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Post by sabrinae on Mar 8, 2019 0:26:47 GMT
Manafort only got 47 months. He was eligible for 19-24 years. I’m surprised. I though he’s get about twice that.
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Post by mom on Mar 8, 2019 0:29:17 GMT
I am surprised he didn’t get more. 🤷🏼♀️
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Post by peasquared on Mar 8, 2019 0:32:11 GMT
I've heard of people who have written a $20 bad check get more. Unbelievable!
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Post by dewryce on Mar 8, 2019 0:32:52 GMT
I’m surprised too, will have to go read up on this and see if the judge made any comments to indicate why that length was chosen.
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Post by beachbum on Mar 8, 2019 0:34:29 GMT
He'll get more next week when he's sentenced in VA. Could add 10 years.
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Post by pyccku on Mar 8, 2019 0:38:23 GMT
I’m surprised too, will have to go read up on this and see if the judge made any comments to indicate why that length was chosen. Mitigating factors: 1. Rich 2. White 3. Male |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Mar 8, 2019 0:48:03 GMT
Wow.
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Post by Merge on Mar 8, 2019 0:51:09 GMT
And a black woman in Texas who voted when she wasn't legally allowed to do so (previous felony conviction) got five years.
American "justice!"
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Post by busy on Mar 8, 2019 0:57:56 GMT
I’m surprised too, will have to go read up on this and see if the judge made any comments to indicate why that length was chosen. Mitigating factors: 1. Rich 2. White 3. Male Come on, white men are the most oppressed group in America!!! (Sorry, I can't even say that without gagging.) |
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Post by pierkiss on Mar 8, 2019 1:02:07 GMT
I’m not surprised at all. I’d be shocked if he got a longer sentence.
Rich white guy commits political crimes. 🙄. I’m shocked he didn’t just get a wave of the hand or probation.
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Post by katybee on Mar 8, 2019 1:02:14 GMT
This really pisses me off. The judge said he had an “otherwise blameless life.” Seriously? You think he was a fepreaking choir boy? I really am starting to get so discouraged about the state of our democracy…
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 8, 2019 1:02:37 GMT
$50,000 fine, 2 years supervised release
6-20 million dollars restitution ...
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Post by Skellinton on Mar 8, 2019 1:03:11 GMT
Ridiculous.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 8, 2019 1:03:56 GMT
I really am starting to get so discouraged about the state of our democracy… So am I! |
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Post by sabrinae on Mar 8, 2019 1:19:07 GMT
$50,000 fine, 2 years supervised release 6-20 million dollars restitution ... He will likely never pay the fine or restitution. If it gets paid, it will get paid upon his death from his estate - depending on how good his attorneys are at estate planning. People don’t get put back in prison for Not paying fines and restitution. The real punishment he’ll get is imprisonment and even that is fine under pretty cushy conditions. Hopefully, he’ll get the full 10 additional possible years but I doubt it. I think at the most he’ll get 2-3 more years. I do wonder if the prosecutors will appeal the sentence as being outside sentencing guidelines. Though, I haven’t looked at specific sentencing guidelines for his charges |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Mar 8, 2019 1:36:46 GMT
Ridiculous.
Mueller is waiting to see and hasn’t said whether he’d ask for concurrent sentences.
“While Manafort gets credit for the 9 months he's already served—meaning he only has 38 months (3 years and 2 months) left to serve—he'll face *another* sentencing in a week from another (far less favorable) judge, who can run her sentence consecutive to (*after*) this one.” Seth Abraham
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Post by ComplicatedLady on Mar 8, 2019 1:44:19 GMT
Mitigating factors: 1. Rich 2. White 3. Male Come on, white men are the most oppressed group in America!!! (Sorry, I can't even say that without gagging.) Do we need to add 4. Christian ? I thought white Christian men were the mostest oppressed. I honestly have no idea of his religious affiliation or claims. I’m just going with the odds... |
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Post by trollie on Mar 8, 2019 1:47:32 GMT
This judge was sympathetic towards Manafort and has made comments about disagreeing with this investigation in the past. Hopefully the other judge will throw the book at him.
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Post by scrapngranny on Mar 8, 2019 2:11:39 GMT
I would go steal $60 million dollars if I would only get 47 months. That would work out to $15 million a year. Not bad wages.
The judge never felt Manafort should have been indicted in the first place. He felt Manafort was being used to get to Trump.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 8, 2019 2:27:45 GMT
YUp!
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Post by berty on Mar 8, 2019 2:41:01 GMT
I would go steal $60 million dollars if I would only get 47 months. That would work out to $15 million a year. Not bad wages. The judge never felt Manafort should have been indicted in the first place. He felt Manafort was being used to get to Trump. I'm no lawyer, but as an avid Law and Order watcher, even I know about the whole blindfolded woman statue/ justice is blind thing. What ever happened to following the letter of the law, regardless of personal opinions? Hell, if having a strong opinion is all it takes, at least 3/4 of the people on this board should be appointed to a judgeship. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Mar 8, 2019 3:36:33 GMT
And all the while, trump and the GOP keep nominating and confirming judges whom show this type of favor.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Mar 8, 2019 3:37:51 GMT
Manafort’s statement regarding no collusion was meant for trump. Requesting in plain sight that notion of a pardon.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 8, 2019 3:48:04 GMT
Manafort’s statement regarding no collusion was meant for trump. Requesting in plain sight that notion of a pardon. A pardon is not all it is cracked up to be. Yes, get out of jail card but....... required to testify FULLY to Congress, grand jury, trial anywhere he gets called.... If he should lie, JAIL no pardon for that!! |
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Post by BSnyder on Mar 8, 2019 3:49:57 GMT
I would go steal $60 million dollars if I would only get 47 months. That would work out to $15 million a year. Not bad wages. The judge never felt Manafort should have been indicted in the first place. He felt Manafort was being used to get to Trump. That could be, or likely is the case, but he broke the law. And, his crime carries a standard sentence. He knew he was breaking the law and purposely chose to continue braking the law. Whether he was caught as Trump was being investigated or not, the laws he broke wouldn’t be any different in either case, so how he was found out shouldn’t have any bearing on the sentence. If I was pulled over for a broken taillight and the police found 5 lbs of meth in my car, would I get a lesser drug sentence because they only used my broken taillight to get to my illegal drugs? Otherwise I would have never been caught...so a crime isn’t a crime, unless you’re caught. IMO this judge made a political decision, not a just one. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 5:26:38 GMT
He got a very light white sentence.
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Post by dewryce on Mar 8, 2019 6:22:15 GMT
I would go steal $60 million dollars if I would only get 47 months. That would work out to $15 million a year. Not bad wages. The judge never felt Manafort should have been indicted in the first place. He felt Manafort was being used to get to Trump. That could be, or likely is the case, but he broke the law. And, his crime carries a standard sentence. He knew he was breaking the law and purposely chose to continue braking the law. Whether he was caught as Trump was being investigated or not, the laws he broke wouldn’t be any different in either case, so how he was found out shouldn’t have any bearing on the sentence. If I was pulled over for a broken taillight and the police found 5 lbs of meth in my car, would I get a lesser drug sentence because they only used my broken taillight to get to my illegal drugs? Otherwise I would have never been caught...so a crime isn’t a crime, unless you’re caught. IMO this judge made a political decision, not a just one. Exactly what I was thinking! |
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Post by flute4peace on Mar 8, 2019 7:14:10 GMT
And all the while, trump and the GOP keep nominating and confirming judges whom show this type of favor. This is the scariest part of the whole situation. We’re doomed. |
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Post by lauradrumm on Mar 8, 2019 9:39:49 GMT
This judge was sympathetic towards Manafort and has made comments about disagreeing with this investigation in the past. Hopefully the other judge will throw the book at him. What’s upsetting is it should be an unbiased sentence based on law! |
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Post by pyccku on Mar 8, 2019 12:16:48 GMT
The judge never felt Manafort should have been indicted in the first place. He felt Manafort was being used to get to Trump. Well, a grand jury disagreed and believed there was enough to indict him. And a jury that heard the evidence disagreed and believed there was enough to indict him. |
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