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Post by workingclassdog on Feb 21, 2019 14:26:22 GMT
So my DD and her friends (who flew through Denver) are going to Vegas. The flight from Denver to Vegas was cancelled last night at 12:30pm due to snow in Vegas (what they were told). The friends connection was through Denver so they all met and were going to fly out.
Now 'back in the day' when I worked for the airlines, we would try to put up as many stranded passengers as possible at hotels and then rebook on almost any airline to get them to their destination. I understand that is probably not the norm anymore but Frontier didn't do nothing for them at all. If it wasn't for them meeting my DD there they would have no where to go. According to DD/Friends they couldn't even be rebooked out today.
What would you expect if anything for this? So far, they paid extra for luggage, only a partial refund on the tickets and not sure about hotel that situation. They couldn't get a hold of anyone at the hotel yesterday so if they are a no show, I am assuming they may lose their money?
So far the only thing Frontier is doing is a partial refund. Maybe that is all their entitled too.. My thoughts are that Frontier should get them to their destination as soon as possible or back to home. Or vouchers for new flights another time and get them home?? I think they are just going to stay here in Denver and make that their vacation although they may lose all their hotel money in Vegas. Now I know this is weather problems, not like a broken plane so maybe that changes up things?
Maybe today, you just lose out? I fly but I haven't had any problems so I don't know what airlines really do anymore.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Feb 21, 2019 14:29:28 GMT
Maybe today, you just lose out? I think nowadays yes, you lose out... it's not the airline's fault they couldn't fly, it was due to the weather. And isn't Frontier a sort-of *budget* airline, anyway? They probably have a LOT of fine print in their ticket contract language for just such an occasion.
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Post by dudleypippen on Feb 21, 2019 14:33:38 GMT
Frontier is terrible. I had an awful customer service experience with them a couple of years ago and vowed to never voluntarily fly with them again. They were able to rebook me for a flight the next day and told me that I was “lucky” that they had even tried. I went to the Southwest counter in tears with two small children in tow and was on a SW flight a couple hours later. Never again.
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Post by workingclassdog on Feb 21, 2019 14:36:44 GMT
I won't fly Frontier either.. I have heard way too many horror stories so when she said they were on Frontier I thought.. "good luck with that!" From what they told me that the agents were rude and not even trying to help.
So yeah, I guess they should expect nothing..
I can remember when Frontier was one of the best and I LOVED flying with them, but once they started having problems and then all the stupid charges I never flew with them.. Southwest remains my favorite right now..
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Post by hippypea on Feb 21, 2019 14:37:45 GMT
Having recently spent the night overnight in BWI, I think it's almost the norm these days.
We were trying to get home from vacation in Destin & PCB over the summer and we made it to BWI. We were already running late because the crew was running late making their connection, I guess. Once the crew arrived and got on the plane, it wasn't long after and they cancelled our flight, it was almost midnight. They claimed it was due to the weather in Norfolk, but of course everyone we knew in Norfolk said, "What weather?!" This was on SouthWest, they left us stranded there with nothing, all of the food places were closed EXCEPT the martini bar. My DH was happy but I don't drink martinis and we had our teenage DD with us. They did make us some sandwiches at the bar, that was really nice because the airline took about two hours to drag out a case of warm bottles of water and some pretzels ... people were camped out where ever they could find a cozy nook - some just sprawled out on the floor. You couldn't leave the airport and come back, there wasn't really enough time by then to find a hotel, settle in for a couple of hours and get back for the 6:30 flight. Total misery. I sat in a rocking chair all night, next to an outlet to keep my phone charged.
Our situation was a little different in that we didn't pay for the flights, we used points, and the points got refunded, but nothing on top of that. Flying is not what it used to be, that is for sure.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Feb 21, 2019 14:42:51 GMT
Flying is not what it used to be, that is for sure. that's for sure! We typically fly Southwest because DH used to fly SW for his job, and got points... and we've also flown a budget airline a couple times. We flew first-class ONCE, to/from Hawaii. Compared to that, pretty much all other airline experiences felt like being crammed onto a bus that just happened to have wings...
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Post by Belle on Feb 21, 2019 14:49:28 GMT
I think Frontier is notorious for bad or no service.
I also think this is why people use trip insurance. Not sure I would spend extra money on trip insurance for a Vegas trip though.... We get our trip insurance for free thru our credit card. Any chance she has a benefit like that?
I am sorry this happened to her.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 14:58:39 GMT
It's my understanding the class of your ticket on the airline determines if they offer vouchers -OR- if the issue is airline related (e.g. mechanical or technical) are the only times the airline will consider offering hotel vouchers. Most airlines will rebook to the destination if there are weather delays. I'm glad your girl is making lemonade out of lemons by vacationing in Denver. I hope she keeps this lesson in mind the next time she flies and does not use Frontier. The longer people keep paying for this kind of low level of service the longer Frontier will keep flying and making this type of customer treatment acceptable.
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Post by twinks on Feb 21, 2019 15:12:54 GMT
Frontier is the worst ever! Co-workers got stuck in Denver and ended up renting a vehicle and driving all night back for work. Frontier gave them nothing on the cancelled flight. Didn't try to re-book them, hotel, nothing.
I know that Las Vegas area is getting hit with snow. The problem is it could only be an inch or two but they aren't equip for it.
This happened twice to my DD and I when we were flying Southwest. First time we were stuck in Baltimore late at night. We stood in line to be rebooked and I got on my phone and had us rebooked the next morning before we got to the front of the line. We were given hotel recommendations at a reduced rate. Some people opted to stay the night at the airport. It was just better for us to get a hotel. They gave us the cost of our one way ticket in a Southwest voucher.
The next time it happened, we weren't able to take off due to mechanical issues. There was weather in the Northeast and many flights were cancelled. We were told they would rebook us in alphabetical order according to destination city. So we calmly sat down. We were going to Boston after all and that is quite at the front of the alphabet. However,they were doing it via boarding order. I never worry about checking us in early due to my DD needing pre-boarding. We were something like B39. Anyway, I got frustrated and noticed they were sending people to another gate agent to help rebook. So I left my DD at that gate and went and stood at the other gate. By the time they got to us, we couldn't get out until the next morning with a 5 hour layover in Denver. They did give us a $200 voucher for Southwest. Since we were at our home city, I had the nerve to ask for my luggage. They were shocked! I made them get my luggage off the plane and we went home. I tried calling and came up with the same problem. I had to call and change our hotel and our rental car and change the dates.
From my experiences, I have learned to call your hotel. Most hotels are nice when things are out of your control - like a weather cancellation. But you need to do that ASAP. Also, the most you can expect from the airline is a travel voucher most likely in the amount of the one-way fare. This is customer service, even though we used the flight. I doubt that Frontier would do that. Also, I learned to ask for a hotel that offers a reduced rate for stranded passengers.
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Post by mustlovecats on Feb 21, 2019 15:13:55 GMT
My experience is that airlines endorsing your ticket into another carrier is rare nowadays. Used to be they would do it pretty willingly when flights got cancelled but I think it costs them a lot of money so they don’t do it anymore, plus the reciprocity agreements went away some years ago and discount carriers like Frontier didn’t have reciprocity anyway.
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Post by iowgirl on Feb 21, 2019 15:15:36 GMT
It's going to be a great learning experience for them. This seems to be the norm in flying now, and if they learn how to deal with it and get everything rebooked, etc - it will serve them well down the road.
As a Mom, I always want to 'take care of business' for them, but I realized I need to let them deal with it themselves now. But it sure isn't fun to get that call! LOL
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Feb 21, 2019 15:35:45 GMT
The only time I've been offered hotel vouchers for missed/cancelled flights was when I was in Business or First Class. In economy, it rarely happens. On an ultra low cost carrier (such as Frontier) it never happens. Your DD will gain a lot of travel experience from this. My thoughts are that Frontier should get them to their destination as soon as possible or back to home. Good luck with that on Frontier! Family members were stranded by Frontier in Denver a couple of years ago. After 3 days, there was still no sign of them be rerouted by Frontier. They ended up having to buy tickets out of pocket on another airline to get home and back to work.
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Post by workingclassdog on Feb 21, 2019 15:39:11 GMT
I think Frontier is notorious for bad or no service. I also think this is why people use trip insurance. Not sure I would spend extra money on trip insurance for a Vegas trip though.... We get our trip insurance for free thru our credit card. Any chance she has a benefit like that? I am sorry this happened to her. I doubt it.. but I will run it by her..
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Post by workingclassdog on Feb 21, 2019 15:40:35 GMT
It's going to be a great learning experience for them. This seems to be the norm in flying now, and if they learn how to deal with it and get everything rebooked, etc - it will serve them well down the road. As a Mom, I always want to 'take care of business' for them, but I realized I need to let them deal with it themselves now. But it sure isn't fun to get that call! LOL Oh as her mom, she is dealing with it on her own.. All I did was open the door for them and get them set up on the couches! LOL... I don't even know how they got back home. She knew I had to go to work EARLY..
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Post by mikklynn on Feb 21, 2019 15:42:59 GMT
Start posting on social media, including Frontier's Facebook page. It can't hurt!
Also, have they called the 800#? Call Us: 801-401-9000 *Say "feedback and concerns"
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Post by StephDRebel on Feb 21, 2019 16:23:40 GMT
If you fly frontier you need to have a back up plan. They are known for leaving people stranded.
They left a ton of people on New York with no option for another flight for TEN days last year two days before Christmas. It cost my friend 2500 extra when it was said and done. They need to be shut down if they cant get it together and be a safe and effective company.
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Post by Belle on Feb 21, 2019 16:28:21 GMT
I think Frontier is notorious for bad or no service. I also think this is why people use trip insurance. Not sure I would spend extra money on trip insurance for a Vegas trip though.... We get our trip insurance for free thru our credit card. Any chance she has a benefit like that? I am sorry this happened to her. I doubt it.. but I will run it by her.. Fingers crossed that she might have coverage. I agree with the others that said this is a good learning opportunity for her. But still sorry that she isn’t getting the trio she had planned.:-(
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 21, 2019 17:12:06 GMT
The days of hotels and rebooking on another airline are long gone on most airlines, unless you're flying one of the major airlines on a full fare ticket, those do still have reciprocity. But a bargain budget Frontier ticket - yeah, not going to happen. I would expect them to reroute back home as I'm sure the possibility of getting to Vegas in a timely manner is impossible, but they are going to need to be prepared for a long wait. Unfortunately that's the downside of flying what used to be a great airline, but one that now is bottom of the barrel. How quickly they can find a empty seat back home is going to be determined by how popular the route and how many people were impacted. Unfortunately with another storm coming in, I wish them luck.
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Post by workingclassdog on Feb 21, 2019 17:22:57 GMT
Well I think their return tickets put them through Denver again, so if they stay here in Denver instead of trying to make it to Vegas they can just use that portion of the ticket to get home and they are out the Vegas leg. Now my DD's ticket should be refunded since she never got to go, I would think or a voucher, especially since there was no flights available. Oh well.. I am sure this will be the last time she thinks of flying Frontier. (She is usually a Southwest fan so not sure why they didn't book through them.. but that's their deal).. I totally REFUSE to fly with them.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 21, 2019 17:26:01 GMT
Well I think their return tickets put them through Denver again, so if they stay here in Denver instead of trying to make it to Vegas they can just use that portion of the ticket to get home and they are out the Vegas leg. Now my DD's ticket should be refunded since she never got to go, I would think or a voucher, especially since there was no flights available. Oh well.. I am sure this will be the last time she thinks of flying Frontier. (She is usually a Southwest fan so not sure why they didn't book through them.. but that's their deal).. I totally REFUSE to fly with them. Their stated policy is that if the flight is cancelled for weather they will refund the unused portion - so your daughter should fill out the form. faq.flyfrontier.com/help/what-should-i-do-if-frontier-cancels-my-flight
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Post by sunshinestate on Feb 21, 2019 17:38:27 GMT
They couldn't get a hold of anyone at the hotel yesterday so if they are a no show, I am assuming they may lose their money? Why couldn't they reach anyone at the hotel?
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Post by likescarrots on Feb 21, 2019 17:47:18 GMT
Weather related cancellations are not compensated by airlines. I usually fly aa and Delta, and this is their policy they will try to get you on another flight but if there is snow at the arrival airport it's unlikely they will be able to find one. We fly out of a small regional airport and my husband will often have to drive from the bigger airport home because weather has cancelled the regional flight. He's a high mileage member but they don't compensate him at all. He pays for the rental himself.
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Post by melodyesch on Feb 21, 2019 17:50:02 GMT
Well I think their return tickets put them through Denver again, so if they stay here in Denver instead of trying to make it to Vegas they can just use that portion of the ticket to get home and they are out the Vegas leg. Now my DD's ticket should be refunded since she never got to go, I would think or a voucher, especially since there was no flights available. Oh well.. I am sure this will be the last time she thinks of flying Frontier. (She is usually a Southwest fan so not sure why they didn't book through them.. but that's their deal).. I totally REFUSE to fly with them. They cannot do that unless the ticket is changed ahead of time. If they don’t board the return flight in Las Vegas the ticket will be cancelled and they will NOT be able to board in Denver. So they HAVE to make sure Fronteir changes the departure city to Denver.
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Post by stampnscrap1128 on Feb 21, 2019 19:33:49 GMT
The only time I've been offered hotel vouchers for missed/cancelled flights was when I was in Business or First Class. In economy, it rarely happens. On an ultra low cost carrier (such as Frontier) it never happens. Your DD will gain a lot of travel experience from this. I found even First Class doesn't get a break. I was offered nothing by United when something similar happened to me about 5 years ago. I won't fly United (or Frontier) ever.
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Post by Basket1lady on Feb 21, 2019 20:48:17 GMT
I have no advice, but just generally wanted to gripe about flying. It's such a hassle and is hardly worth it. The amount of stress that goes into packing light, watching liquids like a hawk, long TSA lines, why are we not pre-check when I added the numbers to the itinerary, being bumped because the flight has been oversold... and that doesn't even get us ONTO the airplane. The claustrophobic conditions that we fly in now just about put me over the edge. I'll be glad when DH retires and I only need to fly once or twice a year to go on vacation (vs going to see family.)
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Post by verdepea on Feb 21, 2019 20:59:53 GMT
I think they are screwed. The bottom line is so tight these days that hardly any companies will absorb the extra costs when they have no control over the situation. They still have to pay operating costs whether or not the flight flies at all or late. Especially a discount airline. That is what travel insurance is for.
Many moons ago, I missed my flight from LAX to IAH on Southwest. This fight had a few legs on it. The agents immediately re-booked me on a direct flight home. They were so nice and just did it.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Feb 21, 2019 21:44:33 GMT
Well I think their return tickets put them through Denver again, vso if they stay here in Denver instead of trying to make it to Vegas they can just use that portion of the ticket to get home and they are out the Vegas leg. Now my DD's ticket should be refunded since she never got to go, I would think or a voucher, especially since there was no flights available. Oh well.. I am sure this will be the last time she thinks of flying Frontier. (She is usually a Southwest fan so not sure why they didn't book through them.. but that's their deal).. I totally REFUSE to fly with them. They cannot do that unless the ticket is changed ahead of time. If they don’t board the return flight in Las Vegas the ticket will be cancelled and they will NOT be able to board in Denver. So they HAVE to make sure Fronteir changes the departure city to Denver. workingclassdog - you need to make sure they know to change their return flight with Frontier, otherwise their entire return ticket will be cancelled when they don't make that LAS>DEN flight. Airlines are really clamping down on this, in part due to the "hidden city" itineraries. I found even First Class doesn't get a break. I was offered nothing by United when something similar happened to me about 5 years ago. I won't fly United (or Frontier) ever. Being in Houston you don't have much choice if you want direct flights so I do fly United. Haven't really had any major problems with them though it was much better when it was Continental. Other than avoiding all ultra-low cost carriers and Southwest (not a fan of their boarding and no reserved seats), I will fly any of the major airlines. At the end of the day, flying on any of them can be a pretty miserable experience with the cramped seats, fees for everything and crowds in the airports and planes.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Feb 21, 2019 23:52:38 GMT
I just got back from two days in Myrtle Beach visiting my mama who's down there for the whole month with friends. One was supposed to fly from Myrtle Beach to Stewart International in NY yesterday via American Airlines. That flight was cancelled due to weather and rescheduled for Friday. There was no mention of any consideration or reimbursement.
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Post by likescarrots on Feb 22, 2019 1:02:11 GMT
I found even First Class doesn't get a break. I was offered nothing by United when something similar happened to me about 5 years ago. I won't fly United (or Frontier) ever. Being in Houston you don't have much choice if you want direct flights so I do fly United. Haven't really had any major problems with them though it was much better when it was Continental. Other than avoiding all ultra-low cost carriers and Southwest (not a fan of their boarding and no reserved seats), I will fly any of the major airlines. At the end of the day, flying on any of them can be a pretty miserable experience with the cramped seats, fees for everything and crowds in the airports and planes. For the most part, I will also fly any of the major airlines. We fly AA mostly because it's our local carrier. I will say that AA has put us up in a hotel when the plane we were getting on had a mechanical issue and we ended up missing our connecting flight. But for weather related issues or issues that aren't in their control, it's very unlikely.
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Post by gritzi on Feb 22, 2019 1:16:44 GMT
My guess is the terms clearly stated the airline would not be responsible for weather. I think most would no longer offer hotels, discounts, etc for delays or cancellations due to inclement weather.
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