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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 13:30:04 GMT
Common Denominator? Hmmmm. Could it be that 10% of the world wealthiest own 90% of the world's wealth? Leaving 90% of the planet to fight for the 10% scraps? That 1% of the worlds wealthiest own 50% of the world's wealth as much as the other 99% COMBINED? That this disgusting obscene wealth concentration has left too many EVERYWHERE suffering in pain? Naw, that can't be it. www.wider.unu.edu/sites/default/files/wp2016-3.pdf |
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Post by lurkyloo on Dec 11, 2018 13:33:24 GMT
Capitalism for the win.
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Post by lucyg on Dec 11, 2018 16:35:24 GMT
What does the thread title have to do with the thread content?  |
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Post by bratkar on Dec 11, 2018 16:39:52 GMT
What does the thread title have to do with the thread content? my thoughts exactly! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 17:23:41 GMT
I think what you have done is try and take a very complex issue or issues and simplify it. That money is the root of all evil when it’s not.
i believe you can tie in all of these items to the ills of the world..
* Wealth inequality - Sure it plays a part.
But so do these..
* Power and power grabs
* Racism
* Not in my backyard syndrome
* Ideology
* Stupidity
And most of these reason have to do with “everyday people” and what they believe, whether it’s based on facts or not, and not just because of those with extreme wealth.
IMO.
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Post by muggins on Dec 11, 2018 18:06:05 GMT
The patriarchy
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 18:56:40 GMT
What does the thread title have to do with the thread content? Common denominator as obscene wealth inequality underlying the poor and left behind in all countries to suffer and rebel in various ways: demonstrations, Brexit, asylum-seeking, etc. |
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Post by katiejane on Dec 11, 2018 20:25:06 GMT
Sorry I am confused.
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Post by moodyblue on Dec 11, 2018 23:06:37 GMT
I think what you have done is try and take a very complex issue or issues and simplify it. That money is the root of all evil when it’s not. i believe you can tie in all of these items to the ills of the world.. * Wealth inequality - Sure it plays a part. But so do these.. * Power and power grabs * Racism * Not in my backyard syndrome * Ideology * Stupidity And most of these reason have to do with “everyday people” and what they believe, whether it’s based on facts or not, and not just because of those with extreme wealth. IMO. Actually, I think the full quote is that "love of money is the root of all evil." |
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Post by AnotherPea on Dec 11, 2018 23:21:08 GMT
I don't get these type of comments. I really don't. What do you think should be done about the discrepancy in incomes? Should billionaires write checks to random people to even things out? Is there a cap on how much money someone should make? Who gets to decide that number?
What are YOU doing, actively doing, to close the gap between the poorest and the richest? You are aware, aren't you, that you yourself are probably one of the richest people in the world? I read somewhere that in order to be in the top 1% richest people in the world you had to earn something like $35K a year.
Are you willing to give up the comforts that your wealth provides in order to make things more fair world-wide? In order to be "fair" are you willing to get rid of electricity, running water, three meals a day? You accept those as norms of life, I assume. But to many, many others around the globe, those are luxuries. How can you expect those far wealthier than you to give up their luxuries if you aren't willing to do the same?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 23:54:29 GMT
I don't get these type of comments. I really don't. What do you think should be done about the discrepancy in incomes? Should billionaires write checks to random people to even things out? Is there a cap on how much money someone should make? Who gets to decide that number? What are YOU doing, actively doing, to close the gap between the poorest and the richest? You are aware, aren't you, that you yourself are probably one of the richest people in the world? I read somewhere that in order to be in the top 1% richest people in the world you had to earn something like $35K a year. Are you willing to give up the comforts that your wealth provides in order to make things more fair world-wide? In order to be "fair" are you willing to get rid of electricity, running water, three meals a day? You accept those as norms of life, I assume. But to many, many others around the globe, those are luxuries. How can you expect those far wealthier than you to give up their luxuries if you aren't willing to do the same? 90% NINETY FUCKING PERCENT is in the hands of 10% of the people. 50% is in the hands of 1% of the people. It needs to be extricated from that obscene concentration and moved throughout more segments of the world - putting people to work, giving them jobs, hope and income. What am I doing? Advocating, writing, sending money. And yes, I am squarely ensconced w/in the top 10% - and beyond. So, yes, I know it would mean I personally would have less. And, of course I am willing to do that. WTF do you think this post is about?!?! But real change can't happen without unlocking the trillions and trillions on which the top .001% are engorged and which primarily circulates in the upper reaches of the economy - jets, yachts, Beyonce to your private party, penthouses, servants, jewelry, etc. |
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Post by AnotherPea on Dec 12, 2018 0:49:20 GMT
You're willing, or you're doing? Are you sharing your home with one or more other families? Do you eat only one or two meals a day? Have you donated all but two or three outfits to others less fortunate than you? Do you waste ANY food at all? Do you walk miles/hours to your job each day? What does "it" mean when you say "I know it would mean I personally would have less?" Do you mean everyone having the same standard of living? I don't think you really understand what that would entail, if you're willing to do that. And if you are willing to, why don't you? Go ahead and start today.
Do you also understand that to someone that has no roof, little to no food and drinking water, your Honda Accord is no different than a yacht? You having someone prepare your food and bring it to your table in a restaurant is no different than having a personal chef? Until you have completely eliminated the hypocrisy from your argument, you need to stop being so judgmental about those that have more than you.
I'll never understand why so many people are so eager to give away OTHER PEOPLE'S money and continue to live in their very comfortable lives.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 2:31:28 GMT
You're willing, or you're doing? Are you sharing your home with one or more other families? Do you eat only one or two meals a day? Have you donated all but two or three outfits to others less fortunate than you? Do you waste ANY food at all? Do you walk miles/hours to your job each day? What does "it" mean when you say "I know it would mean I personally would have less?" Do you mean everyone having the same standard of living? I don't think you really understand what that would entail, if you're willing to do that. And if you are willing to, why don't you? Go ahead and start today. Do you also understand that to someone that has no roof, little to no food and drinking water, your Honda Accord is no different than a yacht? You having someone prepare your food and bring it to your table in a restaurant is no different than having a personal chef? Until you have completely eliminated the hypocrisy from your argument, you need to stop being so judgmental about those that have more than you. I'll never understand why so many people are so eager to give away OTHER PEOPLE'S money and continue to live in their very comfortable lives. As I said, me working in a vacuum isn't going to solve this. We need the TRILLIONS locked up in the hands of a few tens of thousand out of the 7+Billion to get that wealth moving into the hands of the starving, desperate, terrorized, hopeless --- along with wealth from me and those like me. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/15/50000-yemeni-children-will-die-end-year-aid-group-warns/ |
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Post by lucyg on Dec 12, 2018 3:05:52 GMT
You're willing, or you're doing? Are you sharing your home with one or more other families? Do you eat only one or two meals a day? Have you donated all but two or three outfits to others less fortunate than you? Do you waste ANY food at all? Do you walk miles/hours to your job each day? What does "it" mean when you say "I know it would mean I personally would have less?" Do you mean everyone having the same standard of living? I don't think you really understand what that would entail, if you're willing to do that. And if you are willing to, why don't you? Go ahead and start today. Do you also understand that to someone that has no roof, little to no food and drinking water, your Honda Accord is no different than a yacht? You having someone prepare your food and bring it to your table in a restaurant is no different than having a personal chef? Until you have completely eliminated the hypocrisy from your argument, you need to stop being so judgmental about those that have more than you. I'll never understand why so many people are so eager to give away OTHER PEOPLE'S money and continue to live in their very comfortable lives. Me, I’m happy to pay higher taxes if it will benefit more needy people. I’m okay with doing that, without some rightwinger telling me I’m doing it wrong if I don’t open my house to starving Bengalese. But where I want to start is with higher income taxes for billionaires. Kill that damn Trump tax cut. You can call it redistribution of wealth if you like. I call it non-regressive income taxes. ETA benefitting everyone (yes, billionaires too), not just the uber-wealthy. If the billionaires all want to move to Switzerland to avoid paying taxes ... okay. We’ll make do here. Bye! |
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Post by scorpeao on Dec 17, 2018 20:24:57 GMT
I don't get these type of comments. I really don't. What do you think should be done about the discrepancy in incomes? Should billionaires write checks to random people to even things out? Is there a cap on how much money someone should make? Who gets to decide that number? What are YOU doing, actively doing, to close the gap between the poorest and the richest? You are aware, aren't you, that you yourself are probably one of the richest people in the world? I read somewhere that in order to be in the top 1% richest people in the world you had to earn something like $35K a year. Are you willing to give up the comforts that your wealth provides in order to make things more fair world-wide? In order to be "fair" are you willing to get rid of electricity, running water, three meals a day? You accept those as norms of life, I assume. But to many, many others around the globe, those are luxuries. How can you expect those far wealthier than you to give up their luxuries if you aren't willing to do the same? Let's see...we elected a business man for a president who immediately gave himself and all his buddies a huge tax break that doesn't expire. He purportedly gave the rest of us tax breaks too, but those expire. So, you tell me what needs to be done? How about we stop taxing middle income to death, and stop allowing the 1% to hide their income in 'legal' ways. Yes, to someone living in India my $50K a year is living like a king, but I don't live in India, so I live a modest life. |
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Post by hop2 on Dec 17, 2018 23:28:53 GMT
I don't get these type of comments. I really don't. What do you think should be done about the discrepancy in incomes? Should billionaires write checks to random people to even things out? Is there a cap on how much money someone should make? Who gets to decide that number? What are YOU doing, actively doing, to close the gap between the poorest and the richest? You are aware, aren't you, that you yourself are probably one of the richest people in the world? I read somewhere that in order to be in the top 1% richest people in the world you had to earn something like $35K a year. Are you willing to give up the comforts that your wealth provides in order to make things more fair world-wide? In order to be "fair" are you willing to get rid of electricity, running water, three meals a day? You accept those as norms of life, I assume. But to many, many others around the globe, those are luxuries. How can you expect those far wealthier than you to give up their luxuries if you aren't willing to do the same? Link please $35,000/year for a family of 4 is only $10000 above the federal Poverty level and is considered the working poor, so no where near ‘rich’ In fact you have to earn 10x that to be in the top 1% worldwide muchless the top 1% in the US www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/10/27/how-much-money-you-need-to-have-to-be-part-of-the-1-percent-worldwide.htmlAnd to be in the top 1% in the US you need to earn nearly 1/2 a million a year. The average income of the top 1% is 1.2 million So quit with the vague ‘I read somewhere’ handslaps. The statement you made is ‘bull’oney |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Dec 17, 2018 23:51:25 GMT
I don't get these type of comments. I really don't. What do you think should be done about the discrepancy in incomes? Should billionaires write checks to random people to even things out? Is there a cap on how much money someone should make? Who gets to decide that number? What are YOU doing, actively doing, to close the gap between the poorest and the richest? You are aware, aren't you, that you yourself are probably one of the richest people in the world? I read somewhere that in order to be in the top 1% richest people in the world you had to earn something like $35K a year. Are you willing to give up the comforts that your wealth provides in order to make things more fair world-wide? In order to be "fair" are you willing to get rid of electricity, running water, three meals a day? You accept those as norms of life, I assume. But to many, many others around the globe, those are luxuries. How can you expect those far wealthier than you to give up their luxuries if you aren't willing to do the same? Link please $35,000/year for a family of 4 is only $10000 above the federal Poverty level and is considered the working poor, so no where near ‘rich’ In fact you have to earn 10x that to be in the top 1% worldwide muchless the top 1% in the US www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/10/27/how-much-money-you-need-to-have-to-be-part-of-the-1-percent-worldwide.htmlAnd to be in the top 1% in the US you need to earn nearly 1/2 a million a year. The average income of the top 1% is 1.2 million So quit with the vague ‘I read somewhere’ handslaps. The statement you made is ‘bull’oney You're conflating assets and income. It's $32,400 for INCOME. www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/050615/are-you-top-one-percent-world.asp |
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Post by lucyg on Dec 18, 2018 0:17:13 GMT
It doesn’t matter, either way. We are not competing with starving 3rd world dictatorships. (Not yet, anyway. But give him time.) The question is, are we willing to pay more in taxes if we are among the more “comfortable” financially, in order to provide a society that works for everyone, not just the uber-wealthy, and kind of hit-or-miss among the rest? My answer is yes. My experience has been, Republicans disagree. Unfortunately. We are headed toward a more feudalistic society and I don’t like it. |
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Post by hop2 on Dec 18, 2018 0:27:20 GMT
No, I’m not, the link I linked says you have to make $389,436 income per year to be in the top 1 % of earners worldwide. ( not assets ) and the federal website lists the poverty level figures in annual income not assets. Another pea said that annual income of something like $35k made you top 1% the figure astounded me because it is so close to the annual income of someone considered federal poverty level. So I googled and no where can I come up with an annual income of $35k makes you 1% earner as another pea stated. I’m not conflating income to assets I’m tryung to figure out what she is talking about because the income quoted in her post I can not find. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Dec 18, 2018 0:30:58 GMT
No, I’m not, the link I linked says you have to make $389,436 income per year to be in the top 1 % of earners worldwide. ( not assets ) and the federal website lists the poverty level figures in annual income not assets. Another pea said that annual income of something like $35k made you top 1% the figure astounded me because it is so close to the annual income of someone considered federal poverty level. So I googled and no where can I come up with an annual income of $35k makes you 1% earner as another pea stated. I’m not conflating income to assets I’m tryung to figure out what she is talking about because the income quoted in her post I can not find. Reread your link the 389 was 1% of America Quiote from your link T o be among the top 1 percent of earners in America, you have to pull in $389,436 a year, a 2013 Economic Policy Institute report finds. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Dec 18, 2018 0:34:08 GMT
It doesn’t matter, either way. We are not competing with starving 3rd world dictatorships. (Not yet, anyway. But give him time.) The question is, are we willing to pay more in taxes if we are among the more “comfortable” financially, in order to provide a society that works for everyone, not just the uber-wealthy, and kind of hit-or-miss among the rest? My answer is yes. My experience has been, Republicans disagree. Unfortunately. We are headed toward a more feudalistic society and I don’t like it. Actually that’s your question - the OPs was different and a subsequent poster brought up the US’s relatively higher income - I’m merely correctly a totally and completely false statistic. |
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Post by hop2 on Dec 18, 2018 0:40:40 GMT
No, I’m not, the link I linked says you have to make $389,436 income per year to be in the top 1 % of earners worldwide. ( not assets ) and the federal website lists the poverty level figures in annual income not assets. Another pea said that annual income of something like $35k made you top 1% the figure astounded me because it is so close to the annual income of someone considered federal poverty level. So I googled and no where can I come up with an annual income of $35k makes you 1% earner as another pea stated. I’m not conflating income to assets I’m tryung to figure out what she is talking about because the income quoted in her post I can not find. Reread your link the 389 was 1% of America Quiote from your link T o be among the top 1 percent of earners in America, you have to pull in $389,436 a year, a 2013 Economic Policy Institute report finds. Hmm weird because another link said it was over $400000 to be top %1 in the US www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/07/27/how-much-you-have-to-earn-to-be-in-the-top-1percent-in-every-us-state.htmlWhich is why I asked for a link where the $35K came from. And also why I provided a link where I read my info so you can see where I am right or incorrect rather than throwing around vague numbers. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Dec 18, 2018 0:43:51 GMT
My link shows the statistic for worldwide 1% - and honesty considering the vast portions of the globe living in abject poverty it really shouldn’t really be that surprising that 1% worldwide is closer to $30,000 than $300,000, ETA Your second Iink is a different year - $389,000 vs 421,000 isn’t that big of a difference - either an annual change or different study methodology - - |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2018 2:19:36 GMT
The statistics I raised are that the top 10% of world's wealthiest own 90% of the world's wealth.
The top 1% of the world's wealthiest own 50% of the world's wealth.
That is disgusting, obscene and cannot but continue to lead to misery and despair for too many human beings.
It is time to find a way to move that money out of its engorged concentrations and into the hands of the sick and dying and desperate.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Dec 18, 2018 11:32:06 GMT
I’m currently on my way to Budapest where the people are protesting a new ‘slave law’ that allows employers to require 400 hours of unpaid overtime. That’s 10 weeks of work for us Jos that work regular 9-5s.
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