johnnysmom
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Post by johnnysmom on Nov 7, 2018 16:39:18 GMT
I just picked Remington (a full lab) from the groomers (first time being groomed other than while boarded, first time we've used this groomer period) and when I walked in her first words were "he needs to be fixed"  we know he's hyper and a bit of a butthead. He's 9 months now. The groomer and all Labrador specific forums (over the top lab owners IMO  ) recommend waiting until they're full-grown, around 12-18mos. The vet/vet techs recommend 6 months. What did you do? ETA pic cuz I’m not new here 😉 
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Post by MichyM on Nov 7, 2018 16:42:13 GMT
I just picked Remington (a full lab) from the groomers (first time being groomed other than while boarded, first time we've used this groomer period) and when I walked in her first words were "he needs to be fixed"  we know he's hyper and a bit of a butthead. He's 9 months now. The groomer and all Labrador specific forums (over the top lab owners IMO  ) recommend waiting until they're full-grown, around 12-18mos. The vet/vet techs recommend 6 months. What did you do? ETA pic cuz I’m not new here 😉  It’s been years since I’ve had a dog, but I’d take my vets advice over some “over the top lab owners” recommendations any day.
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Post by busy on Nov 7, 2018 16:43:53 GMT
I'd never wait longer than 6 months. I say this because most people are ill-equipped to manage sexually mature dogs, especially large breed unneutered male dogs. The risks and downsides to living with an unaltered dog outweigh any possible increase in incidence of joint conditions IMO.
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Post by Sparki on Nov 7, 2018 16:45:30 GMT
I have an Anatolian Shepherd. He's 14 months right now. I'm waiting till 18 months. Vets recommendation for giant breed dogs. The vet said that neutering early causes joint and back problems for these large breeds.
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smartypants71
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Post by smartypants71 on Nov 7, 2018 16:46:41 GMT
I got my dog when he was 3 and at that point had him neutered.
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Post by its me mg on Nov 7, 2018 16:47:40 GMT
We waited until our girl was about 10 months old -- we were advised by our vet that big dogs (I had a lab) should wait as long as possible. Big dogs have hip/health problems and waiting is better for their health long term, if possible.
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Post by hop2 on Nov 7, 2018 16:54:37 GMT
We fixed our at 11 1/2 ish months our vet was extremely against waiting but the person we bought him from wanted them to be full grown first as it affects thier growth plates.
In hind sight I’d never have agreed to wait. The vet was right what are a few inches in growth compared to the behavior we could have been stuck with. Once they start ‘boy’ behavior ( marking and stuff ) it won’t dissapear after they are fixed. I now realize we were extremely lucky as mine never started marking things or humping things. And a friends dog was fixed later and he still has all that annoying behavior. I would trust your vet.
Mine only got territorial and marked this one little square at my old house that the neighbors 3 boy dogs also peed on. Between the 4 of them ( my 1 & her 3 ) they made the area dead with all thier peeing. THAT 4x4 square between our houses by the street with *the* fire hydrant was apparently the *IT* square of territory to be claimed. My dog couldn’t walk past there without peeing where ever the neighbor dogs peed. I can not imagine if he had gotten totally territorial and marked everywhere!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 17:05:19 GMT
We waited until our girl was about 10 months old -- we were advised by our vet that big dogs (I had a lab) should wait as long as possible. Big dogs have hip/health problems and waiting is better for their health long term, if possible. This! We waited as long as we could (9 months) but would have waited longer. It was required for kennel/daycamp stays so had to. I wanted to wait until 18 months because it is better for larger breeds.
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Post by Susie_Homemaker on Nov 7, 2018 17:08:18 GMT
We waited until 12 months old for our golden retrievers.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Nov 7, 2018 17:16:03 GMT
Over the years we’ve seen the shift from alter early to alter later. We have larger dogs (German Shepherd Dogs and Samoyeds). We prefer to wait to alter until at least the growth plates close. For our female we waited until after her second heat.
Labs tend to have puppy brain for at least two years so as long as you can control your boy, I would wait until he was at least a year old to neuter him. My preference would be after two years old.
In my circle we do a lot of later spay/neuter because of showing and dog sports. We have never had an oops litter because we are very, very careful.
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Post by Basket1lady on Nov 7, 2018 17:20:10 GMT
He’s so pretty!
I’ve only had lab females and we spayed at 6 months.
There are some theories about large breeds and hips. We opted for a smaller dog and less risk of hip problems and stopped feeding puppy chow at 6 months. Their growth will slow, but that’s supposed to help with hips. Our current dog was bred, so we know there isn’t hip problems in her family, but we were still cautious. Labs grow until 18-20 months.
Honestly? I’d choose a well behaved dog with hip problems for the average owner over no hip issues. And it’s just a chance of hip problems-not a guarantee.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Nov 7, 2018 17:21:48 GMT
We fixed our at 11 1/2 ish months our vet was extremely against waiting but the person we bought him from wanted them to be full grown first as it affects thier growth plates. In hind sight I’d never have agreed to wait. The vet was right what are a few inches in growth compared to the behavior we could have been stuck with. Once they start ‘boy’ behavior ( marking and stuff ) it won’t dissapear after they are fixed. I now realize we were extremely lucky as mine never started marking things or humping things. And a friends dog was fixed later and he still has all that annoying behavior. I would trust your vet. Mine only got territorial and marked this one little square at my old house that the neighbors 3 boy dogs also peed on. Between the 4 of them ( my 1 & her 3 ) they made the area dead with all thier peeing. THAT 4x4 square between our houses by the street with *the* fire hydrant was apparently the *IT* square of territory to be claimed. My dog couldn’t walk past there without peeing where ever the neighbor dogs peed. I can not imagine if he had gotten totally territorial and marked everywhere! I have had three males, neuter or intact, always at least two living together. None of mine have been humpers or marked anything inside. Two of them peed by squatting most of their lives. My intact boy is allowed to mark outside in our yard. He is allowed controlled marking in public areas. Most boys can be taught when and where marking is allowed 
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tracylynn
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Post by tracylynn on Nov 7, 2018 17:23:22 GMT
As early as the Vet said it was OK to. My first dog at 6 months, the 2nd one at 4 months.
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Post by Montannie on Nov 7, 2018 17:23:45 GMT
Our vet told us 1-1 1/2 years for Fritz, our German Shepherd. He's nearly a year old, still a silly, 85-lb puppy!
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Post by busy on Nov 7, 2018 17:25:06 GMT
Over the years we’ve seen the shift from alter early to alter later. We have larger dogs (German Shepherd Dogs and Samoyeds). We prefer to wait to alter until at least the growth plates close. For our female we waited until after her second heat. Labs tend to have puppy brain for at least two years so as long as you can control your boy, I would wait until he was at least a year old to neuter him. My preference would be after two years old. In my circle we do a lot of later spay/neuter because of showing and dog sports. We have never had an oops litter because we are very, very careful. I totally agree with this for highly experienced pet owners and obviously for performance/show owners. But for less experienced pet owners, I'm very leery about altering later, and not just oops litters. Behavioral issues, etc. that could fairly easily result in choices to re-home dogs, ending up with out of control dogs, etc.
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Post by busy on Nov 7, 2018 17:27:21 GMT
Most boys can be taught when and where marking is allowed By people who are knowledgeable enough and willing to put in that effort. And I think we both know that your average pet owner isn't always up to that kind of task.
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Post by kelly8875 on Nov 7, 2018 17:28:14 GMT
We fixed our German Shepherd at 9 months. Ideally we would have waited the 18 months, but he was getting big, and rougher. At the time we had 2 small cats and 2 small dogs also. It wasn’t fair to those pets, so we clipped him. We also were needing the ability to kennel him a few months later and needed him clipped and healed then. He just turned 2 last week, and is doing great. ❤️ 
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 17:31:41 GMT
I think she was 2 months. Honestly we picked her out of box at Walmart , called the vet the next and within a week her was done.
She had the very expensive one done.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Nov 7, 2018 17:35:00 GMT
Most boys can be taught when and where marking is allowed By people who are knowledgeable enough and willing to put in that effort. And I think we both know that your average pet owner isn't always up to that kind of task. This is the first dog I’ve ever trained  My knowledge is self taught, I was really embarrassed recently when an obedience person asked who I train with I love to help educate newbies because we were all newbies once. Well most of us  I really regret neutering our first Samoyed early and we never repeated that mistake again.
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Nov 7, 2018 17:35:32 GMT
I think Gingersnap was 6 months old. We followed the vets recommendation and got him fixed when they told us to.
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Post by sabrinae on Nov 7, 2018 17:41:11 GMT
Our girl is a mixture of giant breeds so we’re holding off until st least a year, but with a lab I would personally go ahead and have him neutered at his age
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johnnysmom
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Post by johnnysmom on Nov 7, 2018 17:43:29 GMT
By people who are knowledgeable enough and willing to put in that effort. And I think we both know that your average pet owner isn't always up to that kind of task. This is the first dog I’ve ever trained  My knowledge is self taught, I was really embarrassed recently when an obedience person asked who I train with I love to help educate newbies because we were all newbies once. Well most of us I really regret neutering our first Samoyed early and we never repeated that mistake again.Out of curiosity, why do you regret it?
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Post by Really Red on Nov 7, 2018 17:52:40 GMT
My breeder says 1 year. Vet says 6 mos. I did my research. I'd choose one year. (My vet wasn't adamantly opposed either).
Do what you think is right.
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Post by christine58 on Nov 7, 2018 18:00:22 GMT
This silly girl--full lab--was fixed at just shy of 6 months. Vet said that the smaller they are, the smaller the organs are that get removed. She mentioned that some "lab owners/breeders" suggest letting them go through a heat because they think it causes fewer muscle/cancer issues. She said there's no real proof. Harper was back to her old self within a few days. Oh and it has not calmed her down one bit...LOL..But if I wanted to board her etc, she needed to be fixed because if she went into heat while there, I had to come get her. My other two large breeds were also fixed by six months, one lived to 15 (Lab) and the other to 13. . 
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Post by Basket1lady on Nov 7, 2018 18:09:27 GMT
By people who are knowledgeable enough and willing to put in that effort. And I think we both know that your average pet owner isn't always up to that kind of task. This is the first dog I’ve ever trained  My knowledge is self taught, I was really embarrassed recently when an obedience person asked who I train with I love to help educate newbies because we were all newbies once. Well most of us I really regret neutering our first Samoyed early and we never repeated that mistake again. I'm wondering why? Not trying to argue, but just to educate myself!
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Post by schizo319 on Nov 7, 2018 18:19:34 GMT
Our 60lb husky was spayed at 7 months (because that's how old she was when we adopted her from the shelter).
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Post by ladytrisha on Nov 7, 2018 18:23:47 GMT
last large pitmix boy was 9 weeks; our border collie/lab was 4 months; my other border collie mix girl was spayed at 9 weeks also.
Shelter and rescues won't let you adopt unless they're fixed. This is the 2nd time in as many days as I'm hearing to wait ... of course the problem is then unexpected litters as dogs tend to get together and do their thang.
My vet ran a low cost spay/neuter clinic and also tried to get most of the feral cats in our county fixed - birthrates were slowed big time and then it took one season and the population soared.
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Post by bethany102399 on Nov 7, 2018 18:31:55 GMT
George is a Pyr/Kom mix and I remember it being summer, so 6 months, maybe 7. We followed the recommendations of our vet. George is now 98lbs and 2 years old and still rambunctious from time to time.
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Post by alsomsknit on Nov 7, 2018 18:43:56 GMT
Girlie is a Lab-mix. We had her spayed whenever the vet recommended. Had zero clue that one should wait with larger breeds.
We weren’t looking for any specific breed, other than not purebred. Fell in love with her wrinkly puppy face. And, she was a free puppy. The most expensive free puppy in the history of puppies. LOL!
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Post by peaname on Nov 7, 2018 19:13:13 GMT
We waited a full year for our Golden and we are glad we did because his head filled out more than our previous Golden. No behavior or roaming issues.
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