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Post by PolarGreen12 on Jun 25, 2018 19:35:05 GMT
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Post by mom on Jun 25, 2018 19:38:10 GMT
Not what you are asking, but there are tons of people in my area (about an hour from OK) that really hoping this passes.
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Post by busy on Jun 25, 2018 19:44:34 GMT
Medical marijuana has been legal in Oregon since 1999 and recreational since 2015. I have no problem with either. Obviously recreational is a bigger deal because it's a lot more people, including people who travel here specifically for that reason. But medical? Don't know why anyone would be against that. It's a non-issue.
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on Jun 25, 2018 19:48:36 GMT
I don’t pay close enough attention, I thought medical was legal everywhere by now. I haven’t noticed any issues at all with those using medical marijuana. Most tend to keep to themselves - they’re not out smoking in public or driving because they have real problems and actually need the pain management. Sure, there are some who scammed themselves a fake card, but even those weren’t really a problem.
Now, when it became legal for everyone is when I noticed problems. I’d just one day like to drive without smelling pot from another car. Yes, it’s illegal to smoke and drive. Yes, it still happens daily.
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Jun 25, 2018 19:58:11 GMT
Medical marijuana has been legal in Oregon since 1999 and recreational since 2015. I have no problem with either. Obviously recreational is a bigger deal because it's a lot more people, including people who travel here specifically for that reason. But medical? Don't know why anyone would be against that. It's a non-issue. Every republican I have tried to have a discussion with, but one, is voting No on this state question. In their minds, and their words, "it's a hippy liberal agenda for all the dopers to just get loaded all day and not work." They won't listen to anything regarding it otherwise. It's a frustrating attempt at a conversation. |
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Post by tracylynn on Jun 25, 2018 19:58:53 GMT
I don’t pay close enough attention, I thought medical was legal everywhere by now. I haven’t noticed any issues at all with those using medical marijuana. Most tend to keep to themselves - they’re not out smoking in public or driving because they have real problems and actually need the pain management. Sure, there are some who scammed themselves a fake card, but even those weren’t really a problem. Now, when it became legal for everyone is when I noticed problems. I’d just one day like to drive without smelling pot from another car. Yes, it’s illegal to smoke and drive. Yes, it still happens daily. I don't smell it coming from cars. And I live in a town where there are more pots shop than Starbucks (which is crazy). But I do smell it on the sidewalks and sometimes coming from neighbors apartments. Quite honestly, I'd rather smell that then cigarette smoke. |
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Jun 25, 2018 20:01:02 GMT
I don’t pay close enough attention, I thought medical was legal everywhere by now. I haven’t noticed any issues at all with those using medical marijuana. Most tend to keep to themselves - they’re not out smoking in public or driving because they have real problems and actually need the pain management. Sure, there are some who scammed themselves a fake card, but even those weren’t really a problem. Now, when it became legal for everyone is when I noticed problems. I’d just one day like to drive without smelling pot from another car. Yes, it’s illegal to smoke and drive. Yes, it still happens daily. Nope, it's only legal for medical in 29 states. |
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Post by casii on Jun 25, 2018 20:04:57 GMT
It's legal for medical here, but they're still working out the kinks. With regards to pain management, I wish it was legal across the board, especially considering that the opoid crisis has greatly hindered options for those who truly suffer with chronic pain. Plus the lack of side effects is very appealing in comparison to high test pain meds.
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Post by casii on Jun 25, 2018 20:06:42 GMT
Quite honestly, I'd rather smell that then cigarette smoke. Yes! Cigarette smoke is an automatic migraine for me. Pot smoke, no big deal. It's less offensive than someone wearing too much fragrance. |
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Post by busy on Jun 25, 2018 20:06:50 GMT
Random observation - it's been legal here for a few years now (and doing quite well, based on tax revenue and the number of retail shops there are) but I didn't realize until I was recently in San Jose how infrequently I smell pot in public here. I noticed it A LOT in San Jose, and the downtown area has very little housing so it must have been people in public. I rarely smell marijuana in public in Portland or elsewhere in Oregon.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jun 25, 2018 20:09:44 GMT
Medical marijuana has been legal in Oregon since 1999 and recreational since 2015. I have no problem with either. Obviously recreational is a bigger deal because it's a lot more people, including people who travel here specifically for that reason. But medical? Don't know why anyone would be against that. It's a non-issue.No one is against medical marijuana when it's for legitimate medical reasons. I have yet to hear of anyone who would look at a cancer patient and say "oh no take more opiods instead of marijuana" The controversy is I've yet to see a state that's implemented medical marijuana where it doesn't essentially become recreational marijuana. The prescriptions are ridiculously easy to obtain, and many of the issues regarding the industry are the same - but people are under the mistaken idea that it will be an extremely small issue as it's "just for medical". Anyone who votes for medical marijuana should make sure their state is prepared for a relatively robust industry and the problems that go along with it. |
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Post by busy on Jun 25, 2018 20:15:35 GMT
Medical marijuana has been legal in Oregon since 1999 and recreational since 2015. I have no problem with either. Obviously recreational is a bigger deal because it's a lot more people, including people who travel here specifically for that reason. But medical? Don't know why anyone would be against that. It's a non-issue.No one is against medical marijuana when it's for legitimate medical reasons. I have yet to hear of anyone who would look at a cancer patient and say "oh no take more opiods instead of marijuana" The controversy is I've yet to see a state that's implemented medical marijuana where it doesn't essentially become recreational marijuana. The prescriptions are ridiculously easy to obtain, and many of the issues regarding the industry are the same - but people are under the mistaken idea that it will be an extremely small issue as it's "just for medical". Anyone who votes for medical marijuana should make sure their state is prepared for a relatively robust industry and the problems that go along with it. It really never seemed to be that way here, and we had medical for many years before recreational. |
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Post by inkedup on Jun 25, 2018 20:15:36 GMT
I live in CA. I think the legalization of marijuana has had a positive effect on our state.
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Post by inkedup on Jun 25, 2018 20:20:54 GMT
It's legal for medical here, but they're still working out the kinks. With regards to pain management, I wish it was legal across the board, especially considering that the opoid crisis has greatly hindered options for those who truly suffer with chronic pain. Plus the lack of side effects is very appealing in comparison to high test pain meds. Opioid use has gone down in states where medical and recreational use are legal. I think it's nuts that marijuana is classified a Schedule I drug (along with heroin and cocaine), but hydrocodone is a Schedule II drug. |
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Post by bc2ca on Jun 25, 2018 20:22:48 GMT
It is a nonissue for me.
I have family/friends with chronic health issues (MS, cancer, back pain) that have had quality of life improvement through the use of marijuana.
I also don't have an issue with marijuana being treated like alcohol and being available legally to adults for recreational use.
I don't believe the availability of recreational or medical marijuana lead to an increase in use.
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Post by bc2ca on Jun 25, 2018 20:26:17 GMT
Random observation - it's been legal here for a few years now (and doing quite well, based on tax revenue and the number of retail shops there are) but I didn't realize until I was recently in San Jose how infrequently I smell pot in public here. I noticed it A LOT in San Jose, and the downtown area has very little housing so it must have been people in public. I rarely smell marijuana in public in Portland or elsewhere in Oregon. Interesting. The only place I have smelled marijuana in public has been at a concert or at the beach (rarely and always in a quiet, unlifeguarded area). |
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Post by maryannscraps on Jun 25, 2018 20:28:08 GMT
Medical marijuana has been legal in Massachusetts for a few years now. It's a big fat non-issue, except for the patients who now have a treatment that actually works to control their pain and help their appetite.
The state is working out the kinks for recreational marijuana -- the first dispensary was approved a few days ago.
With a husband who suffered severe nerve pain and nausea from a blood cancer, I am in total favor of it. I wish it had been in place when he was so ill. Maybe he wouldn't have been on such high opioid doses, along with other painkillers. He, fortunately, never had an addiction problem, but I think pot would have been much more effective for him with less side effects. Oxycontin and neurontin completely sucked.
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Post by stampnscrap1128 on Jun 25, 2018 20:47:57 GMT
This Oklahoman is voting YES tomorrow.
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Post by Peamac on Jun 25, 2018 20:55:47 GMT
Well in Colorado, about 96% of those getting med mj cards were men between the ages of 21 and 35 or so according to the Denver Post. Who knew so many men had "back pain" that could only be helped by med mj?  I know several people who are genuinely helped by it, some who moved from out of state so their children could be treated with it. Unfortunately they are in the minority of users. Then in a few years, people will want to make it legal to use recreationally, since so many are already doing so. That will lead to illegal grow house raids in expensive neighborhoods, sections of town smelling terrible (causing tourists to avoid once-popular areas), and pot shops everywhere. |
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Post by tracylynn on Jun 25, 2018 21:01:55 GMT
Medical marijuana has been legal in Oregon since 1999 and recreational since 2015. I have no problem with either. Obviously recreational is a bigger deal because it's a lot more people, including people who travel here specifically for that reason. But medical? Don't know why anyone would be against that. It's a non-issue.No one is against medical marijuana when it's for legitimate medical reasons. I have yet to hear of anyone who would look at a cancer patient and say "oh no take more opiods instead of marijuana" The controversy is I've yet to see a state that's implemented medical marijuana where it doesn't essentially become recreational marijuana. The prescriptions are ridiculously easy to obtain, and many of the issues regarding the industry are the same - but people are under the mistaken idea that it will be an extremely small issue as it's "just for medical". Anyone who votes for medical marijuana should make sure their state is prepared for a relatively robust industry and the problems that go along with it. What is "all the problems that go along with it"? We've had Medical for years and years and Recreational for 3 now. Things aren't going to hell in a hand bag by any means and tax revenue is way up. |
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Post by papersilly on Jun 25, 2018 21:07:33 GMT
when it was first passed in California for use with a card, my 80 year old (then) father-in-law used it to manage his COPD. when it recently passed for recreational use, DH and I bought the cream to manage arthritis pain and more recently, we bought the drops for pets to calm our skittish dog when the fireworks start going off. it's really helped my dog and DH says it helps his aches and pains. before it passed in CA, we never used the stuff but now that it's so readily available and the social stigma is essentially gone, we have no problem with it.
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Post by rodeomom on Jun 25, 2018 21:09:26 GMT
This Oklahoman is voting YES tomorrow. So will I. |
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Jun 25, 2018 21:14:32 GMT
when it was first passed in California for use with a card, my 80 year old (then) father-in-law used it to manage his COPD. when it recently passed for recreational use, DH and I bought the cream to manage arthritis pain and more recently, we bought the drops for pets to calm our skittish dog when the fireworks start going off. it's really helped my dog and DH says it helps his aches and pains. before it passed in CA, we never used the stuff but now that it's so readily available and the social stigma is essentially gone, we have no problem with it. What form do you give it to your dog in? |
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Post by peatlejuice on Jun 25, 2018 21:15:11 GMT
I'm not opposed to medical marijuana as a general rule, but I am voting no tomorrow (I'm not a Republican, if it matters). When/if I get onto a real laptop this evening, I'll outline my reasons for voting no, but it boils down to two things: 1. There are too many loopholes in the bill that I'm uncomfortable with, and 2. The state department of health is already corrupt and inept. It is way too easy (and likely) for them to fuck up administering a medical marijuana program here.
I do have to appreciate the person who decided these laws would begin as Section 420 of the applicable statute if passed, though.
Edited to add: I actually would rather see marijuana treated like alcohol and/or cigarettes across the board. If this bill were to address it in that manner, my vote would be different.
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Post by auntkelly on Jun 25, 2018 21:18:35 GMT
I’m an Oklahoma Republican and I’m voting yes.
I’ll be surprised if it doesn’t pass. I haven’t seen any polls, but most people I have talked to are voting yes.
The criticism I have heard from people voting no is that the bill is too vague, which I think is a fair criticism.
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Post by birukitty on Jun 25, 2018 21:21:50 GMT
Medical marijuana has been legal in Oregon since 1999 and recreational since 2015. I have no problem with either. Obviously recreational is a bigger deal because it's a lot more people, including people who travel here specifically for that reason. But medical? Don't know why anyone would be against that. It's a non-issue.No one is against medical marijuana when it's for legitimate medical reasons. I have yet to hear of anyone who would look at a cancer patient and say "oh no take more opiods instead of marijuana" The controversy is I've yet to see a state that's implemented medical marijuana where it doesn't essentially become recreational marijuana. The prescriptions are ridiculously easy to obtain, and many of the issues regarding the industry are the same - but people are under the mistaken idea that it will be an extremely small issue as it's "just for medical". Anyone who votes for medical marijuana should make sure their state is prepared for a relatively robust industry and the problems that go along with it. How do you know it's ridiculously easy to obtain? Have you had experience in this? Medical Marijuana passed in Maryland a bit ago but the pharmacies just recently opened. I'm applying to get my card because of my chronic migraines. At this point I'm getting them every other day to every day. The nerve block treatments I've been relying on are working less and less. This last one only worked for 9 days before my chronic migraines came back. It is my 4th or 5th treatment. The first one worked so well I only had 3 migraines in 4 weeks. Here in Maryland you have to apply online to the Maryland Government site. You need a passport photo and you can only apply once in one session. If you mess up your application that is it. You have to wait a year to apply again. Once your application is in it takes 5 weeks for the government to approve or disapprove it. If you get an approval you then have to make an appointment with a certain type of doctor and take your medical records there. You pay for this appointment out of your own pocket (I think it's $150.00) and this doctor looks over all of your records and decides if you are a good candidate or not for medical marijuana. If she/he decides you are then you get your medical marijuana card. I know it varies from state to state. Maybe in your state DarcyCollins the prescriptions are ridiculously easy to obtain. |
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Post by papersilly on Jun 25, 2018 21:23:31 GMT
when it was first passed in California for use with a card, my 80 year old (then) father-in-law used it to manage his COPD. when it recently passed for recreational use, DH and I bought the cream to manage arthritis pain and more recently, we bought the drops for pets to calm our skittish dog when the fireworks start going off. it's really helped my dog and DH says it helps his aches and pains. before it passed in CA, we never used the stuff but now that it's so readily available and the social stigma is essentially gone, we have no problem with it. What form do you give it to your dog in? drops in his mouth. you start off with 1/2ml and the regular dosage is 1ml twice a day. but he's been mellow at 1/2 ml so we will stick with that. or maybe go to 1ml only for July 4th since the block behind us has super loud fireworks going off every year. |
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Post by leftturnonly on Jun 25, 2018 21:26:24 GMT
Medical marijuana has been legal in Oregon since 1999 and recreational since 2015. I have no problem with either. Obviously recreational is a bigger deal because it's a lot more people, including people who travel here specifically for that reason. But medical? Don't know why anyone would be against that. It's a non-issue. Every republican I have tried to have a discussion with, but one, is voting No on this state question. In their minds, and their words, "it's a hippy liberal agenda for all the dopers to just get loaded all day and not work." They won't listen to anything regarding it otherwise. It's a frustrating attempt at a conversation. Yeah, not very helpful. Are you even old enough to remember hippies?  |
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Post by birukitty on Jun 25, 2018 21:32:22 GMT
As you know from my previous post Medical Marijuana has already passed in Maryland but if I were in the position of voting yes, or no in my state I'd vote yes-of course! Numerous studies have proven it's effectiveness as a pain reliever with little to no side effects so of course why not use it? Especially with the chronic pain patients who are now suffering so much because their pain medications are being reduced due to the opioid crisis, through no fault of their own. What are they supposed to do? Right now my severely chronic pain sister is trying to get by on a 1/3 of the pain medication she used to have simply because of the opioid crisis. She's used morphine for 20 years never once abusing it. Now she's in such severe pain because of the crack down she can barely make it through each day.
If there is a viable possibility out there that may help (Medical Marijuana) of course why not have it available? Put aside your own prejudices and think about your fellow man. Things can change for us in an instant. It could be you that ends up in chronic pain.
As for my sister I spoke to her on the phone yesterday and she's agreed to apply for Medical Marijuana. But she has to notify the pain clinic because she signed a contract that she won't use any illegal substances. She's a bit worried about that. I told her this was legal but she wasn't sure about it.
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Post by ellen on Jun 25, 2018 21:33:02 GMT
My former local rep was one of the most vocal supporters when Minnesota was looking to make medical marijuana legal. It's been legal for a couple years now and I don't think it's been a big deal here. It's helped a lot of people.
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I know several people who are genuinely helped by it, some who moved from out of state so their children could be treated with it. Unfortunately they are in the minority of users.
