|
|
Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 6, 2019 23:00:55 GMT
Her latest podcast delves into how an anxiety attack (brought on by the NSD incident) impacted her. It's divided into two parts so I don't know how it will end and I'm only 30 minutes in, but she's addressing her side of the incident (somewhat in a vague, not-taking-responsibility kind of way). so basically her anxiety issues are OUR fault; is that it?!? (because if we scrapbookers hadn't been mean to her, she wouldn't have had an anxiety attack?) I'm not listening to it- ever. I'd much rather read about it here. |
|
|
|
Post by mom on Jun 6, 2019 23:17:17 GMT
OK I am through part one. As someone who has struggled with anxiety and anxiety attacks, I find it HILARIOUS that Becky can have exactly one panic attack and then make such a recovery and come away so enlighten. Its been, what, a month since this started? And she's now an expert on getting through this? Well maybe she needs to teach my therapist her ways so I can finally learn my lesson so these attacks don't happen to me again. Holy batshit. She's crazy. She is such a poser. I find it so disingenuous that she loved the retreat and it helped her so much that she now needs to go and hijack their retreat and offer her own two cents in the form of a lecture. Gawwd lady. Get a grip. |
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Nov 28, 2024 20:35:57 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 23:41:07 GMT
Bit of interest. Looks like Movara used to be 'Fitness Ridge' (rebranded to Movara in 2015) which used to be 'Biggest Loser' resort (2010). All owned by Cameron and Michelle Kelsch. www.prweb.com/releases/2015/02/prweb12493315.htm“I just returned from my 4th stay at Movara (I had previously been when it was Biggest Loser Utah and Fitness Ridge).” in 5 reviews --- Yelp Looks like tons of crossover PR on Mormon podcasts - Marvelous Moms Club Podcast, Mompreneur, etc. The original Biggest Loser Resort in Ivins, Utah is moving away from the Biggest Loser brand and going back to its roots as Fitness Ridge, as originally founded in 2002. Co-founder Cameron Kelsch said of the change: --- www.dietsinreview.com/diet_column/07/the-biggest-loser-resort-in-utah-cites-a-relationship-breakdown-for-changing-name-back-to-fitness-ridge/"The Biggest Loser Resort at Fitness Ridge provides the most affordable, calorie-controlled, structured program in the weight loss resort industry. Selected to be the exclusive weight loss destination to NBC's television show "The Biggest Loser", The Resort offers a boot camp style program for men and women of any fitness level. Our interview today is with Michelle & Cameron Kelsch." On a YT site called "Mormon Entrepreneur" - Big surprise, right!?Youtube from 2010 - They look way more IG "curated" now. Owners are taking their 6 kids on the road this summer for one year in an RV: "Why we are leaving a beautiful 10,000 sq ft. home, work, friends, sports, and hobbies to travel in a 300 sq ft. RV for a year. During our fall break our family rented an RV and took a trip to Moab, Ut. As we were driving with our family all together with no football, baseball, basketball, friends, cheer, tumbling, or dance, I was reminded that we only have one more year before our oldest, Bryson, will be graduating from High School. Bryson was 1 when Cameron and I started Movara and although we love everything that our kids are involved in, between their busy schedules and our work, the past 17yrs have flown by. Although the years of diapers, nursing, and strollers I don’t miss, I do not want to look back and regret the many hours we were busy working. For years we have provided a life changing experience for over 18,000 guests. While driving with our kids in the RV, I had a life changing idea we could do as a family. I asked everyone what they thought about traveling around the United States for our last year together as a family. With 50 states and 52 weeks in a year, I thought we could visit each state for a week, give or take. As the idea evolved, I thought it would be fun to visit our guests that have come to Movara from all over the United States by hosting Morava events along the way where guests could reconnect and reset with a mini experience they could share with Family and Friends. We have had a very successful business and while being known as The Biggest Loser Resort from 2009-2014 we were very busy. Before and since the NBCs show, guests always say, “we are the best kept secret.” After 17 years of providing an effective program that has built its success off of repeat and referral customers, we are excited to let the secret out as we share our message of hope, support and improvement across the United States. We are excited for the memories, the education and the learning that will take place over the next 12 months. The timing of where we are in our business allows us to be away. We have an amazing staff who works hard to provide the life changing experience. We are very confident in their abilities while we are gone. We will continue to stay in constant communication but will also be letting them do what they do best. Michelle Kelsch | Founder" f8moves.com/our-why/ |
|
|
|
Post by refugeepea on Jun 6, 2019 23:59:03 GMT
The original Biggest Loser Resort in Ivins, Utah Maybe it's because my husband is from the general area, but Ivins? I guess because I lived in Southern Utah for a couple of years, when I think get away, I don't think St. George area! It is gorgeous, but it's got to be as hot as hell down there by now. 
p.s. I understand it's owned by Mormons. There are very different classes of Mormons and not everyone of them is into the social media, instagram, perfect mommy blogger kind of thing. I'm quite certain most have never heard of this place.
Also, who wants to follow a rich family "slumming" it in an RV? They have to be getting major tax breaks because they are promoting their business along the way. |
|
|
|
Post by linhaz on Jun 7, 2019 0:51:43 GMT
Her latest podcast delves into how an anxiety attack (brought on by the NSD incident) impacted her. It's divided into two parts so I don't know how it will end and I'm only 30 minutes in, but she's addressing her side of the incident (somewhat in a vague, not-taking-responsibility kind of way). so basically her anxiety issues are OUR fault; is that it?!? (because if we scrapbookers hadn't been mean to her, she wouldn't have had an anxiety attack?) I'm not listening to it- ever. I'd much rather read about it here. Same here, I will not listen to her. Glad to catch up here. She is still delusional if a week away cured her anxiety! |
|
|
|
Post by dasmith2 on Jun 7, 2019 3:11:25 GMT
OK I am through part one. As someone who has struggled with anxiety and anxiety attacks, I find it HILARIOUS that Becky can have exactly one panic attack and then make such a recovery and come away so enlighten. Its been, what, a month since this started? And she's now an expert on getting through this? Well maybe she needs to teach my therapist her ways so I can finally learn my lesson so these attacks don't happen to me again. Holy batshit. She's crazy. As someone who struggles with mental illness daily. She really pisses me off with this. If only I could go somewhere for a week and be cured 😡😔 |
|
|
|
Post by lasteve1 on Jun 7, 2019 13:22:19 GMT
With 50 states and 52 weeks in a year, I thought we could visit each state for a week, give or take. I'm curious to see how their plan to drive to Hawaii in an RV pans out... |
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Nov 28, 2024 20:35:57 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2019 13:28:30 GMT
With 50 states and 52 weeks in a year, I thought we could visit each state for a week, give or take. I'm curious to see how their plan to drive to Hawaii in an RV pans out...  I'm guessing there will be a TON of stays at LDS friends' houses, hotels, etc. The start of the trip seems a bit rocky as you can imagine for 8 people on top of each other in a confined space. |
|
auntmimi
Full Member
Posts: 471
Jun 22, 2018 18:55:37 GMT
|
Post by auntmimi on Jun 7, 2019 13:50:30 GMT
I think the magical cure is what really rubs me the wrong way. I get her husband is a doctor, but he's not trained in mental illness or how to treat anxiety disorders. I don't know how many mental health professionals they have at Movara either, but again, one week of sessions, exercise, and clean eating is not going to eliminate anxiety or control it in the long run for someone really struggling with it. So since she's cured now, the question is: Is she delusional to think she's all whole and healthy or did she just have a really bad day and felt better after her week-long several thousands' dollar spa week?
|
|
|
|
Post by mom on Jun 7, 2019 14:08:15 GMT
I think the magical cure is what really rubs me the wrong way. I get her husband is a doctor, but he's not trained in mental illness or how to treat anxiety disorders. I don't know how many mental health professionals they have at Movara either, but again, one week of sessions, exercise, and clean eating is not going to eliminate anxiety or control it in the long run for someone really struggling with it. So since she's cured now, the question is: Is she delusional to think she's all whole and healthy or did she just have a really bad day and felt better after her week-long several thousands' dollar spa week? Im gonna go with option B. |
|
|
|
Post by Citygirl on Jun 7, 2019 16:01:07 GMT
Idk if it’s a conspiracy or a big coincidence but I notice that all of these “creatives, mompreneurs, influencers, bossbabes” (whatever they want to call themselves) that I follow often post about the same exact things within days or weeks of each other. Mental illness seems to be a showing up a lot lately.
|
|
|
|
Post by lasteve1 on Jun 7, 2019 16:16:52 GMT
I'm curious to see how their plan to drive to Hawaii in an RV pans out... I'm guessing there will be a TON of stays at LDS friends' houses, hotels, etc. The start of the trip seems a bit rocky as you can imagine for 8 people on top of each other in a confined space. I was referring to the 2000+ miles of ocean between the continental US and Hawaii, but those are all good points too... |
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Nov 28, 2024 20:35:57 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2019 16:49:16 GMT
I'm guessing there will be a TON of stays at LDS friends' houses, hotels, etc. The start of the trip seems a bit rocky as you can imagine for 8 people on top of each other in a confined space. I was referring to the 2000+ miles of ocean between the continental US and Hawaii, but those are all good points too... Yes. Agree. That's what the smiley was about. Good trick if they can pull it off, though, right? |
|
julie5
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 3,621 
|
Post by julie5 on Jun 7, 2019 16:53:39 GMT
I think the magical cure is what really rubs me the wrong way. I get her husband is a doctor, but he's not trained in mental illness or how to treat anxiety disorders. I don't know how many mental health professionals they have at Movara either, but again, one week of sessions, exercise, and clean eating is not going to eliminate anxiety or control it in the long run for someone really struggling with it. So since she's cured now, the question is: Is she delusional to think she's all whole and healthy or did she just have a really bad day and felt better after her week-long several thousands' dollar spa week? Exactly. I’m not trying to throw shade at anyone’s struggle with mental illness but as an adult who requires many meds to function in a somewhat decent manner, I take offense to her week long spa stay being the cure. It’s like those religious people who tell me I’m depressed because I didn’t pray hard enough. Yeah sure, the chemical imbalance has nothing to do with it. |
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Nov 28, 2024 20:35:57 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2019 17:20:10 GMT
I think the magical cure is what really rubs me the wrong way. I get her husband is a doctor, but he's not trained in mental illness or how to treat anxiety disorders. I don't know how many mental health professionals they have at Movara either, but again, one week of sessions, exercise, and clean eating is not going to eliminate anxiety or control it in the long run for someone really struggling with it. So since she's cured now, the question is: Is she delusional to think she's all whole and healthy or did she just have a really bad day and felt better after her week-long several thousands' dollar spa week? Exactly. I’m not trying to throw shade at anyone’s struggle with mental illness but as an adult who requires many meds to function in a somewhat decent manner, I take offense to her week long spa stay being the cure. It’s like those religious people who tell me I’m depressed because I didn’t pray hard enough. Yeah sure, the chemical imbalance has nothing to do with it. Right?! It also pissed me off as someone with ptsd, ocd, and anxiety AND two kids with ptsd, anxiety, and ocd. |
|
|
|
Post by scrapaddict702 on Jun 7, 2019 18:05:45 GMT
OK I am through part one. As someone who has struggled with anxiety and anxiety attacks, I find it HILARIOUS that Becky can have exactly one panic attack and then make such a recovery and come away so enlighten. Its been, what, a month since this started? And she's now an expert on getting through this? Well maybe she needs to teach my therapist her ways so I can finally learn my lesson so these attacks don't happen to me again. Holy batshit. She's crazy. As someone who struggles with mental illness daily. She really pisses me off with this. If only I could go somewhere for a week and be cured 😡😔  I have legitimate mental health issues that boil down to depression and severe anxiety. They are currently untreated (because it isn't convenient to make time for self care when you're a SAHM) and I'm doing my very best to self manage without having a complete meltdown most days. Becky was cornered into a situation of HER OWN MAKING and couldn't handle taking responsibility for her actions like an adult and needed to find a way to blame everyone else for something entirely caused by her. This is not a mental health issue. This isn't an anxiety issue. This is finding an excuse to once again avoid real world consequences for her actions. This is being upset that she momentarily found herself out of her comfort zone with more telling her she was WRONG for shitting on our hobby on our holiday than kissing her ass and excusing her self-centered behavior. This wasn't trauma...this was discomfort. End of story.
She is quite a disgusting human being isn't she? Trying to hijack and profit off of mental illness she doesn't even have or even comprehend the magnitude of. How about you hijack mental illnesses you do have, Becky? Like narcissism? Perhaps psychopathy?
|
|
|
|
Post by dasmith2 on Jun 7, 2019 18:39:18 GMT
As someone who struggles with mental illness daily. She really pisses me off with this. If only I could go somewhere for a week and be cured 😡😔 I have legitimate mental health issues that boil down to depression and severe anxiety. They are currently untreated (because it isn't convenient to make time for self care when you're a SAHM) and I'm doing my very best to self manage without having a complete meltdown most days. Becky was cornered into a situation of HER OWN MAKING and couldn't handle taking responsibility for her actions like an adult and needed to find a way to blame everyone else for something entirely caused by her. This is not a mental health issue. This isn't an anxiety issue. This is finding an excuse to once again avoid real world consequences for her actions. This is being upset that she momentarily found herself out of her comfort zone with more telling her she was WRONG for shitting on our hobby on our holiday than kissing her ass and excusing her self-centered behavior. This wasn't trauma...this was discomfort. End of story.
She is quite a disgusting human being isn't she? Trying to hijack and profit off of mental illness she doesn't even have or even comprehend the magnitude of. How about you hijack mental illnesses you do have, Becky? Like narcissism? Perhaps psychopathy?
((Hugs)) 💕 I have Complex PTSD, severe anxiety and major depressive disorder I think it’s called who knows what else 😂🤦♀️ Daily struggle is an understatement. I’m not at all surprised she decided to do this. I am so beyond disgusted, angered, saddened it’s such a slap in the face. The all powerful Becky spent a week away and had one panic attack and is ready to help us guys! What bothers me the most is that ones mental health is not something to be screwing around with EVER. You don’t implement that kind of responsibility for helping others without knowing what the @;?!@@$&. you’re doing. It can have serious consequences you can seriously do more harm than good here omg I’m so damn angry at her for making this into yet another money grab 😡😡🤬 |
|
|
|
Post by lisacharlotte on Jun 7, 2019 18:56:03 GMT
So she whines about how she “doesn’t take a break” from her exhausting #bossbabe job. Makes a big deal about her vacation to Venice where she spent all her time making it about “work” by “documenting” the trip. Now she’s gonna unplug by taking a year long trip around the country, but tie it to work? WTF with this chick?!?!
If I only knew all my “cultivating a good life and documenting it” was a god damn job. Why am I not getting a paycheck for that? BH has a ridiculously inflated idea about how hard her job is. Maybe if she treated it more as an actual job, branded PL might not be circling the drain.
|
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Nov 28, 2024 20:35:57 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2019 19:00:48 GMT
So she whines about how she “doesn’t take a break” from her exhausting #bossbabe job. Makes a big deal about her vacation to Venice where she spent all her time making it about “work” by “documenting” the trip. Now she’s gonna unplug by taking a year long trip around the country, but tie it to work? WTF with this chick?!?! If I only knew all my “cultivating a good life and documenting it” was a god damn job. Why am I not getting a paycheck for that? BH has a ridiculously inflated idea about how hard her job is. Maybe if she treated it more as an actual job, branded PL might not be circling the drain. Okay maybe because I am super tired from dealing with a sick kid, but BH isn't taking a trip. I believe posters were referencing another blogger who is on a year long RV trip. But someone correct me if I am wrong. And yes to the rest of your post! Ugh she drives me crazy! |
|
|
|
Post by lisacharlotte on Jun 7, 2019 19:54:27 GMT
I’ll have to listen again. I swear her and BP we’re talking about how they would turn something like that into a work thing. It may very well have been a hypothetical but it’s tone deaf after the bitching about how over worked she is (which I can’t help but roll my eyes at every time I type that). How she doesn’t unplug and enjoy. 🙄
|
|
|
|
Post by wendifful on Jun 8, 2019 1:40:23 GMT
I was referring to the 2000+ miles of ocean between the continental US and Hawaii, but those are all good points too... Yes. Agree. That's what the smiley was about. Good trick if they can pull it off, though, right? Jesus walked on water, so an RV full of believers should definitely be able to get to Hawaii! (Reminds me of one time at work when one of the junior managers shipped a package to Hawaii with "ground" shipping. Uh, it doesn't work that way...) |
|
|
|
Post by joylynaroundthebnd on Jun 8, 2019 4:06:56 GMT
I too suffer from Major Depressive Disorder and Anxiety. Personally, I think she is trying to gain sympathy by using Anxiety as the reason for her stay at the retreat. It is hard to accept criticism when you are surrounded by "yes people". I feel bad for her team; has she just dropped them for now? Pretty sure they still work for her but it seems the fun work environment is gone.
I appreciate her trying to expand/rebrand her business, but alienating your current client base cannot be good for business. I keep following her because I hope one day something will change. How hard is it to practice what you preach and continue to show us you "document" during the changes in life.
Her IG stories are irritating because we are not in on all the inside jokes she and Becky have. Most of her videos should be kept personal and not on public blast.
Hopefully all of that makes sense. I have a lot of thoughts on this subject.
|
|
|
|
Post by mcjunkin on Jun 8, 2019 4:37:21 GMT
((Hugs)) 💕 I have Complex PTSD, severe anxiety and major depressive disorder I think it’s called who knows what else 😂🤦♀️ Daily struggle is an understatement. I’m not at all surprised she decided to do this. I am so beyond disgusted, angered, saddened it’s such a slap in the face. The all powerful Becky spent a week away and had one panic attack and is ready to help us guys! What bothers me the most is that ones mental health is not something to be screwing around with EVER. You don’t implement that kind of responsibility for helping others without knowing what the @;?!@@$&. you’re doing. It can have serious consequences you can seriously do more harm than good here omg I’m so damn angry at her for making this into yet another money grab 😡😡🤬 She did not have a PANIC attack. She had an ANXIETY attack. Sheesh, get it right. Go back and listen to part one again. She has done her research over the last couple weeks, you know...on the internet...so she knows the difference. Even Becky P., diagnosed and under dr care, doesn’t know the difference. SMH Anybody else hear her rambling about Movara and think of the Vince Vaughn movie “Couples Retreat”? That is all I could picture. She talks about it almost in a cult-like way. |
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Nov 28, 2024 20:35:57 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2019 6:00:10 GMT
Anxiety Attack?  She's claiming to be emotionally stable? I have anxiety and panic attacks. The debilitating kind. I am going out on a limb that all who suffer anxiety, panic, GAD that we think emotional stability and anxiety are NOT in the same realm. Oh Becky just for your info because you know you are just such an expert. You can't cure anxiety. You can take steps to control it. Big difference. Also for your information it takes time for your body and mind to recover from a bad anxiety/panic attack. It's not a week getting a massage. Most anxiety sufferer's also don't like being touched. We are all not running out getting massages. That causes another attack. I can keep going Becky on picking holes into your fake anxiety attack here. Yes, beautiful ladies I am really angry about this. I hate these con artists trying to make money off of those who are in a weakened position. She's just a snake. She really does not get it (I do think she really does). She comes off as mean as can be. She is just a mean person. Not a mean girl just a downright mean person. So she's into her religion now. I didn't know there was a religion of being mean. I don't get her. I am glad I really don't. If I did get her then I would be wondering what was wrong with me. I use to think she was such a decent person. I love social media. We see these women's true colors now don't we? They keep bringing it on like a sick obsession. Oh Becky just for your info (again) maybe you should have thought about the horrible anxiety you caused that dear lady on NSD with your terrible behavior. Hugs to my anxiety/panic sisters. I know it sucks. Really, really, really sucks. We are so normal and have to live with this nightmare thing that is so hard to control. Then we have bitches who make light of it so they can make a dollar. I am so effing angry about this. |
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Nov 28, 2024 20:35:57 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2019 14:02:50 GMT
Yes. Agree. That's what the smiley was about. Good trick if they can pull it off, though, right? Jesus walked on water, so an RV full of believers should definitely be able to get to Hawaii! (Reminds me of one time at work when one of the junior managers shipped a package to Hawaii with "ground" shipping. Uh, it doesn't work that way...) It's just so nuts to think about 8 people in that tiny space. But in the first week, they've already showered at "the hotel" and had dinner out. So, I think it's going to be a LOT of that in the future as it must be nuts to shower 8 people in one RV bath and to cook/clean for 8 people in one RV kitchen --- FOR A YEAR! |
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Nov 28, 2024 20:35:57 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2019 14:04:53 GMT
Idk if it’s a conspiracy or a big coincidence but I notice that all of these “creatives, mompreneurs, influencers, bossbabes” (whatever they want to call themselves) that I follow often post about the same exact things within days or weeks of each other. Mental illness seems to be a showing up a lot lately. I seriously think any LDS influencers w/a lot of followers get some sort of "direction" from the "elders" and, of course, tons of cross-over "you go on my podcast, I'll go on yours". Either of which would mean there is a lot of similarity in their topics. |
|
julie5
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 3,621
|
Post by julie5 on Jun 8, 2019 14:38:29 GMT
Jesus walked on water, so an RV full of believers should definitely be able to get to Hawaii! (Reminds me of one time at work when one of the junior managers shipped a package to Hawaii with "ground" shipping. Uh, it doesn't work that way...) It's just so nuts to think about 8 people in that tiny space. But in the first week, they've already showered at "the hotel" and had dinner out. So, I think it's going to be a LOT of that in the future as it must be nuts to shower 8 people in one RV bath and to cook/clean for 8 people in one RV kitchen --- FOR A YEAR! My family of 4 is ready to kill each other after a week in a hotel room. We want to get a camper but not to live in for a year. Lol |
|
|
|
Post by karinec on Jun 8, 2019 15:12:04 GMT
With 50 states and 52 weeks in a year, I thought we could visit each state for a week, give or take. I'm curious to see how their plan to drive to Hawaii in an RV pans out... hahahahaha |
|
|
|
Post by karinec on Jun 8, 2019 15:29:38 GMT
After a tough week of not knowing whether I would sink or swim, mental health wise, I appreciate the fact that I'm not alone in my daily fight. Thank you ladies for sharing your struggles, it helps me feel less alone.
I don't want to sidetrack this thread, just want to express my appreciation.
|
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Nov 28, 2024 20:35:57 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2019 15:57:18 GMT
After a tough week of not knowing whether I would sink or swim, mental health wise, I appreciate the fact that I'm not alone in my daily fight. Thank you ladies for sharing your struggles, it helps me feel less alone. I don't want to sidetrack this thread, just want to express my appreciation. Hugs to you and all of us dealing with it |
|
I have legitimate mental health issues that boil down to depression and severe anxiety. They are currently untreated (because it isn't convenient to make time for self care when you're a SAHM) and I'm doing my very best to self manage without having a complete meltdown most days. Becky was cornered into a situation of HER OWN MAKING and couldn't handle taking responsibility for her actions like an adult and needed to find a way to blame everyone else for something entirely caused by her. This is not a mental health issue. This isn't an anxiety issue. This is finding an excuse to once again avoid real world consequences for her actions. This is being upset that she momentarily found herself out of her comfort zone with more telling her she was WRONG for shitting on our hobby on our holiday than kissing her ass and excusing her self-centered behavior. This wasn't trauma...this was discomfort. End of story.
She's claiming to be emotionally stable? I have anxiety and panic attacks. The debilitating kind. I am going out on a limb that all who suffer anxiety, panic, GAD that we think emotional stability and anxiety are NOT in the same realm. 