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Post by teach4u on Apr 21, 2019 16:51:52 GMT
Last night a family attended Easter vigil. Long service. I get it. No grandparent type members along ( if it were a case of going to keep family harmony). During mass,2 kids (12-14) read novels ( the covers were clearly visible) and dad watched baseball on phobe( had it held in sight.) Left service early. So why go if you’re watching tv and reading a fictional book?
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Post by christine58 on Apr 21, 2019 16:54:47 GMT
Last night a family attended Easter vigil. Long service. I get it. No grandparent type members along ( if it were a case of going to keep family harmony). During mass,2 kids (12-14) read novels ( the covers were clearly visible) and dad watched baseball on phobe( had it held in sight.) Left service early. So why go if you’re watching tv and reading a fictional book? Good point. Easter Vigil is sooooo long that I only attend every few years. It is an awesome mass.
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Post by Basket1lady on Apr 21, 2019 16:55:14 GMT
To make mom happy? You’ve got me there.
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Post by teach4u on Apr 21, 2019 16:56:07 GMT
It is long. But it’s not the only Easter service. Who watches tv during a solemn service?
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Post by teach4u on Apr 21, 2019 16:56:52 GMT
It was 2 30-40 year olds and 2 teens. No grandparents.
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Post by Basket1lady on Apr 21, 2019 16:57:22 GMT
Last night a family attended Easter vigil. Long service. I get it. No grandparent type members along ( if it were a case of going to keep family harmony). During mass,2 kids (12-14) read novels ( the covers were clearly visible) and dad watched baseball on phobe( had it held in sight.) Left service early. So why go if you’re watching tv and reading a fictional book? Good point. Easter Vigil is sooooo long that I only attend every few years. It is an awesome mass. It’s my favorite Mass. So much of the pomp and pagetry of the Church! But that thrill of entering the dark church and the light from the candles spreading from person to person is so moving. And I love hearing the litany of the saints!
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Post by LiLi on Apr 21, 2019 16:59:14 GMT
It is long. But it’s not the only Easter service. Who watches tv during a solemn service? Someone who doesn't want to be there, but is being forced by his wife? Probably why they left early. Mom got embarrassed. Imaginary story, of course. Who knows how true it is. Lol
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Post by mustlovecats on Apr 21, 2019 17:04:52 GMT
I let my kids read in church but I wouldn’t let them watch baseball in church.
My guess is they were there to make mom happy. I try not to judge what other people are doing because maybe they are doing the best they can that day.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 17:32:21 GMT
To be seen.
We used to show up at a church when we first moved here because it was the place to be seen. A couple of higher ups in my husband’s work saw us there with son and made a point of greeting us. That goes a very long way when you are getting chosen for a project,when you are new to a company.
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Post by GiantsFan on Apr 21, 2019 17:41:14 GMT
They're there to make an appearance and so they can say they went to church on Easter.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 21, 2019 17:51:03 GMT
I let my kids read in church but I wouldn’t let them watch baseball in church. My guess is they were there to make mom happy. I try not to judge what other people are doing because maybe they are doing the best they can that day. THIS! Honestly people haven't the faintest clue what's going on in other families. I can't begin to imagine why a teen quietly reading is bothering someone. I'm assuming the baseball watching dad was using earphone or otherwise not disturbing others, if he wasn't that's a different issue. You do you - I assume you're there for the service and perhaps should spend more time on the message and less on judging the other attendees.
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Post by Merge on Apr 21, 2019 18:05:14 GMT
Were there baptisms or confirmations going on at the service? They used to do those at the Easter vigil when I was attending church. Maybe they were there to support a family member during their sacrament but not necessarily interested in the rest of the service.
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Post by teach4u on Apr 21, 2019 18:50:18 GMT
No baptisms or confirmations this year
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Post by teach4u on Apr 21, 2019 18:52:39 GMT
Asking because it seemed odd. Is this done in a Synagogue or mosque? I think reading (fiction/ secular book)in any religious service rude.
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Post by pierkiss on Apr 21, 2019 18:55:59 GMT
Maybe they got to the church 2 hours before mass even started to make sure they got seats because they were visiting from out of town so that they could spend one final Easter with their dying grandfather/father (who didn’t attend because he is of a different faith)? And this was the only service they could attend because the rest of the weekend was booked with family things? Perhaps the kids were allowed to bring books so that they weren’t bored out of their skulls waiting for mass to start, and maybe it was so much of a fight to get them there and not be pains in the ass that mom just let them read through the mass if that’s what kept them quiet. (And yes, this is something that happened to my family one Christmas).
No excuses for the dad watching sports on his phone. That’s just rude.
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Post by bc2ca on Apr 21, 2019 19:00:51 GMT
I was expecting something much more "odd" than quietly reading a book or keeping an eye on the game.
Using a phone makes the game watching more obvious, but I know someone that used to listen with a pocket radio and earbud back in the day.
It sounds like a family compromise to me. Mom wanted them to attend the service and figured having them there, even if they were quietly doing something else, was better than not having them attend.
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Post by quinlove on Apr 21, 2019 19:10:39 GMT
Asking because it seemed odd. Is this done in a Synagogue or mosque? I think reading (fiction/ secular book)in any religious service rude. I’ll tell you what’s odd and rude - a Christian ( meaning: Christ like ) judging another human being who is attending the same church service on Easter. Who are you to call out these people attending your church ?? What is it to you what they are reading ? Your judging is what’s rude !
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 21, 2019 19:16:40 GMT
To each their own.
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Post by janskylar on Apr 21, 2019 19:18:55 GMT
Maybe everybody but mom is deaf so listening to the service isn't an option. Maybe church is super boring and mom won't let them stay home. If nobody is going to kick them out for doing it, it seems like the appropriate response is to mind your own business.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 19:31:20 GMT
Last night a family attended Easter vigil. Long service. I get it. No grandparent type members along ( if it were a case of going to keep family harmony). During mass,2 kids (12-14) read novels ( the covers were clearly visible) and dad watched baseball on phobe( had it held in sight.) Left service early. So why go if you’re watching tv and reading a fictional book? Even if there were no grandparent types, maybe MOM wanted them to go. Or a custody agreement required dad take them. Or they are relatives of the priest or someone else in the church and it was to keep family harmony. Maybe a friend or a co-worker put pressure on them to go. Maybe dad felt like the kids should go for their own good without realizing he wasn't setting a good example. I don't worry too much about what other people do unless it impacts me.
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Post by ashley on Apr 21, 2019 19:34:15 GMT
Did these people disrupt you, other than giving you fodder for more righteous judgment?
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Post by gar on Apr 21, 2019 20:06:02 GMT
Keeping up appearances- it apparently important to some people.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 21, 2019 20:24:16 GMT
Romans 14 - reread it.
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Post by silverlining on Apr 21, 2019 20:35:41 GMT
I wouldn't ask why go at all, because I understand that it doesn't have to be done the way I would want it done. I might wonder what kind of super-powers that mom has, or might imagine the negotiations that took place before they all ended up there together!
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Post by 950nancy on Apr 21, 2019 20:45:47 GMT
I wonder if maybe the family was there for two services and had already been to one and was waiting for someone else who went to the second service. I have known people to do that.
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Post by Pahina722 on Apr 21, 2019 20:54:59 GMT
Asking because it seemed odd. Is this done in a Synagogue or mosque? I think reading (fiction/ secular book)in any religious service rude. I can tell you absolutely that the only way my parents could get me to attend church with them (as a 58 year old) would be to let me read a book while I was there. How about how rude it is that perhaps one person of the four in that family really wanted to be there, yet somehow bullied the rest of them to attend? When I was a school age child, my grandparents always let me check out secular books from the church library before they took me to service with them—and that was a normal 1 hour service. Why does this bother you? How does it impact your participation in the service?
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Post by jeremysgirl on Apr 21, 2019 21:44:56 GMT
Asking because it seemed odd. Is this done in a Synagogue or mosque? I think reading (fiction/ secular book)in any religious service rude. I’ll tell you what’s odd and rude - a Christian ( meaning: Christ like ) judging another human being who is attending the same church service on Easter. Who are you to call out these people attending your church ?? What is it to you what they are reading ? Your judging is what’s rude ! And the Lord said amen. I have to plan my holiday very tricky. Bipolar disorder has ruined many a family holiday. I have to prepare myself for neither child to participate, one child to participate, or that the stars align and both my children participate. All the while I have to try to keep things running softly and smoothly so as not to rock anyone's boat and still try to make a magical holiday. Getting my teens to mass, let alone Easter vigil would be a miracle. Having them read or look at phones would be the least of my worry. And I would sit there absolutely delighted they came at all. Glad to know my triumph would be seen as failure. Walk a mile in someone else's shoes, please.
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Post by lindas on Apr 21, 2019 21:48:43 GMT
You people are unbelievable. The OP wasn't judging but a bunch of you sure as hell jumped to judge her. She merely asked why go if you aren't interested. I don't care what people do in church as long as it's not desturbing the people around them but that thought would have popped into my head too, why bother to come.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Apr 21, 2019 21:52:17 GMT
You people are unbelievable. The OP wasn't judging but a bunch of you sure as hell jumped to judge her. She merely asked why go if you aren't interested. I don't care what people do in church as long as it's not desturbing the people around them but that thought would have popped into my head too, why bother to come. The OP has history. This isn't a naive post.
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Post by txdancermom on Apr 21, 2019 22:05:51 GMT
our dd always had a book she read during church, and surprisingly she picked up a lot from the sermons, etc even if she was reading. she did this all through high school.
we never had an issue with watching something on the phone, phones couldn't do that when the kids were in high school!
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