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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 6, 2018 19:24:59 GMT
haha!! next thing you know, we'll see Trump doing the 'hide his face' thing so that we can't see him, lol!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 19:25:27 GMT
senator Dick Durbin...
“For Judge Kavanaugh’s nomination, Republicans have decided to use a GOP lawyer & Kavanaugh’s former deputy, Bill Burck, to lead the document production process. Historically, this is done by the National Archives. Why is Kavanaugh getting special treatment? “
There me is so much wrong with this entire process with the GOP going outside the a norm to get what they want.
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Post by thundergal on Sept 6, 2018 20:10:58 GMT
Kyle Griffin... “Mazie Hirono announces that she'll also release a Committee confidential document to the press, says that if Cory Booker is going to be punished, "count me in, too." It would seem the Democrats are finally finding their backbones. WaPo is reporting that the emails were declassified yesterday and Booker risked nothing by releasing them. As usual Booker is all flash and no substance. His whole career is one stunt or photo op after the next. I wish he had that kind of backbone. Really? Well that's disappointing. Man.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 6, 2018 20:25:48 GMT
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Post by imsirius on Sept 6, 2018 20:35:03 GMT
When you think tey've gone the lowest they could..
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Post by artgirl1 on Sept 6, 2018 21:32:58 GMT
WaPo is reporting that the emails were declassified yesterday and Booker risked nothing by releasing them. As usual Booker is all flash and no substance. His whole career is one stunt or photo op after the next. I wish he had that kind of backbone. WaPo is reporting that the emails were declassified yesterday and Booker risked nothing by releasing them. As usual Booker is all flash and no substance. His whole career is one stunt or photo op after the next. I wish he had that kind of backbone. Really? Well that's disappointing. Man. Lets not be hasty: According to the LA Times live blog: Circling back to this morning’s classified documents debate: Chairman Grassley’s office tells me that the documents requested by Democrats were ordered released before 4 a.m. today and that the Democratic lawmakers were notified before the hearing started that they would be made public. That would have made this morning’s hour of partisan bickering relatively moot. Grassley didn’t reveal this publicly until hours later and Democratic Sen. Cory Booker’s office won’t say whether the lawmaker knew this when he made his remarks. Booker said he would release the documents himself, despite any repercussions for violating Senate rules. Other Democrats jumped to his defense, offering to join Booker in any punishment. Sen. John Cornyn warned that releasing any classified documents comes with a punishment of being expelled from the Senate. “Bring it on,” Booker replied. Did they get released to the WaPo last night, and the Dems this morning? Why did Grassley waste an hour spanking the Dems about that issue first thing during the morning, if they were released yesterday. How much time did the Dems and their staff get to review the documents. Lets not forget, these Senators and their staffs are working triple time during these hearings, and the republicans, have had their hands on them long before the Dems. Fair play and all that.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Sept 6, 2018 21:35:13 GMT
Heh. A Piagetian tweet slam. Love it. Related: Seriously, speaking of Piaget, I’ve more than once idly wondered if the president’s cognitive schema look like a typical adult’s, like this... ...or everything’s just floating around together willy nilly, and he just reaches in and grabs the first colorful thought: (posted by a first grade teacher)
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Sept 6, 2018 21:36:22 GMT
haha!! next thing you know, we'll see Trump doing the 'hide his face' thing so that we can't see him, lol! LOL! Hadn’t seen this yet. You went really young.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 6, 2018 21:57:52 GMT
Kyle Griffin... “According to Axios, a "good number" of current White House officials have privately admitted to them they consider Trump unstable, and at times dangerously slow. The really deep concern and contempt has been at the agencies.” You don’t need White House staffers telling us that, we see it with our own eyes. That is if you are paying attention. Nicole Wallace touched on this yesterday...has the media been too polite and not focused enough on pointing out where trump appears to be mentally impaired. When nothing seems to matter though, I'm not sure how much time the media should be spending on it. Truly unsure. I think the media gives us the information to make our own decisions about his fitness (or lack thereof). I don’t think it should be just up to the media to make a big stink. I think more of US need to make a big stink. What that looks like, I don’t know. But I don’t think anything will change until more Americans demand that this be addressed. Having republicans join in on that would be very helpful. So far the republicans in congress have been pansies. They are letting a small group of people (trumps base) have too much power.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 22:22:05 GMT
He wasn’t the only Democratic Senator that made that statement. And it may be as you are saying. However it looked good and I’ll take it, if for no other reason then it showed how the Republicans are doing their best to withhold information because they are trying to hide stuff.
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Post by artgirl1 on Sept 6, 2018 22:52:52 GMT
Oh Melania, I really don't care, Do you?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 1:00:12 GMT
If true.
David S, Joachim From Bloomberg
“BREAKING:
New York (AP) -- Trump will not answer federal investigators' questions, in writing or in person, about whether he tried to block the probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election, Giuliani tells @ap”
My guess was he never intended to.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 1:10:57 GMT
A little bit more ..
Jesse Ferguson...
“1 HOUR AGO - Kavanaugh confirms he will NOT recuse himself from protecting Trump by denying a Mueller subpoena
1 HOUR LATER - Trump says to Mueller: I'm not talking to you. You gotta subpoena me.
Weird, huh?”
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 1:44:52 GMT
Watching Rachel and she has an interesting take of what the Democrats in the hearing were doing when they released classified emails that weren’t really classified and may have been part of the ones leaked to the New York topimes.
The releasing these specific emails were aimed at two Republican Senators. Collins of Maine and Murkowski of Alaska. Both have said they won’t for someone who does not believe Roe v Wade is settled law. Also there was the email about the protection of native people like in Hawaii and Alaska.
The hope is they can convince these 2 Senators to vote no because of the reasons above. Hence the big show today since neither of these Senators are on the Judiciary Committee.
Was this their plan to convince these Senators to vote no? Who know but it does sound plausible.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 1:46:57 GMT
Maddow Blog explains it better...
“What we're watching at the Kavanaugh hearing in the Senate is a very tightly targeted effort. It may be the only way Democrats can let Republican colleagues know what is at stake for them in this nomination.”
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 3:09:37 GMT
Now this is funny...
Josh Marshall...
“Trump Suggests His Speeches Will One Day Be Seen On Par with the Gettysburg Address, which the Fake News Also Bashed”
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Post by 50offscrapper on Sept 7, 2018 3:22:20 GMT
Kyle Griffin... “Mazie Hirono announces that she'll also release a Committee confidential document to the press, says that if Cory Booker is going to be punished, "count me in, too." It would seem the Democrats are finally finding their backbones. WaPo is reporting that the emails were declassified yesterday and Booker risked nothing by releasing them. As usual Booker is all flash and no substance. His whole career is one stunt or photo op after the next. I wish he had that kind of backbone. Why do people keep saying "classified"? It was committee confidential. Big difference.
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Post by 50offscrapper on Sept 7, 2018 3:27:04 GMT
One more thing, how come Devin Nunes wasn't threatened when he released confidential information to Trump about the Russian investigation.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 3:33:12 GMT
WaPo is reporting that the emails were declassified yesterday and Booker risked nothing by releasing them. As usual Booker is all flash and no substance. His whole career is one stunt or photo op after the next. I wish he had that kind of backbone. Why do people keep saying "classified"? It was committee confidential. Big difference. One of the emails I saw had a big “classified” across it. Whether they were “classified” or “committee confidential” they shouldn’t have been. It’s really that simple.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 3:44:41 GMT
trump...
“Kim Jong Un of North Korea proclaims “unwavering faith in President Trump.” Thank you to Chairman Kim. We will get it done together!”
trump is is so desperate to be liked, he even believes this guy.
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Post by smginaz Suzy on Sept 7, 2018 3:58:53 GMT
I would like to learn the names of the big llama firms only because that sounds fascinating. I asked 2 of my sisters, both of whom are lawyers, and was disappointed that neither could name even one llama firm. Boo.
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Post by smginaz Suzy on Sept 7, 2018 4:00:19 GMT
On another note, I enjoyed participating in the survey and made sure to include the email that I don't use for one damn thing. If only I knew millions of people who would do the survey with me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 4:12:54 GMT
I would like to learn the names of the big llama firms only because that sounds fascinating. I asked 2 of my sisters, both of whom are lawyers, and was disappointed that neither could name even one llama firm. Boo. Glad you enjoyed it. I aim to please.
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Post by smginaz Suzy on Sept 7, 2018 5:17:49 GMT
I would like to learn the names of the big llama firms only because that sounds fascinating. I asked 2 of my sisters, both of whom are lawyers, and was disappointed that neither could name even one llama firm. Boo. Glad you enjoyed it. I aim to please. It truly made me giggle. I love a great autocorrect/typo/whatever. Silly, I know, but sometimes it just brings the feels.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 5:39:00 GMT
Something to ponder. Economist...
“American democracy’s built-in bias towards rural Republicans”
“Its elections no longer convert the popular will into control of government
EVERY system for converting votes into power has its flaws. Britain suffers from an over-mighty executive; Italy from chronically weak government; Israel from small, domineering factions. America, however, is plagued by the only democratic vice more troubling than the tyranny of the majority: tyranny of the minority. This has come about because of a growing division between rural and urban voters. The electoral system the Founders devised, and which their successors elaborated, gives rural voters more clout than urban ones. When the parties stood for both city and country that bias affected them both. But the Republican Party has become disproportionately rural and the Democratic Party disproportionately urban. That means a red vote is worth more than a blue one.
The X factor
The consequences are dramatic. Republicans hold both the houses of Congress and the White House. But in the three elections in 2012-16 their candidates got just 46% of the two-party vote for the Senate, and they won the presidential vote in 2016 with 49%. Our voting model predicts that, for Democrats to have a better than 50% chance of winning control of the House in November’s mid-term elections, they will need to win the popular vote by around seven percentage points. To put that another way, we think the Republicans have a 0.01% chance of winning the popular vote for the House. But we estimate their chance of securing a majority of congressmen is about a third. In no other two-party system does the party that receives the most votes routinely find itself out of power (see Briefing).
This imbalance is partly by design. The greatest and the smallest states each have two senators, in order that Congress should represent territory as well as people. Yet the over-representation of rural America was not supposed to affect the House and the presidency. For most of the past 200 years, when rural, urban and suburban interests were scattered between the parties, it did not. Today, however, the 13 states where people live closest together have 121 Democratic House members and 73 Republican ones, whereas the rest have 163 Republicans and just 72 Democrats. America has one party built on territory and another built on people.
The bias is deepening. Every president who took office in the 20th century did so having won the popular vote. In two of the five elections for 21st-century presidents, the minority won the electoral college. By having elected politicians appoint federal judges, the American system embeds this rural bias in the courts as well. If Brett Kavanaugh, whom President Donald Trump nominated this week, joins the Supreme Court, a conservative court established by a president and Senate who were elected with less than half the two-party vote may end up litigating the fairness of the voting system.
This bias is a dangerous new twist in the tribalism and political dysfunction that is poisoning politics in Washington. Americans often say such partisanship is bad for their country (and that the other lot should mend their ways). The Founding Fathers would have agreed. George Washington warned that “the alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge…is itself a frightful despotism”.
As a component of partisanship, the built-in bias is obviously bad for Democrats. But in the long run it is bad for America as a whole, including Republicans. When lawmaking is paralysed, important work, such as immigration and entitlement reform, is too hard. The few big laws that are approved, like Barack Obama’s health-care reform or Mr Trump’s corporate-tax cuts, pass on party-line votes. That emboldens the opposition to reverse or neuter them when they take power. Meanwhile, the task of resolving the most divisive political issues often falls to the courts. The battle over Mr Kavanaugh’s confirmation will be a proxy war over issues, like abortion and health insurance, better suited to the legislature.
Some may ask why Democrats do not return to positions that appeal to rural voters (see our special report). Recall how Mr Obama won the presidency opposing gay marriage and Bill Clinton built a coalition in the centre-ground. But rancorous political disputes—over guns, abortion and climate change—split so neatly along urban-rural lines that parties and voters increasingly sort themselves into urban-rural tribes. Gerrymandering and party primaries reward extremists, and ensure that, once elected, they seldom need fear for their jobs. The incentives to take extreme positions are very powerful.
Bitter partisanship, ineffective federal government and electoral bias poison politics and are hard to fix. Changing the constitution is hard—and rightly so. Yet the voting system for Congress is easier to reform than most people realise, because the constitution does not stipulate what it should be. Congress last voted to change the rules in 1967.
Second thoughts about first-past-the-post
The aim should be to give office-seekers a reason to build bridges with opponents rather than torch them. If partisanship declined as a result, so would pressure on voters to stick to their tribe. That could make both parties competitive in rural and urban areas again, helping to restore majority rule.
One option, adopted in Maine this year and already proposed in a bill in Congress for use nationwide, is “ranked-choice voting” (RCV), in which voters list candidates in order of preference. After a first count, the candidate with the least support is eliminated, and his or her ballots are reallocated to those voters’ second choice. This continues until someone has a majority. Candidates need second- and third-choice votes from their rivals’ supporters, so they look for common ground with their opponents. Another option is multi-member districts, which were once commonplace and still exist in the Senate. Because they aggregate groups of voters, they make gerrymandering ineffective.
Voting reform is not the whole answer to partisanship and built-in bias, but it would help. It is hard, but not outlandish. To maintain the trust of all Americans, the world’s oldest constitutional democracy needs to reform itself.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 7, 2018 11:00:40 GMT
Now this is funny... Josh Marshall... “Trump Suggests His Speeches Will One Day Be Seen On Par with the Gettysburg Address, which the Fake News Also Bashed” Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Try memorizing THAT word salad in 5th grade!!! Oh, and unlike my 5th grade teacher they won’t be able to take points off for long pauses not to mention filler words like uh or um. His speeches are half filler words. The teachers will have to count that you put in the right amount ( we also had to memorize part of MLK’s ‘I have a dream’ speech )
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Post by imsirius on Sept 7, 2018 11:40:58 GMT
Posted in Kavanaugh thread too..
There is talk of Zina trolling to get a rise from the left...even if she is, how childish and she she be removed from the hearings.
If she isn’t...well hell in a hand basket
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Post by imsirius on Sept 7, 2018 11:42:55 GMT
You can’t make this shit up!,,
Daniel reporting from the rally last night...
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Post by tracyarts on Sept 7, 2018 11:45:21 GMT
His fixation on Kim Jong Un is absolutely creepy and disturbing. He's fanboy-ing a dictator. trump... “Kim Jong Un of North Korea proclaims “unwavering faith in President Trump.” Thank you to Chairman Kim. We will get it done together!” trump is is so desperate to be liked, he even believes this guy.
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Post by imsirius on Sept 7, 2018 12:24:02 GMT
it will be his supporters fault if impeachment happens !!!
Again, blaming others
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