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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 21:51:13 GMT
Today is #FreeInHijab day - created by people trying to say women are free to wear Hijab and celebrating that choice.
Many many other women (on twitter,youtube, etc) have countered w/#FreeFromHijab day - with stories of the shaming and violence that belies the "women are free to wear hijab - it is not forced".
Here is a summary I watched.
I don't think people can be free IN hijab while so many millions are NOT free to choose because they are forced by society and family to put on an article of clothing they do not choose to wear voluntarily.
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Post by jess on Feb 1, 2019 22:01:12 GMT
There are definitely women who choose to wear the hijab. I have a friend who does. Both her husband and her father would intensely prefer she didn't because it draws so much hatred. Some other women in her family do wear it, others don't. But she feels that it is an important part of her faith. Much like a Jewish man wearing a yarmulke.
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Post by Zee on Feb 1, 2019 22:17:46 GMT
I'm not comfortable passing judgment on a woman who chooses to wear a hajib. I don't think you can condemn their free choice solely because there are women in the world who cannot choose.
Honestly I sometimes wish I could wear one as well. I'm sick and tired of doing my hair.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 22:31:21 GMT
To repeat and be clear, the #FreeFromHijab people aren't saying women shouldn't be able to choose. They are saying that too many women AREN'T able to choose and until those millions of women ARE able to choose, it's a little early to declare hijab a symbol of freedom.
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Post by rickmer on Feb 1, 2019 22:53:23 GMT
but isn't saying women shouldn't wear them taking away THEIR choice? not trying to be argumentative, just feel that everyone SHOULD have the choice and i know many women who do choose to wear them.
i have a friend that does.... her daughter had the choice and chose to.... several years later she changed her mind. her parents love her regardless and supported both her choices.
so the theory is no one should wear them until everyone doesn't have to?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 23:10:26 GMT
I think that unless you are willing to give up all of your rights until *everyone* can have them (marriage, hijab, cannabis, whatever) you really can't pick and choose which freedoms you are going to support. In other words, if you don't think women who are free not to wear hijab but do should do that because not all women are free, then you also shouldn't support getting married until everyone who wants to marry is allowed to.
Edited: I didn't make it very clear. If the #FreeFromHijab supporters are enjoying ANY freedoms that other people do not have, then they are being hypocritical.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 0:01:37 GMT
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Post by Merge on Feb 2, 2019 1:01:26 GMT
Attacks like that don't happen in this country, though (at least not that I know of).
Should Muslim women also forgo driving or walking around without a male relative in the US because women in other countries cannot do so?
On a funny note, my Muslim co-worker often said that the only reason she wore hijab in the Houston heat was because it was easier than dealing with her curls in the humidity.
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Post by jenjie on Feb 2, 2019 1:12:57 GMT
I think this is where the confusion is coming from: To repeat and be clear, the #FreeFromHijab people are saying women shouldn't be able to choose. Did you mean this the way it sounds? |
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Post by Linda on Feb 2, 2019 2:12:14 GMT
I think women should be able to choose TO wear the hijab and to choose NOT to wear the hijab. I don't think that because some women don't get to choose, that other women should be restricted from choosing.
and as a non-muslim - it's really NOT my business whether a woman wears a hijab or not.
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Post by annabella on Feb 2, 2019 2:40:13 GMT
I don't go around telling any woman they shouldn't wear a hijab, but I do think to myself its sad they live in a free country yet continue to wear this sign of women's oppression. While they may say they are not forced to wear it, they are part of a community where all their family and friends wear it so its just ingrained in them. The Hijab is the last part of the burqa and burqa and hijabs are forced on them in certain countries where there are women fighting for the freedom to not have to wear it. So to see these other women in western countries who have a choice still wear it to me is just so sad. They are saying the hijab should not be seen as a symbol of freedom when this kind of attack repeatedly happens to women who choose not to.... I feel the hijab movement twists things around to suit their agenda. If you live in Iran, you have to follow rules or not make waves because it's dangerous changing things in that country. The debate is over women in western countries who still wear an item used for oppression in other countries. You can't compare it to wearing a hat on one bad hair day, it's covering your hair every single day of the year. I don't have any hatred towards the Muslim religion, my thoughts come as a woman wishing another woman didn't carry with her female shackles from another country to a place where it isn't required. Again I don't say anything to anyone I see wearing it, but I have very strong feelings when I see it. Especially in my city where there are black american muslims born and raised in this county who have their women wearing full face covering burqas. I'm glad that countries like Denmark and France take a stand against it. It's not discrimination, it's freedom for women. Here's a great quote that expresses how I feel: pbs.twimg.com/media/DyWQZwqWkAEVxY1.jpg |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 2:48:07 GMT
I think this is where the confusion is coming from: To repeat and be clear, the #FreeFromHijab people are saying women shouldn't be able to choose. Did you mean this the way it sounds? Thanks. Missed the key word 'NOT'. Added it to the post. But I already said it correctly in two other spots on this thread.  |
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Post by refugeepea on Feb 2, 2019 5:31:38 GMT
As someone who used to wear "sacred" garments, I don't have a high opinion of this practice. Especially when it's just the women who are affected. At least when I was a practicing Mormon, the men had to wear the same things. I realize based on my history my opinion is probably messed up. It's hard for me to believe it's a choice.
==>Still uncomfortable wearing sleeveless shirts or tank tops
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Post by mikklynn on Feb 2, 2019 13:46:02 GMT
I think women should be able to choose TO wear the hijab and to choose NOT to wear the hijab. I don't think that because some women don't get to choose, that other women should be restricted from choosing. and as a non-muslim - it's really NOT my business whether a woman wears a hijab or not. You said exactly what I think. |
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Post by katybee on Feb 2, 2019 14:36:00 GMT
I absolutely believe that women should be able to wear whatever they want—including hijabs.
But I can still have my opinion that, at the very least, the hijab’s origins are that of subjugation and oppression and it’s is still a form of subjugation and oppression for millions of women around the world.
Would we still have the same opinion about burkas?
FTR—I have issues with many religious practices/beliefs that subjugate women—and most of them are Christian.
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