pyccku
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 2,817
Jun 27, 2014 23:12:07 GMT
|
Post by pyccku on Feb 27, 2019 12:14:06 GMT
Judging from his opening statement, it's going to be a pretty big day. Here are some of the highlights:
You can read the full remarks here. It's well worth the time. He talks about Trump's racism, about him being a con man, the Trump Tower deal, and how Trump never wanted or intended to win - he just saw the campaign as a huge marketing campaign for his brand.
|
|
rodeomom
Pearl Clutcher
Refupee # 380 "I don't have to run fast, I just have to run faster than you."
Posts: 3,667
Location: Chickasaw Nation, Oklahoma
Jun 25, 2014 23:34:38 GMT
|
Post by rodeomom on Feb 27, 2019 12:22:48 GMT
I have swim class dang it! Please keep this thread going so I can read it when I get back.
|
|
pyccku
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 2,817
Jun 27, 2014 23:12:07 GMT
|
Post by pyccku on Feb 27, 2019 12:28:57 GMT
So for all of those people who believed/still believe in Trump - that he was going to "Make America Great Again" and that he was going to save America from whatever problems you fear will destroy her - it turns out that you were nothing more than pawns to be used in his quest for the almighty dollar. The sad thing is that there are still people out there who believe that he cares about them, he is going to rescue them, he is going to be the white knight who saves their community.
He doesn't care about you, he never has, and he never will. You were conned. It's hard to admit it, but that's what happened. You can now either recognize that you were conned, or you can continue to have faith in someone who isn't at all who he says he is. You'll continue to lose your farms, your communities will continue to decline, your coal mines and steel jobs aren't coming back. He's not your savior. In fact, he may well be your worst nightmare.
|
|
|
Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 27, 2019 13:23:42 GMT
I have a feeling Trump is going to have a hard time focusing on his meeting today.
|
|
MaryMary
Pearl Clutcher
Lazy
Posts: 2,975
Jun 25, 2014 21:56:13 GMT
|
Post by MaryMary on Feb 27, 2019 13:29:47 GMT
I am so hopeful that any of this will make a difference, but so scared after the last 2 years that nothing ever will.
And I am glad that he has been compelled to tell what he knows, but have zero respect for anyone that worked with/for Trump. They know what he is and don’t care as long as it benefits them. They are garbage.
|
|
|
Post by Merge on Feb 27, 2019 13:39:23 GMT
I was shocked when I read the opening statement. But I also have little faith that anything will change.
|
|
Just T
Drama Llama
Posts: 5,587
Jun 26, 2014 1:20:09 GMT
|
Post by Just T on Feb 27, 2019 13:47:58 GMT
Thanks for the link, pyccku. I read it all.
I can't help but wonder how believable he will be, though. It sounds like he has documents to back up a few of his claims, but it seems like a lot of it is a "your word against his" situation. Like overhearing Don Jr. telling Trump about the infamous Trump Tower meeting. How will he be able to prove that? Or the comments Trump supposedly made about African Americans?
I am not hopeful that any of his testimony is going to change anything at all.
|
|
|
Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Feb 27, 2019 13:57:39 GMT
I have swim class dang it! Please keep this thread going so I can read it when I get back. I have to take dd to an appointment. I agree, please keep this thread going.
|
|
|
Post by andreasmom on Feb 27, 2019 14:36:00 GMT
I, unfortunately, think this won’t change a thing. 45’s “mega fanz”don’t really care. He could shoot someone down 5th Ave and no one would bat an eye. They would actually defend him. Sad.
|
|
|
Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 27, 2019 14:45:11 GMT
I’d love a separate thread. I’ve lost interest in wading through the everything under the sun thread.
I’ll be here. I have an incredible headache for the first time in ages, but I’m watching the Cohen testimony with friends here today, no matter how bad my head feels! Lol
|
|
|
Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 27, 2019 14:46:13 GMT
So for all of those people who believed/still believe in Trump - that he was going to "Make America Great Again" and that he was going to save America from whatever problems you fear will destroy her - it turns out that you were nothing more than pawns to be used in his quest for the almighty dollar. The sad thing is that there are still people out there who believe that he cares about them, he is going to rescue them, he is going to be the white knight who saves their community. He doesn't care about you, he never has, and he never will. You were conned. It's hard to admit it, but that's what happened. You can now either recognize that you were conned, or you can continue to have faith in someone who isn't at all who he says he is. You'll continue to lose your farms, your communities will continue to decline, your coal mines and steel jobs aren't coming back. He's not your savior. In fact, he may well be your worst nightmare. I’ve been saying this from Day 1.
|
|
|
Post by crimsoncat05 on Feb 27, 2019 14:52:59 GMT
what time does his testimony start, does anyone know?
I read his opening statement... I doubt it will change the die-hard Trumpsters' opinions, but I think his statement sounds extremely credible. I totally understand how someone could get so 'starstruck' by Trump's strange variety of charisma and could start to believe that doing the unethical things he did for DT were 'okay' especially when DT was 'just a real estate mogul' before getting into politics.
|
|
lindas
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 4,210
Jun 26, 2014 5:46:37 GMT
|
Post by lindas on Feb 27, 2019 14:57:51 GMT
Cohen is going to sit there today and tell the democrats whatever they want to hear. He has nothing to lose, he's already been charged with lying to congress so they can't get him again. On the other hand he has a lot to gain.....a book deal, maybe a movie of the week. Poor Michael, duped by the likes of Trump. The dems will treat him like the second coming of Christ and the republicans will rip into him like a fresh piece of red meat. We've been watching this same show in congress for years and the only thing that changes are the people in the starring roles.
When it's all said and done the only thing that's a given from the whole shitshow will be fresh fodder for the news pundits. We'll be no closer to knowing the truth then we were yesterday.
For over 2 years we've been told Mueller is a straight shooter so I'll just wait to see what's in his report.
|
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Jul 2, 2024 2:44:47 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 14:58:10 GMT
For those who wonder if they can believe Cohen.
From some guy called Tea Pain..
”Just remember as you listen to Michael Cohen today that Bob Mueller and/or the SDNY has approved everything he will say ahead of time.
That should send chills down the spine of anyone Mueller hasn’t interviewed yet.”
I have to believe there is some truth in this as I understand Cohen is still talking to both these parties.
|
|
|
Post by crimsoncat05 on Feb 27, 2019 15:01:01 GMT
On the other hand he has a lot to gain.....a book deal, maybe a movie of the week. ...or maybe regaining his self-respect and the respect of his friends and family? The satisfaction of finally DOING THE RIGHT THING because he realizes the man he worked for is corrupt and damaging the ENTIRE COUNTRY with his greed? naaah... I'm sure he's in it just for the $$. /s (your post sounds a LOT like the [fake news] post you wrote yesterday about AOC and her "$10 million Netflix movie deal" actually.)
|
|
|
Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 27, 2019 15:02:46 GMT
I have a feeling Trump is going to have a hard time focusing on his meeting today. It is going on 10 PM over there............. so he is watching now............ I can't help but wonder how believable he will be, though. It sounds like he has documents to back up a few of his claims, but it seems like a lot of it is a "your word against his" situation. Like overhearing Don Jr. telling Trump about the infamous Trump Tower meeting. How will he be able to prove that? Or the comments Trump supposedly made about African Americans? REmember he has testified to Mueller, so he needs to be very careful not to lie again, because there could be new charges... However the committee and us may not know what he may lie about today! This is one little bit of 'çhecks and balances'
|
|
|
Post by quinlove on Feb 27, 2019 15:03:54 GMT
I’d love a separate thread. I’ve lost interest in wading through the everything under the sun thread. I’ll be here. I have an incredible headache for the first time in ages, but I’m watching the Cohen testimony with friends here today, no matter how bad my head feels! Lol Unless it’s a migraine, can you take a bc powder ? It’s the only thing that works instantly for my rare headache. 😊
|
|
janeliz
Drama Llama
I'm the Wiz and nobody beats me.
Posts: 5,637
Jun 26, 2014 14:35:07 GMT
|
Post by janeliz on Feb 27, 2019 15:06:13 GMT
Like others, I feel like we’re all now living in bizarro world and nothing will ever make sense again. I’m glued to any and all news about Michael Cohen, though. It’s like a Scorsese film.
|
|
|
Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 27, 2019 15:09:32 GMT
Cohen is going to sit there today and tell the democrats whatever they want to hear. He has nothing to lose, he's already been charged with lying to congress so they can't get him again. Not sure about this...... I would think that every time or at least each committee he lies to would be a separate charge. Again Mueller knows what Cohen has already said.
|
|
|
Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 27, 2019 15:11:19 GMT
Motion on the floor to postpone the hearing.
24-17 in favor to proceed.
|
|
|
Post by crimsoncat05 on Feb 27, 2019 15:12:02 GMT
it's live-streaming on NBC news on Youtube, FYI. I just started watching. found it.
eta: whaaaa? dang. He needs to tell what he knows, in public, so we can hear it!! why?
I thought he needed to testify BEFORE he heads to jail?
eta2: whew. 24-17 to PROCEED-- I didn't read that close enough.
|
|
|
Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 27, 2019 15:12:52 GMT
I’d love a separate thread. I’ve lost interest in wading through the everything under the sun thread. I’ll be here. I have an incredible headache for the first time in ages, but I’m watching the Cohen testimony with friends here today, no matter how bad my head feels! Lol Unless it’s a migraine, can you take a bc powder ? It’s the only thing that works instantly for my rare headache. 😊 I’m going to hit record on my tv and take a run, I usually feel better being cold!
|
|
trollie
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 3,580
Jul 2, 2014 22:14:02 GMT
|
Post by trollie on Feb 27, 2019 15:14:10 GMT
Sadly, Trump supporters will still support Trump. We have Trump's voice on camera bragging about grabbing women by the pussy and moving on them like a bitch. That should have sunk his ship. Everyone, including his supporters, knows this President has no morals and no conscience. Cohen's testimony will change nothing in that regard.
|
|
|
Post by disneypal on Feb 27, 2019 15:19:11 GMT
I have a feeling Trump is going to have a hard time focusing on his meeting today. I doubt it - his ego is too big for that. He figures he gotten away from everything so far and I am sure he is confident nothing will come of this, because that is just the way he thinks. (UGH!) Sadly, Trump supporters will still support Trump. We have Trump's voice on camera bragging about grabbing women by the pussy and moving on them like a bitch. That should have sunk his ship. Everyone, including his supporters, knows this President has no morals and no conscience. Cohen's testimony will change nothing in that regard. Sadly, yes, you are so right about that.
|
|
|
Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 27, 2019 15:19:45 GMT
Cohen is going to sit there today and tell the democrats whatever they want to hear. He has nothing to lose, he's already been charged with lying to congress so they can't get him again. On the other hand he has a lot to gain.....a book deal, maybe a movie of the week. Poor Michael, duped by the likes of Trump. The dems will treat him like the second coming of Christ and the republicans will rip into him like a fresh piece of red meat. We've been watching this same show in congress for years and the only thing that changes are the people in the starring roles. When it's all said and done the only thing that's a given from the whole shitshow will be fresh fodder for the news pundits. We'll be no closer to knowing the truth then we were yesterday. For over 2 years we've been told Mueller is a straight shooter so I'll just wait to see what's in his report. Love your crystal ball that you’re definitive declaration that there is no way Cohen can be possibly truthful. Of course YOU would say this, believe this given your propensity for supporting the lies and actively participating in the gaslighting done by the Republicans. It’s a real damn shame that you already have your mind made up, and that you cannot at least be a teensy bit open that he could be telling the truth. Your mentioning a “book deal” is rich, given the promoting of self that trump does, including books, his daughters business, trump properties and his brand. You’ve turned into a trump loyalist. Despite your attempts to claim otherwise.
|
|
|
Post by canadianscrappergirl on Feb 27, 2019 15:21:52 GMT
I think he will be credible even with his earlier denials and lying.
By the sounds of it he was like the accountant for the mob who has the fake/cooked books and then the real books that actually show all devious crap of Trump ie emails/meeting notes/ETC. It reminds me of the scene from The Godfather movie or The Untouchables.
|
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Jul 2, 2024 2:44:47 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 15:24:43 GMT
MSNBC.. ”Chairman Cummings to Republicans: "You've made it clear that you do not want the American people to hear what Mr. Cohen has to say. But the American people have a right to hear him. So we're going to proceed." I have wanted to use this emoji but was waiting for the right situation. I think today’s hearing is it.
|
|
suzastampin
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 2,587
Jun 28, 2014 14:32:59 GMT
|
Post by suzastampin on Feb 27, 2019 15:26:01 GMT
25 minutes in and it’s all Clinton’s fault already. LOL
|
|
|
Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 27, 2019 15:26:19 GMT
For those who wonder if they can believe Cohen. From some guy called Tea Pain.. ”Just remember as you listen to Michael Cohen today that Bob Mueller and/or the SDNY has approved everything he will say ahead of time. That should send chills down the spine of anyone Mueller hasn’t interviewed yet.” I have to believe there is some truth in this as I understand Cohen is still talking to both these parties. This is what I was thinking. The republicans are trying really hard to discredit Cohen and the democrats. What they forget is that trump also has a lot to lose, and he has a history of lying just as much, if not more than Cohen. I also assume that anything Cohen says can be backed up by Mueller and what he found through his investigating. Unfortunately, many will believe it. Sad.
|
|
|
Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 27, 2019 15:26:32 GMT
Jim Jordan portraying this heading as a “show” orchestrated by Lanny Davis.
Trying to Set the stage that the committee chair is only interest I. Attacking potus.
Jim Jordan is on a full on rant against Democrats.
JJ is inferring that Clinton is in this.
JJ is also once again attempting to make a motion to postpone the hearing (that they already took a vote on and disagreed with JJ) wanting Cohens testimony 44 hrs prior to a hearing.
—-
Russia questions is now on the table.
—-Cohen opening statement
|
|