back days of the drive, that would probably be cheaper than taking 2 vehicles and paying for parking.
If I could afford it I would just cover the cost of the car/hotel and let her pay for just the cruise part. Let the girls all share a hotel room, that's a win for everybody in my opinion, you'll have some privacy.
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Post by mustlovecats on Jun 21, 2018 15:25:02 GMT
I would rent a vehicle big enough for everyone and come to a reasonable arrangement with her about costs based on what she can contribute. If she feels she can pay her cruise portion I would pick up the rest, even if that means subsidizing some of her travel. Giving her a family life is a gift it sounds like, and I would consider this an investment in her as a person.
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Post by tracylynn on Jun 21, 2018 15:41:00 GMT
Rent a vehicle big enough for all, and either upgrade to a suite or book two rooms. And I would pay for all of that. I wouldn't nickle and dime a 20 year old who by your accounts is like a daughter/sister to your family. Especially after she's offered to pay her portion of the cruise - which I'm sure isn't cheap.
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Post by luvmygirls on Jun 21, 2018 20:18:34 GMT
We thought about renting a bigger vehicle but didn’t want the added expense when I saw the prices of one that would fit all of us (6) and our luggage. Plus if we take DH truck, like we always do, we are able to fit all the luggage in the bed.
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Post by luvmygirls on Jun 21, 2018 20:20:56 GMT
Also as a reminder, I’m not charging her rent to live with us so she’s saving a lot of money each month. I wouldn’t call it nickel and dining a 20 yo when you are already practically supporting her.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Jun 21, 2018 20:29:17 GMT
I would rent a vehicle that would hold everyone and I would get an extra hotel room for all the girls. I would not charge a 20 year old for any of that. This is what I would suggest. To be honest though, if I had a 20 year old that lived with me, worked full time and kept her schooling up, I'd pick up the entire cost of her trip. I wouldn't be quibbling over the fact that she doesn't pay rent. Especially if she is close enough that your girls refer to her as a sister and you are in essence the only family she seems to have (based on your OP).
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Post by christine58 on Jun 21, 2018 20:50:16 GMT
Also as a reminder, I’m not charging her rent to live with us so she’s saving a lot of money each month. I wouldn’t call it nickel and dining a 20 yo when you are already practically supporting her. Have a conversation with her about now needing to get a bigger hotel room. Are your children helping with the cost of travel to the cruise???
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Post by papersilly on Jun 21, 2018 21:06:49 GMT
no rent aside, it does kind of sound like nickel and diming. i would cover the extra cost. she seems like a good girl who's already been through a lot. her paying for her part of the cruise should be more than enough.
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Post by Basket1lady on Jun 21, 2018 21:08:57 GMT
You have 3 options, assuming she will pay for her portion of the cruise: 1. have her pay the costs of another hotel room, another vehicle's gas, and her cost for the cruise 2. have her pay a portion of the hotel room and extra car, with her paying her cost for the cruise 3. pay her way for the hotel room and extra car, with her paying her cost for the cruise
I would probably choose #2. At 20, she's old enough to see that it costs more to go on vacation than just the cost of the tickets. I'd probably encourage the girls to drive separately and get a hotel room together, with your DD kicking in some cost for the gas, half the hotel room, and the parking. That way, it's on her to get herself to her destination, but your DD is helping by kicking in some gas money.
Perhaps the bigger issue is what to do about day trips. If you go on an expensive day trip, who is going to pay that cost? Meals off ship? Any other trip-related expenses? I would lay it all out for her, and make sure that she is able to get the time off of work, as well as school. I'd also have her book under her own name and pay her own deposit so that she has some skin in the game.
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Post by kristi on Jun 21, 2018 21:09:03 GMT
I would pay the added cost of the 6 passenger rental & hotel. My kids live rent free and I don't expect them to pay for family vacations.
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Post by shescrafty on Jun 21, 2018 21:10:34 GMT
Also as a reminder, I’m not charging her rent to live with us so she’s saving a lot of money each month. I wouldn’t call it nickel and dining a 20 yo when you are already practically supporting her. Serious question-what does your gut want to do? Do you want to charge her for the cost of the extra hotel room? Charge her for the cost of taking another car? I am picking up the vibe that you don’t want her to come because of the extra expenses, or want her to pay for all of the extras. Can she drive her car to the next place? If it is just for one night at the hotel can she drive in the morning and meet you there? Many people are telling you to pay for it all, but I am guessing if you wanted to do that you would have done it without posting a thread asking about it.
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Post by questioning on Jun 21, 2018 21:32:45 GMT
I think it's amazing you have taken her in. It is expensive have kids this age, adding the living expenses of another without a previous expectation and plan would throw many of us for a loop. I don't think it sounds like you are nickel and diming her - teaching about real world expenses is part of good parenting as far as I am concerned.
Are you partially wishing you could have a family-only vacation?
Is there a commuter flight available from your hometown to the departure point? Maybe she could buy a plane ticket that's cheaper than adding a car and another hotel room. LOL, if this was me one of my kids would then decide they should fly too and I'd make them earn their ticket.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Jun 21, 2018 22:21:23 GMT
I would rent a vehicle that would hold everyone and I would get an extra hotel room for all the girls. I would not charge a 20 year old for any of that. This is what I would suggest. To be honest though, if I had a 20 year old that lived with me, worked full time and kept her schooling up, I'd pick up the entire cost of her trip. I wouldn't be quibbling over the fact that she doesn't pay rent. Especially if she is close enough that your girls refer to her as a sister and you are in essence the only family she seems to have (based on your OP). While that is what I would WANT to do, it isn’t necessarily something I COULD do, at least when our kids were younger and I was not earning a salary. When we were living on just DH’s salary, we had a vacation budget, and if an expense was not in the budget, we would not spend the money. An extra room at the hotel, the extra gas and parking expenses, meals along the way—those can add up quickly and blow the vacation budget. Like another poster above, I also wonder if there isn’t a little resentment that she has “invited herself” along on your family vacation. Even though she is living with you with your blessing, I can imagine there are some times you wish you had your family time back. There is nothing wrong with that! But I would take the time to figure out what your true feelings are about having her go on the trip. Her presence certainly changes the family dynamic, and unfortunately, there may not be a good answer. Let her go and resent it—that kind of spoils the vacation experience for which you paid a lot of money. Tell her no, and you may feel guilty for leaving her behind, and you may also have some unhappy kids.
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Post by gritzi on Jun 21, 2018 23:39:53 GMT
There is ample time to book a larger vehicle (van) now without paying in advance, and taking advantage of the decreased rate as time lapses. There are rental deals all of the time. We've found Costco Rental to be the best thus far, and have rented via Costco many times.
Once I find an acceptable rate, I book the vehicle, and then check rates 1-2x daily, if necessary. Whenever I find a lower price I book that vehicle and then cancel the previous rental. No harm, no foul except saving us money.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jun 22, 2018 0:21:38 GMT
I can’t help but feel that you give the impression she is like family (living with you, kids call her sister) but you don’t really feel that way. To me, it would be horrible to be taken in, but still feel like an outsider.
If it was me, I would find away to accommodate her on the trip. If she’s just a boarder in your home, you need to figure out the boundaries so you all know where you stand.
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Post by mom on Jun 22, 2018 0:48:32 GMT
I get the impression you aren't really wanting her to join you on the trip. If so, you need to speak up.
Otherwise, would it be possible for her to fly to wherever you are leaving from and the rest of you drive? The airline ticket could be bought ahead of time and probably pretty affordable. Re: the hotel room - if she doesn't go, how are you getting 5 people into one room? It seems like you are already going to need two rooms? Could she sleep on the couch in the hotel room? Pull out bed?
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Post by mlana on Jun 22, 2018 1:21:39 GMT
My family loves to cruise and has been on several. The hotels in port cities are VERY expensive on cruise days and parking can cost as much as one of the cheap weekend cruises. One way car/van rentals are also outrageous. We are not talking nickel and diving anyone when you start adding those costs up. Then there are the excursions..what is y’all want to do a pricey one and she doesn’t have the funds? Or even if you just want to do something at each port?
Quick thought: are you already getting 2 rooms? How will they be divided up? Three person rooms ate usually rare and you can sometimes be charged for a fourth person if a three room isn’t available. Your travel agent can usually negotiate that, but it is a consideration.
How about making this a learning experience for her and your girls? Gather your numbers and have a family meeting. Show them the costs as is and what they will be with an additional person. Invite them to spend some time online looking for alternatives. You might be surprised at what they come up with. My DD is especially good at ferreting out travel deals and ways to save. Obey. The woman can make and keep to a budget like no one’s business. LOL
You might suggest that the young lady fly in early morning of the cruise with just her purse; y’all can bring her suitcases with you. She pays for the round trip flights and the transportation to and from the airport. This would probably be the least impactful on you and would give you time with just your kids, too. Please don’t ever feel bad for wanting time with just your kids, you don’t have to justify it. My mom took in every stray kid in town, the more the merrier, and I often felt lost in the group. Private time would have been very nice, even when I liked that week’s stray.
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Post by inkedup on Jun 22, 2018 1:28:08 GMT
Also as a reminder, I’m not charging her rent to live with us so she’s saving a lot of money each month. I wouldn’t call it nickel and dining a 20 yo when you are already practically supporting her. It sounds like you know what you want to do here. She said she'd cover her portion. I'd take that to mean her portion of any and all expenses in relation to this trip. You're kind to do this, though I kind of get the feeling you are a bit resentful that she isn't paying rent and wants to go on this trip with you.
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Post by jackietex on Jun 22, 2018 1:35:37 GMT
You are doing a great thing for this girl, but I would just add the extra cost to your list of good deeds. You are her family right now, and at her young age it would be a gift to make her (yet again, I'm sure) like a genuine member of your family.
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Post by moodyblue on Jun 22, 2018 1:38:02 GMT
I can't help but feel that if you have a meeting and show the girls all the costs involved with another person going along, it's going to make her feel very unwelcome - like saying, "hey, we are letting you go with us but it's costing us" and if she has any insecurities about her situation, that's going to hit her smack in the face.
How old are your girls? Are any of them paying their way? Are you getting two hotel rooms, one for you and husband and one for the girls? If so, could one of your girls share with you and then there are three in each room?
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