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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 18, 2018 19:01:08 GMT
They're not defending the Emoluments Clause; they're battling it to defend Trump. Right...... Worded awkwardly on my part.......
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 18, 2018 19:12:51 GMT
GOP senator: If Trump colluded with Russia the world would already knowBY JACQUELINE THOMSEN - 08/18/18 02:54 PM EDT Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.) pushed back against former CIA director John Brennan’s claims that there is evidence of President Trump colluding with Russia during the 2016 election, saying if there was “the entire world would already know.” “If there is a scintilla of evidence that the president colluded with the Russians and Brennan had that evidence, the entire world would already know,” Scott told Fox News’ Neil Cavuto on Saturday. ** The former CIA director’s argument centered around Trump’s public statements and media reports on the ties between the Trump campaign and Moscow. “So the fact of the matter is, a part of what he said in his op-ed is that the president’s public comments suggest collusion,” Scott said on Saturday. “I think that’s ridiculous.” ** More at link: thehill.com/homenews/senate/402483-gop-senator-if-trump-colluded-with-russia-the-world-would-already-knowI read this that Scott is saying that if Brennan had the information he would have told it publicly. Brennan did not so he has not violated release of secret info. WE all still have no idea WHAT Mueller knows!!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 18, 2018 19:41:17 GMT
White House counsel has spent 30 hours sharing detailed accounts with Mueller: report BY TAL AXELROD - 08/18/18 02:26 PM EDT White House counsel Donald McGahn has been cooperating with special counsel Robert Mueller in his probe into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, according to an explosive New York Times report published Saturday. McGahn has reportedly discussed accounts of multiple episodes at the center of Mueller's probe into whether President Trump obstructed justice. Multiple sources told the Times that McGahn has had three voluntary interviews with Mueller's team totaling 30 hours. ** McGahn began cooperating with Mueller's team last year after Trump’s first round of personal lawyers decided to give investigators as much information as possible, believing the president had nothing to hide, the newspaper noted. However, the Times reports that McGahn became concerned over his growing exposure in the investigation and began to suspect the president was setting him up to take the fall for any alleged obstruction of justice.** McGahn has told investigators that the president attempted to control the investigation by giving a mixture of potentially damaging and favorable information concerning Trump, the newspaper reported. But the White House counsel told Mueller's team he never saw Trump overstep his legal authorities. More at link: thehill.com/homenews/administration/402478-white-house-counsel-has-spent-30-hours-sharing-detailed-accounts-withWe need to remember that McGahn is the White House Counsel. His job is to protect the Presidency not the president. Would have been a good time to be the fly on the wall......
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 18, 2018 19:48:44 GMT
She is smart and savvy and full of balls She is lacking and full of shit. Ask April Ryan from CNN Do you even know why April said what she did? And it’s not true that Omarosa is full of shit. Many of her statements have been 100% proven true. One can hate her because she’s a manipulative calculating bitch but it does not make her full of shit when she can back up what she’s saying.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Aug 18, 2018 20:04:11 GMT
Some people crave fame and name recognition though, and being on a reality show gives them that almost instantly. Within a few episodes of the first Apprentice show, EVERYBODY knew who she was. America may not have *liked* her, but they definitely knew who she was. I get that. I just don't personally associate that kind of craving with high intelligence. She and Trump are cut from the same mold, and I don't think either of them is very bright. I don’t think it really has anything to do with a person’s level of intelligence. It’s an entirely different personality trait. I’ve seen people on reality shows who are obviously very cunning and intelligent and others who appear to be dumb as a stump but they’re all on those shows to gain national exposure, and national exposure can ultimately equal money if the right person sees them and thinks they would be a good fit for their show/product/whatever. The common denominator is that those shows get people in front of a large national audience where they will be noticed, plain and simple.
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 18, 2018 20:06:22 GMT
The problem is Omarosa's credibility is at zero. She repeatedly went out of her way to fight for him and gave glowing reports... until she was fired for unlawful actions and integrity breaches. A disgruntled employee writes a book. That has been the kiss of death when it was happening against Clintons, but now you're embracing a disgruntled employee's words as gospel? Several people that she has given as proof for her claims have already come out and said it never happened. She has contradicted herself. Even April Ryan has come out and said she has no credibility. she doesn't have credibility until she produces proof and since she has released some of the tapes, her credibility on those quotes has gone up
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Not wanting to put you in a spot at all, but I’m just curious why Omarosa says she'd never seen that side of him until Charlottetown. In the book, does she say why it took her THAT long to recognize the racism? Did she mention anything about his repulsive Birther Crusade that went on for five years? Reason I ask is because it doesn’t take an incredible level of intelligence to identify the reason behind it. She said that she had never seen that side of him toward herself, a black woman. She mentioned that although he would say impulsive things, she didn't classify it as racist. Who knows, but that is what she wrote and I can only respond on that. “Back in the early campaign days, I went on TV and defended Donald’s rhetoric, saying, “He’s not racist; he’s racial.” I pointed out our history together the last fourteen “years, and how well he’d treated me, what he’d done for me professionally, how he’d invested in my TV show and my career. Given our relationship, I couldn’t believe he was a racist—but the people at this protest obviously were!” Excerpt From Unhinged: An Insider's Account of the Trump White House Omarosa Manigault Newman This material may be protected by copyright. The birther stuff.. “As I thought at the time, he is racial, though, in that he uses race and racial relations to manipulate people. I believed the birther movement stuff was opposition research, as he claimed, but it also had the purpose of riling up the Republican base of white voters. Trump’s racialization of illegal immigrants and his rhetoric about “building a wall” served the same goal. I believed then that Donald Trump was intentionally pitting races against each other for political gain, just as he’d pitted races against each other on The Apprentice for ratings. In hindsight, I see the flaws in my thinking. And it probably should have bothered me more than it did. But, as I’ve mentioned, I had a blind spot where Trump was concerned. Because of my proximity to him, I couldn’t see him from a certain angle that everyone else did. When I met him, he was the famous billionaire, and I was a hopeful, aspiring businesswoman trying to impress him. The Apprentice experience changed my life from anonymous to famous, from weary to wealthy. As a girl who’d lived in extreme poverty, I equated wealth with security. As I’d come to learn, money does “protect you from pain. I associated the Trump way of life with security and freedom. When people accused him of intolerance, I simply couldn’t see it.” Excerpt From Unhinged: An Insider's Account of the Trump White House Omarosa Manigault Newman This material may be protected by copyright. Excerpt From Unhinged: An Insider's Account of the Trump White House Omarosa Manigault Newman This material may be protected by copyright. Thanks for posting all this. It’s interesting that she excused the behavior as “racial.” By that one would assume his racial slurs prior to Omarosa’s epiphany were regarded by her as simply an ethnological political strategy. I’m not arguing with you, imsirius, as I know you’re merely reporting what’s in her book. Personally, I find her justifications difficult to swallow. My tendency is to think she knew who Donald Trump really was a long time ago, but decided for her own fame and enrichment goals that she’d rather look the other way.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 20:37:02 GMT
Omarosa was tricky enough to have taped conversations. She IS correct in saying that it was the only way to save her own back. With conmen, that is the only safe way to prove your case! She has already shown a few tapes & they're noteworthy. Why in the world would the Trump Campaign want to hire Omarosa after leaving scathing remarks upon her firing from the White House??? And to pay her $180k (as Lara Trump laid out) to do basically nothing, is INSANE. I'd be mad as hell if I contributed to a campaign and learned that campaign workers were making over $100k/year!!!!!!
As far as Trump being a racist, I really wish that every piece of footage would be made available. Damn that Mark Burnett. I boycott his shows now because he's got the goods on Trump and he's held back for over 2 years. Hundreds of people that were on the Apprentice & Celebrity Apprentice said that Trump was clearly sexist and racist. Penn Jillette (sp?) just told his story about his time on the show.
Wish we could end this entire administration and get back to normalcy. #MakePresidentsGreatAgain
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 20:41:49 GMT
I got thru 20 seconds before I had to shut it off. Can't he hire someone who helps him tie down his hands/arms??? He's just a posterboy for "Moron". None of his facts pan out. He's just trying to shill the rest of the desperate people who might believe in his scams. Ughhhh!! (He really overdid it with the tan spray this time, eh?? A cheeto with flaming orange hair and white circles around his eyes. How can he think he looks good??)
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Post by peasquared on Aug 18, 2018 21:03:36 GMT
I hope he keeps up with his videos. You just know he is going to say something he shouldn't and we'll have proof!
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Post by lizacreates on Aug 18, 2018 21:08:27 GMT
Omarosa was tricky enough to have taped conversations. She IS correct in saying that it was the only way to save her own back. With conmen, that is the only safe way to prove your case! She has already shown a few tapes & they're noteworthy. Why in the world would the Trump Campaign want to hire Omarosa after leaving scathing remarks upon her firing from the White House??? And to pay her $180k (as Lara Trump laid out) to do basically nothing, is INSANE. I'd be mad as hell if I contributed to a campaign and learned that campaign workers were making over $100k/year!!!!!! As far as Trump being a racist, I really wish that every piece of footage would be made available. Damn that Mark Burnett. I boycott his shows now because he's got the goods on Trump and he's held back for over 2 years. Hundreds of people that were on the Apprentice & Celebrity Apprentice said that Trump was clearly sexist and racist. Penn Jillette (sp?) just told his story about his time on the show. Wish we could end this entire administration and get back to normalcy. #MakePresidentsGreatAgain Keep your friends close and your enemies closer? Here's $180K, keep your mouth closed?
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Post by Merge on Aug 18, 2018 22:40:32 GMT
Oh my god, they are so. stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 23:38:25 GMT
Re: Omarosa... She is VERY intelligent. She graduated from Harvard and also is an ordained minister. In the book, she struggles with her desire to help her “friend” Donald succeed. She sees him as the vibrant, exciting man she met and befriended after the first Apprentice season. He trusted her, sought out her advice, and treated her very well. She had hoped he would be an amazing President and DO GOOD for the country. Then, little by little, she saw the Trump of today. Realized he was ill and declining quickly. She stayed to help him because nobody, not even his family, would admit he was showing mental decline. She thought if she were there, she could at least persuade him to do the right thing. But he always let her down. She said she did not want to believe that he was racist or a woman hater or a total asshole, because she, herself, had never seen that side of him. It wasn't until Charlottetown that she truly saw him for who he was. She wanted out then but Bannon and Ivanka convinced her to stay. They used her fondness for Trump to make her feel guilty. She is smart and savvy and full of balls. She may just take them ALL down. Not wanting to put you in a spot at all, but I’m just curious why Omarosa says she'd never seen that side of him until Charlottetown. In the book, does she say why it took her THAT long to recognize the racism? Did she mention anything about his repulsive Birther Crusade that went on for five years? Reason I ask is because it doesn’t take an incredible level of intelligence to identify the reason behind it. Great point! She does seem to be reasonably intelligent, but I'm not buying the fact that she was in the dark about who Trump really was, if she's been in "Trumpland" for 15 years. Hmm....... She'd have to have heard him or seen him being sexist and racist during those years at the very least. Hard to believe that she didn't witness him belittling people, conning people......... ALL of a sudden Charlottetown is her trigger? What about Trump's views about the Central Park 5? She must have heard about that.... His views about Obama are enough to upset anyone. She must be pretty dense.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 23:48:54 GMT
trump yesterday...
“The local politicians who run Washington, D.C. (poorly) know a windfall when they see it. When asked to give us a price for holding a great celebratory military parade, they wanted a number so ridiculously high that I cancelled it. Never let someone hold you up! I will instead...”
A response from Andrew Weinstein....
“If you really want to see a big celebration in the streets all you have to do is resign.”
He has a point.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 0:30:15 GMT
AP....
“AP NEWSBREAK: The Trump administration is ending funding for Syria stabilization projects as it moves to extricate itself from the conflict. US officials say they will not spend some $200 million that had been planned for Syria programs”
Remember how trump was going to win the conflicts this country are in? That he knew how to win unlike President Obama. This is not winning, this is cutting & running. It would appear the reality of the Middle East has set in.
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Post by lizacreates on Aug 19, 2018 0:32:08 GMT
Great point! She does seem to be reasonably intelligent, but I'm not buying the fact that she was in the dark about who Trump really was, if she's been in "Trumpland" for 15 years. Hmm....... She'd have to have heard him or seen him being sexist and racist during those years at the very least. Hard to believe that she didn't witness him belittling people, conning people......... ALL of a sudden Charlottetown is her trigger? What about Trump's views about the Central Park 5? She must have heard about that.... His views about Obama are enough to upset anyone. She must be pretty dense. Oh, I'm fairly sure she knew. But ambition and all...you know. (Btw, I've been gone many months. I hope you and hubby are faring better.)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 0:48:34 GMT
Just when you think they can’t stoop any lower...
Daniel Dale.
“ICE arrested a California man on Wednesday when he stopped for gas while driving his wife to the hospital for her C-section. She ended up driving herself the rest of the way, giving birth alone.”
From the LA Times..
“Her husband Joel Arrona-Lara was driving his wife to the hospital for a scheduled Cesarean section Wednesday afternoon when they had to stop to get gas. That’s when their car was approached by two SUVs. Maria said they were officers with Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
The mother of five was then asked to show her identification and complied. When the agents asked Arrona-Lara, the couple said he didn’t have the ID on him, but that they lived nearby and could go get it for them. The agents then asked Arrona-Lara to exit the vehicle, searched the car for weapons, and put Arrona into custody, leaving Maria alone at the gas station.”
Maria told CBS2 Arrona-Lara, who is from Mexico, has never been stopped by police, and that he’s never been in trouble with the law, not even for a ticket. However, ICE said Saturday Arrona-Lara was picked up because he is wanted by law enforcement authorities in Mexico on an outstanding homicide warrant.
An attorney representing Arrona-Lara on behalf of the nonprofit San Bernardino Community Service Center said those charges are unconfirmed. Emilio Amaya Garcia told CBS2 he has been in contact with the Mexican consulate who said it currently has no information about ICE’s claim.
Garcia added Arrona-Lara’s detention paperwork shows he is in custody for being in the country without documentation.
In the following statement from Friday, ICE makes no mention of homicide charges, only that Arrona-Lara was taken into custody the agency’s “Fugitive Operations Team”:
Mr. Arrona-Lara, a citizen of Mexico illegally residing in the United States, was taken into custody Wednesday by ICE Fugitive Operations Team officers in San Bernardino, Calif. Mr. Arrona-Lara is currently in ICE custody pending removal proceedings with the Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR).
“ICE continues to focus its enforcement resources on individuals who pose a threat to national security, public safety and border security. ICE conducts targeted immigration enforcement in compliance with federal law and agency policy. However, ICE will no longer exempt classes or categories of removable aliens from potential enforcement. All of those in violation of the immigration laws may be subject to immigration arrest, detention and, if found removable by final order, removal from the United States.”
So in other words anyone here illegally poses a threat to national security. People who have lived peacefully in this country for years, raising families are now automatically a threat to our national security. That’s sick.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 1:05:34 GMT
Great point! She does seem to be reasonably intelligent, but I'm not buying the fact that she was in the dark about who Trump really was, if she's been in "Trumpland" for 15 years. Hmm....... She'd have to have heard him or seen him being sexist and racist during those years at the very least. Hard to believe that she didn't witness him belittling people, conning people......... ALL of a sudden Charlottetown is her trigger? What about Trump's views about the Central Park 5? She must have heard about that.... His views about Obama are enough to upset anyone. She must be pretty dense. Oh, I'm fairly sure she knew. But ambition and all...you know. (Btw, I've been gone many months. I hope you and hubby are faring better.) I'll msg you vs. hijack this political thread........ Glad to see you back!!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 19, 2018 3:10:24 GMT
AP.... “AP NEWSBREAK: The Trump administration is ending funding for Syria stabilization projects as it moves to extricate itself from the conflict. US officials say they will not spend some $200 million that had been planned for Syria programs” Remember how trump was going to win the conflicts this country are in? That he knew how to win unlike President Obama. This is not winning, this is cutting & running. It would appear the reality of the Middle East has set in. Gotta pay for his wall and maybe his parade too............... Than add this in too. White House weighs clawing back State, foreign aid fundingBY JORDAIN CARNEY - 08/17/18 03:45 PM EDTThe White House is weighing whether it wants to attempt to claw back billions in funding from the State Department and U.S. Agency for International Development. The Office of Management and Budget, according to multiple reports, is eyeing cuts that could total more than $3 billion from previously allocated funding. The administration is planning to target funding it views as "unnecessary." “If Congress fails to take action to release the funds, they will remain on hold until the end of the fiscal year ... then be returned to the Treasury,” according to an OMB memo, which was read to The Washington Post. ** The Senate previously rejected a $15 billion rescissions package in June. GOP Sens. Susan Collins (Maine) and Richard Burr (N.C.) joined with Democrats in opposing the legislation, depriving it of the simple majority needed for passage. But senators and staffers are raising red flags that they could be powerless to block a second package because the 45-day period normally given to Congress to approve a rescissions package would go past Sept. 30, the end of the fiscal year. If Congress doesn't take action, OMB is arguing the administration could automatically take back the funding after the end of the fiscal year. More at link: thehill.com/homenews/senate/402391-white-house-weighs-clawing-back-state-foreign-aid-fundingIn other words IF Congress says NO, dt and his most honest cabinet buddies will find another way to do it........ much as they have been doing other things, some we don't even know about.......
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 4:38:04 GMT
As is trump’s credibility at zero. As I said they are one in the same. Yes. Howard Finemen.... .”@realdonaldtrump is lucky. If the United States were the kind of country he’s trying to turn us into, there already would have been a military coup. The Constitution and rule of law — for which he has nothing but contempt — are protecting HIM!” That has crossed my mind frequently of late! And he has no clue of the realities!! As I have also commented about his base being so happy with him and that they would quickly lose their guns, freedoms, and God under his friend Putin. now you're embracing a disgruntled employee's words as gospe Not I. I QUOTED a first person, reporter's çomments about her comparison observations in Puerto Rico to what was written in Omarosa's book. So, not you, got it. But you aren't the only one here embracing a disgruntled employee's words as gospel when in the past writing a book or a disgruntled employee was useless as a source when speaking out about the Clintons.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 5:05:35 GMT
Just think if President Obama had pulled that stunt every time someone said bad things about him. The GOP would litterly have steam coming out of their collective noggins. Really? Talk to Gregory Hicks, Greta Van Susteren, Jennifer Griffin, Gibson Guitar, Dinesh D’Souza, Ben Carson, Chris Crane and Catherine Engelbrecht.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 5:10:38 GMT
The problem is Omarosa's credibility is at zero. She repeatedly went out of her way to fight for him and gave glowing reports... until she was fired for unlawful actions and integrity breaches. A disgruntled employee writes a book. That has been the kiss of death when it was happening against Clintons, but now you're embracing a disgruntled employee's words as gospel? Several people that she has given as proof for her claims have already come out and said it never happened. She has contradicted herself. Even April Ryan has come out and said she has no credibility. she doesn't have credibility until she produces proof and since she has released some of the tapes, her credibility on those quotes has gone up She's already been discredited by people she put forth as proof saying they could could verify. They say what she claims, didn't happen.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 19, 2018 8:34:50 GMT
she doesn't have credibility until she produces proof and since she has released some of the tapes, her credibility on those quotes has gone up She's already been discredited by people she put forth as proof saying they could could verify. They say what she claims, didn't happen. Yet, here you are excluding those instances she’s been 100% accurate. And where is anyone here taking what she says as “gospel truth” according to you? A discussion is being had here, people are commenting on different excerpts but no one is claiming that her words are all gospel truth like you are insisting—you are trying, once again, to pigeonhole your thoughts and beliefs onto the liberals, by making statements that are lies and seemingly disparaging to liberal peas. (Which shouldn’t surprise anyone since you are Gia 2.0) I haven’t read from anyone here that they believe her 100%.
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Post by Merge on Aug 19, 2018 12:20:05 GMT
Just think if President Obama had pulled that stunt every time someone said bad things about him. The GOP would litterly have steam coming out of their collective noggins. Really? Talk to Gregory Hicks, Greta Van Susteren, Jennifer Griffin, Gibson Guitar, Dinesh D’Souza, Ben Carson, Chris Crane and Catherine Engelbrecht. Obama revoked these people's security clearances?
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Post by Merge on Aug 19, 2018 12:27:01 GMT
Bomb in Yemen School Bus Strike Was US-SuppliedIn other words, in the Trump administration's reckless drive to overturn every single thing the Obama administration ever did, they're now partially responsible for the deaths of dozens of children. Everything the Obama administration did? Obama drew a red line and did nothing when it was crossed. Then it took him 3 days to respond to a British call for response and then further delay after that. How many deaths is Obama responsible for? Do try to keep up. I bolded the part about the Obama administration banning the sale of long-range guided missiles to these folks just to help the slow readers among us. Trump then reversed that ban, presumably under pressure from his donors at Lockheed Martin. Maybe purple comic sans will help you focus better?
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Post by hop2 on Aug 19, 2018 12:44:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 12:57:48 GMT
I read this and wondered what trump had tweeted now..
Bill Kristol..
But at his back Trump now can hear Mueller's wingèd chariot hurrying near; And yonder all before him lie Impeachment of vast eternity.
It was this,,,
trump...
“Study the late Joseph McCarthy, because we are now in period with Mueller and his gang that make Joseph McCarthy look like a baby! Rigged Witch Hunt!”
I’m thinking Kristol may be right. 😀
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 13:03:55 GMT
This from the toddler...
and have demanded transparency so that this Rigged and Disgusting Witch Hunt can come to a close. So many lives have been ruined over nothing - McCarthyism at its WORST! Yet Mueller & his gang of Dems refuse to look at the real crimes on the other side - Media is even worse!
Prompted this from Bill Kristol..
“Trump: "So many lives have been ruined over nothing..." Trump is signaling one and all--Manafort in particular, but others as well--that if they just hang tough for a while, pardons are coming.”
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