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Post by bingaling on Sept 26, 2018 23:32:07 GMT
I taught the disney classes at Scrappy Do which were 180 from what I do for my own books, but they sold well and I liked the prep. I miss doing them.
I actually know what happened with their closing and tried to work with the owner at PB and move disney classes there as customers were bugging me to continue. That did not go well. I shop online. That should tell you something.
PM me lol...
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Post by scrampinmystyle on Sept 26, 2018 23:37:41 GMT
not every page is meant to be shown I'm not much of a video watcher and I can just about guarantee I'll never MAKE a video but this comment above is one reason I was very hesitant to share my layouts here during the challenges. I'm pretty sure that for most serious scrappers, my layouts fit firmly into that category. Which is okay - because I scrap for me and my family not for other scrappers. I just want to clarify, for me, I agree with that sentiment in the sense that I’ve seen some layouts that are too personal, IMO. I wouldn’t share them online if it were me. I do not mean/agree that a layout is not meant to be shared because it doesn’t fit someone else’s perception of good. I think it’s cool that we all have different styles, and I love seeing how each person scraps. I don’t think there is a wrong way to do it. I think it’s awesome that you share your creativity - it’s a snippet of you, and that is worth sharing.
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Post by KikiPea on Sept 26, 2018 23:49:22 GMT
not every page is meant to be shown I'm not much of a video watcher and I can just about guarantee I'll never MAKE a video but this comment above is one reason I was very hesitant to share my layouts here during the challenges. I'm pretty sure that for most serious scrappers, my layouts fit firmly into that category. Which is okay - because I scrap for me and my family not for other scrappers. Oh no!!!! I did not mean that at all!!! Please don't think that. I love seeing your work! What I meant was some LO's have a 20 min video for something that would take 5 min. I just meant that not a LO's need a video.
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Post by KikiPea on Sept 26, 2018 23:54:51 GMT
I was not going to comment because I am terrified that I might be part of the list of annoyances listed above lol. But I find these kinds of discussions interesting. I started doing videos because in a way it was an option for me share and give back on a platform that I personally had gained a ton of inspiration on. I am still one of the black sheep scrappers who does videos on double page layouts, as many photos as possible, sketches, scraplifts and even predesigned page kits. I like to be true to me and hope that their are others out there looking for that type of content. I do not like the wave of channels pushing Patreon accounts. My channel does not qualify for monetizing and that is fine. It is not my job. I do however sometimes miss teaching at my LSS (bow closed) and that led me to online self paced classes. I feel like that way viewers at my channel still get what they expect and it is free. Paying for an online class is an option. But online classes are a whole other thing. I have paid for classes from a popular youtuber and it was not anything that I did not already see on their YT channel. I won't make and share a class unless there is something of substance to be learned from it. As a consumer that is what I expect. I also try to keep any voice over stuff to be on topic for the class. I am not going tonask someone to pay me and then listen to everyday chit chat like on a normal video. That doesn't feel right to me. Just my two cents...and let me know if I am the one w the arm hair lol! I'd actually like to see your videos! I love 2 pg LO's, and there are very few scrappers that share them by video.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Sept 27, 2018 0:00:39 GMT
This is scrapbooking. It’s not some ridiculously hard thing. We are not reinventing the wheel and there are not a million new techniques to show off. If you are on a design team and are showcasing new products/lines or are a scrapper with a very unique style then I am all for watching a process video. I have been scrapping for almost 18 years and can look at a finished layout and see how it was made. I don’t need to watch a video to see the process. I both agree AND disagree with this statement. Agree, because: I've been scrapping for about 25 years (?!? wow! scary!!) I saw hand-lettering and doodling on scrapbook pages when they first came out, because those were the ONLY types of embellishments we HAD back then! I saw 'mixed-media' and traveler's notebook-type embellishing years ago on projects because I also do art-journaling. I was 'taught' art journaling by a very inspiring woman whose mantra is "what if?" and that there is NO 'right' or 'wrong' way to do anything, there's just what you want to try-- and if it doesn't work out, try something else-- it's only paper and glue. so, because of that, a lot of what I see in certain videos is "hey, here's this new thing we [the industry] just came up with... and you need to have these products, and do it this particular way (so that we can sell you this product). But I don't think most of it IS new; it's been done before-- it's only been re-packaged for a new and different audience to spend money on. And the 'right way/wrong way' thing can also makes people feel BAD about their own creativity and skill level, because they [think they] can't do things 'right' or 'as good as' the person in the video. Disagree, because: I've been scrapping for 25 years-- but I know a lot of people haven't. Those newer scrappers DO need to be exposed to techniques and products that MAY be 'new' to them. So I try not to let the irritating stuff get to me too much- I just don't watch those videos. Although I do think a lot of what's out there right now is REALLY useless-- buy a real typewriter from a garage sale or thrift store, not a plastic one from WRMK just because it's mint green. Just punch holes (using a stencil, a ruler, whatever) in your page and sew by hand instead of buying the hokey Sew-Easy tool, which didn't work at all, anyway (yes, I'm still bitter about that, lol). Do Project Life or don't do Project Life; do one-page, one-photo layouts or multi-photo, multi-page layouts... use 10 patterned papers on your page, or only use two colors of cardstock: whatever you want to do and HOWEVER you want to do it really IS OKAY. I like watching videos from people I connect with on a personal level, and hearing / seeing other people excited about creating makes ME excited about creating. Being told how to do things when I know there's LOTS of ways to do things, or being shown a ton of products thrown onto a page just to sell the products, not so much. I do like getting tips if they're useful to me; I just skip past the videos that are basically 'commercials' for product. Because in the end, it really is all 'just' paper and glue, and for US, the CONSUMERS, it's supposed to be FUN. (I still need to remind myself of that, because sometimes I take myself and my pages way too seriously!!) <steps off soapbox. > ETA: KikiPea: Coliebing's youtube channel She's one of the scrappers I love to watch, to hear how she works through her process. (and, I also do 2-pg, multi-photo layouts... other scrappers who do the same are few and far between on youtube.)
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Sept 27, 2018 0:01:47 GMT
I was not going to comment because I am terrified that I might be part of the list of annoyances listed above lol. But I find these kinds of discussions interesting. I started doing videos because in a way it was an option for me share and give back on a platform that I personally had gained a ton of inspiration on. I am still one of the black sheep scrappers who does videos on double page layouts, as many photos as possible, sketches, scraplifts and even predesigned page kits. I like to be true to me and hope that their are others out there looking for that type of content. I do not like the wave of channels pushing Patreon accounts. My channel does not qualify for monetizing and that is fine. It is not my job. I do however sometimes miss teaching at my LSS (bow closed) and that led me to online self paced classes. I feel like that way viewers at my channel still get what they expect and it is free. Paying for an online class is an option. But online classes are a whole other thing. I have paid for classes from a popular youtuber and it was not anything that I did not already see on their YT channel. I won't make and share a class unless there is something of substance to be learned from it. As a consumer that is what I expect. I also try to keep any voice over stuff to be on topic for the class. I am not going tonask someone to pay me and then listen to everyday chit chat like on a normal video. That doesn't feel right to me. Just my two cents...and let me know if I am the one w the arm hair lol! I'd actually like to see your videos! I love 2 pg LO's, and there are very few scrappers that share them by video. I 2nd this! The content doesn't need to appeal to what I do, the person has to be interesting. There are a lot of people out there who make AMAZING things but something about them doesn't jive with me (nothing personal at all, no one is going to appeal to everyone) and then there are people who could post photos of their work and you could easily dissect it that I watch the videos for anyway because they are entertaining or I relate to them in some way. The only thing I try not to watch anymore are haul videos because they make me want to buy things. I had been doing so well not buying stuff for about 16 months and then this summer ate up all that I had saved. I'm happy with what I picked up but I need to start saving for Black Friday sales now!
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Post by scrampinmystyle on Sept 27, 2018 0:04:57 GMT
- When you put yourself out there you do open yourself up for criticism, but it's still hard to here. That one thumbs down can suck big time. - I have no problem with people turning to Patreon to try to earn a living from their art. If they provide a product that I feel is worth a few bucks a month then I will pay, and if they don't, I always have the option not to keep subscribing. - I will never do Patreon, as I view scrapbooking as a hobby only. But for others it may be a stepping stone to a job in the industry, and I will never put down another woman artist (or an artist if any gender for that matter) for going after her dream. I know criticism can be hard to hear, but I think it’s a trade-off someone makes if they want to put themselves out there. That being said, I think there’s a difference between criticizing someone’s video length versus the hair on their arms. I think you (general you) have to have enough self-confidence to not put too much stock into a thumbs down or negative comment. I like to try to see the glass as half full, and would instead focus on all the thumbs up. I’d like to think that I’d never put someone else down for following their dreams, but I’m human and I’m sure I’ve criticized or speculated a person’s decisions. Patreon doesn’t bother me either because I can choose to not pay for it.
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Post by bingaling on Sept 27, 2018 0:05:36 GMT
[/quote]I'd actually like to see your videos! I love 2 pg LO's, and there are very few scrappers that share them by video.[/quote] I am ColieBing on YT
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Sept 27, 2018 0:10:51 GMT
This is scrapbooking. It’s not some ridiculously hard thing. We are not reinventing the wheel and there are not a million new techniques to show off. If you are on a design team and are showcasing new products/lines or are a scrapper with a very unique style then I am all for watching a process video. I have been scrapping for almost 18 years and can look at a finished layout and see how it was made. I don’t need to watch a video to see the process. I both agree AND disagree with this statement. Agree, because: I've been scrapping for about 25 years (?!? wow! scary!!) I saw hand-lettering and doodling on scrapbook pages when they first came out, because those were the ONLY types of embellishments we HAD back then! I saw 'mixed-media' and traveler's notebook-type embellishing years ago on projects because I also do art-journaling. I was 'taught' art journaling by a very inspiring woman whose mantra is "what if?" and that there is NO 'right' or 'wrong' way to do anything, there's just what you want to try-- and if it doesn't work out, try something else-- it's only paper and glue. so, because of that, a lot of what I see in certain videos is "hey, here's this new thing we [the industry] just came up with... and you need to have these products, and do it this particular way (so that we can sell you this product). But I don't think most of it IS new; it's been done before-- it's only been re-packaged for a new and different audience to spend money on. And the 'right way/wrong way' thing can also makes people feel BAD about their own creativity and skill level, because they [think they] can't do things 'right' or 'as good as' the person in the video. Disagree, because: I've been scrapping for 25 years-- but I know a lot of people haven't. Those newer scrappers DO need to be exposed to techniques and products that MAY be 'new' to them. So I try not to let the irritating stuff get to me too much- I just don't watch those videos. Although I do think a lot of what's out there right now is REALLY useless-- buy a real typewriter from a garage sale or thrift store, not a plastic one from WRMK just because it's mint green. Just punch holes (using a stencil, a ruler, whatever) in your page and sew by hand instead of buying the hokey Sew-Easy tool, which didn't work at all, anyway (yes, I'm still bitter about that, lol). Do Project Life or don't do Project Life; do one-page, one-photo layouts or multi-photo, multi-page layouts... use 10 patterned papers on your page, or only use two colors of cardstock: whatever you want to do and HOWEVER you want to do it really IS OKAY. I like watching videos from people I connect with on a personal level, and hearing / seeing other people excited about creating makes ME excited about creating. Being told how to do things when I know there's LOTS of ways to do things, or being shown a ton of products thrown onto a page just to sell the products, not so much. I do like getting tips if they're useful to me; I just skip past the videos that are basically 'commercials' for product. Because in the end, it really is all 'just' paper and glue, and for US, the CONSUMERS, it's supposed to be FUN. (I still need to remind myself of that, because sometimes I take myself and my pages way too seriously!!) <steps off soapbox. > I totally agree with this. There are a lot of people out there (like Sandra Allnock...who actually made me feel like I should be ashamed for having a lot of stuff) who really push the idea that you don't have to have everything to create stuff, but more are trying to sell you something than aren't. I feel like Jennifer McGuire is one of those that tries to toe the line, but everything she's demonstrating is using new releases (often very expensive new releases) so of course people are going to ooh and aah over it.
One of the few things I'm kind of okay with the scrappy world (or at least American Crafts) recreating is the acrylic pour stuff because you need a lot of supplies to start and you won't even know if you like it until you try it out. They do the pre-done kits so you don't have to buy expensive ingredients like floetrol in huge containers. Sometimes you can actually save money getting the scrapbook labeled version of something...sadly more often than not, it's more expensive being a trendy item than it would be to walk into a craft store's fine arts aisle to buy the same thing in different packaging.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Sept 27, 2018 0:18:34 GMT
- When you put yourself out there you do open yourself up for criticism, but it's still hard to here. That one thumbs down can suck big time. - I have no problem with people turning to Patreon to try to earn a living from their art. If they provide a product that I feel is worth a few bucks a month then I will pay, and if they don't, I always have the option not to keep subscribing. - I will never do Patreon, as I view scrapbooking as a hobby only. But for others it may be a stepping stone to a job in the industry, and I will never put down another woman artist (or an artist if any gender for that matter) for going after her dream. I know criticism can be hard to hear, but I think it’s a trade-off someone makes if they want to put themselves out there. That being said, I think there’s a difference between criticizing someone’s video length versus the hair on their arms. I think you (general you) have to have enough self-confidence to not put too much stock into a thumbs down or negative comment. I like to try to see the glass as half full, and would instead focus on all the thumbs up. I’d like to think that I’d never put someone else down for following their dreams, but I’m human and I’m sure I’ve criticized or speculated a person’s decisions. Patreon doesn’t bother me either because I can choose to not pay for it. I feel like I'm quoting everyone, but I agree with this, too! I hate videos dedicated to complaining about thumbs down more than just about anything else on YouTube. It perpetuates the participation trophy ideals that plague millenials. I've seen videos that basically call anyone who dares give a creative person a thumbs down a sad person who enjoys trying to upset other people. Sometimes someone just doesn't like what you've made, sometimes your usual video quality isn't there and sometimes people have something constructive to add but if they do there are people who will jump down their throat and tell them to shut up and keep their opinion to themselves when they're just trying to offer advice (I've seen all sorts of ganging up on people in the comments on youtube) to the creator. A thumbs down doesn't automatically mean there is a sexually repressed, depressed, alcoholic, incredibly jealous person on the other end of it.
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Post by scrampinmystyle on Sept 27, 2018 0:24:12 GMT
One thing that bothers me a LOT (irrationally, perhaps) is when the person does NOT show the finished product at the very beginning of the video!! I want to see what you're working towards, so I can have that in mind as I watch the video progress. Without that, it's just like 'hey, watch me make something, and we'll both be surprised with what ends up happening' and I can't stand that. I chuckled at this because I’m the exact opposite. I’m saying to myself ‘man now I know what it looks like. No point in watching.’ I like to be surprised to see/hear how the creator accomplished the finished product, and why they made the choices they did to get there. Gives me something to look forward to, otherwise I’m bored because I feel like I already know where the video is headed.
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Post by KikiPea on Sept 27, 2018 1:16:16 GMT
ETA: KikiPea : Coliebing's youtube channel She's one of the scrappers I love to watch, to hear how she works through her process. (and, I also do 2-pg, multi-photo layouts... other scrappers who do the same are few and far between on youtube.) Thank you! 😁
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 27, 2018 1:34:58 GMT
I TOTALLY agree on the crinkling plastic and glassine bags!!!! Makes me in-sane!! And I agree on the eating/drinking on videos. But I do love the cat interruptions. lol Absolutely. My favorite too. Human interruptions? Edit the video.
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Post by KelleeM on Sept 27, 2018 14:13:15 GMT
But I do love the cat interruptions. lol haha!! me, too!! (makes me feel better about the fact that my cats do it, too, lol!) Crinkling doesn’t bother me and I love the cats! Especially mercytiara’s!!
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Post by oliquig on Sept 27, 2018 16:03:19 GMT
My cat LOVES to be in my videos, she's almost always there, but you have no idea how much of her I have to cut out!
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Post by riversong1963 on Sept 28, 2018 3:46:30 GMT
I like the crinkling. The cats are OK, but they can get annoying if they're all over the place. I haven't found a scrapbooking process video that I've really liked in its entirety yet. I find most of them too long and fussy for me. Sometimes I get good ideas from them, but I usually get annoyed before it's over. It drives me crazy when someone tears apart everything she stuck down at the beginning of the video, or covers up some gorgeous paper, leaving only a tiny portion showing. I really try not to leave negative comments or give them a thumbs-down
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Post by topcropper on Sept 28, 2018 10:30:30 GMT
I agree with most of you above!! And on the note of videos, if I don't like someone's voice or there is a freaking SMOKE ALARM with a low battery beeping- I don't care what the video is about I CANNOT watch it!! Maybe on mute?? Am I the only one that the beeping drives crazy?? There is a lady who speaks in such a way that it makes me cringe every time I hear her talk. I'd never heard anyone speak like her before last week. The woman on the phone helping me with something was very kind and I managed to deal with it because it wasn't as bad as this youtuber's voice, but it's like nails on a chalkboard to me. It's like an over-enunciation of certain sounds. An extra 'uh' or 'tuh' sound at the end of every couple of words. 'This-uh is-uh how I organize-uh my-uh art-uh su-uh-pplies' I cannot do it.
I also hate it when people chew or drink in their videos. It's worse when people are using a microphone for voice overs because the audio is clearer, but I also can't stand that sound in real life unless I'm also eating/drinking. There is a universal consensus that plastic crinkling is awful, so if you don't understand why this bothers me, try thinking of crinkling every time someone chews or swallows in a video to understand my pain. I must spend 10 minutes a meal telling my middle child (every meal for 3 years now) to chew with his mouth shut only to then hear him sound like that character from Hey Arnold! who nasally wheezes over the mean girl's shoulder at least once every video. My husband is also used to me getting up and walking out of a room mid conversation if he's eating or drinking and the sound has become too much for me.
Ha I know EXACTLY who you are talking about 😂 My bestie & I were talking about her the other day. We cannot figure out why she talks like that? I just Can’t 🤯
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