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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 16:21:16 GMT
I saw earlier today that Nunes is 27 points down in his district, so he is running scared. trump is avoiding London, spending most of his trips at Bleinhemm Palace, Teresa Mays Country Estate, and Windsor castle having tea with the Queen. I suspect he is afraid of meeting his doppelganger, the dt balloon. Courts refused to give administration additional time to reunite immigrant children. Cohen hired a former Clinton Attorney. And the Kremlin and Russian Press are ridiculing the 8 Senators that spent the Forth of July in Russia, and those Senators came back saying that sanctions against Russia should be lifted Pompeo claims the negotiations with North Korea are going well, (after trump said it was a done deal) and North Korean claims US is using gangster tactics But dt golfed again today, so his Presidential activity is tweeting lies Blenheim Palace is not the PM's country residence it's Chequers. I read it as three separate locations, not two.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 16:30:16 GMT
Blenheim Palace is not the PM's country residence it's Chequers. I read it as three separate locations, not two. Oh maybe you're right but I doubt if he'll go there. Blenheim Palace is open to the public every day of the year except Christmas Day. There's nothing on their website to say they have closed it on the days he's here. I doubt very much they would let him mingle with every Tom Dick or Harry. It would be impossible from a point of view of security for him to go there if they didn't close it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 16:35:08 GMT
There were things trump could have done to make these payments to the insurance companies that help keep the premiums lower then they would have been without the payments.
trump and the Republicans like to boast the ACA wasn’t working but the only way they could “prove” it was by removing parts of it so it will fail. Which will result in higher than high premiums for folks then there would have been.
Another example of how dishonest and mean spirited the Republicans are by deliberately sabotage the ACA to make THEIR point.
David Axelrod....
“Before this @potus took office, health care premiums in ACA exchanges were stabilizing. Forecasts were positive. He has done everything he can since then to boost premiums and blow the markets up.”
From the N.Y. Times article.,,
“Health Insurers Warn of Market Turmoil as Trump Suspends Billions in Payments”
WASHINGTON — The Trump administration said Saturday that it was suspending a program that pays billions of dollars to insurers to stabilize health insurance markets under the Affordable Care Act, a freeze that could increase uncertainty in the markets and drive up premiums this fall.
Many insurers that enroll large numbers of unhealthy people depend on the “risk adjustment” payments, which are intended to reduce the incentives for insurers to seek out healthy consumers and shun those with chronic illnesses and other pre-existing conditions.
“Any action to stop disbursements under the risk adjustment program will significantly increase 2019 premiums for millions of individuals and small-business owners, and could result in far fewer health plan choices,” said Justine G. Handelman, a senior vice president of the Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association. “It will undermine Americans’ access to affordable care, particularly for those who need medical care the most.”
Trump administration officials said they decided to suspend payments under the program because of a ruling in February in Federal District Court in New Mexico. The judge tossed out the formula used to calculate payments, finding that it was flawed.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 8, 2018 16:40:01 GMT
Like everyone in the whole world can even afford formulas?!?!?! Or have access to formula? They certainly lack refrigeration for the open containers......
Relates back to they are pro-birth not pro-life............. Can't afford formula, too bad!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 8, 2018 16:46:51 GMT
. “It will undermine Americans’ access to affordable care, particularly for those who need medical care the most.” The elderly, disabled and kids will die... all in his plan!
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Post by artgirl1 on Jul 8, 2018 17:41:44 GMT
Blenheim Palace is not the PM's country residence it's Chequers. I wrote that as THREE separate stops, as written in several articles I read "The Trumps' visit is being called a "working" visit, and will not include much time in London, where the president is widely disliked and protest demonstrations are expected. They arrive Thursday evening and will be hosted by May at a black-tie dinner at Blenheim Palace, the ancestral home of the Spencer Churchill family and birthplace of Winston Churchill, located about two hours northwest of London.' 'On Friday, July 13, following a bilateral meeting on foreign policy issues with May at Chequers, the prime minister's country retreat, POTUS and FLOTUS "will then travel to Windsor Castle to meet The Queen," the statement said.' Three stops, then to Scotland for golf.
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Post by navymomk9 on Jul 8, 2018 18:59:41 GMT
I've been thinking that when this nightmare is over, it's going to make for a really good movie but I think it's going to have to be a series. HBO,Netflix,Hulu? My money is on Amazon. For Jeff Bezos to make a ton more money off Trump's shitshow of a presidency would be the sweetest. You know there's got to be screenwriters already on this.
If I had to break it down on what we know so far it would be at least a 10 part series. I can come up with the first 3.
Episode 1- "The Beginning"-How the Trump organization started their involvement with Russia. NY real estate,off shore banking,money laundering. Seeds of a presidential run are planted.
Episode 2-"Meanwhile in Moscow" The Kremlin ramps up their mission after having the good fortune of finding an asset who will prove to be more than a little willing to help in taking down their biggest adversary. Donald J.Trump announces his candidacy for President of the United States.
Episode 3-"Eyes & Ears"- U.S intelligence agencies begin receiving reports of known Russian agents having contact with American citizens in the political arena. Meanwhile, the FBI is seeing attempts of computer hacking and unusual social media misinformation,that is spreading.
Anybody want to add a couple of episodes?
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Post by heather on Jul 8, 2018 19:19:40 GMT
An episode of journalists covering the shitshow, rubbing their hands with maniacal glee thinking of ratings, while discussing the ethics of false equivalency.
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Post by navymomk9 on Jul 8, 2018 19:23:28 GMT
Blenheim Palace is not the PM's country residence it's Chequers. I wrote that as THREE separate stops, as written in several articles I read "The Trumps' visit is being called a "working" visit, and will not include much time in London, where the president is widely disliked and protest demonstrations are expected. They arrive Thursday evening and will be hosted by May at a black-tie dinner at Blenheim Palace, the ancestral home of the Spencer Churchill family and birthplace of Winston Churchill, located about two hours northwest of London.' 'On Friday, July 13, following a bilateral meeting on foreign policy issues with May at Chequers, the prime minister's country retreat, POTUS and FLOTUS "will then travel to Windsor Castle to meet The Queen," the statement said.' Three stops, then to Scotland for golf. Dear Lord in heaven please don't let him make an assholian speech like "If I was Churchill I would have been able to make a deal with Hitler. A really great deal. Hitler's fine. Nazi's are fine. We wouldn't have had D-Day. I could have saved America a lot of money. Elton John wouldn't even need a organ if I would have been in Churchill's shoes"
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Post by navymomk9 on Jul 8, 2018 19:38:02 GMT
An episode of journalists covering the shitshow, rubbing their hands with maniacal glee thinking of ratings, while discussing the ethics of false equivalency. I hope your talking about Fox,Brietbart,etc? It's because of good investigative journalists that a lot of this has come to light. It was journalist who tipped off Mueller that Manafort had a secret storage unit where he kept campaign/Ukraine connection evidence. It was journalist that found a Russian's private jet was at 2 different campaign stops at the same time as Trump. I'm so thankful for Woodwards and Bernsteins of this time in our history.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 20:23:47 GMT
Blenheim Palace is not the PM's country residence it's Chequers. I wrote that as THREE separate stops, as written in several articles I read "The Trumps' visit is being called a "working" visit, and will not include much time in London, where the president is widely disliked and protest demonstrations are expected. They arrive Thursday evening and will be hosted by May at a black-tie dinner at Blenheim Palace, the ancestral home of the Spencer Churchill family and birthplace of Winston Churchill, located about two hours northwest of London.' 'On Friday, July 13, following a bilateral meeting on foreign policy issues with May at Chequers, the prime minister's country retreat, POTUS and FLOTUS "will then travel to Windsor Castle to meet The Queen," the statement said.' Three stops, then to Scotland for golf. Yes I realized that it was three after @dknitter pointed it out. It will be in the evening so the palace will be shut to the public anyhow. ETA I've just checked the website and it does now say it will be closed for government business on the 11/12th July. That wasn't on there when I looked earlier.
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Post by artgirl1 on Jul 8, 2018 20:45:38 GMT
Dear Lord in heaven please don't let him make an assholian speech like "If I was Churchill I would have been able to make a deal with Hitler. A really great deal. Hitler's fine. Nazi's are fine. We wouldn't have had D-Day. I could have saved America a lot of money. Elton John wouldn't even need a organ if I would have been in Churchill's shoes" This is good. I am concerned that he may try to maul at the queen and do the grab and pull handshake. Hope his protocol office is schooling him that you DON'T TOUCH the Queen, and I hope she has her handbag firmly clasped in both hands. Oh, and you are suppose to bow to the Queen, and melanie is suppose to curtsy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 21:02:32 GMT
Dear Lord in heaven please don't let him make an assholian speech like "If I was Churchill I would have been able to make a deal with Hitler. A really great deal. Hitler's fine. Nazi's are fine. We wouldn't have had D-Day. I could have saved America a lot of money. Elton John wouldn't even need a organ if I would have been in Churchill's shoes" This is good. I am concerned that he may try to maul at the queen and do the grab and pull handshake. Hope his protocol office is schooling him that you DON'T TOUCH the Queen, and I hope she has her handbag firmly clasped in both hands. Oh, and you are suppose to bow to the Queen, and melanie is suppose to curtsy.Not really unless they choose to do so. A past private secretary, Dickie Arbiter wrote about this " myth" in a book some years ago.... “The Queen is very relaxed about it, she doesn’t make rules, she understands that some people feel comfortable doing this sort of thing and others don’t. People think she will ignore you if you haven’t curtsied, but the truth is nothing of the sort. “The whole thing about waiting for the Queen to speak first is also a myth. In reality, people are so tongue-tied when the Queen approaches them but she is only a human being after all. When she breaks the ice it gives a lead-in to start people talking.” A royal source said: “There is no protocol handbook at Buckingham Palace but people do tend to bow or curtsey to the Queen and that’s just good manners. But it’s true that no-one is obliged to do it. “As for waiting for the Queen to speak first, there is no hard and fast rule, the Queen just wants people to feel comfortable.”I hope to goodness he doesn't yank her towards him when he shakes hands, she's be on the floor in no time. She's very short, about 5ft
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Post by artgirl1 on Jul 8, 2018 21:09:48 GMT
I hope to goodness he doesn't yank her towards him when he shakes hands, she's be on the floor in no time. She's very short, about 5ft I have the utmost respect and admiration for your Queen. That's my concern, that he may to pull his macho 'I am more important than you persona' on her. And while I don't wish the Queen any ill health, she did pull out of an engagement last week because she was under the weather. Maybe she could have a headache that day? Also find it lovely that it was just announced that the King and Queen of Netherland have been invited and accepted an official State visit in October, so they will stay with the Queen, and have all the ceremony that dt wanted.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 21:21:11 GMT
I hope to goodness he doesn't yank her towards him when he shakes hands, she's be on the floor in no time. She's very short, about 5ft I have the utmost respect and admiration for your Queen. That's my concern, that he may to pull his macho 'I am more important than you persona' on her. And while I don't wish the Queen any ill health, she did pull out of an engagement last week because she was under the weather. Maybe she could have a headache that day?
Also find it lovely that it was just announced that the King and Queen of Netherland have been invited and accepted an official State visit in October, so they will stay with the Queen, and have all the ceremony that dt wanted. You have no idea how wonderful that would be to most people in this country. I'm actually fuming inside that they have put the Queen in this position but she'll carry it out with the grace that she has done in everything she's done all her life but I'm sure the poor woman will be seething inside. Bet he's livid that the Netherlands monarchy has the status of a state visit and he does not. He's probably more livid that Pres Obama did as well and that Pres Obama spoke to parliament too. It doesn't bear thinking about what kind of speech he would do if he'd been allowed to do that.
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Post by artgirl1 on Jul 8, 2018 21:27:26 GMT
do we think that the administration is going to meet the deadline to reunify the children separated from their parents?
From what I have read, there were 101 children under age 5 according to the Feds, but the list of children submitted Saturday lists less than 100. While it is a small numerical difference, I am concerned that the numbers are not consistant.
Also, one of the Federal Prosecutors told the Judge in the San Diego Hearing on Friday, that he couldn't work on the list, and other things the Judge ordered over this weekend, because he had 'dog-sitting duties'. Anyone see any irony in that?
And in regards to the DNA testing, if the minor child is separated from the parent, who can authorize the DNA testing. Isn't that a violation of the rights of both the child and the parent?
I think we have let the issue of the children fall into the background in the past couple of days, and am concerned that the Administration is just buying time, to allow the uproar to die down, then continue their 'policy' as they wish.
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Post by artgirl1 on Jul 8, 2018 21:29:10 GMT
You have no idea how wonderful that would be to most people in this country. I'm actually fuming inside that they have put the Queen in this position but she'll carry it out with the grace that she has done in everything she's done all her life but I'm sure the poor woman will be seething inside. Bet he's livid that the Netherlands monarchy has the status of a state visit and he does not. He's probably more livid that Pres Obama did as well and that Pres Obama spoke to parliament too. It doesn't bear thinking about what kind of speech he would do if he'd been allowed to do that. exactly my thoughts also. I thought the timing of the announcement on the Netherlands visit was priceless. A little bit of karma.
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Post by gar on Jul 8, 2018 22:02:12 GMT
You have no idea how wonderful that would be to most people in this country. I'm actually fuming inside that they have put the Queen in this position but she'll carry it out with the grace that she has done in everything she's done all her life but I'm sure the poor woman will be seething inside. Bet he's livid that the Netherlands monarchy has the status of a state visit and he does not. He's probably more livid that Pres Obama did as well and that Pres Obama spoke to parliament too. It doesn't bear thinking about what kind of speech he would do if he'd been allowed to do that. exactly my thoughts also. I thought the timing of the announcement on the Netherlands visit was priceless. A little bit of karma. Perfect I’d say!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 8, 2018 23:03:41 GMT
It has started! Texas property owners getting notices from Trump admin about surveying land for border wall: report BY MORGAN GSTALTER - 07/08/18 04:40 PM EDT South Texas property owners living along the U.S.–Mexico border have reportedly been getting notices from the federal government asking to survey their land for potential border wall construction. Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-Texas) told KENS 5 News that more than 200 requests have been made to residents in Starr and Hidalgo counties. The mayor of Escobares said he was contacted by the Army Corps of Engineers and U.S. Customs and Border Protection a few weeks ago for consent to survey his land. “I walk out the back door and what I’m going to see is a 30-foot fence,” Mayor Noel Escobar said. ** Garcia told the outlet that if he had known the survey was for possible border wall construction he wouldn’t have voted to approve it. Some homeowners in the area say the government is only offering them a fraction of the land's actual value. ** However, recent polling suggests that a majority of Americans don't support the construction of additional barriers along the U.S.–Mexico border. According to a Gallup poll from last month, 57 percent of Americans said they do not support additional border wall construction. More at link: thehill.com/homenews/administration/396027-texas-property-owners-getting-notices-from-trump-admin-about-buyingThis is going to cost the taxpayers a fortune, but I sure hope all the landowners fight for their land or at least decent payments..........
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Post by artgirl1 on Jul 9, 2018 0:07:47 GMT
The mayor of Escobares said he was contacted by the Army Corps of Engineers and U.S. Customs and Border Protection a few weeks ago for consent to survey his land. “I walk out the back door and what I’m going to see is a 30-foot fence,” Mayor Noel Escobar said. ** Garcia told the outlet that if he had known the survey was for possible border wall construction he wouldn’t have voted to approve it. Seriously, he didn't put two and two together! ANd didn't ask why? Another 'thinking' politician
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Post by artgirl1 on Jul 9, 2018 0:10:42 GMT
Re: Jim Jordan
I suspect that as time goes on more and more Republican 'secrets' will be outed. Some journalists are looking at everything, and more citizens are less afraid to stand up to the power some have exhibited.
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Post by imsirius on Jul 9, 2018 1:03:54 GMT
This makes me ill. Truly sick....
THIS is what Trump has enabled people to do.
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Post by moodyblue on Jul 9, 2018 1:16:22 GMT
OMG. That truly makes me sick.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 1:17:24 GMT
Fox News...
“VP Mike Pence vows to protect ICE: “Attacks on ICE by our political leaders must stop.”
How about the attacks on the FBI by you and other trump stooges?
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Jul 9, 2018 1:28:23 GMT
I can't keep up...wtf is he even saying? Is Rodney Dangerfield still alive? If he is, he needs to play Trump in the movie when they eventually do one about this train wreck of a presidency. When I read stuff like this, in my head it starts turning into a Dangerfield “I don’t get no respect” routine!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 1:51:55 GMT
This makes me ill. Truly sick.... THIS is what Trump has enabled people to do. "God doesn’t bless America. That’s not how this works. I’m sorry to break it to you, Bible Belt Christians—but that’s just how it is. I know this kinda wrecks the convenient narrative you’ve been working for the past 60 or so years (and hitting especially hard the past eighteen months), but honestly that nasty bit of heresy has done enough damage already and it needs to go. It’s straight-up of the devil. I’m not sure where you’re getting your taglines and hat slogans from, but I know it isn’t from the Bible. I know it isn’t from your coveted and regularly trotted out John 3:16: For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. God loved the world. God is in the world-loving business—not the America-blessing business." johnpavlovitz.com/2018/02/13/christian-nationalism-heresies/
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 3:53:26 GMT
This is absolutely insane and it didn’t have to be like this. This is on all on trump the asshole.
Boston Globe..
“1-year-old immigrant goes to court to get reunited with family”
From the article..
PHOENIX — The federal government is under a court order to reunite immigrant children with their families. But in the meantime, some children have had to appear in immigration courts without their parents for deportation proceedings.
A 1-year-old boy had a court appearance on Friday before an immigration judge in Phoenix. He drank milk from a bottle, played with a small purple ball, and occasionally asked for water before being called before the judge.
The immigration judge could hardly contain his unease with the situation during the portion of the hearing in which he asks immigrant defendants whether they understand the proceedings.
I’m embarrassed to ask it, because I don’t know who you would explain it to, unless you think that a 1-year-old could learn immigration law,’’ Judge John W. Richardson told the lawyer representing the boy.
The boy is one of hundreds of children who must be reunited with their parents after being separated at the border, many of them split from mothers and fathers as a result of the Trump administration’s ‘‘zero-tolerance policy.’’
The administration has asked for more time to reunite 101 children under 5 years old who were separated from their parents after crossing the border.
The original order set a deadline of Tuesday to reunite children under age 5 with their parents, and July 26 to reunite everyone else.
A federal judge in San Diego has scheduled a hearing for Monday on the request for a delay of some cases.
US District Judge Dana Sabraw ordered the Justice Department to share a list of the 101 children by Saturday with the American Civil Liberties Union, which successfully sued the administration to force the young children and families to be reunited.
Sabraw is hoping that by Monday, the two sides can agree on which of the children can be excused from the deadline while government officials seek more information on the parents’ claims.
Justice Department attorney Sarah Fabian told the judge that the government is deploying significant resources to ensure that children are being reunited with parents quickly.
The family separations have become an embarrassment to the administration as stories of crying children separated from mothers and kept apart for weeks on end dominated the news in recent weeks.
Critics have also seized on the nation’s immigration court system that requires children — some still in diapers — to have appearances before judges and go through deportation proceedings while separated from their parents.
Such children don’t have a right to a court-appointed attorney, and 90 percent of children without a lawyer are returned to their home countries, according to Kids in Need of Defense, a group that provides legal representation.
In Phoenix on Friday, the 1-year-old Honduran boy named Johan waited over an hour to see the judge. His attorney told Richardson that the boy’s father had brought him to the United States but they had been separated.
He said the father, who is now in Honduras, was removed from the country under false pretenses that he would be able to leave with his son.
For a while, the child wore shoes, but later he was in socks as he waited to see the judge. He was silent and calm for most of the hearing, though he cried for the few seconds that a worker handed him to another person while she gathered his diaper bag.
He is in the custody of the US Health and Human Services Department in Arizona.
Richardson said the boy’s case raised red flags over a court-ordered deadline to reunite young children with their families.
Richardson repeatedly told the Immigration and Customs Enforcement attorney who was acting as the prosecutor that he should make note of the cases involving young children because of the government’s obligation to meet the reunification deadline. The attorney said he wasn’t familiar with that deadline and that a different department within ICE handled such matters.
ICE spokeswoman Jennifer Elzea said the attorney was familiar with the injunction but didn’t know the specifics of the timetable offhand ‘‘and did not want to misspeak.’’
In the end, Johan was granted a voluntary departure order that will allow the government to fly him to Honduras so that he can be reunited with his family. An attorney with the Florence Project, an Arizona-based nonprofit that provides free legal help to immigrants, said both his mother and father are in Honduras.
The family separation issue is especially urgent for the parents of young children who are even more dependent on their mothers and fathers. Studies show that major stress at a very young age can create a lifetime of emotional and even physical problems.
Honduran immigrant Christian Granados has been separated from his 5-year-old daughter Cristhy for more than a month after they were detained in El Paso, Texas, attempting to enter the United States.
She was taken to a holding facility in Chicago, while he was released pending an asylum request on June 24.
For some separated families, the reunion will occur in Guatemala, Honduras, or El Salvador — the violence-plagued countries that many of them were fleeing.“
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Post by Merge on Jul 9, 2018 11:22:03 GMT
This makes me ill. Truly sick.... THIS is what Trump has enabled people to do. "God doesn’t bless America. That’s not how this works. I’m sorry to break it to you, Bible Belt Christians—but that’s just how it is. I know this kinda wrecks the convenient narrative you’ve been working for the past 60 or so years (and hitting especially hard the past eighteen months), but honestly that nasty bit of heresy has done enough damage already and it needs to go. It’s straight-up of the devil. I’m not sure where you’re getting your taglines and hat slogans from, but I know it isn’t from the Bible. I know it isn’t from your coveted and regularly trotted out John 3:16: For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. God loved the world. God is in the world-loving business—not the America-blessing business." johnpavlovitz.com/2018/02/13/christian-nationalism-heresies/Every Trump-loving "Christian" needs to read this. Should probably have its own thread.
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