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Post by monklady123 on Feb 22, 2019 11:23:43 GMT
I'm sorry but spending my 20 yr wedding anniversary with my 4 kids and dealing with all of that sounds like a nightmarish time. No thanks. I would find someone to take the kids. Split them up with friends? or drop them off with family. I left out the part where we are supposed to get a hotel room with a kitchenette so we can cook our own food and don't have to eat out... Great. Ask him what all he plans to cook in this kitchenette.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 12:46:15 GMT
I don't see the problem with flying with these kids. You can check in from your phone. You drop off baggage, which takes only a few minutes. Your kids are big. You are not carrying any of them and you're well out of the stroller age. What is the big deal? They stand on their own feet. Baggage does not always 'get lost'. After dropping off your bags you spend some time at the airport, comfortably fly over and be on your merry way. If you don't like to fly, that's one thing, but now you're just creating problems that are not there
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Post by kibblesandbits on Feb 22, 2019 12:58:44 GMT
I'm sorry but spending my 20 yr wedding anniversary with my 4 kids and dealing with all of that sounds like a nightmarish time. No thanks. I would find someone to take the kids. Split them up with friends? or drop them off with family. I left out the part where we are supposed to get a hotel room with a kitchenette so we can cook our own food and don't have to eat out... late to the party, but HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! *draws breath* BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Tell your husband to fly a kite. Good lord.
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Post by peabrain on Feb 22, 2019 13:02:39 GMT
I think he and the kids will have a fantastic time! Ask him to send you a postcard.
At this point you not going will be the vacation lol!
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Post by mustlovecats on Feb 22, 2019 13:31:32 GMT
I'm sorry but spending my 20 yr wedding anniversary with my 4 kids and dealing with all of that sounds like a nightmarish time. No thanks. I would find someone to take the kids. Split them up with friends? or drop them off with family. I left out the part where we are supposed to get a hotel room with a kitchenette so we can cook our own food and don't have to eat out... Lol when we do that there is no “we” cooking our own food. It’s all me. I don’t do this anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 13:35:05 GMT
I'm sorry but spending my 20 yr wedding anniversary with my 4 kids and dealing with all of that sounds like a nightmarish time. No thanks. I would find someone to take the kids. Split them up with friends? or drop them off with family. I agree 100%...especially to Vegas.
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Post by melodyesch on Feb 22, 2019 13:53:40 GMT
Does not sound fun. Why the heck are you going to Vegas in the summer with kids?If it’s just 3-4 days with 4 kids I’d fly to a resort and just hang out. What about Florida? Or San Diego? Because it's a 'dry heat', and DH has lost his mind... I’m from Alabama, where the humidity can take your breath away. There IS something to be said for “dry heat” in high temperatures not feeling as hot. But I was in Vegas once in July and it was 117 degrees. It just makes you feel like a laser is focused at your head trying to boil your brain. Dry heat or no, it’s just too fucking hot in Vegas in the summer to do anything fun outdoors. Even walking from hotel to hotel is miserable. And in my opinion, driving more than a couple of hours for only 3-4 days makes no sense. If you won’t fly then I say do something nice at home and start planning a big trip for you and DH for your 25th. Either way, you both need to be on the same page.
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Post by Gennifer on Feb 22, 2019 14:14:14 GMT
I feel particularly qualified to respond to this post. I have four kids, we celebrated our 20th three days ago (and I just booked our getaway), and I grew up in Vegas.
HELL NO.
For real. Dry heat may be slightly better than humid heat, but it’s still effing hot. Vegas isn’t super kid-friendly. Take the extra thousand you’re paying for airfare, plus the extra hundreds you’d be paying to do shows for 6 at Vegas prices, and use it to pay for a sitter and splurge on yourselves.
You’ve been married for twenty years. That’s an accomplishment. You’re raising four kids. That’s difficult. Take some time to celebrate your relationship, ALONE.
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Post by paigepea on Feb 22, 2019 14:20:48 GMT
Neither option sounds great to me with kids.
Dh and I fly to Vegas once a year without kids. My friend just went on a girls trip to an all inclusive in Mexico (Peurto Vallarta) for 4 nights. All in with flight, hotel, food and drinks it cost the same per person as when we go to Vegas for 3 nights. And Mexico was an extra night. I’m just saying id rather be at an all inclusive for 4 nights with family than cooking in Vegas. Go lay on a beach and do nothing.
I hate eating out a lot. I can agree to fixing breakfast in my room in many locations, but beyond that no because it isn’t a vacation. The only place we really shop and cook is in Hawaii because it’s so expensive or at the lake because you’ live’ there in a little cabin. Better food choices but more work. In Vegas for a short period I’d take the kids out. Even subway or chipotle is better than cooking. And we’ve ordered both subway and chipotle to our pool in Vegas.
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Post by stampinfraulein on Feb 22, 2019 14:28:39 GMT
What you're describing is not a vacation. It's simply mom-ing in a different location. I have 3 kids and when I have to take them somewhere and manage them and cook for them and clean up after them, that's exactly what it is--it's a work trip. NOT a vacation.
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Post by ellen on Feb 22, 2019 14:46:13 GMT
I'd suggest you price out what it would cost to fly and stay on the Gulf coast of Florida for a few days. It's off season and it will be cheaper to rent a place. Yes, it will be hot. Get in the pool or the ocean to cool off - it costs nothing to hang out by the pool or the ocean. The beach and pool are things everyone in your family would enjoy. We would get a place with a kitchen and it really wasn't a big deal to make a stop at a grocery store to pick up things for breakfast and lunch - we kept it really simple. My kids and husband helped with meals. We'd also find that we were ready for a bit of an inside break at lunch time, so going in to make a couple pizzas or a few sandwiches was not a big deal. We'd go out for dinner at night. When my oldest daughter was about your oldest kids age, we would get take out for one dinner for them and my husband I would go out to a nice restaurant. I think by the time you pay for accommodations, food, and entertainment for six in Las Vegas you could have a much nicer trip somewhere else for less money.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Feb 22, 2019 15:12:23 GMT
To me, driving is more stressful. I like to get where I am going and enjoy as much time there as possible. I hate sitting in the car and staring at the road for hours on end.
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Post by 950nancy on Feb 22, 2019 15:14:44 GMT
Because it's a 'dry heat', and DH has lost his mind... Oh, hell to the no ---Vegas and kids = Circus Circus hotel....and a crowded HOT holiday. I was there in the summer and it was so hot my roommate almost passed out. I hate the heat and we have spent quite a few vacations in Vegas in July. Thankfully the pools at many of the hotels are awesome and most of the entertainment is inside. It's a dry heat.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 15:21:58 GMT
I don't get how people don't have ANYONE in their lives they don't trust to take their kids for a few nights? That's really sad!? Friends? co-workers, family? nothing?!! Even if you would have to drive them to family/friend, and then spend a wk away. I think its good for couples and also kids. Yes, everyone will still be ok if you don't do it, but it's still good for everyone. When my girls were little we had a standing sunday night babysitter. It was great. We also went away for long wkends, and we had my bachelor brother!! (he didn't kill them, and they didn't kill him! ha), my parents, my dh's Mom, my dh's sister take them. They had a great time doing things they never did with us, and we got a wkend to relax!! and eat without being interrupted, and all that comes with kids. We live where we have no family, and the 2 times that we left our son with family they fed him ice cream. He was only 2 and 4 months old. candleangie ....her kids might be interested in watching yours.
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Post by mustlovecats on Feb 22, 2019 15:29:15 GMT
I don't get how people don't have ANYONE in their lives they don't trust to take their kids for a few nights? That's really sad!? Friends? co-workers, family? nothing?!! Even if you would have to drive them to family/friend, and then spend a wk away. I think its good for couples and also kids. Yes, everyone will still be ok if you don't do it, but it's still good for everyone. When my girls were little we had a standing sunday night babysitter. It was great. We also went away for long wkends, and we had my bachelor brother!! (he didn't kill them, and they didn't kill him! ha), my parents, my dh's Mom, my dh's sister take them. They had a great time doing things they never did with us, and we got a wkend to relax!! and eat without being interrupted, and all that comes with kids. In a pinch I have someone my kids could stay with... but it feels like a pretty big deal to ask someone to take on my brood. I had to last summer when we had a very serious illness in the family and I needed to be in hospital for several days but that was a significant situation and it wasn’t super easy for anyone. Asking someone to take them for a few days so I could go on vacation is a little much for me, instead last year we arranged a weeklong sleepaway summer camp and took a couples getaway then, asking local friends to be our emergency backup if something went wrong at camp. It didn’t coincide with our anniversary but that is acceptable to me because it felt like a good enough arrangement.
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Post by Susie_Homemaker on Feb 22, 2019 15:37:51 GMT
I left out the part where we are supposed to get a hotel room with a kitchenette so we can cook our own food and don't have to eat out... Aww heck no! There would be no cooking on a vacation or I'll just stay home. And for 6 people?! Nope! It's not just cooking, it's planning the meals, locating a grocery and buying and hauling all of it to wherever you're staying, prepping the food, cooking, then cleaning up and putting everything away. That's just doing your everyday life in a different location.
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Post by mikklynn on Feb 22, 2019 15:58:54 GMT
I'm sorry but spending my 20 yr wedding anniversary with my 4 kids and dealing with all of that sounds like a nightmarish time. No thanks. I would find someone to take the kids. Split them up with friends? or drop them off with family. I left out the part where we are supposed to get a hotel room with a kitchenette so we can cook our own food and don't have to eat out... Is that "we" going to be you? If so, that is a big fat NO.
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Post by mikklynn on Feb 22, 2019 16:00:47 GMT
Also, I have been to Vegas in June and it was FUCKING HOT. Dry heat does not matter when it's over 100 degrees.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 22, 2019 17:12:32 GMT
I have to vote with your hubby here. 3-4 days vacation and driving 10 hours in each direction. It's just too much time out of what is already a limited time. And 4 kids bored for 10 hours straight in each direction. That would be stressful. But the thing is, with having to get to the airport early, waiting in line for TSA, waiting in line for boarding, flying, waiting for your luggage at baggage claim, waiting for either a rental car or shuttle or taxi once you have everything together at your destination— you end up spending ten hours anyway. And that’s if you have a non-stop, if you have layovers anywhere it adds even more time. Plus flying is more stressful and it’s expensive and it sucks. I would say about 75% of the time, I would much rather drive if the time commitment ends up even remotely close to the same.
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Post by 950nancy on Feb 22, 2019 17:34:04 GMT
I have to vote with your hubby here. 3-4 days vacation and driving 10 hours in each direction. It's just too much time out of what is already a limited time. And 4 kids bored for 10 hours straight in each direction. That would be stressful. But the thing is, with having to get to the airport early, waiting in line for TSA, waiting in line for boarding, flying, waiting for your luggage at baggage claim, waiting for either a rental car or shuttle or taxi once you have everything together at your destination— you end up spending ten hours anyway. And that’s if you have a non-stop, if you have layovers anywhere it adds even more time. Plus flying is more stressful and it’s expensive and it sucks. I would say about 75% of the time, I would much rather drive if the time commitment ends up even remotely close to the same. I guess that would depend on your airport. I can leave my house 75 minutes before my flight, get luggage through, get through TSA and wait 45 minutes for my flight. The flight is about 90 minutes and getting my luggage in Vegas is always quick. It takes longer to walk to the luggage carousel. Uber has me at my hotel in 12-15 minutes. I've been to Vegas close to 20 times and find the easiest vacation getaway. We often find $99 flights there too. I guess it all depends on where you live and what you find fun. A car ride with four kids (10 hours x 2) sounds horrible. As a kid, we always had to take trips in the car and I hated them.
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Post by valincal on Feb 22, 2019 19:27:40 GMT
Drive up to Seattle and take an Alaskan cruise. Will probably cost the same, there will be lots for everyone to do, and you and DH can have some alone time while the kids go to the kids clubs. This!
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 22, 2019 19:47:35 GMT
I don't get how people don't have ANYONE in their lives they don't trust to take their kids for a few nights? That's really sad!? Friends? co-workers, family? nothing?!! Even if you would have to drive them to family/friend, and then spend a wk away. I think its good for couples and also kids. Yes, everyone will still be ok if you don't do it, but it's still good for everyone. When my girls were little we had a standing sunday night babysitter. It was great. We also went away for long wkends, and we had my bachelor brother!! (he didn't kill them, and they didn't kill him! ha), my parents, my dh's Mom, my dh's sister take them. They had a great time doing things they never did with us, and we got a wkend to relax!! and eat without being interrupted, and all that comes with kids. This is us. It isn’t that we don’t trust anyone, it’s that the family we have close to us logistically aren’t good options (alcoholics or otherwise unstable) and we don’t want to impose on our friends, most of whom are considerably older than we are. Some of our friends are old enough to have kids close to our age (as in late 40’s-early 50’s), some have health issues that would make it difficult, etc. We just don’t feel right asking, so we don’t. And they never offer either. I am another that was the go-to babysitter when my older siblings had all their kids, but by the time I had my kid they were decades past all that and couldn’t be bothered. The only one of my siblings that would even be willing is the one who lives five states away, so yeah. That’s not happening. DH and I have spent nights away with friends separately over the years, but we have never spent a night away together without our kid since she was born. It is what it is, we had her later in life and knew this was what we would be in for going in and it’s totally okay. We had 25 years alone together before she came along when we were young, so I think we ended up with the better deal overall.
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Post by Leone on Feb 23, 2019 0:11:44 GMT
He wants to go to entertainment and shows? Tickets for six will cost a fortune.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 23, 2019 0:34:04 GMT
But the thing is, with having to get to the airport early, waiting in line for TSA, waiting in line for boarding, flying, waiting for your luggage at baggage claim, waiting for either a rental car or shuttle or taxi once you have everything together at your destination— you end up spending ten hours anyway. And that’s if you have a non-stop, if you have layovers anywhere it adds even more time. Plus flying is more stressful and it’s expensive and it sucks. I would say about 75% of the time, I would much rather drive if the time commitment ends up even remotely close to the same. I guess that would depend on your airport. I can leave my house 75 minutes before my flight, get luggage through, get through TSA and wait 45 minutes for my flight. The flight is about 90 minutes and getting my luggage in Vegas is always quick. It takes longer to walk to the luggage carousel. Uber has me at my hotel in 12-15 minutes. I've been to Vegas close to 20 times and find the easiest vacation getaway. We often find $99 flights there too. I guess it all depends on where you live and what you find fun. A car ride with four kids (10 hours x 2) sounds horrible. As a kid, we always had to take trips in the car and I hated them. It really depends on where you are going and where you’re flying out of. For us, we’re flying out of MSP and the lines for TSA are always awful. DH refuses to fly on Sun Country ever again which means American or Delta, which equals $$$. Going from here to just about anywhere is going to be at least 2-3 hours minimum flying time not including any time changes. And NOTHING is cheap either! I think we paid something close to $1300 for the three of us to fly round trip from here to Orlando (on nonstop flights). Yes, I know it can be cheaper taking one with a layover but DH is just not going to do that. It’s the seventh level of hell for him even being in a plane at all, but having to transfer from one to another puts him right over the edge. LOL, once when his grandpa was sick he flew with his mom from MSP to Chicago O’Hare and between the wait times, the flight and an unexpected delay it took over eight hours. He was so ticked off and I remember him saying to his mom afterward, “Next time just let me drive. We would have gotten there two hours faster!” Sadly, he was right. From here to Chicago it’s about a 90 minute flight. That took ALL DAY.
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Post by pancakes on Feb 23, 2019 1:10:53 GMT
Here's an idea: Pay someone--and agency I guess--to come stay with the kids for 2 nights/days. You and DH go someone for that time. Spend half of what you would have spent for the child care and the other half for the two of you. I like this idea as well. My only other thought is to do a staycation nearby for one night and 1.5 to two full days. Like a day spa with a hotel.
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Post by beaglemom on Feb 23, 2019 1:43:32 GMT
So I get that you are stressing about it, but I think you are overthinking it.
Granted we have only been a family of 6 for just under a year. But in that time we have flown to Disneyland (from SFO) twice, to Boston, to Cabo, and to Denver.
We tend to fly 4-6 times easily a year. I think the last time we had a luggage issue was 10+ years ago.
With kids the ages of yours the older two should easily be able to pack for themselves. Even at a week trip everyone should be able to pack everything they need in a carry on suitcase + backpack.
Honestly, the idea of driving 10 hours with 4 kids is way more stressful than flying to me!
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Post by my3freaks on Feb 23, 2019 2:52:10 GMT
But the thing is, with having to get to the airport early, waiting in line for TSA, waiting in line for boarding, flying, waiting for your luggage at baggage claim, waiting for either a rental car or shuttle or taxi once you have everything together at your destination— you end up spending ten hours anyway. And that’s if you have a non-stop, if you have layovers anywhere it adds even more time. Plus flying is more stressful and it’s expensive and it sucks. I would say about 75% of the time, I would much rather drive if the time commitment ends up even remotely close to the same. I guess that would depend on your airport. I can leave my house 75 minutes before my flight, get luggage through, get through TSA and wait 45 minutes for my flight. The flight is about 90 minutes and getting my luggage in Vegas is always quick. It takes longer to walk to the luggage carousel. Uber has me at my hotel in 12-15 minutes. I've been to Vegas close to 20 times and find the easiest vacation getaway. We often find $99 flights there too. I guess it all depends on where you live and what you find fun. A car ride with four kids (10 hours x 2) sounds horrible. As a kid, we always had to take trips in the car and I hated them. You must not be flying out of DIA.
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Post by 950nancy on Feb 23, 2019 2:57:21 GMT
I guess that would depend on your airport. I can leave my house 75 minutes before my flight, get luggage through, get through TSA and wait 45 minutes for my flight. The flight is about 90 minutes and getting my luggage in Vegas is always quick. It takes longer to walk to the luggage carousel. Uber has me at my hotel in 12-15 minutes. I've been to Vegas close to 20 times and find the easiest vacation getaway. We often find $99 flights there too. I guess it all depends on where you live and what you find fun. A car ride with four kids (10 hours x 2) sounds horrible. As a kid, we always had to take trips in the car and I hated them. You must not be flying out of DIA. Damn, I hate DIA. No, the Colorado Springs airport has 11 little gates and I fly out of there whenever possible. It is about 12 minutes from my house. Sometimes I end up going through Chicago or somewhere in Texas, but I get out much faster than driving 90+ minutes, parking, and going through TSA purgatory. I think we are headed to Grand Cayman this summer out of DIA, but it is a direct flight and worth it.
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Post by my3freaks on Feb 23, 2019 3:21:36 GMT
You must not be flying out of DIA. Damn, I hate DIA. No, the Colorado Springs airport has 11 little gates and I fly out of there whenever possible. It is about 12 minutes from my house. Sometimes I end up going through Chicago or somewhere in Texas, but I get out much faster than driving 90+ minutes, parking, and going through TSA purgatory. I think we are headed to Grand Cayman this summer out of DIA, but it is a direct flight and worth it. Hmm....I've never thought to look at flights around here other than at DIA, which is a nightmare. I live about 35-45 mins away from it, and probably 90 mins from Colorado Springs. The longer drive might be worth not dealing with security and the stupid train at DIA if the prices are comparable. I'm going to Vegas in June (I'm dreading the weather, but it's for a concert and I'm meeting a friend I haven't seen in about 7 years). I'm going to check the prices, thanks for the tip!
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Post by 950nancy on Feb 23, 2019 3:30:07 GMT
Damn, I hate DIA. No, the Colorado Springs airport has 11 little gates and I fly out of there whenever possible. It is about 12 minutes from my house. Sometimes I end up going through Chicago or somewhere in Texas, but I get out much faster than driving 90+ minutes, parking, and going through TSA purgatory. I think we are headed to Grand Cayman this summer out of DIA, but it is a direct flight and worth it. Hmm....I've never thought to look at flights around here other than at DIA, which is a nightmare. I live about 35-45 mins away from it, and probably 90 mins from Colorado Springs. The longer drive might be worth not dealing with security and the stupid train at DIA if the prices are comparable. I'm going to Vegas in June (I'm dreading the weather, but it's for a concert and I'm meeting a friend I haven't seen in about 7 years). I'm going to check the prices, thanks for the tip! We get great flights out of CS in emails. I think if you check some places like Expedia and put in COS, you could hit the jackpot. Parking is so much better and cheaper too. I fly for work and if I leave out of the Springs, my wait time at security is about 7 minutes.
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