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Post by librarylady on Dec 15, 2018 4:05:40 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 6:32:47 GMT
I was so upset when the govenor of California shot down what many voters wanted. So much data shows teens need more sleep and later start times.
I love late start Tuesday because dd starts school at 8:36 instead of 7:30!!!
She is more alert, happier, less stressed...
Jr high here starts at 8:45. Elementary between 7:50 and 8:20.
If jr highs start so late, why cant high schools???
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Post by M in Carolina on Dec 15, 2018 6:46:16 GMT
It always drove my mom nuts that I slept in and didn’t go to bed early. I just never could get sleepy before 11pm. My dad was the same way.
I’m glad that schools are pushing start times back. Way too many kids have to get up super early to get on the bus.
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Post by snyder on Dec 15, 2018 8:27:30 GMT
I was so upset when the govenor of California shot down what many voters wanted. So much data shows teens need more sleep and later start times. I love late start Tuesday because dd starts school at 8:36 instead of 7:30!!! She is more alert, happier, less stressed... Jr high here starts at 8:45. Elementary between 7:50 and 8:20. If jr highs start so late, why cant high schools??? The reason our districts say they can't let all grades have later start times is the number of buses needed. They use most of the buses for 2 grades, in that they drop off the high-schoolers and then go pick up the grade-schoolers because the start times are staggered.
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Post by Merge on Dec 15, 2018 10:40:01 GMT
It's partly a bussing issue here (each bus runs a high school and then an elementary or middle school route) and partly an issue for sports and kids who need to work after school. My kids' high school runs 7:30-3:30. If it ran until 4:30, sports practices and rehearsals would start and finish very late.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Dec 15, 2018 11:06:23 GMT
I wish my teen could start later. First period is 7:35 am.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 11:20:28 GMT
We are very big "sleep is important" people. Thankfully we are all morning people too! My girls never pulled an all-nighter in college. They were always alseep by 10 pm. Even my daughter currently in med school goes to sleep by 10 pm. She wakes up at 5 am to study more instead of staying up. I think kids need to find what works for them--for some it's staying up and sleeping in; some not. I know that's super difficult though when the schools make them get up to go to school so early. I believe it is a bus issue here too but not sure as we have never been part of the school district here.
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Post by monklady123 on Dec 15, 2018 11:50:31 GMT
Thankfully my school district moved to this years ago (although your article is new the whole concept of later school starts for teens isn't new) -- we also have the bus issue, which I'm sure affects all school districts since I'm not sure any district is wealthy enough to have dedicated buses for each level..? -- Anyway, they flipped around ours and they put middle school earliest at around 7:30, then elementary at around 8:00 (some start a bit later), then high school at 8:40-ish. I still had to pry my son out of bed but at least it wasn't pitch dark outside.
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Post by peabay on Dec 15, 2018 12:54:08 GMT
It would cost my district 2+ million dollars to make the change. Not happening here any time soon.
I believe the science; I'd love to see my 16 year old sleep later in the morning - but she's in bed by 10 every night and up at 6:15. She gets 8 hours every night.
This was an extremely contentious and divisive issue in our town but we simply can't afford it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 13:09:10 GMT
Thankfully my school district moved to this years ago (although your article is new the whole concept of later school starts for teens isn't new) -- we also have the bus issue, which I'm sure affects all school districts since I'm not sure any district is wealthy enough to have dedicated buses for each level..? -- Anyway, they flipped around ours and they put middle school earliest at around 7:30, then elementary at around 8:00 (some start a bit later), then high school at 8:40-ish. I still had to pry my son out of bed but at least it wasn't pitch dark outside. I agree about it hard to move when it is pitch dark. Not only that, it is dangerous!! I saw a couple high school kids nearly hit by a car when they, walking like zombies, staggered right in front of a moving car one morning in the dark.
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Post by sweetpeasmom on Dec 15, 2018 13:32:23 GMT
DD 14 has said this many times. She said studies have shown that teen brains aren't fully functioning until later in the morning. Our high school is 8:00-3:10. School sports go until around 6-6:30. I do understand that argument (as well as those that have jobs).
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Post by peano on Dec 15, 2018 13:50:17 GMT
Our town did this in time for DS's senior year, and while it was a bus cluster$uck for a while until some of the logistical problems were ironed out, we and he saw the benefits, especially since he is a night owl like me.
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Post by librarylady on Dec 15, 2018 14:23:28 GMT
I wish my teen could start later. First period is 7:35 am. My DS's HS did that --his first class was at 7:30.
As others mentioned, the bus schedules to fit elem and MS were given as the reason. I still think it could all be adjusted, but no one wants the headache.
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Post by Julie W on Dec 15, 2018 14:34:32 GMT
This is very real for DD12's school district. They've been debating this for years and the board made the decision earlier this year to push back Middle School and High School start times for most of our schools. Most of the non-magnet MS and HS go 7:30-2 and the most of the elementary schools start at 9 or later. They decided to have MS and HS go 8:30-3 and adjust the ES times earlier. The reason and also the challenge, like another poster cited is bussing. In order to push back the MS and HS and not pay a lot more for bussing, the ES has to start earlier. Most of the EM school parents are not happy about this - understandably they don't want their younger kids out waiting for the bus often in the dark and extreme MN cold. However others are supportive as a lot of people start work before school starts right now, so they pay for before care. It has been a heated discussion. And even though it's been decided for almost six months, it keeps coming up. I saw the article that the OP referenced in a lengthy Nextdoor post for our neighborhood after the district sent out a recap email for the year and reminded everyone of next year's start time changes.
So next year DD will be in 8th and for that and high school she will go 8:30-3. And she trains at her circus arts school most evenings, the extra hour will be appreciated, however she'll have one less hour after school to get homework done. We will see how it goes!
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Post by quinlove on Dec 15, 2018 14:39:49 GMT
Ha ! This reminds me of when my ds was in high school and had put this note on his bedroom door. It was a weekend day. I MUST be up at 2 tomorrow ! - - 2 in the afternoon !! We all still laugh about that.
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Post by kelly8875 on Dec 15, 2018 15:02:23 GMT
Our high school starts classes at 9:00. They made the switch to that back when my kids were in elementary school. K-4, and 9-10 (our elementary and high school grades) start at 9, and use the same bussing routes. The 5-9 grades start at 8:00 and use the same bussing routes. It was mainly done this way for the bussing, but also to give the youngest and the oldest more time in the mornings.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 15:06:45 GMT
Yep. We allocate money to tax cuts to make sure billionaires keep more of their billions. But not to let millions of teens get the rest their brains need by paying for more buses, bus storage, drivers, etc.
Priorities people.
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Post by maryland on Dec 15, 2018 15:46:47 GMT
In our school district, they changed the time this year. So we used to be 7:30am-2:30pm. We live 30 min. away so our bus came at 6:30am. This year they start at 8:15 and get out at 2:39. The kids love it because their day is shorter than before! But several years ago they added 6 days to the school year, so they are still getting their hours in.
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Post by utmr on Dec 15, 2018 15:51:59 GMT
DS school pushed back to. 8:30 start this year, for bussing reasons as Merge mentioned. It’s a huge disaster.
Last year I dropped him off at 6:45 am for 7:20 start and was at my desk by 7:15. Now I drop him off at 7:10 for 8:30 start and do well to fight traffic and be at work by 8:15.
It’s a bad situation all around. I’m late to work and have to fight traffic both ways (since I get to work late I have to stay late) and hundreds of kids are milling about the school in the morning, looking for mischief to get into.
In a perfect world, I would be independently wealthy, wouldn’t have to work, and could take my fragile snowflake to school late, after 10 hours of sleep and a carefully balanced organic breakfast.
But most of us aren’t in a perfect world. So we all get up and grab a pop tart on the way out the door and hope for the best.
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Post by maryland on Dec 15, 2018 15:52:25 GMT
We are very big "sleep is important" people. Thankfully we are all morning people too! My girls never pulled an all-nighter in college. They were always alseep by 10 pm. Even my daughter currently in med school goes to sleep by 10 pm. She wakes up at 5 am to study more instead of staying up. I think kids need to find what works for them--for some it's staying up and sleeping in; some not. I know that's super difficult though when the schools make them get up to go to school so early. I believe it is a bus issue here too but not sure as we have never been part of the school district here. I was never able to stay up all night and study either! I would sometimes stay up until midnight to study, but if I didn't get enough sleep, I knew would fail the test. I made sure I spread my studying out because I knew I couldn't stay up late. It helped me to remember info for the final by studying a little each day. My friends that stayed up all night and tried to learn it all at once would forget the material in a couple weeks.
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