breetheflea
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Post by breetheflea on Feb 21, 2019 21:24:03 GMT
DH and my 20th anniversary is this summer.
DH wants to do "something special" but due to having no family that will watch our 4 kids (age 14, 12,9 and 5) we have to bring the kids.
DH insists that "driving is boring," and we have to fly somewhere or it's not a "real" vacation. It would be something like 3-4 nights total.
I DO NOT want to deal with: getting 6 people to the airport checking bags sitting in the airport flying retrieving bags getting to the hotel and repeat when we leave
I'd rather drive, at least we can stop and do stuff on the way and our luggage doesn't end up getting lost.
DH wants to fly to Las Vegas (SW Airlines because he has a voucher.) What are the chances we'll get 2 sets of 3 seats together?
I'd rather drive to Reno (10 hours) than deal with airports.
I offered to get a prescription for anti-anxiety medication/get drunk on the plane and DH got mad at me and says we're not going anywhere now...
I just hate flying. It's so stressful.
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Post by mikklynn on Feb 21, 2019 21:26:17 GMT
I can't imagine trying to fly with 4 children. I know people do, but yikes!
Would running the numbers on the cost of 6 plane tickets compared to renting a nice vehicle to drive help him see your way of thinking?
Plus, add in the time for arriving at the airport 1.5-2 hours early, the flight time, the time to rent a car upon arrival and driving might not be that different from flying!
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Post by myshelly on Feb 21, 2019 21:26:34 GMT
Flying is stressful, but driving wastes so much of your vacation time.
Southwest boards families after the A group, so I really don’t think you’ll have a problem sitting together.
We only fly southwest.
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Post by mikklynn on Feb 21, 2019 21:28:47 GMT
Flying is stressful, but driving wastes so much of your vacation time. Southwest boards families after the A group, so I really don’t think you’ll have a problem sitting together. We only fly southwest. Only 1 parent can pre-board with a child 6 or younger.
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Post by rahnee on Feb 21, 2019 21:32:17 GMT
I have to vote with your hubby here. 3-4 days vacation and driving 10 hours in each direction. It's just too much time out of what is already a limited time. And 4 kids bored for 10 hours straight in each direction. That would be stressful.
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Post by dewryce on Feb 21, 2019 21:36:49 GMT
Las Vegas vs Reno? I’d fly to Las Vegas, no question. If you were going to drive to the same location I’d consider driving. But that is losing a day each way, once you add in rest stops and food stops. With flying, if you leave early, you still have the evening for everyone to laze around the pool and eat room service and relax when you arrive in the evening. Start the vacation on the right foot.
Also, having driven with my family of 3 children every summer for 12 hour trip one-way...they were miserable. And we were all cranky by the time we got where we were going. At least with air travel everyone won’t be sitting right up against each other the whole way.
And I like road trips and am often pointing out the time suck of traveling to and waiting at the airport to others.
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breetheflea
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Post by breetheflea on Feb 21, 2019 21:38:03 GMT
I have to vote with your hubby here. 3-4 days vacation and driving 10 hours in each direction. It's just too much time out of what is already a limited time. And 4 kids bored for 10 hours straight in each direction. That would be stressful. We drive 6 hours to the inlaws a few times a year, what's 4 more hours? The nice thing about driving is we can be loud and no one cares. I'm going to have to get a muzzle for the 9-year-old if we fly... My friend recently flew SW and her 8-year-old had to sit by herself...
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Post by bc2ca on Feb 21, 2019 21:40:31 GMT
DH and my 20th anniversary is this summer. DH wants to do "something special" but due to having no family that will watch our 4 kids (age 14, 12,9 and 5) we have to bring the kids. DH insists that "driving is boring," and we have to fly somewhere or it's not a "real" vacation. It would be something like 3-4 nights total. I DO NOT want to deal with: getting 6 people to the airport checking bags sitting in the airport flying retrieving bags getting to the hotel and repeat when we leave I'd rather drive, at least we can stop and do stuff on the way and our luggage doesn't end up getting lost. DH wants to fly to Las Vegas (SW Airlines because he has a voucher.) What are the chances we'll get 2 sets of 3 seats together? I'd rather drive to Reno (10 hours) than deal with airports. I offered to get a prescription for anti-anxiety medication/get drunk on the plane and DH got mad at me and says we're not going anywhere now... I just hate flying. It's so stressful. Getting seats together is the last worry I have looking at this, TBH. You really just need to worry about the younger two, so 1 set of 3 or 2 sets of 2 are very like to happen and others can scatter about the plane in a worst case scenario. Going for only 3-4 days you also shouldn't be worrying about lost luggage and have everyone take carryon only. Why is Vegas with kids appealing to him? If Reno is another option distance wise, I'd start selling him on a north Lake Tahoe vacation. There are so many family friendly options around Truckee and many great restaurants and entertainments options for you and DH to slip away for an evening out.
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Post by myshelly on Feb 21, 2019 21:42:30 GMT
I have to vote with your hubby here. 3-4 days vacation and driving 10 hours in each direction. It's just too much time out of what is already a limited time. And 4 kids bored for 10 hours straight in each direction. That would be stressful. We drive 6 hours to the inlaws a few times a year, what's 4 more hours? The nice thing about driving is we can be loud and no one cares. I'm going to have to get a muzzle for the 9-year-old if we fly... My friend recently flew SW and her 8-year-old had to sit by herself... Pay for early bird check in. If you’re only going for 3-4 days, surely everyone can pack in their carry on plus personal item. That eliminates checking bags and retrieving luggage. I have to agree with your husband, though. Short vacations are only worth it if you fly.
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Feb 21, 2019 21:45:16 GMT
I have to vote with your hubby here. 3-4 days vacation and driving 10 hours in each direction. It's just too much time out of what is already a limited time. And 4 kids bored for 10 hours straight in each direction. That would be stressful. We drive 6 hours to the inlaws a few times a year, what's 4 more hours? The nice thing about driving is we can be loud and no one cares. I'm going to have to get a muzzle for the 9-year-old if we fly... My friend recently flew SW and her 8-year-old had to sit by herself...
I prefer flying, too, especially for a short trip. SW has an early boarding add-on, but as long as one of you pre-boards with the 5 year old, you'll be OK. The other kids are all old enough, unless there are developmental issues, to sit alone if it came to that. They will be fine with an electronic device and headphones. Also, if you check in at the 24 hour mark, you'll most likely have plenty of seat choices. Just keep heading to the back of the plane until you fine seats together.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 21:46:36 GMT
Can you consider doing things like this to make airport travel easier? - Each of the oldest teams up with one of the youngest. The oldest of the team is responsible for helping the younger one get through the security line, go the bathroom, eat, drink, sit next to on the plane, etc. - Each family members packs ONE suitcase and ONE personal item (no bigger than a 20L backpack). That way everyone can take their suitcase onto the plane so you don't have to do the luggage tango. Just watch your liquids. - Pay for EarlyBird check-in on SWA. - Don't set your expectations of getting three seats together. Work for two-seats together. It's an airplane - no one is going anywhere. Refer back to the buddy system in my first point - Get two adjoining hotel rooms with a lock on the door so you and DH can have some alone time. - If this doesn't help consider hiring a "nanny" to go with you to help manage the younger kiddos so you and DH can relax. Heck, get a friend of your 14 year old teenager to go with you to be the extra set of hands and eyes you need on the 12, 9, and 5 year olds. Driving is going to suck all of your time away from what could be a really cool vacation. In my 15 years of flying SouthWest for business I have NEVER seen a child this young fly in a seat by themselves if the parent kindly asks another passenger to switch seats. If the passenger is that much of an asshat and won't switch usually someone else steps up.
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Post by shamrock on Feb 21, 2019 21:51:39 GMT
We fly southwest multiple times a year and have since my boys were small. Pay for Early Bird check in. You will be in groups A or B. If you really don’t want to pay that extra fee make sure you check in the second the timeframe opens for it. I would expect you to,be able to get seats together. One parent may be able to do family boarding (between A & B) groups with your youngest, but check the age requirement. I don’t like flying and have anxiety over it. I sit with my 2 boys and DH sits across or behind/in front. We have never been separated.
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Post by heckofagal on Feb 21, 2019 21:52:17 GMT
Is there any way you can take the train somewhere? Chicago? I'm not sure where you are from, but that would be a new experience for the kids and nobody has to drive.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 21:53:37 GMT
I tend to agree with your DH (especially for a short trip) and with the ages your kids are at, I would assume they would do pretty well (you would likely know if they would or not). We have flown a number of times with 4 kids (youngest kid was 3 the first time we went with all 4) and they have always done well. I am a fan of checking luggage (we share 1-2 suitcases) and have the kids use backpacks for carry-ons so their hands are free for boarding/unboarding. These days, there are so many screen options, you don't even need to take much along to keep them occupied. For my longest flight ever (22 hours) I brought the least along for the plane and I'll never go back to hauling a bunch of crap I don't need "just in case" on a flight. Also, depending on the logistics for renting a car, that may be about the same as going to the airport.
FWIW, I think either driving or flying are fine, but our long road trips with 4 kids haven't been overly fun. And they were planned as road trips intentionally because we were doing a lot of stops on the way....not just getting to a destination.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Feb 21, 2019 21:54:44 GMT
I'm sorry but spending my 20 yr wedding anniversary with my 4 kids and dealing with all of that sounds like a nightmarish time. No thanks. I would find someone to take the kids. Split them up with friends? or drop them off with family.
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Post by anaterra on Feb 21, 2019 22:01:57 GMT
I second cindyupnorth... hire a sitter for the week and go somewhere nice with dh... the money for someone to stay with ur kids has to be cheaper then 4 extra plane tckts... and better then spending 2 days of ur trip in a car with all 6 people..
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breetheflea
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Post by breetheflea on Feb 21, 2019 22:02:49 GMT
I'm sorry but spending my 20 yr wedding anniversary with my 4 kids and dealing with all of that sounds like a nightmarish time. No thanks. I would find someone to take the kids. Split them up with friends? or drop them off with family. I left out the part where we are supposed to get a hotel room with a kitchenette so we can cook our own food and don't have to eat out...
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Post by anaterra on Feb 21, 2019 22:05:35 GMT
I'm sorry but spending my 20 yr wedding anniversary with my 4 kids and dealing with all of that sounds like a nightmarish time. No thanks. I would find someone to take the kids. Split them up with friends? or drop them off with family. I left out the part where we are supposed to get a hotel room with a kitchenette so we can cook our own food and don't have to eat out... Just stay home!! Lol that's not a vacation
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Post by kitkath on Feb 21, 2019 22:11:21 GMT
I left out the part where we are supposed to get a hotel room with a kitchenette so we can cook our own food and don't have to eat out... Just stay home!! Lol that's not a vacation Yeah, forget that.
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Post by AllieC on Feb 21, 2019 22:11:46 GMT
Is there somewhere close (within an hour or 2) where you could book into a lovely hotel and then really enjoy that 5 days? Saves lots of money and time and you could get a much nicer hotel and book experiences/dinners etc with the money you would save on flights.
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Post by rockymtnpea on Feb 21, 2019 22:17:26 GMT
Can the in laws not watch the kids while you all take a short trip? What about friends if you split the kids between families.
The thing about flying is that you know ahead a time that it is what it is. You take a few deep breaths and get through it and then you are at your destination. To make it easier each person is responsible for their own stuff they will need while at the vacation destination. Each person carries or rolls their own bag.(yes this includes the 5 year old)Then take advantage of the free bags that Southwest offers and check them. All the kids can have a small backpack with their activities/food they want ON the plane stored in them
If you are worried about sitting with the 5 year old buy two early birds and get on with him/her and secure a seat. Everyone else can sit somewhere on the plane. No need to all be together.
We fly often with our three kids so they are seasoned...I gave up being responsible for all their stuff (and the stress of that) long ago. Everyone packs for themselves and I just give them reminders.
The trip will be as fun as you allow it to be without thinking of all the negatives.
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Post by christine58 on Feb 21, 2019 22:19:43 GMT
I'm sorry but spending my 20 yr wedding anniversary with my 4 kids and dealing with all of that sounds like a nightmarish time. No thanks. I would find someone to take the kids. Split them up with friends? or drop them off with family. I left out the part where we are supposed to get a hotel room with a kitchenette so we can cook our own food and don't have to eat out... That is NOT a vacation....
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Post by breetheflea on Feb 21, 2019 22:20:21 GMT
Is there somewhere close (within an hour or 2) where you could book into a lovely hotel and then really enjoy that 5 days? Saves lots of money and time and you could get a much nicer hotel and book experiences/dinners etc with the money you would save on flights. We're near Portland. I've suggested Seattle (I haven't been there since I was 12) Leavenworth, a couple of resorts in the San Juans, Canada, Idaho... DH wants entertainment and shows. I'm going to keep looking. Too bad he doesn't golf, every resort within 6 hours seems to have a golf course...
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Post by pilcas on Feb 21, 2019 22:23:59 GMT
I travel to Europe when my kids were as young as 1 and 2yrs old. It as worth it, don’t focus on he ndga5ive? Once you ge to your destination it should be fine. No kitchenette, eat junk food! Cooking is no part of a vacation!
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Post by gar on Feb 21, 2019 22:26:31 GMT
I'm sorry but spending my 20 yr wedding anniversary with my 4 kids and dealing with all of that sounds like a nightmarish time. No thanks. I would find someone to take the kids. Split them up with friends? or drop them off with family. I left out the part where we are supposed to get a hotel room with a kitchenette so we can cook our own food and don't have to eat out... Honestly I'd rather not go. I'd rather stay home and have some days/evenings out, some time with the kids and some without.
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Post by rockymtnpea on Feb 21, 2019 22:36:17 GMT
Wait what? You are supposed to cook on this vacation? (well you did say "we' so assume that means your dh and kids will cook too?) Ya if I have to cook then I call that a trip and that is not really my idea of fun. I would rather stay home and use my own pots and pans. How is that celebrating your 20 years together if everything your husband wants to do is stuff you don't want to do?
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Post by stingfan on Feb 21, 2019 22:37:32 GMT
I have 4 kids - two teens and two 8yos. We fly SWA and haven't had any issues. I don't pay for pre-boarding and we no longer qualify for family boarding. I check-in right at the 24 hour mark and typically get A boarding passes or some of the first B group passes. We have always been able to all sit in 2 rows. Sitting 2X3 wouldn't have been an issue either. We do assign one older kid to be responsible for a younger kid. And checking luggage with SWA hasn't been a big deal either. Sounds like maybe you just don't like to fly. And that's fine too .
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Post by padresfan619 on Feb 21, 2019 22:51:33 GMT
For all of that effort including having to cook the majority of your meals, I'd stay home and spend the money on a really nice evening out. It isn't a vacation with kids or having to cook.
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Post by Basket1lady on Feb 21, 2019 22:53:50 GMT
That does not sound like a fun trip! (And we took our kids on our 20th anniversary trip to Cape Cod where we rented a cottage.). The quick turn around and the cooking in a kitchenette. No thanks. And shows for 6 people is going to cost up the wazoo! And I wouldn’t have left my kids home alone overnight with the eldest only 14.
I get it. We are a military family and have never had family to stay with our kids. We hired sitters or stayed home. It’s ok to celebrate with your kids—I’d just really recommend at least a dinner out alone.
I’d say stay home and go out for the night. Find a show locally and go to that. If you are in too small of a town, go to the city and get two hotel rooms. Let the kids order pizza and go out to a show or dinner. The 14 year old should be able to keep them all alive for a few hours.
As much as I think flying is a highly overrated hassle, I wouldn’t want to spend 2 days in a 4 day trip driving. But it doesn’t sound like much of a vacation for you.
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Post by ~summer~ on Feb 21, 2019 23:08:21 GMT
Does not sound fun.
Why the heck are you going to Vegas in the summer with kids?
If it’s just 3-4 days with 4 kids I’d fly to a resort and just hang out. What about Florida? Or San Diego?
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