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Post by mymindseyedpea on May 30, 2019 20:41:34 GMT
I got inspired to start thinking of ways to do things in a way that doesn’t use virtual technology, or at least decreases it drastically. Boyfriend has been constantly telling me that I’m on fb too much and that it’s not good for me. I’ve been mostly ignoring him, until the other day a read a page in a new book I got that talks about how if technology keeps expanding the way it seems like it’s doing there could very well be a “new concept called ‘Singularity’ - Moore’s Law.
Now, whether you agree to Moore’s Law or not, I notice it on the daily, how instead of 2 of my coworkers who are sitting across from one another are having a face to face conversation, they are both in silence on their phones. Or instead of walking to another room to ask someone a question they will text them instead. And the list goes on and on. I’m not going to say that I haven’t participated in the above examples. I’ll admit I have. It’s sad but sometimes I get more of a response when I text someone in the other room than walking over to talk to them.
Anyway, this “technology trying to take over the world” may not be a new concept to many, but what I read really opened my eyes to the bigger picture of how advancing technology more and more is decreasing the want for natural connection more and more. And as one who feels a big purpose in having a focus on what’s good for the collective, this is not at all.
My intent isn’t to eliminate all technological use or anything, but to find more ways to integrate it where you’re not only using some virtual connection. One idea I had was to start writing out things in a notebook that I post on fb, and then take a picture of the page to post it that way, whenever I have access to do so. That way I spend most of my time writing in my notebook where there is more of a natural connection instead of going completely virtual (like I’m doing right now) and typing it all up. (I’m using my phone though and I don’t think you can post pictures on here with mobile)
So now that I have gotten through with the backstory, what ideas do you have (whether former or new) to either substitute virtual technology with or integrate it?
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Post by mymindseyedpea on May 30, 2019 20:53:39 GMT
I know one way is something I already discussed and that’s having a non-virtual discussion with someone if you have access to meet up with them.
In my book it talks about connecting to art. Creative living. Whatever that means. I know that I have always loved scrapbooking and have never done a virtual page. And other than school I have never read a book without physically holding it in my hand. I’m not going against virtual scrapbooking or nooks or anything. I’m just sharing the idea to still do both ways is all. I know there are many advantages to these technologies and I don’t even have a nook.
Another idea that just came to me (though I think I read something about it before and that many probably already do this) is to have a family night doing something together with the phones put away and the tv turned off.
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Post by papersilly on May 30, 2019 22:54:23 GMT
the thing with technology is that if you don't stay on top of it, you can fall behind it because of how quickly technology evolves. i think there is a balance but sadly, i'm on the too-much-tech-time end of it.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on May 31, 2019 2:18:58 GMT
In this day and age, it's a technology based world.
With that said, I think there are several ways to disengage from technology.
No phones at the table during meals.
No phones while hanging out, watching a show, etc..
When out and about socially with others, keep phone put away.
Limit social media to one or two sources(I use facebook primarily). It's is not necessary to partake in it all.
Keep in mind, in the "old days" people left home for hours and hours(at work, at School, out with friends or family) and were out of contact, unless they called to check in from a payphone.
Just because someone texts or calls/leaves a voicemail, does not mean you have to respond immediately (unless it's a child that is supposed to be "checking in" with a Parent, in that case, a reasonably immediate response is expected).
As an adult, it okay to set boundaries, to respond to text, calls, social media, etc...at your convenience. Someone else's lack of patience, someone else's need for instant gratification, is not my problem. I will respond when it's convenient for me.
You mentioned that your boyfriend commented on your constant facebooking. When you are spending time with him, put the phone away.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2019 3:21:02 GMT
I got inspired to start thinking of ways to do things in a way that doesn’t use virtual technology, or at least decreases it drastically. Boyfriend has been constantly telling me that I’m on fb too much and that it’s not good for me. I’ve been mostly ignoring him, until the other day a read a page in a new book I got that talks about how if technology keeps expanding the way it seems like it’s doing there could very well be a “new concept called ‘Singularity’ - Moore’s Law. Now, whether you agree to Moore’s Law or not, I notice it on the daily, how instead of 2 of my coworkers who are sitting across from one another are having a face to face conversation, they are both in silence on their phones. Or instead of walking to another room to ask someone a question they will text them instead. And the list goes on and on. I’m not going to say that I haven’t participated in the above examples. I’ll admit I have. It’s sad but sometimes I get more of a response when I text someone in the other room than walking over to talk to them. Anyway, this “technology trying to take over the world” may not be a new concept to many, but what I read really opened my eyes to the bigger picture of how advancing technology more and more is decreasing the want for natural connection more and more. And as one who feels a big purpose in having a focus on what’s good for the collective, this is not at all. My intent isn’t to eliminate all technological use or anything, but to find more ways to integrate it where you’re not only using some virtual connection. One idea I had was to start writing out things in a notebook that I post on fb, and then take a picture of the page to post it that way, whenever I have access to do so. That way I spend most of my time writing in my notebook where there is more of a natural connection instead of going completely virtual (like I’m doing right now) and typing it all up. (I’m using my phone though and I don’t think you can post pictures on here with mobile) So now that I have gotten through with the backstory, what ideas do you have (whether former or new) to either substitute virtual technology with or integrate it? Will writing in a note book, then posting a picture of the writing REALLY be more engaging than just typing it up? What I hear your bf say is "you are ignoring me, the person in the house with you" Writing in a note book does stop you from ignoring him. I can read facebook, or a physical book with paper pages.. both get in the way of connecting with a person sitting on the sofa with me. In the end, my point of view is we need to shut off everything, virtual or physical, that interferes with a heart to heart personal connection. For many people, the technology is the media for connectedness. I don't see it as inherently bad. Your bf is saying he feels neglected by you. Put away the note keeping in all forms.. paper and electronic. Talk to him, BE in the present moment with him. |
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Post by mymindseyedpea on May 31, 2019 5:41:52 GMT
the thing with technology is that if you don't stay on top of it, you can fall behind it because of how quickly technology evolves. i think there is a balance but sadly, i'm on the too-much-tech-time end of it. My hope and goal is that it stays a balance and that there is no intent from tech companies to unbalance it. |
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Post by mymindseyedpea on May 31, 2019 5:45:07 GMT
In this day and age, it's a technology based world. With that said, I think there are several ways to disengage from technology. No phones at the table during meals. No phones while hanging out, watching a show, etc.. When out and about socially with others, keep phone put away. Limit social media to one or two sources(I use facebook primarily). It's is not necessary to partake in it all. Keep in mind, in the "old days" people left home for hours and hours(at work, at School, out with friends or family) and were out of contact, unless they called to check in from a payphone. Just because someone texts or calls/leaves a voicemail, does not mean you have to respond immediately (unless it's a child that is supposed to be "checking in" with a Parent, in that case, a reasonably immediate response is expected). As an adult, it okay to set boundaries, to respond to text, calls, social media, etc...at your convenience. Someone else's lack of patience, someone else's need for instant gratification, is not my problem. I will respond when it's convenient for me. You mentioned that your boyfriend commented on your constant facebooking. When you are spending time with him, put the phone away. Thank you those are great ideas! I don’t participate in a lot of social media, so I have one checked off ☺️ And I keep my phone by me when watching shows so I can pause the show and take a picture if I see something significant to keep in my Synchronicity photos ☺️ I’ve gotten better at spending physical/emotional time with boyfriend. |
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Post by mymindseyedpea on May 31, 2019 5:57:27 GMT
I got inspired to start thinking of ways to do things in a way that doesn’t use virtual technology, or at least decreases it drastically. Boyfriend has been constantly telling me that I’m on fb too much and that it’s not good for me. I’ve been mostly ignoring him, until the other day a read a page in a new book I got that talks about how if technology keeps expanding the way it seems like it’s doing there could very well be a “new concept called ‘Singularity’ - Moore’s Law. Now, whether you agree to Moore’s Law or not, I notice it on the daily, how instead of 2 of my coworkers who are sitting across from one another are having a face to face conversation, they are both in silence on their phones. Or instead of walking to another room to ask someone a question they will text them instead. And the list goes on and on. I’m not going to say that I haven’t participated in the above examples. I’ll admit I have. It’s sad but sometimes I get more of a response when I text someone in the other room than walking over to talk to them. Anyway, this “technology trying to take over the world” may not be a new concept to many, but what I read really opened my eyes to the bigger picture of how advancing technology more and more is decreasing the want for natural connection more and more. And as one who feels a big purpose in having a focus on what’s good for the collective, this is not at all. My intent isn’t to eliminate all technological use or anything, but to find more ways to integrate it where you’re not only using some virtual connection. One idea I had was to start writing out things in a notebook that I post on fb, and then take a picture of the page to post it that way, whenever I have access to do so. That way I spend most of my time writing in my notebook where there is more of a natural connection instead of going completely virtual (like I’m doing right now) and typing it all up. (I’m using my phone though and I don’t think you can post pictures on here with mobile) So now that I have gotten through with the backstory, what ideas do you have (whether former or new) to either substitute virtual technology with or integrate it? Will writing in a note book, then posting a picture of the writing REALLY be more engaging than just typing it up? What I hear your bf say is "you are ignoring me, the person in the house with you" Writing in a note book does stop you from ignoring him. I can read facebook, or a physical book with paper pages.. both get in the way of connecting with a person sitting on the sofa with me. In the end, my point of view is we need to shut off everything, virtual or physical, that interferes with a heart to heart personal connection. For many people, the technology is the media for connectedness. I don't see it as inherently bad. Your bf is saying he feels neglected by you. Put away the note keeping in all forms.. paper and electronic. Talk to him, BE in the present moment with him. I do think that writing vs typing, exercises more of your brain. It always takes away the autocorrect. There was even a documentary about it on Netflix. It’s more natural to write than to type. Yes I can get lost in my notebook writing and ignore boyfriend just the same. But when I mentioned him saying I’m on my phone too much, that was a while ago. And whether or not it came from it taking time away from him and he time, it made me realize that I’m getting too involved in this hyper tech world, and the bigger picture is I should limit technological use because I feel that if everyone did that there are many benefits to checking out of that world from time to time. I’m just trying to do it more. That doesn’t mean having a heart to heart with boyfriend instead. Though those opportunities have came up pretty recently and I have participated, that’s not where my focus is on. Having a heart to heart with nature is. |
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Post by ashley on May 31, 2019 12:06:36 GMT
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with not talking to coworkers constantly. A phone break can be a very welcome thing. My phone and technology actually enrich my life and give me deeper connections and also more freedom than if I didn’t have a phone
I also disagree that using a phone and texting means you AREN’T having deep, meaningful connections. It is entirely possible to do both.
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Post by ashley on May 31, 2019 12:38:27 GMT
Also, if Facebook isn’t “good for you”, it might be worth examining why. It’s likely not because it’s something you do on your phone, but other reasons...
Are you disagreeing/arguing with people? Being exposed to opinions or info that upsets you? Is it jealously or feelings of inadequacy?
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Post by papersilly on May 31, 2019 17:43:44 GMT
the thing with technology is that if you don't stay on top of it, you can fall behind it because of how quickly technology evolves. i think there is a balance but sadly, i'm on the too-much-tech-time end of it. My hope and goal is that it stays a balance and that there is no intent from tech companies to unbalance it. Of course tech companies want to tip the balance in their favor. They don't want you playing in the sun when you could be using their devices, reading their content, and being exposed to their advertisers. Our dependence on tech is $$$ for companies. Playing in the sun or interacting with each other doesn't bring in revenue for them. That's why they like us in with ever changing devices like tv's, phones, and computers. I probably don't need a phone every two years but the new features get me every time. Bastards. |
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Post by kelly8875 on May 31, 2019 18:18:08 GMT
I got inspired to start thinking of ways to do things in a way that doesn’t use virtual technology, or at least decreases it drastically. Boyfriend has been constantly telling me that I’m on fb too much and that it’s not good for me. I’ve been mostly ignoring him, until the other day a read a page in a new book I got that talks about how if technology keeps expanding the way it seems like it’s doing there could very well be a “new concept called ‘Singularity’ - Moore’s Law. Now, whether you agree to Moore’s Law or not, I notice it on the daily, how instead of 2 of my coworkers who are sitting across from one another are having a face to face conversation, they are both in silence on their phones. Or instead of walking to another room to ask someone a question they will text them instead. And the list goes on and on. I’m not going to say that I haven’t participated in the above examples. I’ll admit I have. It’s sad but sometimes I get more of a response when I text someone in the other room than walking over to talk to them. Anyway, this “technology trying to take over the world” may not be a new concept to many, but what I read really opened my eyes to the bigger picture of how advancing technology more and more is decreasing the want for natural connection more and more. And as one who feels a big purpose in having a focus on what’s good for the collective, this is not at all. My intent isn’t to eliminate all technological use or anything, but to find more ways to integrate it where you’re not only using some virtual connection. One idea I had was to start writing out things in a notebook that I post on fb, and then take a picture of the page to post it that way, whenever I have access to do so. That way I spend most of my time writing in my notebook where there is more of a natural connection instead of going completely virtual (like I’m doing right now) and typing it all up. (I’m using my phone though and I don’t think you can post pictures on here with mobile) So now that I have gotten through with the backstory, what ideas do you have (whether former or new) to either substitute virtual technology with or integrate it? Will writing in a note book, then posting a picture of the writing REALLY be more engaging than just typing it up? What I hear your bf say is "you are ignoring me, the person in the house with you" Writing in a note book does stop you from ignoring him. I can read facebook, or a physical book with paper pages.. both get in the way of connecting with a person sitting on the sofa with me. In the end, my point of view is we need to shut off everything, virtual or physical, that interferes with a heart to heart personal connection. For many people, the technology is the media for connectedness. I don't see it as inherently bad. Your bf is saying he feels neglected by you. Put away the note keeping in all forms.. paper and electronic. Talk to him, BE in the present moment with him. Yeah, no matter what form of communication you’re using, it’s still the same problem. The key is to figure out how to use these forms of communication to connect to each other. DBF and I love to share cute videos of things we see on Facebook together in the mornings while having coffee. During lunch at work, my coworkers and I, almost everyday we have a topic we look up and learn/talk about. Today, we talked about Mt Everest, Tina Turner and Toy Story 4. But in depth, learning about costs, Sherpas, where Tina lives and why, how many kids she has, and fun details about the newest Toys coming out soon. This week we also talked about General Hospital, and all its seasons, characters, film studios, etc. when someone says something random or asks if we heard the news, one of says “that’ll be our lunch topic”. It’s fun, and we learn so much random crap because of it lol. |
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Post by chaosisapony on May 31, 2019 20:44:30 GMT
Go cold turkey for however long you need to until you don't feel like you "need" your phone, the internet, whatever. You'll find other things to do occupy your time. Once you feel comfortable you can start adding back in social media or time on your phone.
You never know, you might wind up being happier once it's gone.
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jun 5, 2019 23:02:50 GMT
My hope and goal is that it stays a balance and that there is no intent from tech companies to unbalance it. Of course tech companies want to tip the balance in their favor. They don't want you playing in the sun when you could be using their devices, reading their content, and being exposed to their advertisers. Our dependence on tech is $$$ for companies. Playing in the sun or interacting with each other doesn't bring in revenue for them. That's why they like us in with ever changing devices like tv's, phones, and computers. I probably don't need a phone every two years but the new features get me every time. Bastards. I have an iPhone 10 since January and I miss my 5. That’s such an unhealthy mindset for those companies to be in IMHO. It doesn’t support a looking within balance at all. |
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jun 5, 2019 23:07:02 GMT
Go cold turkey for however long you need to until you don't feel like you "need" your phone, the internet, whatever. You'll find other things to do occupy your time. Once you feel comfortable you can start adding back in social media or time on your phone. You never know, you might wind up being happier once it's gone. I probably would. Thank you, and you posted this at 1:44 my time which is significant to me ☺️ |
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Post by birukitty on Jun 6, 2019 4:27:27 GMT
I confess to being tech challenged. I'm also a traditionalist. I've made a concentrated effort to not get caught up in the smart phone "addiction" I see around me. When you are in a public place look around you. Most people are no longer talking to each other. They have their heads bent down at an uncomfortable angle looking down at their phones. Like the OP said, people at restaurants sitting at tables aren't looking at each other conversing-instead they are each looking down at their phones. Mothers in stores are ignoring their pleading children to instead look down at their phones and give all of their attention to it. I see it as a sad development in our society. Yes cell phones are wonderful inventions, no doubt about it. But I think there needs to be a balance. I purposely leave my cell phone turned off in my purse. I only use it to make calls out. I'm able to do that because I'm not working and I don't have a business that needs to reach me-I realize not everyone can do that. People could, if they chose to, cut back on their cell phone use and just use them for calls-if they chose to limit cell phone use in order to achieve a better balance. When I am out and about by myself I daydream. I look at the scenery around me and I have time to think, because I'm not looking down into a phone. My brain isn't constantly turned on. I've heard that some people after so much extended cell phone time lose the power to concentrate for periods of time so much that sometimes it effects their reading-they can't concentrate enough to read a book. I don't want that to ever happen to me! I adore reading and read every single day. BTW, I have an iphone 5. I have a journal I keep in my purse and I write what I need to remember in it. It's 5x7 and is refillable. I've used it for years and it works perfectly. It's called a Forum by Exacompta. You can buy them from jetpens.com The cover is $24.50 but you only have to buy that once and it comes in 5 colors. The inside (paper journal-the refills) is $11.75. They come in lined, undated (the one I always use) graph, and blank. I have read that the act of writing something down with pen on paper cements it in your brain better than typing it on a computer. When I finish a refill I date the cover and put it in my bookshelf. I have 19 refills from previous years-wow-that's how long I've been using this journal. Each refill contains 192 sheets and one lasts me about a year. When I find something that works I stick with it.  I do use facebook but am only on it for an hour or two (along with here) a day. I've joined groups that are helpful to me-reading groups, migraine groups, and so on. |
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Post by nlwilkins on Jun 6, 2019 4:45:55 GMT
For me technology has made it possible to connect with like minded people. I've joined several groups to share art and creativity with. So because of the tech world I have spent more time in my craft room creating. Integrating technology in a way that is helping you to reach out in a positive manner to peoplel you would not normally connect with is one way of keeping technology on a leash. It was always my contention that my tools work for me, not me work for them. So, my phone is a tool for me to use and not a taskmaster to demand my attention just because it makes some noise.
A few tips:
One thing to do to help, is to make your ringtone something pleasant instead of demanding. That way it is easier to ignore LOL
Only use technology to connect if it leads to better communication and not easier communication. Better is the way to go, don't go the easy route.
Knowing that it is always available helps to limit usage - you don't worry about getting "on" right now cause you won't be able to later. The urgency is no longer there so you can be more relaxed about it and possibly get on less.
Find ways to keep busy and away from the screen - television, phone, computer. When watching television, try to use that time also to connect with those around you. Hubby and I have programs we watch together and then we have things to discuss together. I also try to have handwork to do while watching television.
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Post by Tammiem2pnc1 on Jun 6, 2019 12:22:31 GMT
Last year we switched cell phone companies. Now instead of unlimited data, we pay by the gig. We did this to cut back on costs each month. Now anytime I am out of the house my data is off unless I need to access the internet for a phone number or something like that. So now I do not do any social media or playing on my phone when I'm not connected to wifi. It was hard at first, but now I'm glad we are completely disconnected as it has helped us communicate more as a family. I also do not get emails on my phone. It's another way for me to not be connected ALL of the time. I take the time twice a day to check incoming emails on my computer. Dinner time, all phones and technology are down. We take time each day to spend some time together as a family and talk. There is still plenty of tech time in our day, but we also have plenty of down time as well.
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