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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 1:47:50 GMT
trump and his stooges in Congress have a new target in the justice department.
In order to save trump the Republicans in Congress are systematically destroying the careers of experienced experts in their chosen feilds at the Justice Department and the FBI.
Today’s target is Bruce Ohr. And who is leading the charge? That asshole Jim Jordan who knew boys were being molested and did nothing. Why is he even still in Congress? Oh yea, he is a Republican and they let that stuff slide.
From Politico..
“Republicans find a new target in fight to discredit Russia probe”
By KYLE CHENEY 08/28/2018 05:11 AM EDT
First the spotlight was on Jim Comey and Andrew McCabe, then Peter Strzok and Lisa Page.
Now, Republicans — intent on proving that political bias is behind the sprawling investigation of President Donald Trump’s ties to Russia — are elevating a new bureaucratic target: Justice Department official Bruce Ohr.
Reps. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) and Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), both top Trump allies, are taking breaks from their August recess to lead a closed-door interview Tuesday with the former associate deputy attorney general, who was demoted earlier this year amid growing scrutiny from conservatives. In recent weeks, Trump has tweeted about Ohr nine times, and House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes recently predicted Ohr would become a key figure in House investigators' sights.
House Republicans have fixated on a handful of career Justice Department and FBI officials over the past year as they've sought to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the investigators who launched the Russia probe, which is now overseen by special counsel Robert Mueller.
But after the firings of McCabe, the FBI deputy director who helped oversee a 2016 investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server while she was secretary of state, and Strzok, an FBI agent who was an early member of the team probing Russia’s interference in the election, Ohr has become the latest focus of Republicans' and their conservative-media allies’ suspicions that the U.S. intelligence bureaucracy — the "deep state," as Trump and his supporters call them — is intent on taking down the president.
Democrats say Republicans are doing no more than elevating conspiracy theories to deflect from the legal scandals engulfing Trump's presidency.
But Ohr is a tantalizing target for Republicans because he's at the center of various strands of their frustration with the Russia probe. For one thing, he was in touch in 2016 with Christopher Steele, the British ex-spy behind a now-famous dossier alleging connections between Trump and Moscow. Republicans have obtained communications between the two that they say show Ohr was in contact with Steele even after the latter ceased to have a formal relationship with the FBI.
Meanwhile, Ohr's wife, Nellie, worked for Fusion GPS, the company that hired Steele to dig into Trump’s background on behalf of the Clinton campaign in 2016. In late 2016, Ohr passed along a version of Steele’s dossier to the FBI, Strzok told lawmakers last month.
“When he comes to Congress tomorrow, Bruce Ohr has explaining to do,” Meadows tweeted on Monday.
That interest in Ohr has reached Trump. The president paints the DOJ official and "his beautiful wife,” as Trump has called her, as central actors in a "witch hunt" against him. Trump has mentioned him in nine tweets this month and suggested he might pull Ohr's security clearance, a move that could cost the DOJ official his job. Trump has suggested Ohr should be fired, tweeting on Aug. 20 that it's a "total joke" that he is still employed by the Justice Department.
It’s unclear whether Democratic lawmakers plan to attend Tuesday’s hearing, but in general, they intend to paint the Republican focus on Ohr — a career DOJ official who helped oversee organized crime enforcement and was previously a prosecutor — as a belated attempt to salvage conspiracy theories that they say have withered under scrutiny.
Ohr had no formal role in the Russia investigation, and his relationship as a go-between for Steele was formalized, with his meetings and discussions with Steele logged in FBI files.
One attorney familiar with Ohr's relationship with the FBI, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said there was nothing unseemly about the FBI receiving information from Steele, even after he ended his formal source relationship. The bureau takes information about potential crime from figures as unsavory as gang members and mobsters, the lawyer said. By contrast, Steele, a longtime partner of the U.S. intelligence community, was a credible source, even if he had a falling-out with the bureau.
Nonetheless, Republicans see Steele’s information as biased by his own anti-Trump sentiments, and they believe Ohr is tarred by the connection.
A memo crafted by the House Intelligence Committee GOP staff under Nunes (R-Calif.) misleadingly claims Steele’s motives in investigating Trump were omitted when the FBI used the dossier as part of its justification to obtain a court-ordered surveillance warrant — known as a FISA warrant — against Trump 2016 adviser Carter Page.
"This clear evidence of Steele’s bias was recorded by Ohr at the time and subsequently in official FBI files — but not reflected in any of the Page FISA applications," the memo reads.
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Post by lizacreates on Aug 29, 2018 2:24:29 GMT
What the fuck? He gets more brazen daily. When did the US become a totalitarian nation? My first thoughts were that his sheeple would go ballistic.... They are the ones who are causing more violence around and about. ( not the ordinary citizens but the fanatics...) The gift of our system is that even when a president is killed we move forward. We have elections and move on all over the country... My first thought, too, but no. Listen to the speech. What he's saying is that the DEMOCRATS will be violent - "that they will overturn everything that we've done and they will do it violently..." The tweet was misleading.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 2:38:32 GMT
Jarad Leopold....
“Huge Dem turnout breaks records in FL.
Historical totals in #FLGOV D primaries: 2018: 1,402,804+ 2014: 837,796 2010: 871,335 2006: 857,814 2002: 1,357,017 1998: (uncontested) 1994: 836,414 1990: 1,074,056 1986: 1,005,465 1982: 993,402 1978: 1,037,533”
Nice, but they really to turn out for the general election.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 3:21:27 GMT
linkAnd then there is this from The NY Times... “ C.I.A. Officer-Turned-Candidate Says PAC Obtained Her Security Application”From the article... “WASHINGTON — A former C.I.A. officer running for Congress accused a super PAC aligned with Speaker Paul D. Ryan on Tuesday of improperly obtaining her entire federal security clearance application — a highly sensitive document containing extensive personal information — and then using it for political purposes. Abigail Spanberger, the Democratic candidate challenging Representative Dave Brat of Virginia, sent a cease-and-desist letter to Corry Bliss, the executive director of the Congressional Leadership Fund, which has raised more than $100 million to help Republicans in the midterm elections. She demanded that the super PAC destroy all copies of the form and agree to not use the information in any fashion. & The super PAC released a statement on Tuesday strongly denying Ms. Spanberger’s charge, saying that the document was obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request filed with the United States Postal Service by America Rising, a separate Republican-aligned research firm. “C.L.F. follows the letter of the law in examining any candidate’s background and Ms. Spanberger was no different,” Courtney Alexander, a spokeswoman for the group, said in the statement. The group also released a portion of the security clearance application, blacking out some personal information.” Since when did it become ok to get and distribute information off someone’s security application for a job in the government, especially the CIA? And these individuals decide what to release and what to hold back. When did this become acceptable?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 29, 2018 3:23:19 GMT
My first thought, too, but no. Listen to the speech. What he's saying is that the DEMOCRATS will be violent - "that they will overturn everything that we've done and they will do it violently..." The tweet was misleading. That is what he said, that it would be the Dems, but I am saying it would more likely be the Reps.... they have already proven to be more physically aggressive and will react to the 'fake news' that they 'lost.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 29, 2018 3:28:10 GMT
The super PAC released a statement on Tuesday strongly denying Ms. Spanberger’s charge, saying that the document was obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request filed with the United States Postal Service by America Rising, a separate Republican-aligned research firm. But why would her info/application be at the USPS and why would he have access to it anyway?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 3:35:01 GMT
And finally..
This from trump...
“Report just out: “China hacked Hillary Clinton’s private Email Server.” Are they sure it wasn’t Russia (just kidding!)? What are the odds that the FBI and DOJ are right on top of this? Actually, a very big story. Much classified information!”
Prompted this response from a John Aravois.
“So I looked into this, assuming Trump was pulling it out of his ass. And what do you know, he was. It’s a “story” exclusive to the Daily Caller (a far-right activist rag), that no other news organizations, even conservative ones, have been able to verify. It’s a fake story.
I’m told Laura Ingraham reported on this “story” on Fox News tonight. This is what we’re up against. The Daily Caller writes a bogus story. No one else in the media can corroborate it. Trump tweets it anyway. Fox News repeats it. And it becomes a real thing.
This is the way the Soviets used to create fake anti-American propaganda. They’d seed a fake story in Africa, then repeat it on Radio Moscow. We have nothing like this on the left. We don’t have an entire TV network like Fox News devoted to lying on behalf of one political party.”
You just get so tired of all the lying.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 3:37:39 GMT
The super PAC released a statement on Tuesday strongly denying Ms. Spanberger’s charge, saying that the document was obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request filed with the United States Postal Service by America Rising, a separate Republican-aligned research firm. But why would her info/application be at the USPS and why would he have access to it anyway? Who knows. I’m still working on the claim they got the security application through the Freedom of Information Act. That makes no sense.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 3:54:50 GMT
This from Mike Pence...
“Great being at the @senategop policy lunch today. Judge Brett Kavanaugh deserves the support of every member of the United States Senate. As I said last week, Democrats in the Senate have gone from "advice and consent" to "resist and obstruct"...”
Prompted this real truth from Joe Scarborough..
“Mike, this is shameless. Republicans refused to even speak to Merrick Garland. Why does any Republican nominee “deserve the support of every member of the US Senate” when GOP tribalism torched the process?”
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 4:08:57 GMT
That’s because Iceland learned its lessons. The US has not. Those old enough to know how Reaganomics works also know that it was adopted by other countries in the ‘90s. Iceland was one of those countries. When they privatized their banking system a whole new class of super-wealthy elites - the 1% - was created and corruption became rampant. When the 2008 financial crisis hit, Iceland was the first to fall, wiping out people’s savings with a quarter of homeowners in mortgage default, and a country deeply in debt. And as the banking system collapsed, Haarde was forced to tell his people they were on the verge of bankruptcy, at which point Icelanders fired their government. BUT they learned their lessons and learned them well. To those interested in understanding the horrors Iceland went through should seek out the documentary Inside Job narrated by Matt Damon. It’s not hyperbole and fear-mongering to say that what we have in the US at present is Reaganomics 2.0 (I know @zingermack knows this). It's just stating a fact. If we do not learn the lessons given us in the past, we are only doomed to repeat them. yes!!! I did fall for Reaganomics when I was young and I looked at the world with rose colored glasses and thought everyone would do what was right. All I can say about that is.... fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. And I am not fooled this time around. We are headed down a very very BAD path. If something isn’t changed soon we will be financially devastated and it will be Trumps fault. We simply can not go thru 8 years of this crap and financially survive as a nation ( personally I’m fairly ok, not great but ok ) it will be the Great Depression all over again Me too! True story. Voted for Reagan AND Bush dad. ME!!! Then I grew up. Reminds me of this meme:
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 4:59:18 GMT
So trump likes to tout Fox News polls. I wonder if he will this one? Somehow I don’t think so.
USA Today..
“Fox News poll: Voters like Obamacare more than GOP tax cuts”
From the article
“WASHINGTON – Obamacare is more popular with American voters than the Republican-enacted tax cuts, according to a new Fox News Poll.
Slightly more than half of voters – 51 percent – had a favorable opinion of the 2010 Affordable Care Act, better known as Obamacare.
In contrast, only 40 percent of voters had a favorable view of the 2017 tax cuts championed by congressional Republicans and President Donald Trump, according to the Aug. 19-21 poll of more than 1,000 registered voters. The poll has a margin of error of 3 percentage points.
Democrats have made health care a big issue in the upcoming congressional midterm elections, charging that Trump and the GOP-controlled Congress have worked to undermine gains made by Obamacare in the affordability and quality of health care coverage.
Republicans, meanwhile, are campaigning on their tax cuts, which they say have spurred economic development and created jobs.
More: President Donald Trump's answer to Obamacare: Short-term health insurance
More: House votes to delay Obamacare insurance tax, loosen health savings accounts restrictions
Voters expressed a higher opinion of Democrats than Republicans in the poll, with 50 percent saying they have a favorable view of the Democratic Party and 39 percent expressing a favorable view of the Republican Party.
Trump did slightly better than his party, with 41 percent of voters saying they had a favorable opinion of the GOP president.
The economy was the only issue where Trump had a higher percentage of voters approving rather than disapproving of his performance. Poll respondents narrowly approved of Trump's handling of the economy, 49 percent to 44 percent.“
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 5:03:13 GMT
It’s after midnight in DC and this is what’s on trump”s mind.
“Hillary Clinton’s Emails, many of which are Classified Information, got hacked by China. Next move better be by the FBI & DOJ or, after all of their other missteps (Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Ohr, FISA, Dirty Dossier etc.), their credibility will be forever gone!”
Think he is having problems sleeping ?
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Post by Nanner on Aug 29, 2018 12:19:01 GMT
I haven't read any of these Trump catch-all threads until now (and just this last page) because it gets me SO ANGRY that these asshole psychopaths are getting away with so much.
BUT, let me tell you one thing about when Reagan came in. I hope I got all this right - but the gist of it is ...
DH was in high school. Both of his parents had passed away and he was living on his own, an emancipated person. He was going to high school full time and working at night in a fast food restaurant. What he made there, combined with what he got from his deceased father's social security, made it possible for him to barely squeak by, and even eat once or twice a day.
Then Reagan came in. And a deceased parent's SS was now only available if a person was a post-secondary student. Or some such thing. Or maybe that, combined with other qualifications. I don't know. But they took it away from DH, who was 18 and in grade 12. He had to quit school a couple of months before he graduated to work full time. You know - so he had a roof over his head and something to eat, clothes to wear, etc. He contacted whoever his rep was and was more or less told that he wasn't of voting age, so too bad, so sad.
DH's school did graduate him, knowing what was going on. But holy shit. He hates Reagan. And will never ever vote Republican. (He can still vote for president, even though he lives in Canada now).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 13:48:51 GMT
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Post by imsirius on Aug 29, 2018 13:49:44 GMT
Did you all catch this last night?
He posted BEFORE ANY VOTES WERE COUNTED!! Is he Kreskin? ..
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 29, 2018 13:50:04 GMT
“ Fox News poll: Voters like Obamacare more than GOP tax cuts”
From the article “WASHINGTON – Obamacare is more popular with American voters than the Republican-enacted tax cuts, according to a new Fox News Poll. Slightly more than half of voters – 51 percent – had a favorable opinion of the 2010 Affordable Care Act, better known as Obamacare.
In contrast, only 40 percent of voters had a favorable view of the 2017 tax cuts championed by congressional Republicans and President Donald Trump, according to the Aug. 19-21 poll of more than 1,000 registered voters. The poll has a margin of error of 3 percentage points.Repeat repeat...... FOX news Poll!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 13:51:57 GMT
We must stop "watching" and start working to prevent the needless death and pain caused by the angry, uninformed 1/3.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 29, 2018 13:54:43 GMT
This made me smile........ must make someone mad! Guess he will really try to take us out of NATO... NATO considers naming headquarters after McCainBY EMILY BIRNBAUM - 08/29/18 09:06 AM EDT NATO considers naming headquarters after McCain NATO is considering naming its new headquarters after the late Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), CNN reported on Wednesday. Tom Tugendhat, a member of the Conservative party in the the UK parliament, reportedly sent NATO the request after McCain's death on Saturday. Tugendhat is the chair of the British foreign affairs committee. "There can be no more fitting tribute to his career and the values that Sen. McCain espoused — but also no better message for NATO to send at this time of global tension — than to name its new headquarters building after the American statesman," Tugendhat wrote in his proposal, according to CNN. NATO spokesperson Oana Lungescu told CNN that the alliance has received the request and it "will be considered carefully." McCain was a staunch advocate for NATO and supported bringing on other European countries as members of the alliance. The transatlantic alliance recently moved into the new billion-dollar Brussels headquarters. "Very few people embodied the values that NATO is built on in the way Sen. John McCain III did," Tugendhat wrote.thehill.com/homenews/senate/404124-nato-considers-naming-headquarters-after-mccain
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Post by cycworker on Aug 29, 2018 14:02:06 GMT
B Magic... “Have you ever noticed that Trump never mentions Rachel Maddow? Of all the journalists he slams, he never utters her name. Why? Because he's very, very afraid of her. He basically does not bash the ones he’s afraid of. Another example: Avenatti.” and a random response... “It may also be because Maddow doesn't devote her shows to attacks on Trump. She digs into specific stories, methodically peeling back the layers, to get at what is actually happening. Trump doesn't have the attention span to follow her. Too complicated.” 😀 Doesn't have intellect needed to refute her.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 29, 2018 14:06:27 GMT
And finally.. This from trump... “Report just out: “China hacked Hillary Clinton’s private Email Server.” Are they sure it wasn’t Russia (just kidding!)? What are the odds that the FBI and DOJ are right on top of this? Actually, a very big story. Much classified information!” Prompted this response from a John Aravois. “So I looked into this, assuming Trump was pulling it out of his ass. And what do you know, he was. It’s a “story” exclusive to the Daily Caller (a far-right activist rag), that no other news organizations, even conservative ones, have been able to verify. It’s a fake story. I’m told Laura Ingraham reported on this “story” on Fox News tonight. This is what we’re up against. The Daily Caller writes a bogus story. No one else in the media can corroborate it. Trump tweets it anyway. Fox News repeats it. And it becomes a real thing. This is the way the Soviets used to create fake anti-American propaganda. They’d seed a fake story in Africa, then repeat it on Radio Moscow. We have nothing like this on the left. We don’t have an entire TV network like Fox News devoted to lying on behalf of one political party.” You just get so tired of all the lying. I think there needs to be a source dedicated to fact checking Fox News.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 14:39:07 GMT
NPR...
“#Breaking: President Trump has announced that White House counsel Don McGahn will leave the White House this fall.”
I don’t think anyone is surprised by this.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 15:28:21 GMT
Things could get interesting in Florida..
Holly Figueroa O’Reilly...
“What? Excuse me? That Republican dog whistle is more like a megaphone lately.
GOP nominee for #FLGov Ron DeSantis just said Florida shouldn't "monkey this up" by electing Andrew Gillum.
What. The. Holy. Balls.”
There was a video attached and he did say that. And he also said that they needed to build on the great work Scott has done which reminded me of this tweet I had read earlier from a Darryl Fears
“Ninety million dollars in business losses and climbing. In Florida, where the governor cut the budgets of water districts and laid off hundreds of environmental workers, two algae blooms are killing animals, tourism and commerce.”
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 15:35:02 GMT
Chuck Grassley...
“@realdonaldtrump I hope it’s not true McGahn is leaving WhiteHouse Counsel. U can’t let that happen”
I get the feeling that no wants to try and rein in trump but wants someone else to do it. I’ve heard the only person somewhat stopping trump from firing Sessions was McGahn. With him gone trump could get rid of Sessions which means his next target is Mueller which means the Republicans in Congress may actually have to do something instead of pushing it off on someone else is what Grassley means in his tweet.
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Post by imsirius on Aug 29, 2018 16:10:36 GMT
Few thoughts floating today...
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Post by cycworker on Aug 29, 2018 16:23:03 GMT
Do you realize that for part 16 we got to 44 pages in less than one month? omg Sorry..partly my fault. I posted almost the entire Omarosa book. 🤭 Don't apologize - gimme a link so I can catch up w/o buying it
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Post by lizacreates on Aug 29, 2018 17:13:03 GMT
Few thoughts floating today... I despise too much warring in our Congress. But for this one…I say Dems should fight, fight hard, and fight to the finish.
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Post by Merge on Aug 29, 2018 18:13:21 GMT
NPR... “#Breaking: President Trump has announced that White House counsel Don McGahn will leave the White House this fall.” I don’t think anyone is surprised by this. Nope. Sounds like they've found out exactly what he said to Mueller and didn't want to give him the opportunity to hear any more incriminating things.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 29, 2018 18:39:07 GMT
“#Breaking: President Trump has announced that White House counsel Don McGahn will leave the White House this fall.” But AFTER Kavanaugh is confirmed...........
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 19:21:10 GMT
ABC News...
“JUST IN: Pres. Trump defends government's response to Puerto Rico after death toll from Hurricane Maria was officially raised from 64 to almost 3,000.
"I think we did a fantastic job...Most of the people in Puerto Rico really appreciate what we've done." abcn.ws/2BYLRPJ”
Unbelievable.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 19:41:01 GMT
Kyle Griffin..
“The FBI has now also told the AP that it has no evidence Hillary Clinton's private email server was compromised even though Trump tweeted a news report that alleged the Chinese had hacked it.”
Unbelievable.
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