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Post by lovetodigi on Oct 6, 2014 2:03:27 GMT
Effexor can be a very helpful drug, but it can also cause some serious side effects. When I took it, my heart was affected. The cardioligist was talking surgery before we figured out that it was the Effexor that was causing the problem. When I asked him if the meds might be causing the rapid heartbeat, he said no. I did some research on my own and saw that it can, but it is rare. I stopped the meds and my heart has not had an issue since. Doctors don't always know all of the side effects right off. Here are some side effects. Link
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maurchclt
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Post by maurchclt on Oct 6, 2014 3:09:08 GMT
Hope your daughter is resting comfortably. Please let us know how she is doing...very scary.
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Post by flanz on Oct 6, 2014 5:09:05 GMT
I hope your daughter's doctors figure out what she needs and have her feeling well soon! hugs to both of you!
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Post by lindywholoveskids on Oct 6, 2014 5:25:14 GMT
Thanks for the update. I'll be waiting to hear how Tuesday goes. I know from personal experience that you are exhausted after a convulsion.
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Post by zella on Oct 6, 2014 7:16:53 GMT
lovetodigi: thank you for that info. I'll definitely bring that up with the neurologist on Tuesday.
UPDATE at midnight Sunday.
DD's name is Tia; I often wish I knew someone's name so that I could send those positive vibes to a named person. Or prayers (I'm not a believer, but I so appreciate those who are believers taking the time to pray, and it's all positive energy, right?).
She is such a beautiful person. It is so unfair; she goes through so much.
Tia has slept all day. She was up briefly three times, including once to eat. The tremor started, but it didn't get bad, and she was able to fall asleep again.
I talked to her about the possibility of this being a somatoform disorder, and she was open to that idea. Also the possibility of a variant migraine, because goodness knows migraines seem to be able to mimic all kinds of other disorders.
I'll update again tomorrow. Thank you all so much.
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Post by M in Carolina on Oct 6, 2014 8:41:29 GMT
I'm so sorry that Tia is going through all this. It's so much harder to be the caregiver than the patient. I know you have your own medical issues as well. I will be keeping you and Tia in my prayers. My dh has a type of epilepsy that causes absent seizures. He has these jerks in his sleep--I tease him that he's a full contact sleeper. He's on Depakote, and that has helped him tremendously. When he is sick or really stressed out, his epilepsy is much harder to control.
I was "diagnosed" with Fibromyalgia. My doctors have suspected that I really had MS for the past couple of years based on nerve tests and symptoms. In August my primary care doctor confirmed that I indeed have MS.
Fibromyalgia is a catch diagnosis for symptoms doctors can't explain. It's been hard to find a neurologist who would do the necessary tests to figure out what was really going on. I can't take neurontin or lyrica--my muscle spasms get much worse. I've been referred to a neurologist who is one of the best MS doctors in the country.
I know how frustrating it is to be so sick and not have any cut and dry answers or diagnoses. If I were you, I'd be asking Tia's doctors to refer her to the Mayo clinic. I went there after my complications from a bile duct leak that caused chronic pancreatitis. They knew exactly what was going on with me and how to fix it. It was amazing. They were wonderful. If you need to see any other types of doctors while you are there, they get you right in, and will even do procedures and surgery if you need it. Definitely worth going.
Dh and I have also been discussing getting a concierge doctor for me, and I want dh to go to one as well. They do cost out of pocket--we would put more money on our FSA card to pay for it. You should check out all they do.
I understand not taking Tia to the ER. When you have a chronic problem, the ER won't do much. Even if Tia was hospitalized, the doctors wouldn't do tests unless they were ordered by Tia's doctors--unless her life was in danger.
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Post by eastcoastpea on Oct 6, 2014 11:01:05 GMT
Healing vibes being sent to Tia and hugs to you Zella. I hope your daughter's appointment gets to the root of things.
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Post by purplebee on Oct 6, 2014 11:27:51 GMT
Prayers and positive thoughts for Tia, her doctors and for you.
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Post by evnimom on Oct 6, 2014 11:31:46 GMT
I'm sending good thoughts your way. Hope you all had a good night.
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Post by msliz on Oct 6, 2014 12:52:31 GMT
Hi Zella,
I've mentioned on other threads that I have a 16yo DD with weird stuff going on too. She has had constant migraine with aura since 2010, POTS not due to cardiac reasons, and some hormone related issues (endocrinologist appointment is in December). Our best guess is dysautonomia brought on by sinus issues back in her early adolescence, coupled with undiagnosed /untreated PCOS.
She has those spasms you describe, but nowhere near to the degree that your DD is experiencing. Hers are more like tics than seisures in that they display as a strong singular jerks, but they tend to cluster with one every few minutes for around an hour, but she's gone on longer. The clusters occur a few or several times a day, or sometimes not at all for a few days. Sometimes they're strong enough to knock her off her feet, and sometimes they're just mildly annoying.
Her neurologist isn't especially concerned about the tics. As far as he is concerned, the migraine, the tics, and the POTS are all just different ways that her illness is displaying. They're just symptoms, and in the big picture, they're details that don't really matter. From his POV, the root of all her problems is the same: the problem is occurring between the neurons, either they're misfiring or they're not receiving or a bit of both. He's had her on a brief dopamine trial and several serotonin drugs, but nothing has worked yet. I'm counting the days until the endo appt.
DD sees a naturopath on a weekly basis to help her cope with her pain. Maybe that would help your DD too? He works on her neck and shoulders and he gives her chiropractic adjustments. She always feels better, but it's short lived. She tenses up in her sleep in response to the pain, and she grinds her teeth (the orthodontist *loves* us.) She has stretching exercises too.
She knows she won't ever be "cured," and that the goal for us is learning how to best manage her illness. It's a lot for a kid to deal with, and she's seen psychologists and a psychiatrist, and she's now seeing a counselor. Your DD is older than mine, but it's still affecting her in a bad way. Does your DD have the opportunity to talk to a therapist? It might not help her body directly, but if it will help her spirit, that could help her body indirectly. You might want to go see someone too. It's so much stress on a mom, and you have your own health issues on top of that.
You're both in my prayers.
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gloryjoy
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Post by gloryjoy on Oct 6, 2014 13:15:53 GMT
This sounds scary, prayers for you daughter.
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zella
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Post by zella on Oct 13, 2014 19:28:41 GMT
I'm so sorry that Tia is going through all this. It's so much harder to be the caregiver than the patient. I know you have your own medical issues as well. I will be keeping you and Tia in my prayers. My dh has a type of epilepsy that causes absent seizures. He has these jerks in his sleep--I tease him that he's a full contact sleeper. He's on Depakote, and that has helped him tremendously. When he is sick or really stressed out, his epilepsy is much harder to control. I was "diagnosed" with Fibromyalgia. My doctors have suspected that I really had MS for the past couple of years based on nerve tests and symptoms. In August my primary care doctor confirmed that I indeed have MS. Fibromyalgia is a catch diagnosis for symptoms doctors can't explain. It's been hard to find a neurologist who would do the necessary tests to figure out what was really going on. I can't take neurontin or lyrica--my muscle spasms get much worse. I've been referred to a neurologist who is one of the best MS doctors in the country. I know how frustrating it is to be so sick and not have any cut and dry answers or diagnoses. If I were you, I'd be asking Tia's doctors to refer her to the Mayo clinic. I went there after my complications from a bile duct leak that caused chronic pancreatitis. They knew exactly what was going on with me and how to fix it. It was amazing. They were wonderful. If you need to see any other types of doctors while you are there, they get you right in, and will even do procedures and surgery if you need it. Definitely worth going. Dh and I have also been discussing getting a concierge doctor for me, and I want dh to go to one as well. They do cost out of pocket--we would put more money on our FSA card to pay for it. You should check out all they do. I understand not taking Tia to the ER. When you have a chronic problem, the ER won't do much. Even if Tia was hospitalized, the doctors wouldn't do tests unless they were ordered by Tia's doctors--unless her life was in danger. Thank you for this sweet message. Tia has fibro too. And you're right that I have my own issues too. I'm so sorry to hear that you have MS; I hope that you get good care, and that you experience lengthy remissions, if yours is that type. We have considered the Mayo clinic, and it's still a possibility. We also have a friend who wants to take Tia to Hong Kong; there is a doctor there who cured her mother of lifelong migraines and chronic pain.
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Post by zella on Oct 13, 2014 19:34:57 GMT
Hi Zella, I've mentioned on other threads that I have a 16yo DD with weird stuff going on too. She has had constant migraine with aura since 2010, POTS not due to cardiac reasons, and some hormone related issues (endocrinologist appointment is in December). Our best guess is dysautonomia brought on by sinus issues back in her early adolescence, coupled with undiagnosed /untreated PCOS. She has those spasms you describe, but nowhere near to the degree that your DD is experiencing. Hers are more like tics than seisures in that they display as a strong singular jerks, but they tend to cluster with one every few minutes for around an hour, but she's gone on longer. The clusters occur a few or several times a day, or sometimes not at all for a few days. Sometimes they're strong enough to knock her off her feet, and sometimes they're just mildly annoying. Her neurologist isn't especially concerned about the tics. As far as he is concerned, the migraine, the tics, and the POTS are all just different ways that her illness is displaying. They're just symptoms, and in the big picture, they're details that don't really matter. From his POV, the root of all her problems is the same: the problem is occurring between the neurons, either they're misfiring or they're not receiving or a bit of both. He's had her on a brief dopamine trial and several serotonin drugs, but nothing has worked yet. I'm counting the days until the endo appt. DD sees a naturopath on a weekly basis to help her cope with her pain. Maybe that would help your DD too? He works on her neck and shoulders and he gives her chiropractic adjustments. She always feels better, but it's short lived. She tenses up in her sleep in response to the pain, and she grinds her teeth (the orthodontist *loves* us.) She has stretching exercises too. She knows she won't ever be "cured," and that the goal for us is learning how to best manage her illness. It's a lot for a kid to deal with, and she's seen psychologists and a psychiatrist, and she's now seeing a counselor. Your DD is older than mine, but it's still affecting her in a bad way. Does your DD have the opportunity to talk to a therapist? It might not help her body directly, but if it will help her spirit, that could help her body indirectly. You might want to go see someone too. It's so much stress on a mom, and you have your own health issues on top of that. You're both in my prayers. Thank you so much. She's going to start seeing a nautropath. Her neuro is confident that she doesn't have any kind of dysautonomia, and POTS doesn't fit. Thank goodness (that is a terrible disorder). Interestingly, she probably does have PCOS based on family and personal history, though she doesn't have the side effects such as weight gain, glucose resistance or excess hair growth, thank goodness. She's in counseling, but needs a better counselor and more frequent sessions; something that's going to happen soon. I think Tia realizes that she won't ever be cured. That's a hard, hard thing to live with. I try to encourage her with my own story. At her age and throughout my twenties, I was as sick as she is (and frankly, sometimes sicker). I still managed to get married and have babies before I was 30, and though my life has been rather a mess, and certainly not what I'd hoped, I can mostly function. And marriage and babies is what she longs for more than anything. Again, thank you for your concern and caring.
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Post by gar on Oct 13, 2014 19:42:12 GMT
Although her diagnosis must be a relief your sadness for her is palpable. I wish you both peace of mind.
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zella
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Post by zella on Oct 16, 2014 10:45:15 GMT
Although her diagnosis must be a relief your sadness for her is palpable. I wish you both peace of mind. Thank you. Tia is 22, has no local friends, hasn't had a boyfriend in 2 years, struggles to hold onto her one job, which is just a few hours on a Sunday, and has lost more than one job she loved due to illness (she provides childcare). This is no life for a young person. And my heart breaks for her.
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Post by gar on Oct 16, 2014 12:21:15 GMT
Although her diagnosis must be a relief your sadness for her is palpable. I wish you both peace of mind. Thank you. Tia is 22, has no local friends, hasn't had a boyfriend in 2 years, struggles to hold onto her one job, which is just a few hours on a Sunday, and has lost more than one job she loved due to illness (she provides childcare). This is no life for a young person. And my heart breaks for her. Oh, that is such a shame and I know, as a mum, how much we hurt when they hurt. She's lucky to have you and I wish you both the very best, truly.
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