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Post by librarylady on Jun 22, 2018 17:46:55 GMT
Interesting........reverting to medicine/procedures that worked prior to penicillin etc.
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Post by Sue on Jun 22, 2018 17:57:23 GMT
Very, very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by destined2bmom on Jun 23, 2018 16:13:48 GMT
Really interesting article. Thanks for sharing!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 16:56:11 GMT
Would this be akin to "let your child eat dirt "?
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Post by mustlovecats on Jun 23, 2018 17:57:46 GMT
Would this be akin to "let your child eat dirt "? No, this is using actual science to solve medical problems. Eating dirt or passive exposure is one way of building immunity. This is actively using one organism against another.
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Post by librarylady on Jun 23, 2018 17:58:48 GMT
Would this be akin to "let your child eat dirt "?
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Post by maryannscraps on Jun 23, 2018 18:30:41 GMT
Unfortunately, the use of antibiotics inherently leads to antibiotic resistant bacteria. There's not much we can do about it -- there are a number of bacteria strains that are resistant to every known antibiotic. It's interesting that Alexander Fleming discussed it in his Nobel lecture, and has been proven correct. Natural selection in action. LOL, I just finished writing a lab about it. I'm glad to see some possible treatments coming up the pipelines. The World Health Organization considers antibiotic resistance to be one of the biggest threats to public health around the world.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jun 23, 2018 18:35:51 GMT
Thank you for sharing, librarylady . How incredible (and hopefully inspiring for more research)!
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Post by elaine on Jun 23, 2018 19:07:20 GMT
Would this be akin to "let your child eat dirt "? I love this! I do think that we have created some of these super-bugs by overuse of antibacterial use in our kitchens, bathrooms, hand soaps at home, etc. There is something to be said for letting kids develop their immune systems by coming in contact with everyday viruses and bacteria found in dirt.
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Post by LeaP on Jun 23, 2018 19:48:47 GMT
Would this be akin to "let your child eat dirt "? I think that there is a lot to be said for letting your children eat dirt. SaveSaveSaveSave
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 20:52:07 GMT
Thank you for sharing, librarylady . How incredible (and hopefully inspiring for more research)!
When I was in nursing school, we learned hiw to use sugar to heal bedsores. Unfiltered honey can do the same thing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 20:53:10 GMT
Thank you for sharing, librarylady . How incredible (and hopefully inspiring for more research)!
When I was in nursing school, we learned hiw to use sugar to heal bedsores. Unfiltered honey can do the same thing.
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Post by beaglemom on Jun 23, 2018 21:12:09 GMT
I just wanted to say that I always love reading your posts. I rarely comment on them, but I love reading them!!
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Post by Basket1lady on Jun 23, 2018 21:18:35 GMT
Interesting! When DH had an ingrown toenail treated, they gave him honey to use as a salve on the wound. I have a friend who is a vet. She has a burned dog she is treating and uses honey. The dog has to wear a onesie to keep him from licking!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 21:22:37 GMT
On one of the medical tv shows they used tilapia skin to cover burns.
This is a practice in South America. It works and has to be a lot better than debriding a wound.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 22:08:38 GMT
TFS!! DH has been having a very rough year with his bladder cancer treatments. He's been sidelined nearly with every treatment because of a UTI. He goes on antibiotics and then it IMMEDIATELY comes back. They keep doing a urine culture to make sure it's the appropriate Rx for that strain of infection, but I don't think it ever goes away! He's getting worse and worse and they're running out of antibiotics for him. They might want to give it to him via i.v. This is all scaring me & I want to check it out before they do something wrong.
He's bouncing from his Urologist (who is giving him the BCG/cancer treatments) to his primary to the V.A. for yet another opinion, and we're coming up with nothing! Meanwhile he's getting more weak and more mentally tired. It's terrible!
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Post by maryannscraps on Jun 23, 2018 23:51:30 GMT
TFS!! DH has been having a very rough year with his bladder cancer treatments. He's been sidelined nearly with every treatment because of a UTI. He goes on antibiotics and then it IMMEDIATELY comes back. They keep doing a urine culture to make sure it's the appropriate Rx for that strain of infection, but I don't think it ever goes away! He's getting worse and worse and they're running out of antibiotics for him. They might want to give it to him via i.v. This is all scaring me & I want to check it out before they do something wrong. He's bouncing from his Urologist (who is giving him the BCG/cancer treatments) to his primary to the V.A. for yet another opinion, and we're coming up with nothing! Meanwhile he's getting more weak and more mentally tired. It's terrible! I'm so sorry about your husband, that's so exhausting and difficult. Basically this is the type of problem we get for blithely using so many antibiotics in non-serious cases and for fattening livestock -- the bacteria become resistant and we don't have any other antibiotics strong enough to treat the really serious infections when we need them. My DH had sepsis, and the only antibiotic that worked left him almost deaf. He's lucky it worked at all, and lucky to be alive. I hope your husband is able to find something to work to allow him to heal.
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Post by anniefb on Jun 23, 2018 23:59:48 GMT
Would this be akin to "let your child eat dirt "? I love this! I do think that we have created some of these super-bugs by overuse of antibacterial use in our kitchens, bathrooms, hand soaps at home, etc. There is something to be said for letting kids develop their immune systems by coming in contact with everyday viruses and bacteria found in dirt. I totally agree elaine.
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Post by anniefb on Jun 24, 2018 0:04:52 GMT
Interesting! When DH had an ingrown toenail treated, they gave him honey to use as a salve on the wound. I have a friend who is a vet. She has a burned dog she is treating and uses honey. The dog has to wear a onesie to keep him from licking! Manuka honey produced from the from the mānuka plant (Leptospermum scoparium) which grows in New Zealand is used a lot for wound treatment. It has amazing healing and antibacterial properties.
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Post by anniefb on Jun 24, 2018 0:05:57 GMT
Interesting........reverting to medicine/procedures that worked prior to penicillin etc.
I'm sure more of these are going to making a comeback soon as antibiotic resistance increases.
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Post by elaine on Jun 24, 2018 0:08:12 GMT
Interesting! When DH had an ingrown toenail treated, they gave him honey to use as a salve on the wound. I have a friend who is a vet. She has a burned dog she is treating and uses honey. The dog has to wear a onesie to keep him from licking! Manuka honey produced from the from the mānuka plant (Leptospermum scoparium) which grows in New Zealand is used a lot for wound treatment. It has amazing healing and antibacterial properties. We can now buy Manuka Honey infused wound dressings at our drug stores here. They are very soothing for burns.
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Post by maryannscraps on Jun 24, 2018 0:11:13 GMT
Would this be akin to "let your child eat dirt "? I love this! I do think that we have created some of these super-bugs by overuse of antibacterial use in our kitchens, bathrooms, hand soaps at home, etc. There is something to be said for letting kids develop their immune systems by coming in contact with everyday viruses and bacteria found in dirt. You don't have to think it, that is EXACTLY what is causing it. Along with the massive quantities of antibiotics added to livestock feed. Pediatricians are now saying not to treat even simple ear infections with antibiotics, because they usually heal in the same amount of time on their own. Save those antibiotics for the serious infection. My great uncle worked for Pfizer back in the early 1940s developing methods to mass produce penicillin for the troops in WWII. I remember him predicting this sort of thing when I was a kid -- he knew Fleming, so maybe he heard it there?
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Post by leftturnonly on Jun 24, 2018 2:45:26 GMT
Thanks for sharing librarylady & sleepingbooty ! I've heard of sugar/honey before but I don't think I've ever tried them. Guess I may as well add that apple cider vinegar is fantastic for burns in the kitchen. I had one burn that should have left a really nasty scar, but because I immediately applied cold running water, apple cider vinegar and ice on it, you can't even tell there was ever a burn. Also - if you live in an area where fleas are in the grass and one travels inside with you, maybe on a pant leg or however else it may find its way inside, you need to set a trap as soon as you find it. I've done this for 30 years easy and never not gotten my man flea. Take a low dish or aluminum pie pan and put a drop or two of dish washing/hand soap in it, then add maybe an inch or so of water. Take a tea candle (any candle will do) and place it in the soapy water in the pan and take it to the area you suspect the flea is lurking. Take care that you place this on a level spot on the floor where it will not get bumped, darken the room a bit if you can, light the candle and leave the spot. The flea, attracted to the flame, somehow ends up in the water and the soap breaks its surface tension and the flea drowns. Obviously, you need to take proper precautions to prevent a fire. Check on the trap after a few minutes to see if you've caught the flea yet. You'll see a black speck in the water when you have. It's good to leave it a little longer after you do catch one flea just in case it wasn't alone. Voila! If you've ever been in a home that has just been flea-bombed, you'll understand why I encourage trying this simple, effective method first.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2018 3:15:23 GMT
TFS!! DH has been having a very rough year with his bladder cancer treatments. He's been sidelined nearly with every treatment because of a UTI. He goes on antibiotics and then it IMMEDIATELY comes back. They keep doing a urine culture to make sure it's the appropriate Rx for that strain of infection, but I don't think it ever goes away! He's getting worse and worse and they're running out of antibiotics for him. They might want to give it to him via i.v. This is all scaring me & I want to check it out before they do something wrong. He's bouncing from his Urologist (who is giving him the BCG/cancer treatments) to his primary to the V.A. for yet another opinion, and we're coming up with nothing! Meanwhile he's getting more weak and more mentally tired. It's terrible! I'm so sorry about your husband, that's so exhausting and difficult. Basically this is the type of problem we get for blithely using so many antibiotics in non-serious cases and for fattening livestock -- the bacteria become resistant and we don't have any other antibiotics strong enough to treat the really serious infections when we need them. My DH had sepsis, and the only antibiotic that worked left him almost deaf. He's lucky it worked at all, and lucky to be alive. I hope your husband is able to find something to work to allow him to heal. Thank you so much. I'm glad that your DH found a way to heal. I know how serious sepsis is. I'm not sure why my DH continues to have these infections (could be from self-cathing), but I do feel that they're not curing it and it never goes away if it's coming back as soon as he's off the antibiotics. Makes no sense to me. He really wants to stop trying to do the BCG treatments and stop doing the self-cath at home for a while and see how he does, but this scares me too. We go on Monday to his Urologist and I hope they have a better plan...……
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2018 3:19:21 GMT
We rarely go out to eat and if am extra paranoid during the winter. I am in fear of getting somebody's super virus/ bacteria, that can't be cured.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2018 3:28:26 GMT
TFS!! DH has been having a very rough year with his bladder cancer treatments. He's been sidelined nearly with every treatment because of a UTI. He goes on antibiotics and then it IMMEDIATELY comes back. They keep doing a urine culture to make sure it's the appropriate Rx for that strain of infection, but I don't think it ever goes away! He's getting worse and worse and they're running out of antibiotics for him. They might want to give it to him via i.v. This is all scaring me & I want to check it out before they do something wrong. He's bouncing from his Urologist (who is giving him the BCG/cancer treatments) to his primary to the V.A. for yet another opinion, and we're coming up with nothing! Meanwhile he's getting more weak and more mentally tired. It's terrible! Have you consider that he may be allergic to cath? Would eliminating all sugar, wheat and corn help?
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Post by craftykitten on Jun 24, 2018 7:34:05 GMT
Thanks for sharing librarylady & sleepingbooty ! I've heard of sugar/honey before but I don't think I've ever tried them. Guess I may as well add that apple cider vinegar is fantastic for burns in the kitchen. I had one burn that should have left a really nasty scar, but because I immediately applied cold running water, apple cider vinegar and ice on it, you can't even tell there was ever a burn. Also - if you live in an area where fleas are in the grass and one travels inside with you, maybe on a pant leg or however else it may find its way inside, you need to set a trap as soon as you find it. I've done this for 30 years easy and never not gotten my man flea. Take a low dish or aluminum pie pan and put a drop or two of dish washing/hand soap in it, then add maybe an inch or so of water. Take a tea candle (any candle will do) and place it in the soapy water in the pan and take it to the area you suspect the flea is lurking. Take care that you place this on a level spot on the floor where it will not get bumped, darken the room a bit if you can, light the candle and leave the spot. The flea, attracted to the flame, somehow ends up in the water and the soap breaks its surface tension and the flea drowns. Obviously, you need to take proper precautions to prevent a fire. Check on the trap after a few minutes to see if you've caught the flea yet. You'll see a black speck in the water when you have. It's good to leave it a little longer after you do catch one flea just in case it wasn't alone. Voila! If you've ever been in a home that has just been flea-bombed, you'll understand why I encourage trying this simple, effective method first. You can do this with a lamp instead of a candle, I think the fleas are attracted to the heat? I've done it several times using a small desk lamp. Safer that way! Also the honey thing...ALL real honey is antimicrobial because it is hygrophobic and absorbs moisture. So if it is put next to bacteria it will kill the bacteria by drying it out. It's amazing! (It's also why honey ferments if you leave it open because it absorbs moisture from the air.) There's lots of research going on into honey from different plants to see what other properties they have but the antimicrobial thing is true of all of them.
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Post by miss_lizzie on Jun 24, 2018 13:27:23 GMT
We use vinegar for sunburn. You smell like a pickle, but it takes the heat away.
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Post by zookeeper on Jun 24, 2018 15:43:07 GMT
Thank you for sharing this article. This was incredibly interesting.
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