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Post by gulfcoastgirl on Aug 1, 2018 16:22:05 GMT
Are you in QAnon, Rainbow?
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Post by bc2ca on Aug 1, 2018 16:24:01 GMT
“...several TED Talks supporting this, many celebrities publicly defending it” After reading this, I was waiting for the de rigueur mention of college professors...maybe safe spaces being readied for “pedophile-positive” college students. I'm waiting for the links to the many celebrities publicly defending it.
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Post by jayfab on Aug 1, 2018 16:45:01 GMT
Are you in QAnon, Rainbow? I'd bet money on it.
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Post by gar on Aug 1, 2018 16:53:32 GMT
many celebrities publicly defending Indeed.
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Post by elaine on Aug 1, 2018 16:54:52 GMT
There is actually a TED talk out of Germany where the presenter did give the argument that pedophilia is a sexual orientation. TED Talk
When I first starting seeing people share this on Facebook, I thought it was a joke, a very fucked up joke. Sadly, nope. It was an actual TED Talk. ETA: I was trying to link the actual TED Talk...looks like they've taken it down from YouTube. There is quite a bit of talk amongst mental health professionals about Pedophilia being a sexual orientation that one is born with. That is not to say that they are advocating letting pedophiles abuse children, but highlighting the fact that they will not be rehabilitated any more than one can “pray the gay away.” If one looks at pedophilia as incurable - which statistics bear out - it changes how one looks at prison sentences, registries, etc. I just brought up that point on a recent thread regarding an article where the writer was talking about the damage sex offender registries causes for people who have “paid their time.” Viewing pedophilia as an orientation by people in mental health has not be to normalize it, any more than saying that schizophrenia, which has a large genetic component, is normal. Or any number of other mental illnesses that are inborn/genetic in nature. Only when society is able to come to grips with the fact that we have not, to date, found a “cure” for pedophilia (and may never), will we be able to take the necessary steps to keep our children safe.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Aug 1, 2018 16:56:58 GMT
There is actually a TED talk out of Germany where the presenter did give the argument that pedophilia is a sexual orientation. TED Talk
When I first starting seeing people share this on Facebook, I thought it was a joke, a very fucked up joke. Sadly, nope. It was an actual TED Talk. ETA: I was trying to link the actual TED Talk...looks like they've taken it down from YouTube. And that TED talk would make an interesting thread. (eta: what elaine said) But turn it into several TED talks and then throw in many celebrities and endless gender and orientation identifities, and it just turns into mongering. That’s propaganda. (Not directed at you, PolarGreen12, but the writers and spreaders.)
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Post by Dalai Mama on Aug 1, 2018 17:50:05 GMT
THIS IS NOT JUST SOMETHING FAKE TO FEAR-MONGER. It is something fake to fear-monger (she hears in Ron Howard's voice).
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Post by Zee on Aug 1, 2018 17:52:54 GMT
Eyeroll. This is exactly the kind of post I would expect from this OP. Yep, typical.
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Post by Rhondito on Aug 1, 2018 18:06:29 GMT
Just because someone decides to give something a name doesn't mean it's a movement or something new. These types of people have always been around. If celebrities and others are trying to normalize it, where are the sources citing their support? It's bullshit.
Besides, any hope of credibility flies out the window when posted in purple Comic Sans.
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Post by dewryce on Aug 1, 2018 18:15:45 GMT
If you believe that to be the case, why are you helping to amplify their message?
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Aug 1, 2018 18:29:34 GMT
There is actually a TED talk out of Germany where the presenter did give the argument that pedophilia is a sexual orientation. TED Talk
When I first starting seeing people share this on Facebook, I thought it was a joke, a very fucked up joke. Sadly, nope. It was an actual TED Talk. ETA: I was trying to link the actual TED Talk...looks like they've taken it down from YouTube. There is quite a bit of talk amongst mental health professionals about Pedophilia being a sexual orientation that one is born with. That is not to say that they are advocating letting pedophiles abuse children, but highlighting the fact that they will not be rehabilitated any more than one can “pray the gay away.” If one looks at pedophilia as incurable - which statistics bear out - it changes how one looks at prison sentences, registries, etc. I just brought up that point on a recent thread regarding an article where the writer was talking about the damage sex offender registries causes for people who have “paid their time.” Viewing pedophilia as an orientation by people in mental health has not be to normalize it, any more than saying that schizophrenia, which has a large genetic component, is normal. Or any number of other mental illnesses that are inborn/genetic in nature. Only when society is able to come to grips with the fact that we have not, to date, found a “cure” for pedophilia (and may never), will we be able to take the necessary steps to keep our children safe. If that's the case, we need to have better ways to protect children beforehand. In other words, if they are born that way to find children attractive and cannot be cured, then they should be able to come forward BEFORE acting on it for help. But this thread demonstrates that just feeling that way is reprehensible, so I doubt many would admit they're wired wrong. But just like you can't pray away the gay, how would one seek help? Is there anything?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 18:46:56 GMT
Didn't the op recently claim to be smarter than the rest of us because she doesn't believe the news?
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Post by M~ on Aug 1, 2018 21:59:09 GMT
Your kid-friendly font isn't appropriate for the topic, BTW. Source? Facebook isn't a source.
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Post by myshelly on Aug 1, 2018 22:26:01 GMT
This is why Donald Trump is president.
Ignorant people read ridiculous scare articles on Facebook and can’t think critically enough to fact check.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 13:59:10 GMT
"A New Jersey pastor who founded the Creation Festival, the largest Christian music gathering in the U.S., was sentenced to 18 years in prison for sexually abusing several young girls, including at least one who was just seven years old.... As part of a plea agreement earlier this year, Thomas acknowledged sexually assaulting a 9-year-old in 2005, having sexual contact with three girls ages 7 to 9 in 2000 and 2010 and exposing himself to a girl between 2008 and 2010." www.startribune.com/ex-pastor-sentenced-to-18-years-in-child-sex-abuse-case/489423631/
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Post by inkedup on Aug 2, 2018 15:55:32 GMT
If LGBTQ people are sinners destined for hell, and straight "christian" assholes are destined for heaven....sign me up for hell.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 4:18:07 GMT
"Sweeney, 75, is the first priest convicted as a result of the 40th Statewide Investigating Grand Jury, which recently concluded an investigation into sexually abusive priests and clergy in six of the state’s eight Catholic dioceses, including the Diocese of Greensburg. … The report, which remains under seal, is expected to be the most comprehensive look at clergy sex abuse in the world. The report identifies by name more than 300 priests who face credible accusations of child sex crimes." www.pennlive.com/news/2018/07/greensburg_priest_charged_with.htmlAlso not what the OP had in mind, I'm guessing. Funny how there are examples of pedophilia ALL AROUND US and instances that have been GOING ON FOR DECADES. Yet the perpetrators are not in secret underground pizza lairs, nor in QAnons' sicko fantasies, but right in gymnast exam rooms and pulpits and wrestling and football locker rooms. Curious.
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Post by ComplicatedLady on Aug 6, 2018 5:55:27 GMT
A reverse google image search of the supposed flier from the post brought up a tweet from what appears to be some kind of bot Wait wait wait. Bots aren’t real. What kinda soup you tryin’ to dish out here? /sarcasm oh and I remember the South Park NAMBLA episode too elaine .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 5:45:42 GMT
I sure am glad there's this handy thread to keep track of all the REAL people involved in pedophilia. Local Pastor Arrested After Trying To Meet Teen For Sex 5newsonline.com/2018/08/07/local-pastor-arrested-for-trying-to-meet-teen-for-sex/"A local pastor convicted in 2000 for possessing child pornography has been arrested for trying to meet who he thought was a 14-year-old boy for sex. Timothy Lee Reddin, 67, was arrested Thursday (Aug. 3) in connection with attempted coercion and enticement of a minor, according to a complaint unsealed Monday (Aug. 6) in federal court. Reddin, who served as a part-time pastor at Turner Street Baptist Church in Springdale, messaged an undercover Homeland Security Investigations agent in July about meeting to have sex."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 5:31:28 GMT
Bible teacher at a Christian school in Florida arrested for allegedly manipulating a girl between 12 and 16 years old to perform oral sex on him inside the church. " “I found everything,” the father said. According to the arrest report, the girl said she performed consensual oral sex on Browning at the church while he touched her inappropriately. Investigators found text messages between Browning and the girl about the incident. The father said he is furious and feels betrayed by someone who was supposed to be a mentor to his child." www.news4jax.com/news/local/jacksonville/bible-teacher-at-church-school-accused-of-having-sex-with-teen
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Post by Rainbow on Aug 11, 2018 17:32:05 GMT
Religious people are like everyone else. Some do good, some do bad. Just like everyone else.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 4:00:57 GMT
‘They Hid It All’: Catholic Priests Abused 1,000 Children in Pennsylvania, Report Says "Bishops and other leaders of the Roman Catholic Church in Pennsylvania covered up child sexual abuse by more than 300 priests over a period of 70 years, persuading victims not to report the abuse and law enforcement not to investigate it, according to a searing report issued by a grand jury on Tuesday. The report, which covered six of the state’s eight Catholic dioceses and found more than 1,000 identifiable victims, is the broadest examination yet by a government agency in the United States of child sexual abuse in the Catholic Church. The report said there are likely thousands more victims whose records were lost or who were too afraid to come forward." www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/us/catholic-church-sex-abuse-pennsylvania.htmlYep - religious people ARE like everyone else. So they can stop pretending that all that time and billions upon billions of dollars spent for centuries on tithing, churching, proselytizing, buildings, jets, etc. doesn't magically make them any more moral or righteous than anyone else. Quite the contrary it would seem.
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Rainbow
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Post by Rainbow on Aug 15, 2018 6:00:07 GMT
‘They Hid It All’: Catholic Priests Abused 1,000 Children in Pennsylvania, Report Says "Bishops and other leaders of the Roman Catholic Church in Pennsylvania covered up child sexual abuse by more than 300 priests over a period of 70 years, persuading victims not to report the abuse and law enforcement not to investigate it, according to a searing report issued by a grand jury on Tuesday. The report, which covered six of the state’s eight Catholic dioceses and found more than 1,000 identifiable victims, is the broadest examination yet by a government agency in the United States of child sexual abuse in the Catholic Church. The report said there are likely thousands more victims whose records were lost or who were too afraid to come forward." www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/us/catholic-church-sex-abuse-pennsylvania.htmlYep - religious people ARE like everyone else. So they can stop pretending that all that time and billions upon billions of dollars spent for centuries on tithing, churching, proselytizing, buildings, jets, etc. doesn't magically make them any more moral or righteous than anyone else. Quite the contrary it would seem. I don't recall anyone saying they were better than anyone else. What they say is that everyone is a sinner.
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Post by gar on Aug 15, 2018 6:34:19 GMT
‘They Hid It All’: Catholic Priests Abused 1,000 Children in Pennsylvania, Report Says "Bishops and other leaders of the Roman Catholic Church in Pennsylvania covered up child sexual abuse by more than 300 priests over a period of 70 years, persuading victims not to report the abuse and law enforcement not to investigate it, according to a searing report issued by a grand jury on Tuesday. The report, which covered six of the state’s eight Catholic dioceses and found more than 1,000 identifiable victims, is the broadest examination yet by a government agency in the United States of child sexual abuse in the Catholic Church. The report said there are likely thousands more victims whose records were lost or who were too afraid to come forward." www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/us/catholic-church-sex-abuse-pennsylvania.htmlYep - religious people ARE like everyone else. So they can stop pretending that all that time and billions upon billions of dollars spent for centuries on tithing, churching, proselytizing, buildings, jets, etc. doesn't magically make them any more moral or righteous than anyone else. Quite the contrary it would seem. I don't recall anyone saying they were better than anyone else. What they say is that everyone is a sinner.Are you really excusing them???
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 12:58:58 GMT
‘They Hid It All’: Catholic Priests Abused 1,000 Children in Pennsylvania, Report Says "Bishops and other leaders of the Roman Catholic Church in Pennsylvania covered up child sexual abuse by more than 300 priests over a period of 70 years, persuading victims not to report the abuse and law enforcement not to investigate it, according to a searing report issued by a grand jury on Tuesday. The report, which covered six of the state’s eight Catholic dioceses and found more than 1,000 identifiable victims, is the broadest examination yet by a government agency in the United States of child sexual abuse in the Catholic Church. The report said there are likely thousands more victims whose records were lost or who were too afraid to come forward." www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/us/catholic-church-sex-abuse-pennsylvania.htmlYep - religious people ARE like everyone else. So they can stop pretending that all that time and billions upon billions of dollars spent for centuries on tithing, churching, proselytizing, buildings, jets, etc. doesn't magically make them any more moral or righteous than anyone else. Quite the contrary it would seem. I don't recall anyone saying they were better than anyone else. What they say is that everyone is a sinner.Exactly. So perhaps it's time to stop spending all that time and billions upon billions of dollars spent for centuries on tithing, churching, proselytizing, buildings, jets, etc. doesn't magically make them any more moral or righteous than anyone else. IT MAKES THEM JUST THE SAME.
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Post by elaine on Aug 15, 2018 13:13:31 GMT
I’d actually say that pedophilic religious leaders, and the churches that protect them, are WORSE than other “sinners.”
IMO, hiding behind a facade of moral superiority, leadership, and offering moral guidance to others, all the while preying on children is exponentially worse. Especially when those religious institutions try to to influence legal systems in order to force religious-based legislation on others, all the while harboring and protecting pedophiles.
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Post by Rainbow on Aug 15, 2018 22:24:37 GMT
I don't recall anyone saying they were better than anyone else. What they say is that everyone is a sinner. Are you really excusing them??? I think you are reading far too much into what I wrote. I meant what I wrote.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 2:10:31 GMT
Brace yourselves: www.dropbox.com/s/htuj6nnmcvwn939/interimredactedreportandresponses.pdf?dl=0I can't bring myself to write the details here. Too disgusting. You can read for yourselves just how many "holy men" were trying to "normalize" pedophilia - in the words of the OP. Father Chester Gawronski. Father William Presley. Father Thomas D. Skotek. Father Edmond Parrakow. Father Augustine Giella. Father Robert N. Caparelli. Monsignor Thomas J. Benestad ... And on and on and on and on.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 3:38:02 GMT
myfox8.com/2018/08/30/pastor-principal-charged-with-sex-offenses-against-a-minor-in-rockingham-county/"A pastor and academy principal in Rockingham County was arrested Wednesday on charges of sex offenses against a minor. Kevin Scott Heffner, 48, of Pelham, was arrested on 12 counts of disseminating obscene materials to a minor and two counts of statutory sex offense. Arrest warrants show that the obscene materials were “photographs of his genitalia.” The statutory sex offense allegedly took place between June 15 and Aug. 29. The victim was 15 or younger at the time of the offense, warrants show."
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Post by scrapmaven on Sept 4, 2018 4:00:28 GMT
Oh FFS. Pedophilia (a sick and twisted thing)and LGBTQ (imho, a normal and healthy thing) issues are completely different, whether or not you want the opposite to be true. There is not one thing about being LGBTQ that is even remotely associated w/pedophilia. I did a whole paper on this stuff in college. Studies showed that more het people were likely to be pedophiles than gay people. Unfortunately, I don't have the sources or the paper anymore. If it's any help, I got an A on the paper. Let this stupid theory go. Good grief, people. It's 2018. Stop hating.
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