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Post by twoboyzmom on Jul 20, 2018 14:09:08 GMT
So I have a new tablet. Everytime I opened the tablet there are ads. Figured out how to disable those. And I was charged $17 to do it!? Does that seem right??
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Post by wellway on Jul 20, 2018 14:13:51 GMT
When you buy a fire you have the option to buy it with ads or without. The without option is dearer so I guess if you want to cancel ads later when it's arrived, there is going to be a charge.
Eta They call it with special offers or without special offers. The without is ten pounds dearer in the UK
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Post by ginacivey on Jul 20, 2018 14:16:29 GMT
yes - you pay to get rid of the ads
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Post by AN on Jul 20, 2018 14:17:31 GMT
If you already paid it online, you're pretty much SOL. Yes, that is standard.
However, just a tip for others - at least with Kindle ereaders, if you contact customer service and ask to have the ads removed, they'll do it for free most of the time. You might have to push a little (for example, if they say it will be a $20 charge, tell them nevermind), but they'll come back and say they'll remove it at no cost one time as a "customer service."
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Post by twoboyzmom on Jul 20, 2018 14:18:38 GMT
Wow that really stinks. Oh well lesson learned
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Post by dewryce on Jul 20, 2018 16:16:12 GMT
That's ridiculous.
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Post by MsKnit on Jul 20, 2018 16:21:35 GMT
My Kindle has the ads. I debated spending the extra money. Then, was pleasantly surprised it's only the occasional thing on the unlock page. They are interspersed with some cool pics. It's a few years old.
So, have they changed the number of ads?
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Post by Basket1lady on Jul 20, 2018 16:22:36 GMT
When you buy a fire you have the option to buy it with ads or without. The without option is dearer so I guess if you want to cancel ads later when it's arrived, there is going to be a charge. Eta They call it with special offers or without special offers. The without is ten pounds dearer in the UK Exactly. You are getting a discount to have the ads on your device. If you don’t want the ads, you pay the regular price. I have my Kindle with ads, but they only show up on the home screen. As soon as I swipe to read, the ads are gone. They only appear when the device is off and before I swipe. They really have no impact on me whatsoever. |
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Post by dewryce on Jul 20, 2018 16:50:27 GMT
When you buy a fire you have the option to buy it with ads or without. The without option is dearer so I guess if you want to cancel ads later when it's arrived, there is going to be a charge. Eta They call it with special offers or without special offers. The without is ten pounds dearer in the UK Exactly. You are getting a discount to have the ads on your device. If you don’t want the ads, you pay the regular price. I have my Kindle with ads, but they only show up on the home screen. As soon as I swipe to read, the ads are gone. They only appear when the device is off and before I swipe. They really have no impact on me whatsoever. Is it truly a discount for the ads, or did they just raise the price for no ads? |
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Post by Basket1lady on Jul 20, 2018 18:05:39 GMT
Exactly. You are getting a discount to have the ads on your device. If you don’t want the ads, you pay the regular price. I have my Kindle with ads, but they only show up on the home screen. As soon as I swipe to read, the ads are gone. They only appear when the device is off and before I swipe. They really have no impact on me whatsoever. Is it truly a discount for the ads, or did they just raise the price for no ads? According to this site, yes. The ads began appearing on Amazon devices in 2011. I bought my Paperwhite in 2013. At that time, the ad program had been out for a while, and the Paperwhite for about a year. Yes, it was definitely cheaper. Sure, they can raise the prices of the devices to offset the discount, but doesn't every company? It's not like Amazon is hiding that they charge more for an ad-free device--you have to choose between with ads/without ads when you buy it. I've never had an Amazon tablet, so I can't say how annoying the ads are. But if the company makes money off the ads, I can see why they build in an additional cost for no ads. Just like Hulu does, and tons of apps do the same. There's a reason why Jeff Bezos is the richest man in America--he's built an empire convincing us that we need our packages in 2 days! |
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Post by dewryce on Jul 20, 2018 18:20:54 GMT
Is it truly a discount for the ads, or did they just raise the price for no ads? According to this site, yes. The ads began appearing on Amazon devices in 2011. I bought my Paperwhite in 2013. At that time, the ad program had been out for a while, and the Paperwhite for about a year. Yes, it was definitely cheaper. Sure, they can raise the prices of the devices to offset the discount, but doesn't every company? It's not like Amazon is hiding that they charge more for an ad-free device--you have to choose between with ads/without ads when you buy it. I've never had an Amazon tablet, so I can't say how annoying the ads are. But if the company makes money off the ads, I can see why they build in an additional cost for no ads. Just like Hulu does, and tons of apps do the same. There's a reason why Jeff Bezos is the richest man in America--he's built an empire convincing us that we need our packages in 2 days! I see what you're saying. But to me, this is different. One is buying hardware, the other is buying a service. I can see paying extra for ad free service. But not for an ad free physical device that you outright own. Especially the Kindle where you have to then buy books to use the device. Heck, even the tablet you have to then buy the Internet service to use it. That's two layers of ads right there. I get that people are aiming to make money, this just seems over the top to me. eta: On the service companies lose out on traditional ad revenue so they want to recoup that. Reasonable. On the device, companies are losing out on added/forced ad revenue, just another way to make a buck. What's next that we add ads to? My phone just started ads with the last update. Nope. Not okay with that. There comes a point in time where it is just greedy, but people pay it because they don't want to be bombarded with ads every second of every day. |
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Post by lucyg on Jul 20, 2018 18:24:28 GMT
Wow that really stinks. Oh well lesson learned It really doesn't stink. You have to choose with ads = cheaper, or without ads = costs more. You chose without ads. |
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Post by twoboyzmom on Jul 20, 2018 18:25:22 GMT
Wow that really stinks. Oh well lesson learned It really doesn't stink. You have to choose with ads = cheaper, or without ads = costs more. You chose without ads. Never knew there was a difference. It was a prime day special and I ordered it...didnt know there were different ones.. |
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Post by lucyg on Jul 20, 2018 18:27:13 GMT
According to this site, yes. The ads began appearing on Amazon devices in 2011. I bought my Paperwhite in 2013. At that time, the ad program had been out for a while, and the Paperwhite for about a year. Yes, it was definitely cheaper. Sure, they can raise the prices of the devices to offset the discount, but doesn't every company? It's not like Amazon is hiding that they charge more for an ad-free device--you have to choose between with ads/without ads when you buy it. I've never had an Amazon tablet, so I can't say how annoying the ads are. But if the company makes money off the ads, I can see why they build in an additional cost for no ads. Just like Hulu does, and tons of apps do the same. There's a reason why Jeff Bezos is the richest man in America--he's built an empire convincing us that we need our packages in 2 days! I see what you're saying. But to me, this is different. One is buying hardware, the other is buying a service. I can see paying extra for ad free service. But not for an ad free physical device that you outright own. Especially the Kindle where you have to then buy books to use the device. Heck, even the tablet you have to then buy the Internet service to use it. That's two layers of ads right there. I get that people are aiming to make money, this just seems over the top to me. eta: On the service companies lose out on traditional ad revenue so they want to recoup that. Reasonable. On the device, companies are losing out on added/forced ad revenue, just another way to make a buck. What's next that we add ads to? My phone just started ads with the last update. Nope. Not okay with that. There comes a point in time where it is just greedy, but people pay it because they don't want to be bombarded with ads every second of every day. I don't have a problem with it. Maybe you'd feel better about it if you looked at it as getting a discount in return for your willingness to see the ads. When I bought my mom a Kindle reader as a birthday gift, I chose no ads. But for me ... meh, I'll take the ads.  |
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Post by Basket1lady on Jul 20, 2018 18:28:02 GMT
According to this site, yes. The ads began appearing on Amazon devices in 2011. I bought my Paperwhite in 2013. At that time, the ad program had been out for a while, and the Paperwhite for about a year. Yes, it was definitely cheaper. Sure, they can raise the prices of the devices to offset the discount, but doesn't every company? It's not like Amazon is hiding that they charge more for an ad-free device--you have to choose between with ads/without ads when you buy it. I've never had an Amazon tablet, so I can't say how annoying the ads are. But if the company makes money off the ads, I can see why they build in an additional cost for no ads. Just like Hulu does, and tons of apps do the same. There's a reason why Jeff Bezos is the richest man in America--he's built an empire convincing us that we need our packages in 2 days! I see what you're saying. But to me, this is different. One is buying hardware, the other is buying a service. I can see paying extra for ad free service. But not for an ad free physical device that you outright own. Especially the Kindle where you have to then buy books to use the device. Heck, even the tablet you have to then buy the Internet service to use it. That's two layers of ads right there. I get that people are aiming to make money, this just seems over the top to me. I'm sorry that you are upset. Yes, there are multiple layers designed to make money. Maybe you would be happier with an iPad? There are no start up ads on it--just the photo that I chose as my screensaver. Of course, they are twice the amount of an Amazon tablet, but they are ad free until you get to individual apps/sites. Personally, I don't care about the ads on my Kindle. I really don't look at them. |
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Post by Basket1lady on Jul 20, 2018 18:33:16 GMT
It really doesn't stink. You have to choose with ads = cheaper, or without ads = costs more. You chose without ads. Never knew there was a difference. It was a prime day special and I ordered it...didnt know there were different ones.. If you bought a device in the last 7 or so years, you would have had to make a choice between ads vs no ads. Esp if you just bought it this week. If you go to the Paperwhite listing, it then directs you to choose between black or white, ads/no ads, wifi vs cellular, registered vs gift (user registers it). I'm not sure what device you purchased, but the Fire has similar choices. |
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jul 20, 2018 18:36:25 GMT
I have a paperwhite with ads. I only see the ad when I first turn on before I start reading.
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Post by dewryce on Jul 20, 2018 18:42:41 GMT
I see what you're saying. But to me, this is different. One is buying hardware, the other is buying a service. I can see paying extra for ad free service. But not for an ad free physical device that you outright own. Especially the Kindle where you have to then buy books to use the device. Heck, even the tablet you have to then buy the Internet service to use it. That's two layers of ads right there. I get that people are aiming to make money, this just seems over the top to me. I'm sorry that you are upset. Yes, there are multiple layers designed to make money. Maybe you would be happier with an iPad? There are no start up ads on it--just the photo that I chose as my screensaver. Of course, they are twice the amount of an Amazon tablet, but they are ad free until you get to individual apps/sites. Personally, I don't care about the ads on my Kindle. I really don't look at them. I'm currently peaing on an iPad.  Ads make me, to use a great pea term, stabby. I don't even listen on the radio, I switch stations. DH knows to mute the TV when he is watching and they come on. And those are what I'd consider legitimate, not greedy ads. LOL. I just don't believe we should have to pay extra money to be ad free on our electronic devices and it feels like we are headed that way. Squeeze every nickel out of us that they can. Thinking about it, besides the greed aspect, it is an extraneous step issue with me. In my life I get rid of "extras." Physically that means donating items we don't use around the house, deleting unused applications on my electronic devices (it drives me crazy when I can't), and I even hide all the phamplets and brochures they leave laying around our hotel rooms as soon as I walk in the door. In my actions, that means taking away excess steps for anything I routinely do from cleaning to scrapping. So when they want to charge me to NOT add in that extra step for my phone, tablet, or Ereader...it rankles. This aspect of it is my issue and I own it  |
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Post by Mary Kay Lady on Jul 20, 2018 21:09:41 GMT
So I have a new tablet. Everytime I opened the tablet there are ads. Figured out how to disable those. And I was charged $17 to do it!? Does that seem right?? It's a one-time fee, if I recall correctly. Your Kindle will last for years. (I've had mine for about 8 years.) So when you look at it that way, it's just a dollar or 2 per year to have an ad-free Kindle. How much was your Kindle on Prime Day? Is it a Kindle Fire? I'm just curious. |
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 20, 2018 21:31:14 GMT
I actually have chosen to read a couple of the books that had an ad on my kindle.
Otherwise, I just see it as a start up screen that changes
And yes, the charge is right. It is the difference between a normal and an ad-gree device
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Ads make me, to use a great pea term, stabby. I don't even listen on the radio, I switch stations. DH knows to mute the TV when he is watching and they come on. And those are what I'd consider legitimate, not greedy ads. LOL. I just don't believe we should have to pay extra money to be ad free on our electronic devices and it feels like we are headed that way. Squeeze every nickel out of us that they can. 
