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Post by gar on Dec 14, 2018 10:14:45 GMT
When she gets fed up of calling him by all three names, which she will at some point, will she then call him S-S-S or Ssssss? I don’t have a problem with the names particularly but it’s one of those things that the more experienced of us will raise an eyebrow and think “she will learn.” Indeed and once a child is at school etc you really can’t control what he’ll be called by his peers so trying to insist she won’t permit it to be shortened is a little silly. She’ll learn, as you say 😉
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Post by cycworker on Dec 14, 2018 10:30:46 GMT
Yeah, names get shortened. It happens. About all you can do is choose a name with a shortened form you like. Or at least don't hate.
That's why my brother never got the first name johnathon or Antony.
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Post by johnnysmom on Dec 14, 2018 11:08:08 GMT
Squire has been a first name for a long time, even though it is more unusual. No big deal to me. In that vein, I don't particularly care if a kid is named Senator... although personally, I think Senator is a hindrance and not a help. And mothers-to-be always have an idealized vision of what life with baby will be like. Sometimes, they even think they'll have a say in what people will call their child.
If this woman is that much of a control freak, though, how did she convince anyone to throw her a baby shower - that she could cancel, no less - to begin with? <signed, a baby-showerless pea> This^^ I was 8 months pregnant when I learned I was carrying a boy. A boy my ex wanted desperately to have his name. I had agreed... I believed it was the right name for our son but...I really couldn’t see myself calling a baby George. It just wasn’t a baby name. I suggested he be named after my ex but called by his middle name. Nope. Not happening. Ex kept saying his name is George Michael Lastname Junior. So I decided he’d be called George Michael. And he was for a few years. Then his big sister started calling him GM. Then he started school where they called him George. Now, at 24, he’s G, GM, George but only very rarely called George Michael. I thought I had a say in the matter...joke was on me! lol I was about to tell the same story. We opted not to carry on the family name but rather name ds Johnathon (vs John and a very unique middle name). I swore up and down I would forever call him Johnathon (I made the mistake of allowing others to call him what they wished, I should have been more strict) as i hated the nickname Johnny. Yeah, that lasted till he could talk and started calling himself Johnny 🙄 it was so damn cute I couldn’t resist and now he’s 17 and is Johnny everywhere. sidenote: Obviously I got over myself, I joined peas when he was 2 or 3, my username has been the same all along.
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Post by leftturnonly on Dec 14, 2018 11:54:24 GMT
Some people shouldn't have the responsibility of naming children. I wonder if she actually knows the meaning/origin of squire. It's a " title" rather than a name, as is Senator. Maybe she's read The Canterbury Tales too often and not understood the meaning of squire or she expects him to become Lord of the Manor one day wherever that Manor will be. Similar to the name Barron in some countries Yeah, it's a title. But it is also used (rarely) as a first name here - possibly because we don't use the title of Squire. I know the Boone family (as in Daniel Boone) has been using Squire as a first name since the late 1700's. We also have the occasional (still rare, though) titles as first names. Major Garrett is a well known reporter, as is Shepard Smith. I don't know the origins of those first names, but it is a practice of very long standing for Americans, especially males, to be given the maiden last name of their mother/grandmother as a first name and sometimes those surnames are also titles. ETA - OK, Shepard isn't exactly considered a title. It's an example of a very unusual first name that is more commonly found as a surname.
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Post by gillyp on Dec 14, 2018 13:00:33 GMT
Some people shouldn't have the responsibility of naming children. I wonder if she actually knows the meaning/origin of squire. It's a " title" rather than a name, as is Senator. Maybe she's read The Canterbury Tales too often and not understood the meaning of squire or she expects him to become Lord of the Manor one day wherever that Manor will be. Similar to the name Barron in some countries Yeah, it's a title. But it is also used (rarely) as a first name here - possibly because we don't use the title of Squire. I know the Boone family (as in Daniel Boone) has been using Squire as a first name since the late 1700's. We also have the occasional (still rare, though) titles as first names. Major Garrett is a well known reporter, as is Shepard Smith. I don't know the origins of those first names, but it is a practice of very long standing for Americans, especially males, to be given the maiden last name of their mother/grandmother as a first name and sometimes those surnames are also titles. ETA - OK, Shepard isn't exactly considered a title. It's an example of a very unusual first name that is more commonly found as a surname. Yes, using a mother’s/grandmother’s surname as a first name for a son was common over here. My great grandfather was called Shirley after his grandmother Henrietta Shirley (Shirley being her surname).
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Dec 14, 2018 13:48:06 GMT
In that vein, I don't particularly care if a kid is named Senator... although personally, I think Senator is a hindrance and not a help. Yes, and what if he were to actually run and get elected? He'd be Senator Senator. Snort. I don't know the origins of those first names, but it is a practice of very long standing for Americans, especially males, to be given the maiden last name of their mother/grandmother as a first name and sometimes those surnames are also titles. In naming my four boys, I used my own maiden name, my mother's maiden name, my grandmother's maiden name, and my ex-MIL's maiden name. (I also have my grandfather's middle name, my ex's grandfather's name, my father's middle name, and my great uncle's name thrown in there for good measure.) Because so many of their first names could pass for last names as well, when we would call all their names out together my ex-MIL used to snarkily comment, "You don't have a family. You have a law firm."
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Post by mandolyn9909 on Dec 14, 2018 14:01:35 GMT
When she gets fed up of calling him by all three names, which she will at some point, will she then call him S-S-S or Ssssss? I don’t have a problem with the names particularly but it’s one of those things that the more experienced of us will raise an eyebrow and think “she will learn.” Indeed and once a child is at school etc you really can’t control what he’ll be called by his peers so trying to insist she won’t permit it to be shortened is a little silly. She’ll learn, as you say 😉 I was going to say the same thing. As soon as he hits school his friends will start calling him senator squirrel, or seabass (I had a friend sebastian as a kid that was shorted to seabass and still goes by seabass)....the possibilities are endless with a name like Squire Sebastian Senator
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Post by mandolyn9909 on Dec 14, 2018 14:04:17 GMT
In that vein, I don't particularly care if a kid is named Senator... although personally, I think Senator is a hindrance and not a help. Yes, and what if he were to actually run and get elected? He'd be Senator Senator. Snort. I don't know the origins of those first names, but it is a practice of very long standing for Americans, especially males, to be given the maiden last name of their mother/grandmother as a first name and sometimes those surnames are also titles. In naming my four boys, I used my own maiden name, my mother's maiden name, my grandmother's maiden name, and my ex-MIL's maiden name. (I also have my grandfather's middle name, my ex's grandfather's name, my father's middle name, and my great uncle's name thrown in there for good measure.) Because so many of their first names could pass for last names as well, when we would call all their names out together my ex-MIL used to snarkily comment, "You don't have a family. You have a law firm." I like using maiden names in naming as well. My youngest has the middle name Leeder which is my grandmothers maiden name. My DH wanted it to be his first name but I went with something more traditional.
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Post by jenjie on Dec 14, 2018 14:12:19 GMT
In that vein, I don't particularly care if a kid is named Senator... although personally, I think Senator is a hindrance and not a help. Yes, and what if he were to actually run and get elected? He'd be Senator Senator. Snort. I don't know the origins of those first names, but it is a practice of very long standing for Americans, especially males, to be given the maiden last name of their mother/grandmother as a first name and sometimes those surnames are also titles. In naming my four boys, I used my own maiden name, my mother's maiden name, my grandmother's maiden name, and my ex-MIL's maiden name. (I also have my grandfather's middle name, my ex's grandfather's name, my father's middle name, and my great uncle's name thrown in there for good measure.) Because so many of their first names could pass for last names as well, when we would call all their names out together my ex-MIL used to snarkily comment, "You don't have a family. You have a law firm." Is it ok that I laughed?
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Dec 14, 2018 14:31:09 GMT
Absolutely! It makes me laugh, too.
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Post by gloryjoy on Dec 14, 2018 14:55:38 GMT
We have a sportscaster on a local news station called Squire Barnes, I've never really thought any thing of it. But that is all it is, just Squire.
My husband worked with his mom, and she wasn't weird or anything, lol.
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Post by gillyp on Dec 14, 2018 14:57:27 GMT
In a similar vein I have a distant relative in the mists of time whose first name was North, being his mother’s family surname. IIRC mother’s Brother died childless and left his estate to his nephew North, providing he changed his surname to the uncle’s family name . . North. Thereafter the chap was known as North North.
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Post by craftedbys on Dec 14, 2018 15:27:43 GMT
Quite a few assassins and serial killers are called by three names.
Maybe she is getting a head start on publicity?
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Post by leftturnonly on Dec 14, 2018 15:32:49 GMT
"You don't have a family. You have a law firm." Thank you for starting my day off with a good laugh!
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Post by utmr on Dec 14, 2018 16:13:18 GMT
There is no benefit to saddling a child with a crazy name that will draw ridicule, that the child will have to spend their life spelling and explaining. There's a reason John and Mary and Thomas and Katherine have been in the top names for hundreds of years.
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Post by leftturnonly on Dec 14, 2018 16:22:42 GMT
There is no benefit to saddling a child with a crazy name that will draw ridicule, that the child will have to spend their life spelling and explaining. There's a reason John and Mary and Thomas and Katherine have been in the top names for hundreds of years. So, no? I should not give my kids new, more interesting names for Christmas then? Sigh. There goes my big surprise.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 16:36:56 GMT
There is no benefit to saddling a child with a crazy name that will draw ridicule, that the child will have to spend their life spelling and explaining. There's a reason John and Mary and Thomas and Katherine have been in the top names for hundreds of years. Not necessarily. The kid could change their name. Mine did. It's ok though. Cuz I love my kid more than I love their name.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Dec 14, 2018 16:38:49 GMT
she writes "I never knew my family could be so judgmental" as she is TOTALLY judging all of them for their conduct. SMDH.
And if she thought about it for at least 10 seconds, she would see they're ridiculing HER for the choice of name, not ridiculing her CHILD.
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Post by utmr on Dec 14, 2018 17:07:26 GMT
]So, no? I should not give my kids new, more interesting names for Christmas then? Sigh. There goes my big surprise. I love this idea! Merry Christmas, your name is now Cre8ive. And your sister is now Jessica because I found a monogrammed backpack on the clearance rack.
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Post by bethany102399 on Dec 14, 2018 18:33:20 GMT
So I decided he’d be called George Michael. And he was for a few years. Then his big sister started calling him GM. Then he started school where they called him George. Now, at 24, he’s G, GM, George but only very rarely called George Michael. I thought I had a say in the matter...joke was on me! it took the daycare workers about 3 weeks to shorten Callan to Cal, and at soon to be 10 he goes by Callan or Cal. Occasionally Cally Cal but I suspect that's going to get filed under moooooom don't call me that very soon. He's still my Callan, but yeah I had no say in them shortening it.
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Post by bethany102399 on Dec 14, 2018 18:34:18 GMT
And your sister is now Jessica because I found a monogrammed backpack on the clearance rack. I just spit coffee. I could totally do this to my DD. She says my natural habitat is the clearance isle.
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Post by AngieJoy on Dec 14, 2018 19:11:51 GMT
There is no benefit to saddling a child with a crazy name that will draw ridicule, that the child will have to spend their life spelling and explaining. There's a reason John and Mary and Thomas and Katherine have been in the top names for hundreds of years. So, no? I should not give my kids new, more interesting names for Christmas then? Sigh. There goes my big surprise. This is why I come here 😂😂😂😂
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Post by bc2ca on Dec 14, 2018 19:40:49 GMT
We have a sportscaster on a local news station called Squire Barnes, I've never really thought any thing of it. But that is all it is, just Squire. My husband worked with his mom, and she wasn't weird or anything, lol. Thank you - I was thinking Squire wasn't unusual and realized when I saw your post it is because of Squire Barnes (who I haven't watched for almost 20 years). And FTR, a third name is rarely used IRL, so if this unborn child is every elected to the Senate, he will be Senator Squire Lastname despite mom's efforts to have everyone call him Senator Squire Sebastion Senator Lastname.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Dec 14, 2018 20:23:29 GMT
This kind of crap is exactly why I fought tooth and nail when I was pregnant with DD to name her Jane. Ex won a more trendy name, but nothing weird or creatively spelled. Jane is her middle name.
And DS? In 17 years, he's never met another kid with his classic name. I did win that fight.
I have 5 kids from 18-8 and no one knows a Scott. We just discussed this at dinner a few weeks ago. So if you really want to be original...choose Scott.
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Post by moodyblue on Dec 15, 2018 0:05:51 GMT
This kind of crap is exactly why I fought tooth and nail when I was pregnant with DD to name her Jane. Ex won a more trendy name, but nothing weird or creatively spelled. Jane is her middle name. And DS? In 17 years, he's never met another kid with his classic name. I did win that fight. I have 5 kids from 18-8 and no one knows a Scott. We just discussed this at dinner a few weeks ago. So if you really want to be original...choose Scott. Haha! My brother's name is Scott. And I know a few others, but then we are older than you and it was more poplular when I was young. I have had several students named Scott over my forty years in teaching, though.
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Post by Merge on Dec 15, 2018 0:20:07 GMT
There is no benefit to saddling a child with a crazy name that will draw ridicule, that the child will have to spend their life spelling and explaining. There's a reason John and Mary and Thomas and Katherine have been in the top names for hundreds of years. And then you give your beloved younger daughter the classic, time-honored name of Margaret, planning to call her Maggie as it fits with your family's Scots-Irish heritage, and the older one re-christens her "Gart." And thus she is called ever after. 😂
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Post by Merge on Dec 15, 2018 0:21:37 GMT
This kind of crap is exactly why I fought tooth and nail when I was pregnant with DD to name her Jane. Ex won a more trendy name, but nothing weird or creatively spelled. Jane is her middle name. And DS? In 17 years, he's never met another kid with his classic name. I did win that fight. I have 5 kids from 18-8 and no one knows a Scott. We just discussed this at dinner a few weeks ago. So if you really want to be original...choose Scott. My brother's name is Scott. But he's in his mid 40s.
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Post by hop2 on Dec 15, 2018 0:30:16 GMT
Squire has been a first name for a long time, even though it is more unusual. No big deal to me. In that vein, I don't particularly care if a kid is named Senator... although personally, I think Senator is a hindrance and not a help. And mothers-to-be always have an idealized vision of what life with baby will be like. Sometimes, they even think they'll have a say in what people will call their child. If this woman is that much of a control freak, though, how did she convince anyone to throw her a baby shower - that she could cancel, no less - to begin with? <signed, a baby-showerless pea> Yeah we specifically did not choose a certain middle name for DS as my mother would have called him his initials just to piss off my ex. I mean I was disappointed he couldn’t have my grandfathers nane for a middle name but has ex’s grandfathers nane for a middle but my mother definitely would have driven me INSANE.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Dec 15, 2018 0:32:45 GMT
This kind of crap is exactly why I fought tooth and nail when I was pregnant with DD to name her Jane. Ex won a more trendy name, but nothing weird or creatively spelled. Jane is her middle name. And DS? In 17 years, he's never met another kid with his classic name. I did win that fight. I have 5 kids from 18-8 and no one knows a Scott. We just discussed this at dinner a few weeks ago. So if you really want to be original...choose Scott. Haha! My brother's name is Scott. And I know a few others, but then we are older than you and it was more poplular when I was young. I have had several students named Scott over my forty years in teaching, though. I am 43 and I have a good friend named Scott. I'm just saying my kids reaction was like Scott? No one names their kid Scott. It was quite funny. My stepdaughters are expecting a new baby brother and the name that is under consideration is Colton.
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Post by hop2 on Dec 15, 2018 0:33:47 GMT
When she gets fed up of calling him by all three names, which she will at some point, will she then call him S-S-S or Ssssss? I don’t have a problem with the names particularly but it’s one of those things that the more experienced of us will raise an eyebrow and think “she will learn.” Is this how you get the nickname ‘squiggy’?
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