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Post by alittleintrepid on Sept 30, 2014 23:01:16 GMT
Do you think the insanity defence will work?
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Post by Anna*Banana on Oct 1, 2014 0:58:12 GMT
I've never heard of this case. ::off to google it:: ETA: Sorry I googled that...  Insane or not, I hope he is never out in society ever again. |
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Post by mom23sweetpeas on Oct 1, 2014 2:26:46 GMT
he has to be clearly insane to do what he did but i hope they keep him locked up for life! He now admits to the murder- i think if he hadn't be found he would be the next paul bernardo
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Post by theshyone on Oct 1, 2014 3:59:42 GMT
If the crazy dude that beheaded the guy on the Greyhound bus is already out, this guy will walk. Canada's justice system is screwed up. Yet the duck lady causing an accident goes to jail.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2014 4:04:20 GMT
If the crazy dude that beheaded the guy on the Greyhound bus is already out, this guy will walk. I don't see anything about Vince Li being released. Do you have a link? |
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Post by theshyone on Oct 1, 2014 4:15:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2014 4:17:30 GMT
Well, that's not the same thing as being released. |
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Post by theshyone on Oct 1, 2014 4:19:08 GMT
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Post by grinningcat on Oct 1, 2014 11:48:38 GMT
Day passses are definitely not the same as being released from custody... so I found your comment overly sensational. I know from personal experience on a murder trial that the Canadian justice system is NOT screwed up. Not at all.
As for Magnotta, he's admitted to the murder, now it's a question of how sane he was. And I think he was pretty sane, or at least sane enough to plan and plot everything he did.
Unfortunately, there is a crisis in the EMS world. He is not the only one to take his/her life because of the things seen on the job. It's currently quite scary how many are taking their lives right now. Imagine how many are not being reported for every one that is. And that's so sad to think about.
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Post by theshyone on Oct 1, 2014 15:47:11 GMT
You have your views I have mine.
I never said he was released that was someone else's term. I said he was out. And he Is. He is out in the community. Nothing sensationalist about that. It's a fact.
I totally agree there is a crisis in the EMS world.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2014 15:55:43 GMT
Insane and responsible. throw away the key.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Oct 1, 2014 16:09:55 GMT
Personally, I think that they are going to have a hard time arguing NCR.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2014 16:13:00 GMT
I never said he was released that was someone else's term. I said he was out. And he Is. He is out in the community. Nothing sensationalist about that. It's a fact. "He's out" is the same thing as saying released. Don't be silly. |
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Post by Anna*Banana on Oct 1, 2014 18:17:35 GMT
I never said he was released that was someone else's term. I said he was out. And he Is. He is out in the community. Nothing sensationalist about that. It's a fact. "He's out" is the same thing as saying released. Don't be silly. It's kind of silly to quibble over words when I believe her point was that he has access to the general public, without supervision. And that is absolutely true. He is able to move about as any other citizen. That is scary given his crime. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2014 18:20:14 GMT
"He's out" is the same thing as saying released. Don't be silly. It's kind of silly to quibble over words when I believe her point was that he has access to the general public, without supervision. And that is absolutely true. He is able to move about as any other citizen. That is scary given his crime. I don't think I'm comfortable with him having free day passes. But he isn't released -- or "out". That's my point. He's still being accounted for and being forced to take his medicine. He isn't completely free. I don't understand WHY the system has allowed this -- what are the advantages? |
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Post by Anna*Banana on Oct 1, 2014 18:30:09 GMT
It's kind of silly to quibble over words when I believe her point was that he has access to the general public, without supervision. And that is absolutely true. He is able to move about as any other citizen. That is scary given his crime. I don't think I'm comfortable with him having free day passes. But he isn't released -- or "out". That's my point. He's still being accounted for and being forced to take his medicine. He isn't completely free. I don't understand WHY the system has allowed this -- what are the advantages? I guess I'm confused Ashley. Since the details, the important one(s), that he his access to the public, unsupervised, I'm not sure why you were hammering her about your interpretation of the words used. And are you sure he is "forced" to take his medicine? Having worked in a psychiatric hospital, unless the meds were given IV, it really was impossible to guarantee the meds were taken. We sometimes found clients used elaborate schemes and methods to not take their psychiatric medicines. And they were successful in their shenanigans. I guess I'm |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2014 18:37:19 GMT
We're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one, Anna.  |
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Post by Dalai Mama on Oct 1, 2014 18:50:27 GMT
Vince Li was found NCR. If his condition weren't re-evaluated and liberties granted based on his response to therapies then what would the point of NCR be?
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Oct 1, 2014 18:59:29 GMT
A mentally insane person commits a heinous crime is incarcerated in a mental health facility (instead of prison) and gets day passes. That is really f*cked up.
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Post by alittleintrepid on Oct 2, 2014 1:07:03 GMT
Luka Magnotta's reminds me of Jeffrrey Dahlmer....I think the shtick on Saturday Night Live was " what sane person eats people?" It's frightening to think he could be living in the community with the likes of Karla Homolka (just to provide another example of the screwed up Canadian legal system.
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Insane or not, I hope he is never out in society ever again.
