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Post by Katie on Jan 27, 2019 17:08:45 GMT
Just watched, and I was happy with it. They kinda tied into a neat little bow so I am not in agony waiting for answers in the next season. I did hear that they changed a few significant things from the book, but as a non-book reader I liked it. Cried my eyes out over young Ian; man that was brutal.
I did not understand why the Mohawk would go crazy and kill each other like that...it seemed a bit extreme, but whatever. I was irritated that it took Roger so long to decide to go to Brianna, but the clip after the show with the writers and producers kinda explained it in a way that made me more ok with it. Plus, it made for a good reunion...I totally cried like a baby as she was running across the lawn.
Do we even know if they are filming season 5 yet? I’m sure it will be another year before it airs.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Jan 27, 2019 17:36:48 GMT
I thought the finale was good. Though overall I disliked this season.
Some of it just doesn't make sense. Ian was a little too excited and his acceptance a little too easy.
the minute they handed Jamie the Note I knew what it would say... even though I know it wasn't in the books.. it was a little too predictable.
Im not sure how much longer the show will hold my interest!
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Post by finaledition on Jan 27, 2019 18:14:19 GMT
Going to watch right now-so marking my spot. Katie - yes I think they are in the middle of season 5. (I don't know about filming, but their podcasts have the producers mentioning that they are in the middle of season 5-so whether that planning, writing, filming...they have not specifically stated in what I've listened to). I did see this quote from a Sony programming exec, " "I can tell you there are early talks on us doing that, to absolutely not have an extended Droughtlander like we've had before. That's the goal." But define extended~lol. 1 month is a stretch for me.  |
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Post by finaledition on Jan 27, 2019 19:47:00 GMT
I thought it was a great episode, I was totally immersed the entire 60+ minutes. I'm not sure the last scene would have been my choice as the season finale ender, it seemed more like an episode ender. I also found the exchange between Ian and Roger very emotional. Part of that is because Ian is much more beloved in the book than the screen time he's been given would indicate, but I thought that was the best part of the episode. I'm not sure what the direction and immersion of a dead book character is doing for the storyline. This is one of those instances of be careful of what you wish for because this small change is rippling with some big changes to the story. They did leave a lot out of the end, but I can see many of these storylines being picked up in season 5. I think season 4 had to set the setting and culture for future stories so given the 13 episode constraint, I have no doubt that they will catch up next season. One little thought I had-when roger returned to Bree and they kissed-how long do you think it’s been since he brushed his teeth. Lol. Random, but that thought kind of took away the impact of their embrace. I still think the opening music to this season is my least favorite rendition. I suppose I need to get over that because I doubt it will be changing next season (unless they add a fife). Just for fun  ~ rank your seasons in order of most likely to rewatch1. season 1 (duh!, sorry, but nothing will ever top this) 4. season 4 (surprise for me as if I were ranking the books, this would definitely not be #2) 3. season 3 4. season 2 (these last 2 are kind of a tie as there are episodes in each that I love and episodes in each that I would skip during a rewatch) |
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Post by caro on Jan 27, 2019 20:47:14 GMT
I follow a lot of fans on Twitter and most are book readers first. There is a huge uproar over season 4 and particularly the finale. Most are mad it very loosely followed the book. Most wanted more Jamie and Claire and their intimate dialog, not necessarily sex just pillow talk. I am a show watcher first, books came after season 1. If I were a casual watcher then yes it was great. As a book reader first, I would be very upset.
Filming for season 5 has not started yet.
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jan 28, 2019 2:37:31 GMT
Spoil me, please. Do we see Young Ian again? I hope so, we were really enjoying him. Maybe Fergus should go live with the Mohawk instead, he bothered me this season.
Loved Aunt Jo and Murtagh.
I think Ian was excited to join the Mohawk. He's a young guy looking for adventure, and this is the ultimate adventure. I totally had a Last of the Mohicans flashback with that "trading me for him" scene.
Can someone explain Roger's late arrival for me? Other than dramatic purposes, of course, was there a legitimate reason?
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Post by finaledition on Jan 28, 2019 2:50:27 GMT
Roger’s late arrival was the time he needed to take to decide if he could be a father to the baby knowing it may not be his. But given Roger’s reflective nature, I believe he needed to come to terms with the guilt he feels about Bree being raped by Bonnet and his role that evening and regroup from his own traumas he has suffered for the past year. I believe in the book it was about 1 month before he showed up. They made a much bigger deal in the books about whether he would show up by the 1 year and a day in order to be married.
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Post by annaintx on Jan 28, 2019 2:55:20 GMT
Spoil me, please. Do we see Young Ian again? I hope so, we were really enjoying him. Maybe Fergus should go live with the Mohawk instead, he bothered me this season. Loved Aunt Jo and Murtagh. I think Ian was excited to join the Mohawk. He's a young guy looking for adventure, and this is the ultimate adventure. I totally had a Last of the Mohicans flashback with that "trading me for him" scene. Can someone explain Roger's late arrival for me? Other than dramatic purposes, of course, was there a legitimate reason? I am a book reader first, have not watched tonight's episode. I've been sort of "meh" for this season. Yes, we see Ian again. |
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Jan 28, 2019 3:00:54 GMT
Great episode!! I knew as soon as Ian stepped aside to talk to the Mohawks he was volunteering himself. I think he likes the Natives and it was a way for him to find his place in the New World. I truly hope it’s not the last we see him.
I can’t believe it took so damn long for Roger to show up at River Run. I really didn’t think he was the type to abandon her, but we they showed up without him he definitely got cussed out in my living room.
Murtagh and Auntie Jacosta!! Daaaaaym!! 🔥🔥🔥
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Post by jackietex on Jan 28, 2019 3:18:48 GMT
There were parts of it that I really loved, and other parts that irritated me. I loved when Ian said his farewells to Claire and Jamie, John Bell and Sam Heughan were so so so good. Rik Rankin has done an excellent job this season, but IMO the writers did not make him as likable as in the books and it bothers me. I thought that the Jocasta/Murtagh story line was fun, but I also liked her love interest in the books. I do not like the Regulator story line, it's just more filler that takes away from Jamie/Claire and life on Fraser's Ridge.
Season re-watch order:
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jan 28, 2019 3:37:37 GMT
Roger’s late arrival was the time he needed to take to decide if he could be a father to the baby knowing it may not be his. But given Roger’s reflective nature, I believe he needed to come to terms with the guilt he feels about Bree being raped by Bonnet and his role that evening and regroup from his own traumas he has suffered for the past year. I believe in the book it was about 1 month before he showed up. They made a much bigger deal in the books about whether he would show up by the 1 year and a day in order to be married. So couldn't Claire have said, Roger needed some time to figure things out, and not make it look like he had already decided not to come back to her? |
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Post by finaledition on Jan 28, 2019 3:39:28 GMT
Roger’s late arrival was the time he needed to take to decide if he could be a father to the baby knowing it may not be his. But given Roger’s reflective nature, I believe he needed to come to terms with the guilt he feels about Bree being raped by Bonnet and his role that evening and regroup from his own traumas he has suffered for the past year. I believe in the book it was about 1 month before he showed up. They made a much bigger deal in the books about whether he would show up by the 1 year and a day in order to be married. So couldn't Claire have said, Roger needed some time to figure things out, and not make it look like he had already decided not to come back to her? She could have. She also could have been more excited meeting her first grandchild. That particular scene was not executed well at all. |
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jan 28, 2019 3:43:35 GMT
So couldn't Claire have said, Roger needed some time to figure things out, and not make it look like he had already decided not to come back to her? She could have. She also could have been more excited meeting her first grandchild. That particular scene was not executed well at all. She was thinking "well I'm a grandma now, there goes all the hot sex". |
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Post by momx1 on Jan 28, 2019 5:33:55 GMT
There were parts of it that I really loved, and other parts that irritated me. I loved when Ian said his farewells to Claire and Jamie, John Bell and Sam Heughan were so so so good. Rik Rankin has done an excellent job this season, but IMO the writers did not make him as likable as in the books and it bothers me. I thought that the Jocasta/Murtagh story line was fun, but I also liked her love interest in the books. Season re-watch order: 1 4 3 2 Totally agree. I don’t mind some story changes but I don’t feel like they’ve made me love show Roger, and I love book Roger!! Except, he has that one iriritating habit in the book that kept getting him into trouble!! |
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Post by lesserknownpea on Jan 28, 2019 11:01:54 GMT
It’s hard for me to see changes from the books.
Yes, the Ian Jamie farewell was very moving and well done. And true, Ian really did want the adventure, as well as feel guilty about his part in Roger’s mistreatment.
I wanted to be Jocasta so bad and hop into bed with Murtagh!!! That gorgeous silver hair, that toned and tanned chest. . .
The whole season just felt rushed, and part of what made this book so good were all the sweet, quiet moments between Jamie and Claire, and they got lost in the need to further the plots, and keep the drama high.
And I’m sorry. That reunion scene was just too cliche for me. Running toward each other with swelling music?? Really?
And DIA ended with the family attending a Gathering of the Clans, and Roger announcing that “the Mackenzies are here!”, I loved it.
But overall, great acting, ( although toward the end, it sounded like Sam Heughen had a terrible cold). Some moving scenes. And I hope they hurry with the next season.
ETA:
My seasons in order:
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Jan 28, 2019 12:10:52 GMT
On IMDB it shows the next season starting this year, not specific dates yet. So maybe we will have another fall premier like this past season.
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Post by Katie on Jan 28, 2019 17:04:04 GMT
My episodes in order:
1, 2, 4, 3
I mostly just rank 2 as high as I did because of the costumes, but I also loved the scenes with the king of France. And also Louise was fun to watch.
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jan 29, 2019 1:27:04 GMT
My episodes in order: 1, 2, 4, 3 I mostly just rank 2 as high as I did because of the costumes, but I also loved the scenes with the king of France. And also Louise was fun to watch. It's funny how people like different things. I didn't like season 2 at all. It just dragged on and on, and most of the new characters were so unpleasant. |
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Post by jackietex on Jan 29, 2019 2:05:01 GMT
My episodes in order: 1, 2, 4, 3 I mostly just rank 2 as high as I did because of the costumes, but I also loved the scenes with the king of France. And also Louise was fun to watch. It's funny how people like different things. I didn't like season 2 at all. It just dragged on and on, and most of the new characters were so unpleasant. It dragged and it was too sad for me, I've only watched it once. |
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Post by jillonthehill on Jan 29, 2019 3:11:35 GMT
Rik Rankin has done an excellent job this season, but IMO the writers did not make him as likable as in the books and it bothers me. Does it bother anyone else how Roger was treated in both the tv and book version of Drums of Autumn? He comes to the Ridge to find Brianna and thanks to a case of mistaken identity gets his ass kicked and is sold to the Iroquois. When he is finally rescued he must decide if he wants to stay with Brianna who is pregnant with a child that may or may not be his. And oh yeah, he can't go back to the 1960s like heplanned because a baby can't travel through the stones. In the book Jamie expects Roger to decide that very second as to what he wants to do. When he hesitates, Jamie and Claire immediately leave him and expect him to find his way back to the Ridge on his own. Maybe Roger didn't show up immediately at Brianna's side because he was born in the 1940s and can't navigate the wilderness between New York and North Carolina without, at the very least, a map! I know the book gives a little more detail as to why Roger wasn't there right away, but seriously. Cut the man some slack. |
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Post by lesserknownpea on Jan 29, 2019 9:07:21 GMT
Rik Rankin has done an excellent job this season, but IMO the writers did not make him as likable as in the books and it bothers me. Does it bother anyone else how Roger was treated in both the tv and book version of Drums of Autumn? He comes to the Ridge to find Brianna and thanks to a case of mistaken identity gets his ass kicked and is sold to the Iroquois. When he is finally rescued he must decide if he wants to stay with Brianna who is pregnant with a child that may or may not be his. And oh yeah, he can't go back to the 1960s like heplanned because a baby can't travel through the stones. In the book Jamie expects Roger to decide that very second as to what he wants to do. When he hesitates, Jamie and Claire immediately leave him and expect him to find his way back to the Ridge on his own. Maybe Roger didn't show up immediately at Brianna's side because he was born in the 1940s and can't navigate the wilderness between New York and North Carolina without, at the very least, a map! I know the book gives a little more detail as to why Roger wasn't there right away, but seriously. Cut the man some slack. Yes yes yes. And don’t even get me started on events in the future. I could never handle how mean Diana was to Roger! |
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Post by AngieJoy on Feb 4, 2019 20:27:08 GMT
When Brianna ran up to him, my dd and I agreed....we wanted her to hit him sooooo bad. 😂😂
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