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Post by librarylady on Jan 30, 2019 22:03:48 GMT
Speaking with my brother today and he feels the whole point of Mueller's investigation is to overturn the election results.
I disagree.
I think it is to determine if any outsider influenced election, and if so, who? Also, to see if any crimes were committed by the candidate or his/her staff.
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on Jan 30, 2019 22:06:45 GMT
Is that even possible? I agree with your assessment.
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Post by papersilly on Jan 30, 2019 22:30:48 GMT
i don't think the election results will be overturned. however, i think a higher level of integrity and decency has to be restored to our election process. i think, in order to do that, we have to flesh out any wrongdoing that was done and hold people responsible for their actions. election results with a big fat asterisk next should not become the norm for us. we should not have to question the integrity of the election because people in the past have found a way to game the system. i think we need to guard against foreign interference. find and plug the holes. if Mueller's investigation helps to accomplish any of this, then it was all worth it.
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Post by trollie on Jan 30, 2019 22:31:48 GMT
To see if crimes were committed. lock 'em up!@@
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Post by pilcas on Jan 30, 2019 22:35:49 GMT
I agree with you, I can’t imagine what would have to be done to reverse the election results. We do need to protect our country against election tampering. People need to be held responsible for any wrongdoing. If we can’t trust our election results or if they are tampered with our democracy becomes a sham,
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Post by dewryce on Jan 30, 2019 23:21:06 GMT
Here is the letter appointing Mueller and what he is authorized to investigate, and you are correct. I don’t understand how they would overthrow the election results? How would they reverse everything that has transpired? Reverse the elections, the laws, the executive orders? I mean, if he has some idea how that could happen that’d be great and I’ll start a go fund me right now 
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Post by Just T on Jan 30, 2019 23:32:32 GMT
I don't think the election will be overturned. I don't know how that would even work. Honestly, as much as I do not like Trump, I do hope that the investigation has not uncovered anything criminal that he himself did because the state we are in right now, I can't imagine what will happen to us and our nation if we end up finding out he did indeed do something criminal and ends up being impeached. If that happens, I don't see him stepping down the way Nixon did, and I think it will take our country a good long time to recover. I think it likely will anyway.
But, that all said, if it does truly and without zero doubt uncover election tampering/fixing or whatever, then we will have to find a way to fix it to ensure it doesn't happen again. Like others have said, if we can't even trust in our election process, we are screwed. Big time.
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Post by dewryce on Jan 30, 2019 23:41:44 GMT
I don't think the election will be overturned. I don't know how that would even work. Honestly, as much as I do not like Trump, I do hope that the investigation has not uncovered anything criminal that he himself did because the state we are in right now, I can't imagine what will happen to us and our nation if we end up finding out he did indeed do something criminal and ends up being impeached. If that happens, I don't see him stepping down the way Nixon did, and I think it will take our country a good long time to recover. I think it likely will anyway.
But, that all said, if it does truly and without zero doubt uncover election tampering/fixing or whatever, then we will have to find a way to fix it to ensure it doesn't happen again. Like others have said, if we can't even trust in our election process, we are screwed. Big time.
This was already determined to have happened, and a report published by all 3 ICs in January 2017. Which is one of the many reasons this is all so infuriating. Especially when, having read this report, Trump then continued to deny and doubt that it happened. And when he said things like ‘Putin said they didn’t interfere and I believe him.’ Over our own country’s Intelligence. So, we know they interfered, this investigation was started to determine if anyone from the campaigns were involved and if so, to bring charges against them. |
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Post by sabrinae on Jan 30, 2019 23:49:24 GMT
To discover to what extent and who tampered with the 2016 election. There isn’t any mechanism - constitutional or statutory- to overturn the election. If the investigation undercovers sufficient evidence the mechanism available is impeachment and subsequent trial to remove Trump from office. If that happens the Constitutional succession order is followed. So the Vice President becomes President. If Pence is also implicated to the level of impeachment, the order is succession continues. There is NOT any mechanism to “overturn” an election
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Post by SockMonkey on Jan 31, 2019 0:18:19 GMT
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Post by Merge on Jan 31, 2019 0:23:34 GMT
Your brother must be friends with my brother. |
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Post by katybee on Jan 31, 2019 3:37:48 GMT
Wait....no “witch hunt” option?
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Post by Restless Spirit on Jan 31, 2019 3:44:06 GMT
Wait....no “witch hunt” option? LOL. That was my immediate thought, too! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 4:32:37 GMT
Remove Russian-turned/Russian-compromised assets from positions of power in the US government.
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